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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #2241
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    Sure get stoned at night!

    The 30 trips Alligator from The Shrine in 67 is one of my favorite 30 trips moments, yet somehow I never fully engaged on the Caution. Probably my favorite Gator, not counting the one under the seats between rows Double EE & FF at the Academy of Music. I probably play the ladies and gentlemen version the most. I think it's time I hunted down that whole Fillmore East run in good quality. I have some of it, like the 26th with its Dark Star.

    And with regard to the Dead Hand in Hamburg anniversary today, I don't know where I was getting off not mentioning Big Boss Man. Probably my favorite short Pigpen Song from the tour. Hindsight is 50/50, but I think it would have been cool if pigpen have played a few less good Lovins, and mixed in some smokestack lightning and good morning little school girls. Not to mention an alligator or two.

    Jimbo, love the reference to The Blues Brothers. I just watched they're warm up set for the closing of winterland on YouTube. Lightning in a bottle. Also came across a picture of Donna sitting with Belushi. Good Times. Let's get that Wayback machine and get directly involved.

    Anybody get a shipping notice for Dave's Picks 30 yet?

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    My absolute favorite moment from 30 trips.. and as I have written here several times, I blew out the speakers in my car on that one. For me, it was an epiphany moment.. I was left wordless and slack jawed.

    Nitecat.. except for the last song, your last five was entirely GD. Glad I am not the only one.

    Let the good times roll.. great topics on all things music.. We play both kinds.. Country and Western (aka Grateful Dead and everything else).

    Man. that caution. Wowwow stuff.

    Edit: Or perhaps it was The Other One where I blew my speakers.. no bother, that entire show was pure mayhem and simply wonderful (especially played very loud). Plus.. I blew out the rear speakers and dialed it back just so it was as loud as it could be without blowing out he fronts. What a great night and that show set the mood for the road trip. I think I was driving to visit my dad in the hospital if memory serves, six hours each way = 4 shows total. Blown speaker worthy? yes. It certainly eased the pain.

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    10/6/80 just wasnt happening :(

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    Jimbo & Oroborous - great…

    Jimbo & Oroborous - great 1983 / mid-80s commentary. You guys had me flipping through 30 Trips '83 and DP 6 today on the way to the food store. The live Touch Of Grey led me to the great studio version, which I hadn't put on in quite some time. Nice memories.

    Alvarhanso - thanks for the Cautions, I'll check those out this week. Also glad I'm not the only one to notice how similar the BTW and JS intros are.

    Bobby T - great call on the TC Dark Star from the Fillmore East. I love 1971 Dark Stars, and TC brings his trademark organ part to this one. It's followed by my all time favorite St. Stephen (Bobby is exceptional on the outro jam). I like putting The Eleven from Two From the Vault after that Dark Star / St. Stephen combo. The drums go together almost seamlessly on the transition. I can't wait for that whole Fillmore run to be released. I really enjoy Ladies & Gentlemen, but I don't have great soundboards of the entire run.

    Nitecat - "I repeated the best stuff twice" - great quote, and the reason it's taking me so long to get through the E72 steamer trunk.

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    Caution!

    My favorite is the one from the Shrine 11/10/67. When I got the 30 Trips Box that was my immediate favorite show and has remained so with subsequent listening. The opening clang of Viola Lee sold me, but that Alligator> Caution cemented it. The Greek show from the next year has a great one, too, if brief (funny that we can describe an 11 minute song as brief), and goes into what is probably my favorite Feedback. Maybe it's just the stage announcer's blown mind that gets me on that. The one from Thelma DaP 10 12/10/69 is a good one. For some reason, as fantastically as they play through the Fillmore West shows, the 2 they played that run never blew me away. The bonus disc one is pretty damn fantastic, but you already mentioned that one KF.

    Funny you mention the BTW/JStraw intros; they used to get me every damn time, and still do occasionally. Odd how they had two intros so close together, especially given that Bob would sometimes apologize for playing another song in the the same key as the previous one "at the risk of being repetitive". Ironically, few people would likely have even noticed, though I'm sure playing BTW and JStraw back to back would have been confusing.

