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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    It was a separate CD. I have but I don’t have all my gear unpacked and running yet or I’d gladly burn you a copy.
    If your still looking in say a month, send me a PM and I’ll send you one.....or when I get set up I’ll try to remember and see if your still in need.

  • Oroborous
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    No, no mi amigo, I was agreeing with you....not too fast or slow, just find the groove........just enough anticipation to keep em wanting more, but no so long that they lose interest lol
    Your doing fine! As always enjoy good tour stories from any era!
    And as far as marathon drinking, I mean literally days, like once we went on for almost four days without sleeping, and only minimal enhancements. Just enough going on to keep the fun level high enough and just enough beer to keep the buzz going but without getting wasted etc.....as I say “don’t try this at home kids!” We were young and invincible then, but mostly we were professionals, and had one of the greatest tutors of all times, Klondike Keek and his Mediterranean mad men, aka The Booze Brothers! Ironically he died at 42 right after he quit drinking....
    Staying up for several days on its own can be very interesting, but I don’t recommend any of this!

    Seasonal Beer; definetly different brews are perfect for specific seasons. If you really get in that flow with nature it’s pretty cool as your body will start to inform you “hey, it’s barelywine time” etc...certain heavy stuff around the holidays, other hardy brews for the long haul of winter....Barelywine around February when there is at least a glimmer of the longer sunny days and a promise of spring, but still cold enough for the heaviness. Then a little later it’s time for Bock, then some nice strong ipas, like a new one for us Freemont Mountain Daisy, yum, then the nice light refreshing stuff for the dog days of summer. Fall we start to swing back to the fuller stuff, Porters, Stouts, and your Oktoberfest etc, and as the weather turns and starts getting colder our bodies like the heavy stuff to fatten us up for winter, which means time for Anchor Xmas beer, my all time favorite! We drink that pretty much all year except when it’s real hot, which is when I like the Anchor Liberties but can’t get here anymore, bastards!
    Speaking of Hot and beer, it is best in an ice chest! The fridge just doesn’t seem to get it cold enough, so there nothing like a cold frosty out of the ice chest.
    Conekid will like this....the only kind of swill beer we’ll still drink is PBR, the official beer of the aforementioned Boozebrothers back in the day!......but it’s only good for like a week or 2 during the peak of summer, and it MUST be outta the ice chest! Careful, not too many though as it’ll eventually rot your gut, No Bueno!

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    Seems to be many formats running around. Looks like you can get the 4cd set. Looks like you can get a one dvd copy of the show (in 5.1 sound :-)) I see ebay has a sealed copy, seems to be a two dvd set.

    Who bought this when offered? Was the "bonus" disc a cd or were the bonus tracks on the dvd.

    Out here and searching.

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    the old saying.... " when a man is ashamed of what he is doing, he claims it's his duty"

  • carlo13
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    Hey now on that line stuff. They were doing that crap towards the end (94'-95). What do you think they do with that stuff? Of coarse they jumped inside the bag as soon as it was out of sight. They probably used the same excuse as the nazis. Just following orders.

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    The Vinyl Fillmore 69 saga and...

    I too ordered a copy from Amazon, time went by and seemed to be no movement. Got worried I was gonna get stiffed so I searched out other sources. Barnes and Noble had it for a few bucks less, so I ordered and was gonna wait to see who shipped first and cancel the other. This morning amazon acted like "oh almost here, almost, we can see it", further down in mail there's Barnes & Noble saying we shipped and should have Wednesday. Still haven't canceled Amazon. I gonna gleam thru these emails closely and check tracking numbers. Hope I don't end up with two.

    On another note. Someone here talked about Reckoning and the "expanded" addition and the tracks that were on there. So I went, hmmmmm. Checked my copy and found I didn't have the "remastered and expanded" copy. I was like shit and went in search of. Found a copy and order. Should be here today. A day later (+/-), someone mention the extra tracks on the closing of winterland. Something like NYE Winterland. So I went in search of. I don't think I have the bonus disc tracks. I swore I had the disc. So into the closet and I start pulling out the my many boxes of cd's (luckily the dead get their own boxes). First box I open and what do find,,,,,, an unopen copy of Reckoning Remaster & Expanded!!! DAMN! I did find the closing of winterland. My buddy must have bought it. I have the disc and the dvd's,,, I don't seem to have the bonus tracks. Now I need to go in search of them. Anyone out there got a copy of the bonus stuff?

