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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    Sure get stoned at night!

    The 30 trips Alligator from The Shrine in 67 is one of my favorite 30 trips moments, yet somehow I never fully engaged on the Caution. Probably my favorite Gator, not counting the one under the seats between rows Double EE & FF at the Academy of Music. I probably play the ladies and gentlemen version the most. I think it's time I hunted down that whole Fillmore East run in good quality. I have some of it, like the 26th with its Dark Star.

    And with regard to the Dead Hand in Hamburg anniversary today, I don't know where I was getting off not mentioning Big Boss Man. Probably my favorite short Pigpen Song from the tour. Hindsight is 50/50, but I think it would have been cool if pigpen have played a few less good Lovins, and mixed in some smokestack lightning and good morning little school girls. Not to mention an alligator or two.

    Jimbo, love the reference to The Blues Brothers. I just watched they're warm up set for the closing of winterland on YouTube. Lightning in a bottle. Also came across a picture of Donna sitting with Belushi. Good Times. Let's get that Wayback machine and get directly involved.

    Anybody get a shipping notice for Dave's Picks 30 yet?

  • JimInMD
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    My absolute favorite moment from 30 trips.. and as I have written here several times, I blew out the speakers in my car on that one. For me, it was an epiphany moment.. I was left wordless and slack jawed.

    Nitecat.. except for the last song, your last five was entirely GD. Glad I am not the only one.

    Let the good times roll.. great topics on all things music.. We play both kinds.. Country and Western (aka Grateful Dead and everything else).

    Man. that caution. Wowwow stuff.

    Edit: Or perhaps it was The Other One where I blew my speakers.. no bother, that entire show was pure mayhem and simply wonderful (especially played very loud). Plus.. I blew out the rear speakers and dialed it back just so it was as loud as it could be without blowing out he fronts. What a great night and that show set the mood for the road trip. I think I was driving to visit my dad in the hospital if memory serves, six hours each way = 4 shows total. Blown speaker worthy? yes. It certainly eased the pain.

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    Godflesh Merciless

    10/6/80 just wasnt happening :(

  • KeithFan2112
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    Jimbo & Oroborous - great…

    Jimbo & Oroborous - great 1983 / mid-80s commentary. You guys had me flipping through 30 Trips '83 and DP 6 today on the way to the food store. The live Touch Of Grey led me to the great studio version, which I hadn't put on in quite some time. Nice memories.

    Alvarhanso - thanks for the Cautions, I'll check those out this week. Also glad I'm not the only one to notice how similar the BTW and JS intros are.

    Bobby T - great call on the TC Dark Star from the Fillmore East. I love 1971 Dark Stars, and TC brings his trademark organ part to this one. It's followed by my all time favorite St. Stephen (Bobby is exceptional on the outro jam). I like putting The Eleven from Two From the Vault after that Dark Star / St. Stephen combo. The drums go together almost seamlessly on the transition. I can't wait for that whole Fillmore run to be released. I really enjoy Ladies & Gentlemen, but I don't have great soundboards of the entire run.

    Nitecat - "I repeated the best stuff twice" - great quote, and the reason it's taking me so long to get through the E72 steamer trunk.

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    Caution!

    My favorite is the one from the Shrine 11/10/67. When I got the 30 Trips Box that was my immediate favorite show and has remained so with subsequent listening. The opening clang of Viola Lee sold me, but that Alligator> Caution cemented it. The Greek show from the next year has a great one, too, if brief (funny that we can describe an 11 minute song as brief), and goes into what is probably my favorite Feedback. Maybe it's just the stage announcer's blown mind that gets me on that. The one from Thelma DaP 10 12/10/69 is a good one. For some reason, as fantastically as they play through the Fillmore West shows, the 2 they played that run never blew me away. The bonus disc one is pretty damn fantastic, but you already mentioned that one KF.

    Funny you mention the BTW/JStraw intros; they used to get me every damn time, and still do occasionally. Odd how they had two intros so close together, especially given that Bob would sometimes apologize for playing another song in the the same key as the previous one "at the risk of being repetitive". Ironically, few people would likely have even noticed, though I'm sure playing BTW and JStraw back to back would have been confusing.

    Three more days, though I may be counting chickens early, no shipping notice as yet...