    Three more days, though I may be counting chickens early, no shipping notice as yet...

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    DP 5 12/26/79: Great show, I was at this run of five nights at the Oakland Auditorium.
    Spring 1990 4/2/90: I'm almost done listening to these two boxes for the third time. What a tour!
    E72 4/26/72: T>Drums>TOO>Comes a Time> SM !! I've been listening show by show to the trunk for a few months now, so I didn't jump on the anniversary train and go back. The box that keeps on giving.
    DP 31 8/4,5,6/74: This collection took several evenings, I repeated the best stuff twice. Wow that 8/6 'filler' Eyes, Playin>Scarlet>Playin, UJB is a keeper.
    The Rascals Complete Singles collection: These guys dominated the airwaves in the late 60's-awesome songs and playing. People got to be free!

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    Tom Constanten joining in on Dark Star>St Stphen>NFA>GDTRFB>NFA...... Good Hard to Handle, Cryptical>Drums>Other One>Wharf Rat... Overshadowed by the next night, and the prior night you had the Beach Boys. (I am a big fan of Pet Sounds)

    Speaking of special guests, hard to top the Bangles 10/18/88 New Orleans joining on the encore of Aiko and Heaven's Door!!! Another rainy day in Rhode Island.... Bob t

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    Nice review of what it was like seeing The Dead in the mid 80's. There was so little coverage of the band in those years, in England, that I thought they'd split up ! Then in 1987 I saw a bootleg tape for sale in a music paper of a show from that year, and started digging around. And here I am.

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    L.M.G.; be well brother, may the four winds be with you!

    Jim, astute analysis as usual. 83 was such a transitional year in many ways, some I don’t think many folks realize.
    Yes JG was starting to really show signs of “health” issues. Musically, it seamed like they were starting to get a little looser, perhaps a little weirder? So because of both variables there was inconsistency. But we liked that go for broke vibe, and occasionally stumble and falling added to the excitement. That’s what I don’t like about 77, it’s too dam tidy, it’s too professional, too clean, I know that sounds nuts, but too me that’s not what the dead were about....don’t get me wrong, I totally get why many consider this the Dead at their best.
    So Brent had meshed for four years at this point, so compared to say 80 or 81 where songs are more short and tight, it seamed to me like they were melting around the edges more.
    They also were going through huge technical changes that I think factor in way more than most would think about.
    Phil was using the new Modulus 6 string and new gear, Weir had new stuff, most importantly they now were using the mighty Ultra Sound Meyers PA and monitors full time.This was awesome but it was definetly a process getting a handle on all this. I think this is why 83 sometimes sounds so funky...they hadn’t used it all enough to 1) collect enough acoustical data from the different venues and 2) totally learned/adjusted technique for this ridiculous, amazing new system/technology. Add to that the whole cassette master thing, and well, yea, sometimes it’s not so hot. On the flip side there are also some awesome matrix tapes from this year....but as Jim says it’s all over the place in 83.
    They also were starting to use the new vari lights full time this year too, and they had switched sides on stage only a year earlier...so much was going on that year, like many of the transitional years, and it showed, for good or for ill.
    Hell, one could argue the whole long trip was a constant transition, with of course certain times being more pronounced I.e., personnel changes, but a whole new P.A. system and monitors cannot be overlooked!
    Like you state, this process seamed to continue, both the good changes and the ahem, bad, through 84 and into 85.
    I recall also feeling like the whole scene was changing too. Like it was all getting bigger and better, but crazy and almost out of control, like that train jumping the tracks....to me 85 was when it sorta peaked. All that process that started in full back in 83 seemed to come to fruition. They were breaking out more psychedelic stuff, and getting weirder. Anyone who was on that 85 summer tour hopefully can relate?
    We went from super laid back scene at10k hockey rinks and half empty sheds to the madness of 2 around the clock days at Toga, then Hershey and Merriweather. Too much of everything was just enough! By 86 they started playing more stadiums, and it all just kept growing. The band, us, the scene, it was nuts, but like all things of hubris and excess it went too far. Throw in a hit record and crowds of uninitiated and by 87 it was over. Not the whole deal but that little wave ala HST in fear in loathing., that to me peaked in 85.
    Yes they could be sloppy and sometimes Jer sounds pretty ruff, but didn’t they always when they were going for it, trying to find the edge? More HST; “you don’t really know the edge unless you go over”....
    And yes we all got too big, and perhaps sometimes outta hand, but wasn’t that part of it? “Too much of everything...”, I don’t know what I’m going for, but I’m gonna go for it for sure”....
    All I’m saying is it was a great time to be in your twenties, on the road, and high with the Dead!
    Until it wasn’t, but luckily they played through it and came out the other side even stronger and better as we all know how great 89 through 90, 91? perhaps into 92? was.
    Sorry to ramble, just in a mood this AM and Jim’s post brought out the old member berries and nostalgia of perhaps the greatest time in my life, sniff, sniff 😢 ok enough, Onward!