    What I need to do is start of list of ALL official releases and check off what I have so I don't have to search the closet anymore. Also what I found is I need another stack of banker boxes! I think I have about 2 boxes worth of cd's sitting on the sink waiting to be filed(?), stored(?), stuck in a fuckin box?

    The Gorge always sounded and looked so beautiful but that line Nazi stuff is for the birds. I'd bet a dollar a doughnut that black bag was empty and divided up among the security assholes!

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    Oroborous - point taken on not going too slow...reminds me of this song I know - Long distance runner, what you standing there for? and then something about Dead to the Core...how does that song go? Anyways, I will try to step on the gas....

    Did someone say 69? Believe it or not, I am currently rolling not west, but south down 69 highway in KS, heading to the lake. No, KF, I’m not texting and driving. Mrs Casey gets carsick so this guy almost always has a DD! More on her motionsickness later...a little foreshadowing for ya!!!

    Berry Beer - I am normally an IPA guy, and in fact kinda like my GD listening habits, that’s pretty much all I drink, however, as my self consuming friend says, summer time is different, especially when it’s a hot day on the lake. IPA can start to feel a little yucky on the tummy if ya know what I mean and that can lead to other problems...I digress....I do have 6 (or maybe 8) of those tasty bastards in my cooler though and contrary to this other tune that I know, they will not survive! Don’t worry folks, i don’t plan to do any Marathon drinking, at least probably not: and I have also packed a whole buncha water so I plan to hydrate between beers. My daughter and I are hooked on the bubbly stuff that we buy in bulk from Costco. No not Champagne people, get your minds outta the gutter. I’m still talking about water!!!

    Back to 69...I have digital copies and vinyl. Been a while since I’ve listened to the digital copies, so I will have to do that and give a comparison of the vinyl up to his point, however from my recollection the digital copy was damn good. The vinyl is also damn good, so AGS, I don’t think you can wrong with either, or as Jim says the last one you listen to is probably the best.

    Well I should probably get back to Truckin down 69, but wanted to check in cuz my reception is generally bad in the parts of the universe where we’ll be floatin this weekend. I do have The Complete Roadtrips downloaded on my Spotify account on my phone so if all goes well then I’ll be catchin up on some GOGD this weekend!

    Summer tours over, but summers still here folks....Play it loud and proud!

    KCJ

    Almost forgot...with risk of hurting some feelings, I will say that if you like IPA, I’m convinced that the best in the country is from a little brewery in Iowa called Toppling Goliath...they specialize in IPAs and although I’ve not been there, I’ve had the opportunity to try several of their IPAs. They are super tasty...and yes in my cooler. My favorite is probably the Psuedo Sue....give it a try if you get a chance! Now back to your regularly scheduled slow roasted coffee and 69 FIllmore West!

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    ...the answer to how many screamless PITB's there are is not nearly enough...

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    JiminMD,

    That is exactly why I asked. I don't have a turntable either.

  • JimInMD
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    Certainly 4/16/72 Aarhus comes to mind.. I bet there are more.

    AJS.. I will let you know when I finally get my turntable set up. I wouldn't wait up though.. I probably need a bigger house, but have no intention on moving.. I guess Dennis and I have this in common.. I used to have Vinyl night in my old house, but this one is a few sq. feet smaller.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Its intense so far and a great sound upgrade

KF - I couldn't understand why you were being so smug to me. I re-read my post and realized why. I came off kind of harsh on you. Was not my intention but it just didn't translate well. I'm sorry man. No hard feelings. I like you you're one of the ones who entertains us. If yours doesn't come today let me know I'll get you a copy of mine. Because I know you are a subscriber.

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#14,290 has landed.
Ripping to iTunes as I type.
The weekend already looks better!
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Followed by a new shipping notice of the Warfield CD's end of day Wednesday.... Which means by Monday everyone will be guessing what Dave's 31 will be, and more clues from Bolo on the box.... I decided to ease the wait with 10/19/73 Oklahoma city show. Have a good weekend everyone and enjoy the new release... Bob t

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...I’m just going to start things off by saying the second Disc opener, ‘Dire Wolf’ is just beautiful, both musically and audio quality wise! That’s the good ol Grateful Dead that I’m talking about! Lol love it. Primo 😉❤️🙏😎
...I LOVE Tom in this mix! And Pigpens vocals shines and sounds amazing!!! ✌️🤠

