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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    After all the comments on the bass enhancement for DaP 24 I decided to revisit that one - I have to say that while the bass is certainly prominent at points, I don't really find it distracting and it is really a good show. I am running a straight 2 channel set up with some large floorstanding speakers and no sub-woofer, which may be a factor. There is generally something about a sub-woofer that is uncomfortable to my ears and the large floorstanding speakers have plenty of bass.

    JiminMD, nice summary of the road trips stuff. Have to say that the 12/28/79 show is one of my favorite releases from '79, and that 11/15/71 Austin show is also a highlight. Also dig the 3/31-4/1/88 release as I was at both of those shows, so that adds an extra element for me.

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    The series was ok.. but had some spectacular must haves.. As daverock mentioned. I bet Mr. Jack Straw has them ranked..

    Some really do kick some serious ass though, off the top of my head:

    - Valentines Day 68. A stunner. Don't forget to pick your lower jaw off the ground when the final chords of Midnight Hour dissipate or you will have a mouthful of dirt and/or gravel when the spell finally wears off.

    - 5/15/70 (on sale now). The best sounding 1970 acoustic stuff released thus far, and if that wasn't enough to seal the deal a couple awesome electric sets for good measure. (Well.. there are a few acoustic songs on Bears Choice, but these sound every bit as good).

    - 12/28/79 (the other Betty recorded 79 release that escaped the rapid fire synapse exchanges of the famed HendrixFreak)

    - 5/23&24/69 Big Rock Pow Wow. Wow is right! With every listen I like it more.

    - 6/16&18/74. As Daverock mentioned.. not to be missed. A jazz masterpiece and a Grateful Dead classic. Contains my personal favorite Eyes of the World (or at least the last one I listened to).

    - 11/21/73. Goodness! What a great show.. has a little 11/20 just because..

    - A summer and fall from '71. Not sure which I like the best.. Summer has a Dark Star>Bird Song and Fall has the Dark Star > El Paso > Dark Star.. a real Bobby Dazzler to be sure.

    - 6/9/76 (and a little from 6/12). I think it has Sixtus' fav. Eyes of the World and the only official release (so far) with Mission in the Rain.

    - Bonus discs.. some of these are to die for.

    Honorable Mentions include From Egypt with Love, Spectrum 82, Fall 77, well.. all the rest I guess.

    They did go overboard on the recycled packaging concept. Enclosing them in apparently rough-cut recycled brown grocery bags so dark brown on some the artwork could barely be seen. Not to fear though.. they also sourced and mixed in some barely used sandpaper to stiffen up the covers and retain that scratchy, fine grit freshness that delicate CD's just love! And apparently when they were shredding up the paper bags a few of the master reels cut all chopped up too. What else would explain chopping up some of the shows the way they did (thinking 74, summer 71, 79 and a few others).

    ________
    (sorry for the long post, for those under time restraints skip the jib/jab above and go directly to the executive summary below)
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    I guess in summary.. under-rated.

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    Give it just a minute....

    https://youtu.be/yXbpxNghcCw
    ....and it will blow away.
    Give it just a little minute, give it just a little minute, give it just little minute now!
    Love Phil's dolphin dye.

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    Kenny.. check your PM / EMail.

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    Thanks for the feedback on Road Trips Fillmore release. Before I ordered I had sent an email to Real Gone asking if the release was currently available, and the response stated: "We finally got it in. Retail release date remains unclear as a large portion of our stock is still missing. But you can order from our site now." Just in case anyone was interested.

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    I'm still banking on....

    those two dead horses: '79 for DaP 31 and fall '72 for the box.

    A '79 for DaP 31 would seem to be the first since DiP 5 from 1996 (???!!!), at least according to my shelves. (Perhaps I have missed a release or two?)

    A fall '72 box would fly off the shelves while July 78 and PNW are still in stock.

    In 5 daze, we'll know about DaP 31 and in 23 daze we'll know the box.

    Yowzer! I sure hope I haven't jinxed anything...

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    All the 1978 talk brought me out of the weeds. I have never been a completist with the Grateful Dead releases-- I have skipped plenty of releases over the years (box sets, Dicks Picks, Road Trips and skipped 4 Dave's Picks before doing subscription in year 3 and subsequent years). I have surely skipped some good ones-- especially some Dicks Picks that I should have in my collection, but hindsight.... If given the choice, I will almost always skip 1976 shows, the 1974 compilation releases, anything post-Brent, and most box sets because of cost and familial responsibilities.