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    Mr Heartbreak, I'm pleased you picked up on that reference. Indeed, he deserves better than his ex bandmates have given him in the Press. I was sure Mind-Ledt-Body would get it!

    I'm on to 4/29/72.

    The opening Playing in the Band only has a four minute jam section. I know it took them some time to build up the jam on this one, but I guess I didn't realize how short the actual jam sections are. Well, the last few on the tour stretch out a bit longer. Then of course by '74, they went on for a half hour regularly, and Kreutzmann couldn't remember which huge jam song he was in the middle of (Long Strange Trip quote).

    I've decided I like they 1972 Sugarees best, even if 5/28/77 is my favorite (19 minute, huge solo); but generally speaking, '72 is the year for me on this one. Short and sweet. I think that's the theme on most early Grateful Dead songs for me. In 71 & 72, everybody was still playing guitars that I liked, and all the right backup vocalists we're involved at the right times.

    First UJB of the tour on this show. That's balls. Nine shows in before they play UJB. Then they only played it four more times in Europe. In hindsight I guess they always played this tune sparingly.

    First He's Gone to feature the middle 8 / winds don't blow so strange verse. I think I'll always enjoy Rockin the Rhein's performance the best, even without the middle 8. My dog has no nose... in any event, I think it took them until summer to really get that part well oiled. Right around Berkeley.

    Starting with the Dusseldorf show on 4/24, they changed up the intro to Black-Throated Wind, from a little drum roll thingy to a guitar strum thingy that sounds almost identical to Jack Straw. When I first got into the Dead, I couldn't tell the difference until Jerry either went into the BTW riff or the Jack Straw improv fill. And I used to think, man, how do they keep from getting mixed up when they're playing it live? The answer is they didn't. This is the one they mixed up. Jerry plays the Jack Straw fill and Bobby sings the BTW verse. Jerry doesn't play the BTW riff until the second verse. I always get a kick out of this, thinking they probably figured nobody would ever notice. Little did they know their legend would overtake their anonymity.

    And of course it's Dark Star night. Lots of cacophony on this one - Probably not one of my favorites. They hit the Feeling Groovey riff early, but leave it behind pretty quickly. They hit the main Dark Star theme at the halfway mark. Jerry throws in a little Caution riffing somewhere around 23 minutes. Keith is audible at times. How I would love to interview every last one of them while listening to these ancient Dark Stars.

    Caution does eventually appear for one of only five appearances, if my memory serves me. I'm trying to think if these are the only ones to feature Keith, before Pigpen died. In any case, I like the piano and organ duo, despite Keith's being mixed low or not at all. I lean towards the Europe 72 Cautions, but I admit I don't know the early ones nearly as well. Except for the 30 minute romp from the FW bonus disc. Any great Cautions you guys want to throw them away, I'll be sure to listen to them soon. Thank you. Bomp>Bomp>BOMMMB!

