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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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    13 years 4 months ago
    Think people are just wondering...
    ...what percentage of of the first 3200-7200 will get everything promised in pristine condition.It's not a question of speed unless they lay one on us. We should have at least 30 days to visually inspect all items and then one year to inspect the music (skipping, warping, cracked, double siscs with the same label etc.) Who knows, maybe they'll give us UNLIMITED TME. Wouldn't that be kind??
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    13 years 4 months ago
    Take spoon and.....
    Does listening to the whole box set quicker than others make you more of a Deadhead? And if so, should i invest in a stopwatch? Just wondering.
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    13 years 4 months ago
    I don't even care that I
    I don't even care that I don't get the limited edition extras if I can still get all of the music from this tour.
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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Would it be most appropriate for the # 1972 Box Set to be donated to The Grateful Dead Archive at the UC Santa Cruz Libraries, Special Collections & Archives? I'm sure the mechanics of such a donation could be worked out, and that any donation of a spot in line for one of the 7,200 sets for this would be acknowledged ... Thanks, Laser
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#1972 should go to marye for her efforts!!
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I am not sure I can even afford 450-its a lot of great music for sure but never seen this on any box set where ebay is pumping to profit on Dead box set. I have almost every one and would be glad to trade back in my complete recordings for a down payment-lol. OK....so anybody got a code good for a week or so, I will need to convince spouse its for Birthday in Oct. or will be eating dog food w/my dogs! If I cannot use it I will pass it on before it expires, no not sell it, very bad karma IMHO. I remember when all the tapes were free but guess you cannot master them like the 16 track board tapes.....it sounds like some freaking f--king---Groovin' music as in the VW sticker turned dead sticker for Farfeghnugen--the dead slogan beat its ass and shut it down.....u wont be sorry if u send me a code, my posts tell u i am no guy coming here talking about commoditizing the deads least "country years" where do these d--k wads come from, no doubt that is an e-bay guy-no dead head talks like that---go away dude!Peachy "if the Thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!"- The Wheel "Gonna find out something only dead men know" - Silvio Class of Red Rocks '79... Life without the Dead is not life...and so we carry on...
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just sent you a PM...
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They should study this thread in marketing class! announcement>ecstatic joy>nervous energy boils with server over load>system failure>mass hysteria>generally dissatisfying solution proposed>rants/arguments/stupid prices asked for a spot in line/THE SKY HAS FALLEN>and then ...... wow, most folks are getting orders in, happy kind faces return and you can't hardly GIVE AWAY a spot in line! I trust that all you folks who lost your minds now feel the strings of the marketing puppeteir loosening from your arms and some sense and peace returning to your outlook on things. Really folks - this is a happy moment! Bring on the multi-tracks!!!!!
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I have just paid my money for a Full box set - I was lucky enough to be on a standby list. It works out at 330 UK pounds with shipping - a bargain! Thanks again I feel so privileged . I can hardly wait !!! (Is September really 7 months away ?)
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scalpio2k, howdjya make out with your auction? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Just purchased in UKOn February 18th, 2011 hazehead said: I have just paid my money for a Full box set - I was lucky enough to be on a standby list. It works out at 330 UK pounds with shipping - a bargain! Thanks again I feel so privileged . Hi Hazehead, This is just a warning if you are not aware that you still have to pay 20% VAT, plus Customs charges and Royal Mail handling charges before you get your hands on said box. The same applies to me - It's still going to be much less than the £499 an online retailer is intending to charge for the music only edition. Send me a PM & let me know where in the UK you are.
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Used a spare code from a fellow bus rider. Now I just got two emails for ordering the complete box set. PM me if you need a code.
