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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 13, 2019 - 2:31pm

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daverock

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FW 2/28

I've been quite lucky ordering this. I got it from Amazon UK-ordered it yesterday and it arrived this lunch time. I haven't got the cd box set, so I can't compare the sound, but this vinyl edition sounds superb.

The show, of course, is phenomenal. The first four songs serve as a kind of framework on which the rest of the show is based. As soon as Lovelight starts, you can hear that they have moved up several gears. The drummers lead the way, Phil joins in and then Jerry supplies the pyrotechnics. I prefer Lovelights that are heavy on the jamming, less so on the rapping, and this one, in between the sung introductions and denouement delivers in spades. The intensity continues through the second set Other One which goes into Dark Star-quite a change of pace-it sounds almost incongruous. The two other Dark Stars I have heard from this run seem to develop more organically out of Mountains of the Moon. This Dark Star is quite unique-a completely different flavour from the previous nights-maybe a bit more melancholic, which is odd considering the sound and fury that precedes it.

I haven't played the rest of it yet-but if memory serves me well, the best is yet to come!

Incidentally, I can understand, sort of, why they are not re-releasing the cd box set, having announced that it was limited edition. But it shows a major lack of judgement by my reckoning. Why deprive the general public ( and, more specifically, Daverock) of getting to hear possibly the greatest run of shows by any band...ever? Still, at least the albums are coming out on vinyl-roll on 3/1!
July 13, 2019 - 2:07pm

#82

nappyrags

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@ALVARHANSO

yeah that was the thing... on dead.net, sold out of To Terrapin...enter your email and we will let you know when and if it becomes available, I'm almost 70, I ain't got time to wait so the $30 on ebay was the most reasonable option...others had it for anywhere from $50 to $80!!!...and it was a new still sealed copy, and I managed to slightly tear the cover getting one of the discs out...oy! On my next allowance day I'm getting the Warfield set...
July 13, 2019 - 1:28pm

#83

Angry Jack Straw

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FW 2/28

For what it's worth, our local record store was late getting their allotted shipment. Evidently they've had a lot of difficulty recently with shipments from the warehouse/distributor. Sounds like the problem may not be isolated to just them. They were kind enough to hold a copy for me once it arrived.

Good luck to all.

P.S. This robot nonsense is a bit much. One correct response should be enough.
July 13, 2019 - 12:45pm

#84

alvarhanso

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Re: Nappyrags To Terrapin

Hate to hear you had to buy it on ebay, I got a new copy in slim trifold packaging here at dead.net for I think 20 bucks a couple years ago, would have assumed it was still for sale here as that seemed to be a new pressing. But I checked and it is indeed not currently available. But speaking of that Hartford show and keithfan's comment on multi-part Playings, Hartford has a sweetnPlaying> Terrapin> Drums> Not Fade Away> Wharf Rat> Playing, Tuscaloosa had a similar sequence missing Drums and NFA, and 4/25/77 from 30 Trips features a wonderful Playing> Drums> Wharf> Playing, and, more recently DaP 29 had the Playing> Wheel> Playing from the Swing. I agree on the preference for a good 20+ min self-contained Playing (Donna yell and all), and the NYE 1976 one is one for the books, with a great bass-driven jam, but I can't deny some of those sandwiches are equal to or better than those 3 versions of The Sequence with UJB> Dew> UJB as the middle of the sandwich. 11/10/73 the middle night from Winterland '73 is my favorite of the 3 (the other 2 being 11/17/73 DaP 5, and 3/23/74 DiP 24).

And while I was poking around the dead.net store Warfield was popping up, this time showing available and one went right into my cart. But, don't worry not gojng to be greedy and snap it up, I shall release it.
July 13, 2019 - 12:19pm

#85

alvarhanso

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Barnes & Noble

I add my thanks on mentioning them. I was looking to see if I could get Fillmore West 2/28/69 there to no avail, but did stumble across Shrine 11/10/67 for 62.99, which is the best price I've seen. This FW 2/28 has been a major pain in the ass. I ordered it from a record store, only to have them email me that it was sold out, and they canceled my order. So I went to Amazon, and my shipping went from 7/11 to sometime in September, and the week before, they canceled my Warfield cd, despite the fact I ordered it the day it popped up on Amazon months before. I have put in a purchase through a seller on Amazon but have heard nothing from them, and their website does not show FW 2/28 in their inventory (they do have a lot of harder to find stuff for reasonable prices), so I've emailed them to see if they actually have it, and the shipping date is still 2-3 weeks away. Meanwhile Amazon is now selling the exact one I canceled and claiming 2 day shipping, despite telling me 2 month shipping. I don't understand why this wasn't just the RSD release along with the Warfield. That other record compilation had cool cover art, but terrible song selections. Or why not sell it here at dead.net? Or on Rhino.com?

Edited out the DiP part, because I went back to snatch one, and it's not actually there, it's through an online marketplace and the cost was $50 for an "acceptable" copy that is probably the same condition as mine. But I did also finally see a listing for FW 2/28 there this time, though it said unavailable.
July 13, 2019 - 11:50am

#86

icecrmcnkd

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Pabst

No way man, I got standards.

I was at a party about 15 years ago where the only beer was a keg of Pabst. Horrendous. But I suffered through it and said never again.

Thankfully I can afford microbrew these days.