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I've just finished the ripping to WAV, file tagging, cheap art-working, and phone uploading of DaP 30. Takes f@#king forever. Now I shall listen - but first - here is preliminary album art. I say preliminary because these are cheapies that I sourced from a very close up camera-phone picture, followed by some MS Paint cropping. I have no scanner. If you just can't wait for the premium scans from our good friend Agent Smith, try these on for size. I know I will be replacing these as soon as I have "the real deal" from you-know-who.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H_vKSyXAOLDYjRj5EqeutB7N9-lrb418

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ri6Y3V68gC0fmLkJJyxv72M_A0Rv4fCB

P.S. - if I've accidentally shared out my entire drive - somebody send me a PM or email (AFTER you file my taxes for me :D )

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Most of his list has now been released either through Dave's Picks or 30 Trips, and of course Sunshine Daydream, but I'll still choose 11/17/71 over 12/14. He may have known 11/17, may not, but 12/14 and 12/15 are certainly more famous shows. I had heard both multiple times prior to DaP 26, preferring 12/15 for its Dark Star (just listened to it again, and that was a quick 20 min). I admit being a SBD snob, so I had overlooked 11/17. But I'd have to say since a year ago, it has been the most played Pick of the last 4 years for me. That Other One with its several different thematic jams is unbelievable and the NFA> GDTRFB> NFA is my favorite of that combo. It's better than the 11/15 Austin one from the Road Trips series, IMO. But either way, Mr. Paumgarten should be happy because he got that show minus Ramble on Rose (interestingly the 11/17 on Archive has Ramble on Rose listed as the encore, but it's tracked as the Set 2 opener on DaP 26, hadn't noticed that before). Though I do wonder whether he would revise that opinion and say that 11/17 was better. I don't recall listening to his 1970 Pick 6/24, but the later run at the Capitol with 11/8/70 only available in AUD is a stunner, and I would bet on that 6/24 being awfully good as well. Something about that theater.

Nick should do a follow up on how 7 years later most of those shows are released, and how he thinks the vault releases have been managed. There's been stuff put out that nobody really had like 7/1/78 (that I actually prefer to the Red Rocks shows), the complete 8/25/72, 2/2/70, Thelma 12/10-11/69, and he ignores 1967-68, which means he misses 11/10/67. It's been a great 8 years of releases! Wonder what he would think of DaP 30... And what do those who have received it think? Fingers crossed it's here tomorrow.

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Great to have my DAP 30 so soon, I agree Tom is very prominent in the mix and the shows are well mixed, I am not upset about the track running orders, as I feel we are lucky to get the 2 shows over 4 discs, this arrival today meant however that I didn't get my anniversary listening of the Olympia show, we are spoilt bunch really.

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Been training for the International Ostrich Races coming up this fall in Virginia City. My bird, August West, stopped short and flung me into a giant pile of ostrich poop.

I think I broke my infundibulum.

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Anybody else get a shipping notice with a dead tracking number? I called yesterday after trying to track and the girl said it wouldn't be active until today because May 3rd was the release date. Today my tracking number just says unrecognized.

edit: another day and still nothing. Anyone know what 237 carrier is for a shipper? Mine doesn't say USPS or UPS like the last shipments have.

Ostrich. 18 Minute Las Vegas Bird Song from 91? Virginia City is not in Virginia.

I think I am going to have to run this through Googles Quantum Computer or I will be up all night again....

....but usually I can just click the tracking number link on my email and it takes me right to the mailing site. No link this time. Need to copy and paste. No luck on either UPS or USPS sites. Says invalid tracking number. Wierd. And the Hurricanes sweep the Islanders to go to the final four. Amazing....
....and yes. Virginia City is just south of Reno. That was a Bird Song with Carlos Santana sitting in. Please don't tease me. And Vegas does get flaming hot....

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.....An infundibulum (Latin for funnel; plural, infundibula) is a funnel-shaped cavity or organ.
Tourists funnel their $$$ into slot machines hoping for 777's.
The ostriches name is August West. Vegas is in the West.

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I was listening today. First several are hotter than I remembered. Also prefer 11/17. That 12/15 Dark Star is a nice freebie. As in sounds great freebie. 11/17 to me is in the same class as Road Trips 3.2 11/15/71. The 11/14 Bonus is in the same class. Exceptional run.