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    DP 5 12/26/79: Great show, I was at this run of five nights at the Oakland Auditorium.
    Spring 1990 4/2/90: I'm almost done listening to these two boxes for the third time. What a tour!
    E72 4/26/72: T>Drums>TOO>Comes a Time> SM !! I've been listening show by show to the trunk for a few months now, so I didn't jump on the anniversary train and go back. The box that keeps on giving.
    DP 31 8/4,5,6/74: This collection took several evenings, I repeated the best stuff twice. Wow that 8/6 'filler' Eyes, Playin>Scarlet>Playin, UJB is a keeper.
    The Rascals Complete Singles collection: These guys dominated the airwaves in the late 60's-awesome songs and playing. People got to be free!

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    Tom Constanten joining in on Dark Star>St Stphen>NFA>GDTRFB>NFA...... Good Hard to Handle, Cryptical>Drums>Other One>Wharf Rat... Overshadowed by the next night, and the prior night you had the Beach Boys. (I am a big fan of Pet Sounds)

    Speaking of special guests, hard to top the Bangles 10/18/88 New Orleans joining on the encore of Aiko and Heaven's Door!!! Another rainy day in Rhode Island.... Bob t

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    Nice review of what it was like seeing The Dead in the mid 80's. There was so little coverage of the band in those years, in England, that I thought they'd split up ! Then in 1987 I saw a bootleg tape for sale in a music paper of a show from that year, and started digging around. And here I am.

  • Oroborous
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    Ahh mid eighties...

    L.M.G.; be well brother, may the four winds be with you!

    Jim, astute analysis as usual. 83 was such a transitional year in many ways, some I don’t think many folks realize.
    Yes JG was starting to really show signs of “health” issues. Musically, it seamed like they were starting to get a little looser, perhaps a little weirder? So because of both variables there was inconsistency. But we liked that go for broke vibe, and occasionally stumble and falling added to the excitement. That’s what I don’t like about 77, it’s too dam tidy, it’s too professional, too clean, I know that sounds nuts, but too me that’s not what the dead were about....don’t get me wrong, I totally get why many consider this the Dead at their best.
    So Brent had meshed for four years at this point, so compared to say 80 or 81 where songs are more short and tight, it seamed to me like they were melting around the edges more.
    They also were going through huge technical changes that I think factor in way more than most would think about.
    Phil was using the new Modulus 6 string and new gear, Weir had new stuff, most importantly they now were using the mighty Ultra Sound Meyers PA and monitors full time.This was awesome but it was definetly a process getting a handle on all this. I think this is why 83 sometimes sounds so funky...they hadn’t used it all enough to 1) collect enough acoustical data from the different venues and 2) totally learned/adjusted technique for this ridiculous, amazing new system/technology. Add to that the whole cassette master thing, and well, yea, sometimes it’s not so hot. On the flip side there are also some awesome matrix tapes from this year....but as Jim says it’s all over the place in 83.
    They also were starting to use the new vari lights full time this year too, and they had switched sides on stage only a year earlier...so much was going on that year, like many of the transitional years, and it showed, for good or for ill.
    Hell, one could argue the whole long trip was a constant transition, with of course certain times being more pronounced I.e., personnel changes, but a whole new P.A. system and monitors cannot be overlooked!
    Like you state, this process seamed to continue, both the good changes and the ahem, bad, through 84 and into 85.
    I recall also feeling like the whole scene was changing too. Like it was all getting bigger and better, but crazy and almost out of control, like that train jumping the tracks....to me 85 was when it sorta peaked. All that process that started in full back in 83 seemed to come to fruition. They were breaking out more psychedelic stuff, and getting weirder. Anyone who was on that 85 summer tour hopefully can relate?
    We went from super laid back scene at10k hockey rinks and half empty sheds to the madness of 2 around the clock days at Toga, then Hershey and Merriweather. Too much of everything was just enough! By 86 they started playing more stadiums, and it all just kept growing. The band, us, the scene, it was nuts, but like all things of hubris and excess it went too far. Throw in a hit record and crowds of uninitiated and by 87 it was over. Not the whole deal but that little wave ala HST in fear in loathing., that to me peaked in 85.
    Yes they could be sloppy and sometimes Jer sounds pretty ruff, but didn’t they always when they were going for it, trying to find the edge? More HST; “you don’t really know the edge unless you go over”....
    And yes we all got too big, and perhaps sometimes outta hand, but wasn’t that part of it? “Too much of everything...”, I don’t know what I’m going for, but I’m gonna go for it for sure”....
    All I’m saying is it was a great time to be in your twenties, on the road, and high with the Dead!
    Until it wasn’t, but luckily they played through it and came out the other side even stronger and better as we all know how great 89 through 90, 91? perhaps into 92? was.
    Sorry to ramble, just in a mood this AM and Jim’s post brought out the old member berries and nostalgia of perhaps the greatest time in my life, sniff, sniff 😢 ok enough, Onward!