    That said, a couple months back someone on here did a listing of releases by year. I am missing releases from almost all eras/years. I almost never skip a Pigpen release (kick myself for not getting the Kings Beach Bowl 1968 release). For every year sans Pig with a significant # of releases, I skipped some-- except for 1978. I found that I have every 1978 release they have put out.

    So, 1978 must be one of my favorite years. I think it goes back to my tape trading days. One of my first tapes was Winterland 10/22/78 and I soon got 7/8/78 (my 8th birthday) set 1 and encore. Both stellar shows and I can say that the Scarlet/Fire through Going Down the Road Feeling Bad on 10/22/78 is some of my very favorite Grateful Dead. I absolutely love the From Egypt With Love release. Not much to say about 7/8/78 that hasn't been said (I got KISS stuff at my 8th birthday party) other than I never had the second set and WOW.

    Dick's Picks 18 February 1978 is seared in my mind. Another top notch Scarlet/Fire, a long Samson (broken string extends the intro jam), top of the line Truckin' and a rockin' Other One with a screaming Jerry jam in the middle.

    I could go on and on (the Lazy Lightning/Supplication from DiP 25), but why 1978 for me? The sets are more predictable than 1977, many times the band seems to run out of steam after Drums even on official releases and Bobby was doing his experiments with slide guitar in front of 10,000 people nightly. Well, I think that I overlook the valleys and feel that the peaks are so significant that they truly elevate the rest of the show. I have skipped every box because of cost-- except July 1978. I couldn't pass that one up. And I love it-- and agree that the 'hidden' gem of the box is 7/1/78. They had to have melted some country and western faces that day. Just a blistering set in front of what was surely an interesting crowd.

    That said, there have been some weaker 1978 releases-- DaP 7 and the MacArthur Court come to mind. Both are overrated, in my opinion, but am happy to have them in the collection.

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    will be announced on July 16th at 10 am.

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    I wonder... if they announce the new box during MUATM, does that mean there will be a pre-order email the following day? Like others mentioned, it seems odd that they would announce it first there...

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    I too pre-ordered that Road Trips (5-5-70) from Real Gone and got the e-mail around the original release date that it would be delayed. Mine showed up at the house (Chicago) this past Tuesday.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

The clues have dried up and we are already at the end of May. The PNW box is still available for those that do not have it yet.
I was looking through the liner notes of the Dead Set reissue. For disc 2, they have songs from the Warfield dates and Radio City, which would lead me to believe they would have had the full shows when they completed that reissue. Maybe this year is the year we get that fantastic run! I need more Shakedown Streets.
If not 1980, my guess would be a late 80's Shoreline run.
Hopefully next week is the week??

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I just saw that real gone music is releasing road trips vol 3 no 3 June 14th.

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when I hear the opening notes I go "uhh".

never was a fan.

oh, I've listened to plenty of them, and still do, but..."not Lovelight _again_!!!"

"I get action from my piggly wiggly woman..."

snore

then the band jams hard on it which is good

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...a grateful day to everyone!
Speaking of the AOXOMOXOA (50TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION) release,
the dead.net store is sold out/out of stock as of right now. Wow! That’s a grateful positive sign for the band and the fans! Excited for this release... take care everyone, god bless.
🙏❤️😎

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...I’m listening to the Grateful Dead’s ‘Road Trips Vol.1 No.2’ Bonus Disc as I write this post.
Recordings included on the donus Disc come from 10/7/77, 10/11/77, 10/14/77 & 10/16/77.
Sweet Set-list...’Scarlet Begonias>>Fire On The Mountain , Estimated Prophet, Loser, Sunrise, Iko Iko>>The Wheel>>Wharf Rat>>Sugar Magnolia’ !!! PRIMO lol 🙏❤️😎
PS. I posted this before but Incase anyone missed it, Dead.net store has the Road Trips Vol.1 No.2 ‘October 77’ available to purchase and for $20 you can’t go wrong. The few copies available from dead.net also includes the Bonus Disc ! I mentioned above the contents of the set-list. So for $20 you recieve 3 CDs of primo Grateful Dead music from one of their greatest tours durning the Dead’s history. It still makes me smile that started from the 2008 release date!
Rock on my brothers & sisters, peace be with you all! 🙏❤️😎