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Dead.Net is a sweet place to go to keep linked in and link into other sites. Then there are so many regular features, special bulletins, announcements and things (Like E72 being announced) Why not have a pole to for all the deadheads who have logged on at least 100 times for the things they would like to see stay (but not limit). Of course, change is the nature of things and will be inevitable but it would be nice to look forward to Taper's Section and Jam Of The Week as regular things to see every week (posted at a certain time and always correct) Don't get me wrong, I'm Grateful as i can be. There are so many cool things to have come and gone, I jut wish tor a little more consistency. Don't get me wrong, nothing too fancy.. Maybe 20 favorite picks. (E72 could go under "Timely Announcements of Special Projects) Just an idea - I see so many people bummed "Jam Of The Week" seems to be going by the wayside, But then again, ~ One man gathers what another man spills"
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I am new (or back )to the board but have been listening to the Dead for 32 years. I bought Europe 72 in 1982 and as is the case for many it changed my life and is the series of shows I return too most often. Saw a bunch of shows in the 80s and then got back on the bus a decade later. If anyone still has a spare code to share and can PM me, I'd be grateful. Thanks.
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Hi gr8fuluk, I also have a box coming to the U.K. and of course you are right to warn hazelhead about additional charges as I think some of the guys haven't factored this in. Any box sets I have purchased previously from Dead.net have come via UPS who seem to charge a standard fee irrespective of cost of box or duty cost. Don't know if this is your experience, but it helps to budget in advance for overall cost. Having said all that any cost is probably going to be worth it!! Where in the UK are you? I'm in Dundee, Scotland.
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Well, it is really a breach of faith and marketing to advertise a limited edition, and then when it sells out, reissue it (this a time without some superfluous stuff). Not illegal but it has a real bad taste. Guess the idea of a "limited edition" was connected to doubts that the release would sell well. It would surely be better if releases were no longer advertised as being "limited". No need to sell based on expectations that will not necessarily be honored.
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Wow, to my amazement, I was sent a code for full box after signing up for the Music Only Edition almost a week after the box supposably sold out. Some kind head floated me a code already and I have secured my box, so I would like to do the same. In order to try and weed out Ebay scammers, first fan to PM telling me the most annoying thing about versions of Playing in the Band from the Europe 72 tour gets the code. Good luck.
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My experience of getting things shipped to Europe by UPS is that they present the package to customs as part of their service. Customs duly levy tax and import duty on the package and give it back to UPS. When they then deliver it you, you have to pay them for the work they did presenting the package to customs. This fee is on top of their original shipping charge. This is how it works in Holland - I doubt that it is different in the UK. On the other hand, parcels shipped by USPS only occasionaly attract the unwanted attention of customs. Typically only packages with a declared value of around $50 or higher have tax and duties levied on them here in Holland. I know that this varies from country to country, as does the amount of tax and duty to be paid. In the case of this high-value (and undoubtedly large-sized) item, it doesn't matter who handles the shipping - on arrival at the customs shed alarm bells will sound. Greggie - I don't understand your complaint. If you consider all the extra stuff that comes with the limited edition to be superfluous, then you should be pleased that you can buy the music-only edition without having to get all the superfluous bits and pieces. With many limited editions, a non-limited stripped-down version is released at the same time so from day one you can choose which you want. In this case the music-only edition was subsequently released due to overwhelming demand. Rhino have steadfastly maintained that they will not make more of the limited edition versions than originally stated. Where is the breach of faith.
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So I have just now, againts better judgements, ordered the CD box of the year ... and I'm thereby 3.479 Swedish Kronor poorer ... that is more than I could afford but I would probably have been sorry for the rest of my life, missing out this opportunity ... I missed the first box released a couple of years ago, the "1969 Fillmore West" box. But it can of course be purchased over the Internet - unopened for about 2.500 dollars and used for about a 1.000 dollars. I guess, since the Europe '72 box, will be released without all the extras, it will not be sold for 5.000 dollars or more in a year or two, but it will probably cost more than 450 dollars ... Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden ------------------------------ My record collection: jazzmicke
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Hi, nice to see that there're swedish deadheads too (dvs jag är också svensk, har också beställt boxen, den kompletta, drog dom pengar fr ditt konto eller står det reserverat? jag beställde för en vecka sedan men fortf står det "reserverat" på mitt konto, antagligen drar dom väl i september) I missed the show in stockholm 1990, but I was in LA and saw the Ratdogs at the Greek theather 2008!