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    Mr Heartbreak, I'm pleased you picked up on that reference. Indeed, he deserves better than his ex bandmates have given him in the Press. I was sure Mind-Ledt-Body would get it!

    I'm on to 4/29/72.

    The opening Playing in the Band only has a four minute jam section. I know it took them some time to build up the jam on this one, but I guess I didn't realize how short the actual jam sections are. Well, the last few on the tour stretch out a bit longer. Then of course by '74, they went on for a half hour regularly, and Kreutzmann couldn't remember which huge jam song he was in the middle of (Long Strange Trip quote).

    I've decided I like they 1972 Sugarees best, even if 5/28/77 is my favorite (19 minute, huge solo); but generally speaking, '72 is the year for me on this one. Short and sweet. I think that's the theme on most early Grateful Dead songs for me. In 71 & 72, everybody was still playing guitars that I liked, and all the right backup vocalists we're involved at the right times.

    First UJB of the tour on this show. That's balls. Nine shows in before they play UJB. Then they only played it four more times in Europe. In hindsight I guess they always played this tune sparingly.

    First He's Gone to feature the middle 8 / winds don't blow so strange verse. I think I'll always enjoy Rockin the Rhein's performance the best, even without the middle 8. My dog has no nose... in any event, I think it took them until summer to really get that part well oiled. Right around Berkeley.

    Starting with the Dusseldorf show on 4/24, they changed up the intro to Black-Throated Wind, from a little drum roll thingy to a guitar strum thingy that sounds almost identical to Jack Straw. When I first got into the Dead, I couldn't tell the difference until Jerry either went into the BTW riff or the Jack Straw improv fill. And I used to think, man, how do they keep from getting mixed up when they're playing it live? The answer is they didn't. This is the one they mixed up. Jerry plays the Jack Straw fill and Bobby sings the BTW verse. Jerry doesn't play the BTW riff until the second verse. I always get a kick out of this, thinking they probably figured nobody would ever notice. Little did they know their legend would overtake their anonymity.

    And of course it's Dark Star night. Lots of cacophony on this one - Probably not one of my favorites. They hit the Feeling Groovey riff early, but leave it behind pretty quickly. They hit the main Dark Star theme at the halfway mark. Jerry throws in a little Caution riffing somewhere around 23 minutes. Keith is audible at times. How I would love to interview every last one of them while listening to these ancient Dark Stars.

    Caution does eventually appear for one of only five appearances, if my memory serves me. I'm trying to think if these are the only ones to feature Keith, before Pigpen died. In any case, I like the piano and organ duo, despite Keith's being mixed low or not at all. I lean towards the Europe 72 Cautions, but I admit I don't know the early ones nearly as well. Except for the 30 minute romp from the FW bonus disc. Any great Cautions you guys want to throw them away, I'll be sure to listen to them soon. Thank you. Bomp>Bomp>BOMMMB!

    China Rider - always welcome in a set list. They didn't play it quite as long on the Europe 72 tour, but it was about as tight as can be, and the Rider vocals we're stunning every time.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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...Keithfan my friend, hope all is well. How about the performance from 10/26/71 Rochester NY, sequence- ‘Truck’n >>Drums>>’The Other One’. I think it’s a great performance!
“This is something new” the band tells the crowd of fans at ‘The Palestra’ after finishing a Primo performance of ‘ Comes A Time’ and then the dead jump into ‘One More Saturday Night’! Oh yeah, play it loud!!! Primo Show all around really in my Dead Head Opinion lol ha ha 🙏❤️😎take care everyone. God bless.
...Almost forgot about 4/29/77 , a Sweet version of ‘Sugaree’, ‘Scarlet Begonias’ & ‘Going Down the Road’ feeling bad! Love’n it all! Smile Smile Smile!