    China Rider - always welcome in a set list. They didn't play it quite as long on the Europe 72 tour, but it was about as tight as can be, and the Rider vocals we're stunning every time.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 09:27

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...I have new copies of Daves Picks #26, #29 and #30 for sale. I need money for my monthly Medicine. My asthma Meds alone are over $400.00 a month...medical system here is horrible, just terrible. A lot of people are suffering and even more importantly, people are dying...anyway sorry to get off the subject but if your interested please send me a PM message for any questions and such. I don’t want to disturb the message board. Thank you & have yourselves a grateful day, peace be with you all. 🙏❤️😎

…… he's so old he came before OMG!

Got my 45 single coming tomorrow,,,, us blues and loose lucy. In case anyone gives a rats a, oh and (I keep forgetting), someone along the line mentioned "Good Rats". Just for the sake of "puttin' it out there", I have an ok collection of Rat Music. Truth be told, I never cared that much for them (girl with the yellow flower and injun joe), but my buddy was really big on them. He knew pepi(?) and his son, follow them for YEARS. If there is interest out there PM me.

...my asthma meds is called ‘Advair’ and i also carry a rescue inhaler... crazy money! But I can’t live without it, I suffer from chronic asthma and my cat is a big trigger as well for SOB... :(
...what makes me upset is if your a heroin addict they will give you free methadone but if you suffer from a terminal disease they charge you a lot of bread, crazy stuff my brothers & sisters...

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 13:24

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...so back to our regular programming, this morning I decided to go to the opposite side of the spectrum of Daves Picks #30 and pulled out 10/1/94 Boston Garden, Boston, MA. I have to say I enjoyed this show far more than my last listen which was years ago. Jerry is in fine voice and guitar playing as well. The whole band is really playing Primo!!!
Then during my afternoon I listened to and Gratefuly enjoyed 10/29/77 Live at the Field House, IL another Primo show during the fall of 77’... keep on trucking my brothers & sisters, peace be with you all. 🙏❤️😎

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 15:33

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I wouldn't even try and answer that. To me the whole run is beyond objective analysis-they are just great shows to lose yourself in. I don't play them one after the other (one), but every time I play one it works on every level. In a way, they were unencumbered by trying to change the song list every night. They just focussed on the limited repertoire, and expanded it to unlimited dimensions. I used to think of 3/1 as my favourite, simply because, if memory serves me well, it features more songs from Aoxomoxoa. But I haven't got a favourite now.

It could be said, if I can't distinguish one show from another, and don't play them one after another-why don't I just stick with 2/27, and play that one whenever the mood takes me. To which I would answer-to me this is THE classic run, and, although its an indulgence, I would love all the music played within it in the best sound quality available. I guess if you are not so disposed, the three cd set that came out a few years ago, coupled with Live Dead would be the best option.

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Submitted by dreading on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 15:55

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I thought you were all peace and love? I see it in your words and your emojis all the time. Where's your compassion for the heroin addicts? First of all methadone is not necessarily free, but even if it was free to all, who are you to judge a heroin addict? You don't know what life circumstances lead them there. Maybe they saw and performed some horrific deeds while defending our country, leading them to post-traumatic stress disorder. Maybe they stumbled on heroin and it provided them relief from a waking nightmare. And you're sitting there with a cat that you say worsens your asthma condition, and then you begrudge other people who suffer from something as difficult to overcome as addiction? (and heroin is the worst kind). But it upsets you that somebody in that kind of circumstance maybe getting free relief. That doesn't smell like love to me at all that smells like judgment. You are better than that. I sympathize for you and I'm sorry you are in a tight situation, but addiction is a very real and sad situation that almost always ensnares people before they realize the gravity of their mistake. Have a heart. Ours is not to judge.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 16:32