Oro, and anyone else in CO.
You can now get Bell’s in CO, I suggest you give it a try.
It’s in NV now too Vguy.

http://www.bellsbeer.com
July 13, 2019 - 11:19am

#87

nappyrags

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Thanks to...

whoever it was that mentioned they had gotten a copy of "Reckoning" fairly cheap at B&N...being a member (and having a weekend goodie coupon) I got it for $20.35 with free S&H...sweet...also this past Thursday I drove into Flagstaff for some errands and browsing at a great used bookstore that also carries some music...I had hope to get a Live Jerry on Arista that I had never seen before but passed on the last time I was in town...of course it was gone but I did get a special "Without A Net" set that came in a double cardboard case that has the crazed clowns covers...I picked that up for $8 ...for someone who never cared that much on post '89 shows it holds a warm spot for me...once back then I was forced to hang in a dive bar for almost half a day waiting for a rescue ride...the bar had a new digital jukebox and I was able to play "Without A Net" over and over for fairly cheap...anyone have an idea what that Jerry release would've been? I guess I'll go for the Warfield set next...Also last week I finally picked up a copy of "To Terrapin: Hartford '77" on Ebay...a new sealed copy for $30...got it yesterday and have played a bit while driving into work today...
July 13, 2019 - 10:24am

#88

KeithFan2112

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Playing in the Band

I find the Donna scream on the multi tracks to be much more normally balanced in the mix, and not harsh at all (Veneta & all E72). They don't bother me because they blend in at the right level. But forget about it on the prehiatus two track recordings, especially 1974. Oh well.

I find most of the post-hiatus screams to be way toned down and not a factor. Try live at Cowboy Palace New Year's Eve 1976. Not only is it a post Hiatus multi-track, but it may damn well be the best two drummer Playing in the Band they ever did. And they didn't split it up into multiple parts, which is only acceptable if there is multiple Uncle John's Bands and a Morning Dew in the middle :D

Closing Of Winterland - never loses its luster for me. Outstanding Scarlet-Fire; best ever I Need a Miracle & Stagger Lee; solid '78 Terrapin; Dark Star / 2nd Best Post-hiatus The Othe One / Dark Star part II (short and sweet; great extended Good Lovin' ; From The Heart Of Me; great 19 minute NFA. And I think some folks really dig the Round and Around. Great piano from Keith on stuff like Big River, which in my mind puts to rest any notion that the man lost his chops on account of drugs; I say he simply fell asleep once in awhile, but hey, so did Jerry. It's all Rock 'n Roll baby! Anyway, skills intact. My only criticisms of this show is the same of most post hiatus shows: Bobby's Gibson ES 335/345 are sorely missed, and Donna is over-utilized (don't need her on Wharf rat or Sunshine Daydream, or Ramble On Rose, etc). If you really want around this show out on your digital copy that you keep on your cell phone, add the Shakedown Street from the Egypt show, as it's also derived from a multi-track, so the sound is clean as can be. Oh, and the Playing in the Band is really good.
July 13, 2019 - 10:04am

#89

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

Orobor

Thanks guy,,, I still got a call out to my buddy who burned me a copy years back to see what the deal was. But I will gladly take a copy when you have time and feel like doing it.
July 13, 2019 - 10:02am

#90

Dennis

Joined:
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chuckle for the day

Maybe hits too close for us "not young" deadheads!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgd9hitEAE&feature=youtu.be

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Buttons, and caps, and lines oh my!

And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

Ok you got me started

Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

Ahh..

Forgot about the Uber Sasquatches. They are everywhere.

RIP Jeff Austin

“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

😓

Jeff Austin

What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

C Janes

The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

Carlo

Right on!

Carlo...reminds of that bumper sticker

If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand (insert dead graphic)....I think you will enjoy the rest of my story....stay tuned!

Yonder - 12-13-1999

https://archive.org/details/ymsb1999-12-13.shnf/ymsb1999-12-13d1/ymsb19…

Check out the Morning Dew then Shady Grove

10-4. Oro and Cjanes

10-4 good buddy.

About that 74

I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

If you see the little red rooster

Won't you please drive him home

~ 10.5.84 ~

74 eyes

10 19 74

6 16 74

8 6 74

Berkeley, July 1988

Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

Eyes of the World's

11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

box prediction

Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

Good call Gollum

Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

But Liberace?....

....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

Not too familiar with....

....The Yonder Mountain String Band. Dipping my toe in now. Sad news for sure.

boxo predictionos, etc.

May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

1974 Eyes

9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

In case you were wondering...

...yes, those IPA's were good last night :-/ :-)

P.S. Traffic Lights x4 and Chimneys.

Box set 2019

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

Dead and Company shows

Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

Mbarilla

Check your PM

Box Set?

Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

this time around

I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

Fire!

Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

?

And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

yes, please prevent the destruction of the GD vault

would be a bummer of cosmic proportions if that ish were lost

PTB:

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

on a tape of Mother McCree's, Jerry offers the audience...

a chance for a "boo break" due to unenjoyment.

Let's have a "boo break" for lame-ass co-workers.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dylan, Dead, Stones, fin

First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

MBARILLA

Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

Universal Fire

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

All in the family

In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

Lost Tapes

I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

Dennis

I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

Up In Smoke....

....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

😊😍😁

https://youtu.be/QFhH8sSIvsA

UMG Fire

NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

Last 5

Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
:O)

Shocking photo

Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

Bruh...

As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

Apologies

Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

Re: Wake Up To Find Out

I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

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