...Keithfan, I also enjoy the 7/21/72 performance in Seattle. PRIMO ‘Truck’n>>Drums/Bass>>’The Other One’! 😉✌️
Dig the ‘Cumberland Blues’

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Grateful Dead Meet-Up 2019 will feature 6/17/91 from Giants Stadium, and "as a special treat, this extraordinary screening will also feature a reveal of the Grateful Dead's 2019 boxed set, featuring the Dead's legacy manager, archivist and producer David Lemieux."

https://terracetheater.com/movie/grateful-dead-meet-up-2019

https://thelittle.org/event/May19/grateful-dead-meet-2019

...I love the Grateful Dead, all eras, I shit you not. Lol ha ha...but Im really not too excited for this release. Even though it’s from the 48 master recordings( I’m a huge fan of primo high quality audio🙏). And the set list is more than grateful!
I was there. I attended this show and I had a Blast! It was in a grateful time in my life. As I look back, I try to recall every performance / show I attended with a special part some where hidden in thy body & soul. This performance at Giants Stadium I remember like it was yesterday. If I sit or stand still, close my eyes and focus. I’m right back where it all began, boom, it hits close to my heart, maybe that’s why I’m steering away from this release?. It sure brings back a rush of old memories, good & bad, All and All a lovey story about love, death & travel, just think of jack kerouac writing...I know this is going to be a Primo Event for the Band and their Fans!
Long live the ‘good ol Grateful Dead’ !
“There’s Nothen Like a Grateful Dead Concert!”
🙏❤️😎

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The band really tried to make these shows special. The pages going around with Jerry's guitar on them were the bomb.

It's sad that we will never see these two shows released in a box-set with blu-ray video.

Edit: These two were taped for release.

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Yahoo!!!!

It's gonna be fun

and the box set announcement

save yer dollars and cents for that

i predict box will be a bunch of 91 shows

or maybe all Port Chester shows in Bear-quality sound

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As a special treat, this extraordinary screening will also feature a reveal of the Grateful Dead's 2019 boxed set.

I take ‘reveal’ to mean a showing of the Box itself.

So hopefully we get the pre-order announcement soon.
Maybe delivery in August/September, similar to PNW.

Mmmmmmm.......Box Set.........

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Stoltzfus when you said June 3rd, I figured that was the announcement of the box set, not the announcement for the announcement. But that's okay, at least I can relax for a couple months now knowing exactly when the date is. The other guy said he heard something different from you, but clearly he knows not.

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Ha, false prophet. No time to copy dead.net description. Exile you crack me up.

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Face melter

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I might be mistaken but I think they used the film event to do a box set reveal last year but I’m pretty sure we all knew the details of the release prior to the film. Right??

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I was also kind of thinking that's how it went down. August is awfully late for the reveal. Even 30 Trips was early as June for a Sept release.

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I am not sure if I have listened to this show or not.. but I am quite sure I have not seen in on a big screen.

This is good news.. I enjoy the Bruce year (+).

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...Daves Picks#31 Release is at the end of July 2019...🙏❤️😎

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....and agree to stop the false prophet digs. Life's too short.
I'm also going to jump in and say that the 10.9.80 acoustic set at the Warfield is good, but the 10.10.80 acoustic set is grate!
I haven't been to a MUATU event yet....that is going to change this year.
48 tracks? I'm guessing track 34 is picking up Phil's farts.

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I listen to 12/6/71 from time to time still. Just noticed Pigpen only sang three songs that night. None in the 2nd set. Must have been feeling shitty. I like this show.

This is a fantastic show. One of the only ones they ever opened with Eyes of the World, I believe. And certainly the Bruce factor out of the gate is Immortal. They weave in and out of Dark Star the entire show but never actually go all the way. Great interplay and I can't wait for 48 tracks. Wow.

And of course, we've probably seen at least the Eyes of the World and Saint of Circumstance featured on the "In-Concert" series that was briefly on network television in the 1990s where those clips were featured and I happened to be able to record it on VHS at the time. I then found a way to transfer that to cassette tape and from there it eventually made its way to a CD.