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I must of wrote it the wrong way, I’m sorry... I do love addictived people, I am one of them.
I’m a recovering alcoholic. I used to be afraid of meds and so I self-medicated myself until the disease took me over. I’ve now givin up the booze for meds and take my prescribed meds accordingly... I’m in the process of earning my degree in drug addiction. My second major in college was psychology so most if not all my credits are almost keep. I’m hear if anyone needs someone to talk to. Any time my brothers & sisters! I’ve been in recovery since 2013.
My point was about the cost to treat two different individuals and two diseases🙏❤️😎
...if I upset you by any means, that was not my enttention. I’m not the greatest writer around. 🙏❤️😎
PS- does anyone remember the ‘Wharf Rat ‘ section at some of the Dead’s concerts?! They would have balloons everywhere, they were a group of deadheads that are in recovery to any drug or alcohol... I always believed that was a grateful part for some of the Grateful Dead’s fans!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 16:46

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....my youngest step-daughter got hooked on that stuff. Never tried it myself, and have no intention to. She was hooked on it so bad, she stole a purse from a lady in a park, just so she could get arrested and get clean in jail, which actually worked. Now she's happy, clean and had a beautiful son a year ago. Her plan was one way of doing it.

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"Cry out, I'm trapped under rice!"

destroy all robots, already

it's a clown world, folks

"throw (him) into the pond!"

beneath the shiny veneer, lies a vat of maggots and vermin

every time I see LMG's name, my mind hears the opening riff and vocal of Doors' 5 to 1

every. single. time.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 17:50

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I really just thought you loved your girl LOL. Now I remember you saying you were a Doors fan when that whole Doors / Who discussion went down. Another mystery solved. First the live Terrapin Station record, now LMG. Nobody here gets--out alive......

Robby Krieger' guitar solo from Five to One was copied twice on two different songs by two different guitar players who belong to bands that have sold millions of records each.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 19:24

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...’5 to 1’ intro and also on the end of the song, ‘Hello I Love You’... and I always say that to my two daughters, Lily Rose & Delilah!!! 🙏❤️😉

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 19:48

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....sometimes I wish I had three. Then Three Dog Night popped in my head. Spotifying that....pronto, and Naturally.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 20:36

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One of those bands I don't always put on, but when I do I realize they have a lot of good stuff. Joy to the World absolutely evokes memories of being a kid in the '70s. Jeremiah was a bullfrog, was a good friend of mine...

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 20:48

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I picked the FW'69 box set a couple of years ago for a high, but not ridiculously high price, and don't regret it at all. Looking at the price of the vinyl sets of individual nights 2/27/69 and 2/28/69, I feel even better as it looks like I will have paid about the same as if I picked it up on vinyl as individual nights, assuming that the remaining two nights get released on vinyl. I haven't picked up the vinyl, both due to the cost, and since there are a limited number, it seems right to let folks who may not have the box set pick up the shows in vinyl.

I kind of view this run as DaveRock described it, THE classic run, and particularly given that the 2/27/69 Dark Star from Live Dead was one of the things that got me hooked on listening to the Dead in the first place. Picking up the box set of the full run was like scratching an itch that you weren't able to reach before. Now that these comments have got me thinking about it, probably time to give another listen to one of those shows tomorrow.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 21:14

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... first time I've done this, but it's been a good day :)

5. DP30 Bonus Disc - This makes the release truly special...

4. Mogwai - The Hawk is Howling - recommended by a friend, and it is OUT THERE, in a spacey/ambient/METAL kind of way... the first track is called "I'm Jim Morrison, I'm dead" and it is sounds just like that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV6q1w9RMGw

3. Booker T and the MGs - McLemore Avenue - their tribute to Abbey Road, recorded only months after the original album was released... Booker talks about being so blown away by how The Beatles stretching themselves musically on Abbey Road (when they didn't really have to) was inspirational, and he and the boys had to record the music. The album features Booker and the boys playing nearly all of A.R., mostly in two long medleys. If nothing else though, check out their version of "Something"... my god... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xA0A0v-oQc&t=3281s

2. Booker T and the MGs - Melting Pot - after McLermore Ave, I had to keep going, and this one beats the shit out of that flimsy-flamsy Beatles nonsense on the previous entry! MIND. BLOWN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlai0BQarrc

1. DP13 aka Skeleton Skaters (currently listening)... is there a better first set in the Dave's collection? I'm hard pressed to name one. The China>Rider alone makes this one a standout, and it's a mid-set selection! Those 74 China>Riders are truly a cut above (probably my favorite year for them, though I love so many others...) Listening to this one nice and loud in the car on the way home tonight - proper state of mind for an intense listen - it blew me away! I got to the end of China Cat, and then restarted it again to see how they got there after JUST listening to it! Does it rival DiP12 (6/26/74)? I think it very well may :)

On the Cumberland that starts set 2 now. Oh, that Loser and Playin' that end the fist set only add to my feeling that Dave's Picks 13 (S.S.) has the best 1st set of any of the releases... and you all know what happens after a killer first set.