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5 Stars.... Dont want to ruin it for anyone, but (spoiler alert) Your gonna Love this (these) release(s)!
It's just classic...not just the timing (Workingman's) but the recording captures great banter that really puts you front row, or stageside, for two hot NYC shows.
Thanks Bear!...per the booklet write up (the Foundation)... Bear, you will never be forgotten or not appreciated. I look fwd to all of your precious recordings from every artist that allows them to be released.
Thanks to you too Dave & Co for this (these!) gems!
iGrateful

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Been giving 30 a listen while watching S.F. come waaaay back from a 8-0 start.
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...and they got it in 11

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.... hardly a Giants fan, but that's impressive. Music on the ears. Sports on the eyes. Doing that right now with Seattle '73 and Stars/Blues. It works.

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My shipping mail had a (clickable) link. UPS states "Clearance in progress" at 03:58 EST this morning. Presumably it is about to wing it's way across the pond.

Edit: Now it turns out that the clearance referred to is prior to departure from Cologne, Germany so it has already crossed the pond and it may well be delivered to me in the Netherlands on Monday. Certainly is quicker than expected.

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Here’s my own ( limited brain power ) thoughts - looking back at previous record day store releases ( with the exception of wake up to find out - which had already been put on cd for one of the spring 90 boxes ) they have only ever been released on vinyl with no further output later in the year as a box . However the Warfield release has been given an immediate mass produced CD release along the same lines as Cornell ( pre get shown the light ) & believe it if you need it ( pre PNW ) elementary my dear Watson .
Of course I could be barking up a tree that’s in a different forest altogether . 😺😼😺😼

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It was late, I hadn't ripped them yet, and I knew I was probably only going to get through one disc before I fell asleep.

Its good.

The track ordering is weird tho. Alligator - Drums - Alligator- Feedback sequence is tracks 2-5. You can hear Jerry say "Goodnite folks, thank you" at the end of it but then there's still half the disc left. If they're gonna mix up the order anyway why not put that at the end so it at least *feels* like it was one continuous set.

Nitpicks tho.

Did anyone else order the T shirt? Any word on that arriving ?

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I'm bad at these but could it be Alpine Valley??? Fiery Cheetos=Cheese State is Wisconsin... August West=First Alpine show August 23, 1980.... Virginia City=Madison VA and Capitol of WI.... Liberace=born in West Allis WI... ostrich poo= I think Alpine ski hill was a garbage dump...... Bolos decade= first show 1980 last show 1989.... bob t

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I won't speak lubricious about it but will just say this Disc 3 is great great great. God bless the Alchemist. I like the picture of the crowd at the Fillmore East. If you look closely you can see one guy holding his head with both hands. I am sure he is tripping to disc 3 in that pic. Have a great weekend to all. Enjoy your 5 hours of 1970. Does anyone know if these were in the recovered batch of tapes? If not, how did they keep this one from us so long!

bobt - I like that line of reasoning!! I think you're on it! Great shows at Alpine from start to finish. Sort of my home stomping ground, with many fond memories. The 8/7/82 China -> Rider is the best post-hiatus version - change my mind ; )

I missed the 89 shows but if I remember correctly from the account of a friend there was epic rain nights 2 and 3 and people were body sliding in the mud down the ski slope by the 3rd night? (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.)

That 4th night of '88 that UJ61 referenced a few days ago was a wild one. A gift lost recovered. Lots of memories, though hard to say at this remove if they are all "accurate." I was about 6 rows out directly in front of Jerry. The Believe it of Not was tears-in-your-eyes emotional after the problems of the previous night. Couldn't have been a truer, more heartfelt, moment for its debut. And the Morning Dew was Over. The. Top. Pure expansive beauty. I remember 2 folks jumping on stage during the closing jam. First a guy just stood motionless right in front of Jerry, like he was watching the hand of god. A roadie walked him off and then this girl climbs up on stage and sits right down in front of Jerry - once again transfixed and enchanted. Jerry doesn't flinch, he's just tearing it up, playing for them and into them and everybody. Everything, everywhere, all at once. Sent home on the gentle waves of Blackbird and Brokedown. Wrote about all this a few years ago (gdhr 555).

Really looking forward to DaP 30 - arriving here next week I guess.

Enjoy the weekend everybody!!