Then I finally found archive.org. The rest is history as they say.

https://archive.org/details/gd1991-06-17.137545.sbd.miller.flac24

Sixtus

....I like it as well. It was in my last last five. I already have a new last three. The latest last five report will land within two hours. Give or take twenty minutes.

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That this years MUATM's will be part of their new YouTube streaming concept. So the question is.. Free, you have put up with commercials or Subscription, or a hybrid.

I'm honestly surprised they are not going with the Nugs model.. but instead of livestream, you can just buy the stream and watch it whenever you want.

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I also listened to 12/6/71 this past week and it was eons better than I remembered it. With the exception of Weir missing a line in Truckin' ( I'd be disappointed if he didn't), it's a near perfect stroll through their new school tunes, which they had a nice shine on by 12/71. The Other One with Bobby McGee in between into Wharf Rat is gold. Closes out with one of their best UJB (as far as their non-extended Jam renditions go).

The PNW box was announced on June 12, 2018. I bought mine on the first day. They arrived at our homes in early September.
Seems like the dates for this year's box release according to the MUATM announcement will be close to last year. So, we should know something soon. Can't wait. Don't be fooled by the 1991 MUATM date, they won't be dipping into 1991 for awhile.

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I typed Bolo the PRANKSTER all caps

never trust a Prankster

and certainly dont trust me on the box set

I was hoping we _would_ hear today...

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GD 6-4-1995 Shoreline
GD 10-19-1971 Minnesota (Keith's first show. 1st-Tenn. Jed,Jack Straw,Mexicali,Comes A Time,Sat. Night & Ramble On Rose) ...get some
Muddy Waters 5-30-1973 Ebbit's Field~Denver,Co.
S.C.I. 3-20-1998 4th Ave Tavern~Olympia,Wa.
The Stooges~The Stooges (1969) (Oh my..an'a..boohoo...)
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Great Midnight Hour!

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Now the proud owner of a new Rega Saturn cd player-complete with actual cabinet, to place it in,, as opposed to whatever happens to be lying around as has traditionally been the case, I finally gave this a listen. I am well impressed with the sound quality, I have to say. The 3rd cd, as every one has already said, is the one. Maybe the correct playing order is that, followed by the rest of it. I like the first 2cds well enough, though. While I am here, I could share my last 5-apart from the above, they read
Live at Dusseldorf 3/28/79 Steve Hillage
Live in Ohio 4/28/74 King Crimson
The Contact Sessions The Thirteenth Floor Elevators
Power Plant The Golden Dawn
and last but definitely not least, the only recorded evidence of of Snakegrinder and the Shredded Field Mice. On vinyl. Genius.

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I'm glad everyone had their therapeutic purge, now it's time to move on or take it to the PM. Capeesh?

So I'm getting a head start on the Winterland June 1977 Complete Recordings anniversary run. Let me just say I love the Scarlet Fire on here. The beginning is really cool, because they take a while to get into the vocals, so you can just kind of space out and relax for a bit. There's this mesmerizing Jam section towards the end of Scarlet that is really just a thing of its own - never heard them go off quite like this. It's a couple minutes long, and a mellow moment, but a damn fine one. Don't mind the microphone problem on the first verse. Of all the things, it's hard to imagine this box set goes for $400 used on eBay. It does have all the biggies though. The Cornell box doesn't even have a conjoined Estimated Eyes.

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Come on guys and gals let’s stop this bickering . I’m sure the good people of rhino will do what’s best for us all 🤞and deliver some box set news as and when . In the mean time let’s not forget it’s all about fun and enjoying the music we’ve already got ( to be honest I haven’t finished PNW yet !! ) At least you people over the pond have got MUATM and let’s not forget dead & co shows . We've had diddly squat over in limey land since nov 1990 .
P.S . LMG I saw the doors alive cover band in my home town ( St Albans ) last week and they were fantastic - thought of you when they played 5 to 1 😺 .
P.P.S. I’m currently loving dicks picks 19 at the mo . I do love me some 73 dead . 😸😸😸
Be good and be save and as Pete Townshend said at the isle of white in 1970 “ smile you buggers , pretend it’s Christmas “

Double dose

January 2-3, 1970

That's It For the Other One ->
Cosmic Charlie
Uncle John's Band
High Time

Meet up at the movies - looks cool. Would be interesting if daves picks 31 is selected as same show as film. I was just checking out another show from Giants stadium yesterday from June 1993. Nice Candyman

Been rockin out , May 1978 Dicks Picks 25 disc 1 for the last couple weeks. Straight fire. That first disc is near perfect from start to finish.