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https://archive.org/details/gd92-05-31.sbd.paino.544.sbefail.shnf/gd92-…
....H>S>F and a Scarlet>Fire in the same show. A very nice Picasso Moon. A lilting Attics and Steve Miller sat in from Spoonful to the end of the show. I took my younger sister to this one and dosed her. I remember her & I sitting in our car after the show people watching until they made us leave. She bought a grilled cheese in the lot, proceeded to open and close the slices of bread, amazed at how the cheese stretched then would reform it its original form when she closed the bread slices back together. I don't think she ever ate it. She's a good looking woman and I had to keep fending off my friends from hitting on her. Good times....

...in case anyone was looking for it (I was), Dead & Co just dropped webcast info for Summer tour. They waited til like the last possible second considering it starts tonight....just sayin'.

VGuy, I concur - that is a pretty good show from this end...

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I'm not a love light fan either, generally speaking...but 5/24/72 was basically the only version I knew for years, as it was a bonus track on Rockin' The Rhein. It's 12 minutes with no rapping and some of the most unique jamming theses guys did. To each his own, but I'd hate for you to miss out on something special. But I could be too late. The half hour piggly wiggly pocket ball versions may have ruined it for life. I shit you not, if I had only 3 Pigpen tunes to take to my desert island, the 5/24/72 Lovelight would be one of them. Good luck.

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....sweet! What's also sweet, is that nugs is offering a free stream tonight of the Unlimited Devotion Rex Foundation Benefit. They're also streaming the JRAD show in Eugene tonight. Let's see....TV, PC & Tablet. I'm all set! Dead & Co is only in HD? No SD?

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Hi All,
I am slightly late to ABB discussion. However recently over on the Grateful Dead Guide blogspot, the author posted a great and thorough comparison of The Dead and ABB. Now I am fairly certain the point of this was more to showcase the times each band shared the bill and/or collaborated on stage together. Still the author does go into detail about what ABB members thought of the Grateful Dead and such. I am not going to review all of this but rather I am sharing the link below so all of you can check it out if you feel like it:

https://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-dead-and-allmans.html

For me personally I love the ABB. I saw them twice with their version of the Core Four in the line up: Greg, Dickey, Butch and Jaimoe. I also saw the line up several times that included Warren, Oteil, and Derek. I always had a good time at their shows and I felt they really went after it when they jammed. Interestingly, the last time I saw the ABB was in 2008 when they played in State College, PA. Also on that bill that night was The Dead…

I loved Roguedeadguy’s description of each band; that was spot on. I will say when it comes down to it for me though The Grateful Dead always were able to hit me on an emotional level that ABB couldn’t. As a matter of fact, The Grateful Dead are really the only band that has the ability to take my heart, mind, and soul on journeys. Besides this The Grateful Dead did have many innovative ideas that they pursued which I also think have made them second to none. For the ABB though, that early period of 69-73 is tremendous. I have not heard any shows from 74-76, and I know they started to unravel in those years as band turmoil took over. Yet with the band losing two of it’s main members in succession and still being able to produce great music and jams is quite amazing if you ask me. My only issue with the ABB is that since they did not have the innovations that the Grateful Dead had there is a lack of live material from them. Of course there is a lot from 1971 and that is important as not only did they have both Duane and Berry then but that was a peak year the band as well. However from what I have heard form 72 and 73 those years are pretty good too. Outside of a few radio broadcast bootleg CDs and one release from 72 and two from 73 there is not much material from those years out there.

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I still will listen to Lovelight, but my initial reaction is always...uhh.