Beep Bloop Beep - I am a robot

EDIT: Selections 4-2 were first time listens for me today... like I said, it was a good day :)

Peace

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 05:50

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...the sun is shining brightly today with a nice cool breeze in the air. Decided to play 6/22/73
P.N.E. Coliseum from the boxset...love’n it!!!
🙏❤️😎 have a grateful day my brothers & sisters.

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We truly were just talking about them (again) last night at the store. I always find the amazing thing about them is how different their songs are to each. (kinda like The Hollies)

Just for shits and giggles - when Hoyt wasn't buying an awful pet for his kid, he was writing Joy to the World. If Jeremiah was such a good friend, why didn't he help with the gremlins?

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 06:57

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a classic

a nice loose feel, an (almost) unique opener with Slewfoot, a rare closer...check out the vocals on Dire Wolf...

"High on a mountain" indeed

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 07:02

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....man, that hit the spot last night. Pretty damn good band. Looks like they're playing Laughlin, Nevada June 15th. Hmmmm.

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Annie Versarry

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 07:25

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I have to agree with Daverock and Charlie.. but I do wonder.. if each and every show was recorded with the care of those four nights the world would be a different place. The recordings really do make a difference.

Speaking of classic runs, you're right.. Big Rock it is..

Edit: Did someone mention DaP 13? Now that three night run should have been released as a box set.. missed opportunity.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 07:31

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I have to concur with your evaluation of Skeleton Skaters. I love the US Blues opener. The Candyman has a fantastic solo from Senor Garcia, and the China Cat Sunrider has always been very close to Dick's Picks 12 and Road Trips '74. Off the top of my head, the only other Dave's Picks first set that comes close is volume one, which starts off with that amazing Mississippi Half-step. Anniversary coming up tomorrow. These 2 have always been favorites of mine, but I never realized how strong that first set was on Skeleton Skaters .

Hokey Religions and Ancient Weapons are no match for a good Blaster at your side.

Edit - Jim, just saw your comment about the missed opportunity for releasing the 2/22 - 2/24 run from 1974. I can envision a box set that looks just like the Winterland 73 and 77s, of course with a slight variation on the front cover Stealie and inside group painting (maybe some white powder in there) , and the color is

Red. Winterland 1974: The Complete Recordings. For my part, I've included Here Comes Sunshine on the Skeleton Skaters release in my digital folder. The soundboard is so good you can't even tell it doesn't really belong there.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 08:50

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...greetings my fellow Deadheads.
I just wanted to post that the Grateful Dead Road Trips Vol.1- #2 is back in stock at Dead.net store. If anyone missed this release this is a good time to add it to your collection of Dead music. IMHO, you can’t go wrong with this $20 release price. Includes Primo music plus a great article/essay. “Don’t let go don’t let go”...🙏❤️😎

...Today at noon, from 30TATS, 6/24/85 - Riverbend Music Center, Cincinnati, OH :) :) :)
Strap yourself in for the second set, it’s a killer!!!

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 09:36

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Jim, I would buy that Winterland box set even though I have DaP13. I haven't even listened to the other two shows, but I'm sure the're good.

Lovemygirl, can I call you 521? Haha, has a nice ring to it eh? Hey I noticed you usually post a lot of the Rhino web site ads for new releases after they go up. And today you posted about Road Trips 1.2 going back up for sale. I gotta ask, are you a Rhino employee?