Peggy-O
Let it Grow -> Deal

Had Dave's Picks 30 spinning over the weekend too.

Box set Winterland March 1977, sign me up

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...I’m grateful to have met so many beautiful people here! Let’s keep the good positive vibes going so we All can ‘Smile Smile Smile’ 😎✌️Have a grateful day everyone, peace be with you all. 🙏

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They only took the wall of sound down because they couldn't get the "odorama" to work. I still have the card from that performance.

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Keith fan made a great suggestion. Move on or take it to the PM. Not because he is any kind of moderator or anyting, but because everyone is tired of your personal feud. So what are you do? You announce you're going to write a short response and then you write a novel. Nobody cares about what you're talking about. Show some respect for the rest of the board and take it to the private forum that you have at your disposal.

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Take it to the p.m. please. Really, you're so full of negative vibes both of you, but I haven't seen a response from exile, which I'm happy for. Someone made a suggestion to p.m. each other, so go ahead and do that. The room is not interested in any of this.

I think if you both want to be stand-up guys and redeem yourselves to the room, you should go back and edit your posts down to one positive sentence and take all of your comments to the p.m. Nobody wants to read this. If you are truly people who stand for the good vibes of the board like you say you are, just remove what you've written. Click edit and write something like Good Day Sunshine. Or smile smile smile. Or primo peggy-o's. But please spare us of all of it and cut / paste to p.m.

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enough with the personal disputes. Take it offline, please. Thank you.
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Hey LMG & EOMS. Your "existential" spat, like all too many before, doesn't belong here. LMG, I just about always enjoy your posts and look forward to reading more in the future. You too, Exile. Doesn't sound like anyone else thinks you need to defend your good names, but if you're passionate about doing so, please take it to PM (as in "PERSONAL/PRIVATE" Messages) where it belongs.

Possibly;
1) more Mickey Toys
2) More Keyboard/Bralove toys
3) They were collecting live tracks for possible release ala Without a Net..
4) some/all of the above.......don’t think the rest were doing anything that different that would of required more tracks? Would think the midi stuff would still source to the mixes via their individual rigs direct or mic’d as usual?
I believe I read somewhere that they used 64 for Built to Last? That’s probably as much as convenience as actually needing that many?

OTIS/J Roddy & the Bidness; tell your boy Billy we really enjoyed, the wife especially as she’s not “one of us” lol, so likes the more straightforward R&R......to me they seemed like a band trying to be as tight and “professional” as possible, you know, trying to “make it” (Not that that’s a bad thing) But the whole time I felt like “what if this guy started ripping up some Zepplin”? You can sometimes really tell who a musicians main influences were, and I’m betting Page was it for your friend?

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mixed blessing

The Other One has like 15 seconds between verses

that rubbery 86 sound

interesting Sugar Magnolia/end of show

The Race Is On

if I were desperate for GD, I would listen again.

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If anyone was at the SPAC show on 6/27/85 (great show by the way, listening to it now for old times sake).

https://archive.org/details/gd85-06-27.sbd.miller.27863.sbeok.flacf

Bobby breaks the tension created when VGuy and KeithFan were dangerously dangling from balcony by reaching deep into his bag of tricks and telling the funniest joke in the world.. developed in WWII as a secret weapon used to end the war. This appears as song 5 on the Miller seed on the archive, "Get Down From The Balcony." tsk tsk boys.

Here is the origin of the joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9UedkCQCg

An now you know the rest of the story.

Midnight Hour > Bertha. Such a strong opener to an under-rated show.. Certainly releasable one day.

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Would love to see an Ark box or even something off the cuff like a Spectrum box set (I grew up a few miles from there) The anticipation is killing me. Super pumped for the MUATM. I only caught about a dozen shows with Jerry and 6/17/91 has always stuck out to me and I have always considered it the best Dead show I saw live. Can't wait to relive it again :)

While we are awaiting the box set announcement, I stumbled upon this

https://www.bullmoose.com/p/30601567/jerry-garcia-band-garcialive-volum…

looking forward to this as well.

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How could I have missed that? Downright crabby, but in a good way.

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