I listen for the jams

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...CD back in stock at Dead.net store! Ha that was quick lol 🙏❤️😎

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... I’m playing ‘ Ladies & Gentlemen’ The Grateful Dead - Fillmore East NY April 1971!
Love this release , CD 1 ‘Good Lovin’ is primo Pigpen version, excelent add lib and the band is on fire! 🙏❤️🤠

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I'd bet a dollar a doughnut (there's a phrase that needs updating, time to raise pinky to lip), but I JUST got confirmation of the cancellation of my mistaken second order. So the "system" worked for me, but maybe this means if you order two of something by mistake (or otherwise), you can cancel your order and it will be returned to the 'general' pool of availability, vs if you offered to the boards first. This would limit a limited thing to maybe(?) a group of people who wait everyday for such a thing. Or not, obviously more 'heads' out there, then there are here and they deserve an equal shot at the returned item.

sorry for the interruption

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Beatles for Sale - Beatles
Vancouver 6/22/73 - Grateful Dead
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis, been too long since my last listen, cool album.
Pet Sounds (mono) - Beach Boys, a classic album from start to finish, but Caroline No really does it for me.

Currently revisiting Electric Larryland by the Butthole Surfers, an album with some weird and cool stuff, especially Pepper at high volumes.

I don't mind the sun sometimes
The images it shows
I can taste you on my lips
And smell you in my clothes
Cinnamon and sugary
And softly spoken lies
You never know just how to look
Through other peoples eyes

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some goooooood psychedelia

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Why would a sold out aoxo. cd be a positive sign for the Dead and the fans?

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being sold out means that 50 years after its release, this ol' band's material still has legs.

long live the GD!

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Makes sense. Also, Crosby,stills and nash still sell over a million albums a year. Now that's staying power! P.S not including newer albums.

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I don't know. Oh! 4/8/72.

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The last one listened too.. of course. 11/8/69, Fillmore Auditorium.

Dark Star
The Other One
Dark Star
Uncle John's Band Jam
Dark Star
St. Stephen
The Eleven
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)
Feedback
And We Bid You Goodnight

Holy Cow.. I was exhausted just from the totality of what transpired during my morning bike ride.. Not to mention what happened in the afternoon.

While listening to it.. I wondered... when was the first time they went into The Other One without the Cryptical.. without doing That's It For The Other One? If nobody knows it offhand I might have to figure it out.

Going into The Other One, especially Dark Star > The Other One makes a powerful statement. Powerful indeed.

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Driving home from work. Spent the whole day working on a dispute letter, 12 pages, to avoid paying for services I didn't order. These motherfuckers have been chasing me down for 4 years, from one collection agency to the next. Fuck them fuck them fuck them.

Jimbo I'm going to go with the Academy Music run in March of 72. I'm almost positive they didn't play it on any of the other ones there, I know they played it late into December '71on Dave's Picks 22 and 26 right?

And now I'm going back to May 24th 1972, me and my uncle. I need to turn it up to 35 and Listen to Jerry rip the shit out of this solo again. Let's just hope my EZPass works. Shity fucking day.

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"My friends call me Keithfan you can call me John?" What the hell does that mean? Lol. Sounds like Abbott and Costello or something.

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To state the obvious, if you have one this may be good news-if you don't-then maybe less so. Not referring to Aoxomoxoa, specifically-just things in general.

My last two have been 4/17/72 followed by 4/21/72, after a gap of a month from E72 shows. Excellent in every respect-and possibly the best recorded sound of a Stratocaster not being played by Jimi Hendrix. Or Jeff Beck.

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Furthering our discussion on this monumentally important topic . . . and kind of related to MD Jim's question . . . are there any instances where they went into TOO cold . . . as in they concluded the prior song, stopped playing, and then "BA-DOO-BA-DOO-BA-DOO-DOO-BA-DOO-BAAAAAAAA" straight into a ripping TOO?

They would do that with Dark Stars, and with the full Cryptical - TOO Suite, I just can't think of one where The Other One didn't spawn from another song.

Anyway I love Other Ones, often times more than Dark Stars. Dark Stars really call for a careful, focused listening which isn't always practical. Other Ones I can just rock out to anytime anywhere.

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1. Dave's picks 25- Binghamton
2. Bruce Springsteen - The River
3. Allman Brothers - 6-24-1996 SPAC
4.Daves 27 - Boise
5. Pure Jerry volume 7 - Hampton 1991

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Fuck them 1000x

Everybody comes after a persons money

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Saw that Rocky Erickson of the 13th Floor Elevators died. I always dug the Elevators, served as regular background music during a sustained period of psychedelic wandering.

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Roky!

Thank you for the music, my man.

I know whats on todays playlist.