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Pengarna drogs direkt från mitt konto. Det var typ 2.000 mer än jag egentligen hade råd med men man får passa på. Inser dock att man redan har 11 CD-skivor från den aktuella turnén, eller 13 om man räknar bägge exemplaren av Europe '72. Därutöver har jag även ett par konserter på band sedan mitten av 1980-talet. Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden ------------------------------ My record collection: jazzmicke
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I have already secured a box set and was just given a new code to buy another one since I signed up for the music only cd's. Turns out there is plenty of box sets to go around. If anyone wants a box message me. I will be giving the code to whoever lives closest to me- Minneapolis.
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Får kanske hålla oss till engeskan! Have all the conserts from europe 72 but not all on soundboard, live archive had them all a couple of years ago but personally I 'm looking forward for the Bickershaw consert, I have it but not all in soundboard, I saw that you had a great record collection, didn't you have Air, live? I mean Air, a band from 1971 with Tom and Googie Coppola, they made only one record, but i know that there was an band at that time too ( later the french guys took the name "air".Ok any way, nice that there other deadheads in Sweden!
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So we write in English then ... About Air. "My" Air is a free jazz trio who made a couple of albums. The main musician is Henry Threadgill on sax and flute. About Europe '72. I've listened now and then to shows from that period through the Internet Archives but haven't heard them all. I have a DVD from Bickershaw with poor, very poor, footage. Actually it contains the same footage over and over to the music, which is great btw. About Deadheads in Sweden. There's a few of us. I used to have contact with a couple of them but not since Jerry passed away. Today I only have contact with people who happens to like the Dead a lot but not exclusively. About 15-20 years ago I got a phone call from a Deadhead who have known about me for a couple of years but had never been able to locate me. He had talked to Blair Jackson on the phone, or so he said. Blair should have mentioned me as a Deadhead from Växjö but this guy who lived in Värmland (I think it was) thought it sounded like Laxå when pronounced by Blair, so the Swedish guy had searched in that area for me. I thought that was kind of funny ... ;-) Laser: I usually use the Google translator but I'll try nicetranslator too. ;-) Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden ------------------------------ My record collection: jazzmicke
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Hello! I am so impatient to listen to this box, including the first concert of the Dead I saw (May 4, 1972 in Paris) ! This is my favorite tour, and I am very excited! Thanks at all. Alain (Paris, France)
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even if this forum is a dead forum, my "air" is from 1971 and the only lp they made was produced by herbie mann and the bandmembers were ; Googie and tom coppola (she sung as a young laura nyro) and they had a great bassplayer ,john siegler.Ok back to the GD, ofcourse even if you have all the venue from europe 72 it´s great to have the box! I´m really looking forward, by the way, I think that they will withdraw from the cards in september when they ship the boxes, that's what some guys told me!
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I noticed that you (Alain) were at the venue 8 aug 72, how was it, could you "feel" in the music that Pigpen wasn't there, I think his last show with the band was at hollywood bowl 6 june.
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wahlgrenwilson, I'm wrong. I was not at the venue 8 August 1972. I corrected my listing. Sorry.
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Regarding Swedish dead heads. Me and a number of my friends in the Umeå area have ordered the E72 box. Obiviously, in this northern city there is concentration of heads. Still I have some doubts on this mega release. This has been my favorite tour since the mid 90s, but I dont like this EVERYTHING or NOTHING choice. I had prefered to order my favorite shows from E72 rather than the whole bunch (for example, I dont need another Rhino produced Dusseldorf show) Therefore I did not order the box until the other day. Still, it will be a thrill!!Bjorn from Vindeln
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So I was lucky enough to receive a code yesterday from a kind fellow traveler. But I want to make sure: are all the codes for the box set, or are there also codes that are for the more recently announced "music only" edition?