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Nice little surprise, I had no advance warning. No email shipping notice...was getting worried. Just spinning disc 1, Mighty fine, love how it starts

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The Warfield vinyl was 10,000 and the cd 6,000 I believe. They did a limited (unnumbered) cd for 11/18/72 AFTER it was released for Black Friday RSD. Those Hofheinz cds were on sale here for a good long while before they finally sold out, now they go for around 100 bucks. So, grab the 2 cd set of the Warfield for 20 bucks while you can!

They played an early and late show each night at the Fillmore East for this run, hence the goodnight being after Feedback for that set. There was an encore following that sequence, too. But Bill Graham had bands do an early and evening set at the Fillmore East. The ABB put out a complete box set of their early and late shows that produced their classic Live at Fillmore East a few years ago, they mainly repeated their sets with little changes, but they had a much smaller repertoire. Thankfully, the Dead changed up the sets completely. Hopefully people bought tickets for both shows.

The tapes are from Bear's collection/Owsley Stanley Foundation. My first assumption had been they were more from the Houseboat Tape collection, since most of the tapes given to the Godchauxs were Bear recordings from this general period, but the credit in Dave's video and the liners is the Foundation. Which is good news, because it represents another source for tapes that may be missing from the Vault, and in an exciting period.

I got an email from UPS to say that it was being delivered on Friday. Being away I changed the date but they delivered it anyway according to my neighbour who checks while I’m away! Only trouble is I have two subscriptions (one I get for a friend) and only one has turned up!

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Can someone PM me or post the actual sequence for 1/3/70 ? I like to file so when I replay, I hear the show as it was originally played. Thanks, iG

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Setlist for 1/3/70 is refer you to the archive.

I dont have my compendium anymore.

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Early show
Morning Dew, Me & My Uncle, Hard To Handle, Cumberland 😔, Cold Rain & Snow, Alligator -> Drumz -> Alligator -> Feedback E: Uncle John's Band
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Late Show
Casey Jones, Mama Tried, Big Boss Man, China -> Rider, Mason's Children, Cryptical -> Drumz -> TOO -> Cryptical -> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band -> Black Peter, Dire Wolf, Good Lovin', Dancin' E: St. Stephen -> Midnight Hour
via DeadBase
....the mailmans eta is in approx 1 hr. Tracking info still not helping. Spinning Hawaii in the meantime.
My mailbox does have a slight glow to it however. Optimism vs Pessimism. A battle as old as time.

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Just listened to Dave's Picks Volume 30

Disc 3 has one of the grooviest, cooliest ,spaciest, "Dark Star" I ever heard!

Really a superb edition of Dave's Picks!

Thank You!

The UPS driver was there at my front door when getting home from work yesterday. What could be cooler than that? Well, the artwork for the bonus disc for one! To share a few thoughts that popped up last night with an initial listen of January 2:

--love the way Jerry digs and twists the melody around in his Cumberland solos

-- very nice TOO > Cosmic Charlie segue

--I never really thought of DIre Wolf as a 'folk song', but I hear now how those roots are there (I still didn't sing along though)

--Me & My Uncle has a slight spaghetti western quality to it, kinda goofy, but in a good way

--Dark Star......from deep space found myself roused into a Tighten Up samba jam which sounded like it had hints of what later would become Eyes, and much, much later, Foolish Heart, which was easily the highlight for me. Always great to make those connections that span decades!

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Is it just my copy or are all the vocals coming from the right speaker. Very soft on front left side. Is it just my copy or is this throughout? do I need to get in a Bear state of mind to listen to this. Shit drives me crazy.

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...it was in my P.O. Box this morning...drove back to work very very slowly...the "St. Stephen > The Eleven..." scared off all of the wildlife...

.... definitely underrated. Mailman is late. Maybe he busted it open already!
Nappy Rags. The Dead also control how my foot is applied to the gas pedal. Good to know I'm not the only one.
Fivebranch called out a nice Cumberland. Cool.
Hey Nappy!! You live in the Grand Canyon area, right? If you get on your pony and ride, you could make the Phil show. I have a spare room.

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Mine DP 30 arrived today. Uploading now.

Soon, I will have an aged single malt in hand, a cool spring breeze, and the Dead playing over my yard.

As it should be.

....I wonder if he got a re-entry stamp on his wrist in the Mos Eisley cantina? The fur may pose an issue.
Apologies. I multitask....

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...She caught the Katy and left me a mule to ride...but thanks for the offer

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