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 10:00

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I just booted up 5/31/69 w/out looking at the set list or venue or anything - and I was delighted to hear Ken Kesey's voice from the stage , reminding me of the classic Veneta '72 show. This is the only other show I've heard him on, so I'm extra psyched and hoping there's a tent for lost kids. Rowrrrifyou don't know, you don't wannna know!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 10:07

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...I’ve posted New releases before an official announcement from Rhino & Dead.net. on this message board. You may have missed or not read some of my past posts concerning upcoming releases. I can not confirm nor deny if I work for Rhino but I can tell you “I am not a robot!” Lol ...1+1=5 ?! 😉

...7” SINGLES COLLECTION VOL. 10: U.S. BLUES / LOOSE LUCY... Beautiful Artwork, Primo Audio!🙏❤️😎

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Submitted by SkullTrip on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 11:37

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Not one that I listen to often. But whenever I do, it's always better than I remember.

On second thought, maybe I am a robot after all...

"Deckard? Deckard?"

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 12:33

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Heh, I switched it to Babbs, and then back to Kesey. Damn pranksters, they're all Ken to me. Just finished on headphones at work. What a trip. They had. Right? Excellent suggestion Stoltzie, I'd take it as a release any time. Of course, I'd take anything with 'you-know-what' on it as a release). I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but I will say that the intro to track 15 was reeaaalllllly cool.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 13:01

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...to whoever got the FW '69 talk rolling on this thread, gave me the impetus to put 3/1/69 on to start the day.

Talk about forgetting how good a show or run of shows is, what a great show. The 3/1/69 Dark Star is fantastic, the icing on the cake to a bunch of good stuff, and the Cosmic Charlie had a kind of swinging sound that really clicked for me on this listen. I have to say that I would gladly waive any "limited edition" rights that I have as possessor of an original box in order to see this run released again on disc for all to enjoy.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 13:06

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LMG that's real cool that you re-post some of the current releases, but everything I've seen you post has been announced already by either deadnet or Rhino. What new stuff have you posted before Rhino & deadnet?

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 17:04

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Yeah it is extraordinary that they have all of this stuff available to listen to after all these years. I wonder if they have this one in the vault and better sound quality. Like Jim was saying, there's so much riding on the quality of the audio. But I found this one to be good enough to enjoy on headphones. And there is like you said always some jewels in the shows. I guess I don't need to keep it a secret, he was a friend of mine was mind blowing. The between song banter with babbs just made it all that much better.

Skulltrip, I like that Dave's Picks 16. Disc 3 is a no brainer, but I will say that those particular performances are top shelf. The playing in the band is the perfect length, I remember the vocals on eyes of the world I recorded very nicely. You know how sometimes it's hard for whomever to mix the chorus vocals just exactly perfect but it got on here. This was also the show that really made me appreciate Cumberland Blues. It is a huge kick in the balls the Garcia's guitar goes out right in the middle of the solo, but it's not out for long. What a gray fucking song that is right. I also recall Jack straw has some great Nuance type guitar work from Jerry, especially when they hit that final chorus. And you can't beat the front cover the CD case it looks like something out of Scooby-Doo. Let me know if you find any more gems on that one.

On the ride home, just listened to the Dark Star from 12/18/73. Definitely one of the better ones.

And now I think I'll shoot over to that eyes of the world we were just talking about from Scooby-Doo House. Thanks for the recommendation Skulltrip

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Submitted by Exile On Main St. on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 17:47

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Are you saying we have a false prophet in our midst? Lol

Vguy is that 10 copies with or without bonus?

So far I’d have to say this is my fav Dave’s....do like that Winterland “skeleton skater” one a lot too, but keep coming back to the Scooby-Doo house......wish I had Scooby snacks to go with, Wuff! 😎

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Submitted by dougbhigh on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 20:49

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Let's not forget that all these shows depends on how Garcia was feeling that night. He was such a perfectionist, ie:
the time at the Carousel Ballroom(Fillmore West) when after the 2nd set he pulled Phil off the 4 stair exit on stage right
onto the floor and gave him shit about how it wasn't right. Jerry's response in a later interview: "I was so wrong and so high, that when i listened to it later Phil was right" Love the Dave's Picks 30 with Ron and T.C. I think i heard Pig's Hammond B-3 with Lesley speakers in there too. Keep it up Dave!! Love the Jams of the Week too!!