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It feels like a holiday from jailThere's no way in the world out here to fail All out stuff in the car, high hopes for a good clean break from the life we left behind for true love's sake Hey, babe, reach over and give me five Hey, ain't it good to be alive? Don't you get the feeling we've arrived? A hundred and fifty miles from the nearest jive ~Robert Hunter~
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If the Europe '72 entire recordings is "Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set," why are you still charging 450? doesn't make sense...
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Well first of all the only option being given for despatch abroad is UPS Priority. Actually the price quoted (USA to UK) looks pretty good to me compared to the likely cost of sending a packet of this size and weight by normal airmail - and you also get the speed and reliability which goes with a courier service rather than the hit and miss of the postal service. Here in the UK, our postie has a habit of dropping any oversize packets over the side gate and leaving a note thru the letterbox. The Warlocks box was in OK condition despite this treatment but I doubt the Europe box would suivive such a drop! Taxes and import charges are another matter. As our friend from Holland said, importers like UPS will routinely present paperwork to customs for charging and then invoice you for those add-ons incurred, whereas the postal services - certainly here in the UK - are normally not that worried. I've had stuff delivered with import charges stickers attached and yet no attempt has been made to collect them. I suspect that a 450 dollar box will attract the interest of customs whichever way the packet is sent. So I would plan for a nasty invoice from UPS to pop thru your letterbox - if nothing happens then its a bonus! Possibly if the despatch documentation lists the inclusion of a book then this may cause charges to be not levied since printed matter usually does not incurr any import charges or VAT.
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You make the distinction between courier services (such as UPS) who have their own infrastructure, even their own cargo planes and national postal services (such as USPS) who pass the parcel to other national postal services. In this regard, a courier service will always be more reliable. There seems to be a price boundary below which a courier service is just too expensive to be realistic but above which the courier service becomes the cheapest and only realistic option.Ha ha - yes I remember years ago in the UK coming home to find packages thrown into the back garden or left on the front doorstep. Here in Holland the postie goes round the nearby neighbours houses until they find one who is at home, leave the package there and then stick a note through your front door telling you where your package is. Regarding the total cost of this mega-box, I had estimated that the original $450 price tag would eventually grow to about $700 with all the shipping charges, taxes and import duty. Just my estimate, based on my experience of Dutch customs.
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there's no UPS shipping option for this box set only shipping method available to France is USPS priority international I've ask customer service about this: "These international orders are sent through USPS. Unfortunately, no international orders are being sent through UPS." for such a box-set I would like to have a tracking number.
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It seems to me that with the initial crash & people clicking & clicking when ordering that the codes are still being & will continue to sent out & all those on the music only list (box set waiting list) will get box sets for a while yet. I can appreciate that Rhino/Dead.net never thought there's be such on onslaught of orders at the beginning which brought the crash. But a many 'heads must have clicked a lot of times & ended up getting multiple codes with them most expiring & the rest getting on eBay. I also think Rhino/Dead.net would not have decided to extend the run to a music only set as it may not need to be needed for who knows how long & they don't need that kind of inventory.
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My road trip subscription is send to France via UPS rush
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Situation in the UK is that VAT is levied on anty vatable purchases from overseas costing £18 or more - currently around $27 US. This is from customs own web site. This has been pretty much spot on when orering from Deadnet in the past (in the days when most Dick's Picks were available without re mortgaging your house)
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Another forum member was kind enough to gift me a boxed set code, then dead.net sent me a code because I was on the "music-only" list. I have no need for the second code, so PM me if interested in purchasing one of the boxed sets. The code will expire on February 24, 2011 at 11:59 AM PT if unused.