A raise of the glass the three eyed man

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Really sorry to read of the death of Roky Erickson. "Psychedelic Sounds Of.." and "Easter Everywhere" have been on my regular playlist since I first heard them in 1978. The Elevators have gone down in history, with The Dead, a being pioneers of psychedelic rock-but Roky was a great vocalist in his own right, irrespective of the era that has come to define him. But he was also truly mythic. I only saw him once, in 2007. He mainly played songs from his first solo album, "Five Symbols" with only "You're Gonna Miss Me" cropping up from the Elevators song book. But it was a great gig - all the abuse he suffered-but that voice remained-pure as ever.

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Nothing scary about this, wtf. A few minutes in and everything's sunshine and butterflies.

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Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! That sun should have gone down hours ago!

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As I live and breathe...a Billy Saluga reference here...never would of imagined it...thank Dennis

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... listening to this gem of a show now. Man, I think this would make a great release. Dave, hello? Dave? What about Gainesville? Dave?

Anyone else agree? ;)

Peace

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But Bruce string bean sucks. Sorry

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Ya know, scrolling through my Music Bee, looking at these shows, the FLA 80 run (11/26,28,29) are overall really good and unique shows. Would make a cool 3-show box, if the tapes are usable.

If you haven't checked these shows out, they are all strong. Also, electric versions of a lot of the acoustic tunes from Reckoning... electric Deep Elem? Yep, it's awesome. The Sportatorium show has a Cold Rain 2nd set opener, the Lakeland has a Stranger, To Lay Me Down 2nd set opening combo,... and then, there is Gainesville....

Anyway, these are some really great fall of 80 shows, worthy of recognition. Let's just hope the tapes are good. If not, there are good to better than decent AUDs of all 3.

Rock on, and happy weekend, DeadLand!

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It’s in the 30 Trips Box

But yeah, what about Gainesville?

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Otis my man! I don't often venture past Dead set and the Grateful Dead go to Nassau... But 1980 is a little bit of a sweet spot so I'm going to check out the Florida shows you recommend, thanks buddy.

Not for the light-hearted, as it is an audience recording, but put on some headphones and don't let anybody interrupt you for a half hour or so, and here's some of that magic similar to the Dick's Picks 16 medley that Jim was talking about yesterday. This is really really really good stuff, it is a tragedy that it's not in the vault. I'm sure this is not news to a lot of you, but I've had the 69/70 bug lately and this one really carried me off. It's definitely one you want to sit down and get in the right mood for if you know what I mean.

6/24/70

Dark Star =>
Attics Of My Life =>
Dark Star, Pt. 2 =>
Sugar Magnolia =>
Dark Star, Pt. 3 =>
St. Stephen

And there's no crime in staying tuned for the China Rider and Uncle John's Band that follows.

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-06-24.124175.cooper.berger.flac16/gd…

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It sounds like you're our authority on The Other One. I like how you're thinking - maybe come out for the second set to a completely dark stage and then just go wild with those rumbling opening bass notes; then crank on some lights when everybody else jumps in. For the Dark Stars it sounds like you need to be in the right frame of mind eh? I've kind of gotten hooked on them myself. I have a playlist that's all Dark Stars. Then I started integrating '72 / '73 Bird Songs and '73 / '74 China Cat Sun Riders. But there's nothing more satisfying in music these days for me than listening to Jerry noodle through Dark Star at high volume. The louder the better. I guess that goes without saying. You must really love DP 18' s The Other One from Feb '78. I'll bet you have a devastating top 10 list.

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Don't forget 11/26/80 Sportatorium - Pembroke Pines, Fl...the same site as DP3 5/22/77. 11/30/80 was DaP8.

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Damn Google Translator - you should see some of the shit this thing comes up with that I do catch and edit. Thanks

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You're welcome…I edited as well. I had to laugh out loud since I had just taken 2 (Dr. prescribed).

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If 11/26/80 & 11/29/80 are in the vault they could be combined with 12/12-14/80 if they're in the vault for a tasty 5 show box…

I think we may see some 4/78 shows as DaPs…when either DaP7 4/24/78 or DaP15 4/22/78 were released I seem to recall DL saying these were ear-marked for a '78 box…I think that box became the July '78 Box Set.

Any thoughts on either?

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