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Submitted by dougbhigh on Fri, 05/24/2019 - 20:54

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i want some psychedelics for Dark Star Orchestra at the Red Rocks Ampitheater, Colorado on Sept. 8th
i can be as discreet as you wish, Doug 623-777-0858
They are going to play the same sets the Grateful Dead played on Sept 8(same day), 1983!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 05/25/2019 - 01:05

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It seems like your right. False prophet. ---just estimating.

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Submitted by direwulf on Sat, 05/25/2019 - 02:40

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I hope that's a tongue in cheek joke and if not I appreciate your dilemma but please dont start using this board to secure hookups, especially so publicly. Geesh, CO just decriminalized mushrooms, so show up on lot, I'm sure someone will help you out. We are not living in the safest times for people like us anymore. Elmer Fudd the fascist could be near by, never know whose listening.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/25/2019 - 06:02

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...”When the mind is wild with mockery
And filled with pride & haughty arrogance,
And when you want to show the hidden
faults of others, To bring up old dissensions or
to act deceitfully
And when you want to fish for praise
Or criticize and spoil another’s name
Or use harsh language sparring for a fight,
It’s then that like a log, you should remain”...
Have a grateful day my brothers & sisters!
* This morning I reached far & wide into the Dead’s cannon and pulled out 3/27/93 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany NY from the ‘30TATS boxset. First listen since 2015, Im dig’n it! A different kinda set list from most concerts, and some rare performances through out the first night of a three day run... keep on trucking folks! 🙏❤️😎

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 05/25/2019 - 07:33

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1132 out of 10,000 arrived here. It does have some very nice artwork. The US Blues side of the sleeve has uncle sam shaking hands with a gun with both arms wrapped in money. The loose lucy side has lucy(?) flying/drifting over the Haight Ashbury house(?)

As usual I'm looking for if anyone else got a download site for the digital copy?

Seems the last few I've had to go searching for it. I use to get an email with a location.

Would have put this in the 45 section, but no one is there!

I think it was banter back and forth between Daverock and LMG that got the FW 1969 discussion going. I have been hankering for that vibe.. it had been too long and 1/2&3/70 brought be so close.. but not quite there.. didn't scratch that itch. I had He Was a Friend of Mine running through my head.. (funny to see KF and Stoltzfus found that one).

Stolie pointed me to Big Rock Pow Wow,, and … well.. Wow is right. Started with:

Doing That Rag>
He Was a Friend of Mine >
China Cat Sunflower>
The Eleven>
Death Don't Have No Mercy
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Ended with Morning Dew for Good Measure

Wow.. so exactly perfect I ended up listening to the other discs in quick order. Itch = scratched.. thanks for the suggestion.

Charlie.. interesting read.

Got the opportunity to see String Cheese for the first time last night at the Cumberland Fairgrounds (great venue.. nice 200 foot cliffs and the mighty Potomac River enclosing the fairgrounds). I am not saying the place compares with Red Rocks.. but it very much reminds me of it. What a great band, had a very good time and lots of guest artists sitting in. (Happy Birthday Del)

He was a Friend of Mine.. such an interesting tune, I like the old Dylan and Dave Van Ronk versions too.. for what it's worth.

I think I will go back to 69 and play around for another day or so.

But first.. a late era Vegas Peggy-O.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX9Vhv4akxc

Have a great weekend all, and for those in the states, enjoy your Memorial Day Weekend.. be kind.

Back to your regularly scheduled Drums and Space

I remember it well

The Mighty Quinn

I was in the throes of lysergia that night, my friends.

The after party was fuuuun

I gained a whole new appreciation for Bear's Choice.

Prophetic lyrics
Thats the last youll see of me
After 5 26 95, i didnt see Jerry again

But i have HEARD him.

:)))

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