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Yes Christian is right about the only shipping option to Europe being USPS :( I had missread it as being UPS priority. So it looks like we will all have to play the usual game of "Who has got their box yet?" come September - or more likely October given the usual unreliability of Royal Mail. Anyone know what the "Priority Service" part of USPS actually means?
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Regarding shipping outside the US with USPS, on the USPS website I found this page regarding "Priority" and "International" shipping: http://www.usps.com/international/prioritymailinternational.htm More can be found by going to: http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc2_011.htm http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc2_012.htm http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc2_013.htm http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc2_014.htm http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc2_015.htm However the whole thing uses an awful lot of text to impart very little real useful information all well disguised in legal jargon and, naturally, disclaimers. Maybe if you are having trouble sleeping at night you should read this through. On the other hand, you may find it fascinating and enlightening. I didn't.
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From now until September is a long way to go...the baseball didn't start and when the boxes come out it'll be almost over...we haven't seen the 1st of girls in shorts yet...or the 1st flower...so to say the box sets aren't selling is insane...maybe the 1st excitement is over when the 7200 codes went in a few days...maybe people thought their friends might want one so they over ordered...maybe there were capitialists who saw a business opportunity...the music only box set put an end to alot of that, i wouldn't say ever all of it...it wouldn't suprise me if 20,000 ordered this as pre-order...maybe not that many but it wouldn't suprise me...i'm thinking the economy will prevent alot of people who want it to order it, so it would probably be alot higher than my estimation...regardless it's a great group of concerts unparallelled anywhere else in their arsenal...but who really knows what they'll find...they found this after 16 years of not performing as the grateful dead so it's not certain what else they'll find...but i would think other box sets will come out but nothing like this ever again.
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Good morning, I would like to pass on my recent good fortune to other friends in need of a miracle. I was on the list for the "E72 music only" edition and recently received "2" codes for the boxed set edition from Dead.net. I already received a code for the boxed set version from a good samaritan on this site and was able to secure an order, so I don't need either of these two codes. I would like to offer up these codes to two fine Deadheads that would like the coveted E72 boxed set edition. Please PM me with your email address and I'll pass along a sweet miracle. Thanks "Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills" (Hunter, Garcia)
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I know this is off-topic but I'm not sure where else to post it (and after all, it is Dead-related):FREE to a good home: HUGE collection of live Dead tapes, 1500-2000 hours, soundboards and FMs only, emphasis on 1968-1974 but all years pretty well represented, much high quality/low generation. Lovingly assembled over 20+ years, always well maintained. OK, antiquated medium, probably belongs in a museum, but a real treasure for anybody interested in the music. Moving to a smaller house, really no room for it any more (sigh). Will throw in a tape deck for good measure.............. The catch: You have to come get it. In south Florida. Doc Gillespie doceleven@yahoo.com Currently listening to: 5/26/72. Yeah!
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...I'd be halfway to south Florida by now. That's awesome Doc, sorry you're having to give it up.
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192 days until THE FIRST OF SEPTEMBER. If you save $2.34 per day until then you will have paid for the box set. Approximately. Hope TPTB sneak us out some sweet chunks from the shows a little early on that Jam of the Week thing, or maybe the Tapers Corner. Have a good week, freaks!
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Hats off to Doc for parting with his collection! I could never do it. Had a bro of mine sell all his CDs to a record store a few years ago after ripping each one to his HD, super Jazz collection. Some Deadhead will be very glad to receive such a collection. He sent me all his Live Phish CDs, I was glad to get them. Doc, I hope you find a good loving home for your collection, I know it will feel like a part of you has died when it sets it, that it's all gone. You can always come to this site for some great jam 24/7. It is going to be a long time until Sept. Just can't wait to hear Pigpen playing the harmonica on Big Boss man. Peace and happiness to all. Coconut Phil, living Free.
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Question for those of us who are lacking in detailed understanding of 16 track vs. 2 track. So exactly what kind of 16 track recorder were these shows taped on in 72?