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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    Right on,well said!

  • allman
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    posted again for slow dog noodle - USPS not UPS

    I received the shipping email with the tracking number over a week ago. Every time I checked the shipment was going nowhere. The tracking number goes to the UPS website so I copied the tracking number and pasted into the USPS website and it says it should be delivered today. Everyone who is seeing that the UPS tracking as not giving the shipment status try going to the USPS site.

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Favorite team vs. a good game

    Depends on the sport. Ask any lifelong Red Sox fan if they would give up coming back from an 0-3 deficit and beating that team from ny in 2004 for not having to endure generations of disappointment. Not a single one of them would. That is why it was so meaningful.

    As for the sports themselves.

    Squeakball is a joke. I could care less who wins. It is unwatchable.

    Baseball is not far behind. I only watch the post season any more, but even that is becoming less frequent.

    Football? Rapidly losing interest in that as well. Go ask the NO Saints why.

    To me, hockey is (or at least was) the lone remaining sport yet to be defiled. The players, for the most part, are in it for the game and to win the Cup. Not the money. There is no money in hockey. That is why I like it.

    I'll take a good hockey game regardless of the outcome over my team winning every time. I am a Red Wings fan and have no allegiance to the outcome this year. The third period last night was some great hockey. Watched and enjoyed every minute.

    But, the refereeing this post season has really soured me. Taking that goal away last night was egregious. It goes against everything the sport is supposed to stand for. You want to take a goal away because a player who is a 100 feet away and has his back to the play is a bit too slow getting off the ice. Fine. Then take it away. But at least be consistent and give the Avalanche a "too many men" penalty as well. Simpletons.

    The sport has been played for generations where it is accepted that during line changes, the player going onto the ice jumps a fraction or so before his counterpart gets off the ice. Never a problem unless you are involved in the play. He wasn't.

  • Strider 808808
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    The main plaza of El Paso used to have live alligators in the fountain . Thought I would mention something interesting. Still waiting for 30 in back water America. Take some deep breaths , breath in, breath out, on and on.

  • Charlie3
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    I pretty much feel like disc 3 alone is worth the cost of this release. Haven't had a chance to listen to the bonus disc yet, and my initial listens of discs 1 and 2 were pleasant but distracted. Currently giving disc 3 a second listen and digging this Dark Star a lot, particularly when they launch into the jam of Soulful Strut starting about 23 minutes into the Dark Star. I know that a lot of people refer to this recurring jam as the Tighten Up jam, but if you compare it to Soulful Strut by Young-Holt Unlimited I think you'll hear the similarities, particularly the melody, whereas it does not sound like Tighten Up by Archie Bell and the Drells. The example in the 10/31/71 Jam after Dark Star is strikingly similar to Soulful Strut and is probably the best version to hear the similarities.

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    I just finished up the second Paris show and Bickershaw.

    Bickershaw is a fantastic show. Everyone knows about the great Dark Star into The Other One. Everyone knows about the great Lovelight . Check out the Rider, BTW, and the PITB. Of course they're all great on this tour, but this show features a snapier Garcia on those three tracks. Black-Throated Wind - did it ever sound better than Europe 72? Keith is very audible throughout most of the show too, which is tragically not the case for many on this tour. Don't get me started on the engineering...

    Butch - yeah, didn't you read the story I posted about emailing him for the tracklist of the bonus disc? We tight :D. No, but seriously, he had nothing to do with it and I've never met him. The RFK thing was something that I did to let him know that all of us message "Board Heads" would gobble up a 1973 RFK two show mini box. He was gracious enough to reply to me ( I say gracious, because I imagine he has more work to do on a day-to-day basis then I can even imagine; so for him to take the time to reply to it was a gesture that I think goes beyond his call of duty). In any event, his reply about the RFK possibility was one that he preferred I kept between us, so I did. He was going to give us a shout out on the next Seaside chat, but I think he forgot.

    Darkstar - apology accepted, no worries. Sometimes things tldon't come across in writing the way we intend.

    I saw a Golden Gate Park video from 1991 of the Dead playing Touch of Grey. I guess there's a whole video floating around somewhere. That was fun to watch.

    Now I have to somehow fit Buffalo '77 in. Take two hundred and seventy-six, you know this used to be fun...

  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    I too am in tracking purgatory. Really like to hear this one but I guess in the meantime i'll have to keep playing Electirc on the Eel and Zorn's Salem 1692. Maybe UPS just wants to make sure everything is just exactly perfect with the shipment.

  • Oroborous
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    1/3/70; only superficial listen so far but besides that amazing disc three, I’m with the 1/3 crowd. Perhaps my reference point was more in order for 1/3, but overall it does seem to be a bit tighter etc. Also think perhaps there’s a little more energy from 1/3s first show versus 1/2...... of course all that is splitting hairs as both have their yin/yang, and so far none of it can compare with that monster Dark Star and all of disc three. (Had to check that out again!)
    Imho that was more than worth the $25 bucks right there!
    And like Jim says, it’s a great snapshot of GD history and though perhaps there is more sloppy stuff on here than normal for a Dave’s, it is interesting to experience them figuring things out. Perhaps not unlike the first Estimated and Terrapin from the last release. Those obviously were a little farther along and the band was hitting a new stride then, but same idea. I’m sure the stuff they started on later in the year will be even more raw and unpolished and with less of the monster jams, but one could argue that 72 wouldn’t have been so great without this transitional period?

    AVS; we’ll they came to play but you can’t beat the cosmic forces of sports, or the refs.....I’m not that invested in it, hell not that into any sports anymore, like A.J.S., or cone Kid?, says it’s not worth it, and this is a good example why.....it seems to me that more and more things are not say “fixed,”, but that the various leagues seem to sometimes help certain teams along, which since it’s all about money now is not surprising. From what I saw of the last three Knights games and the whole AVs series it does seem like their a tad pro Sharks....and yes that NO GOAL still is hard to swallow even after all these years. There is no way the Sharks should of made it out of round one, even without the “call”!
    I watched money ruin my precious childhood love for Baseball, the NFL is a fucking joke now, and Hockey is following the same path, sigh.......but that’s why then and now I always felt like you won with the Dead, even a meh night was better than most sports!
    WEED; all y’all have gone round most of this, but as someone who has seen so much go on with this issue for many decades now, and who lives in a Green state, I would just like to make a few points....
    - Generally didn’t dig Wrecked’s post, but sorta can relate to the concern about a majority of folks being high all the time. The thing is, the evidence has clearly shown that usage among the general population has not changed, which is what the initial research before legalization suggested. In other words just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean the whole world is using it. Which is good only because;
    - The only real issues that the authorities and the media have reported is the miss use of, especially edibles, usually by out of state tourists who are not properly informed or experienced. This to me is just another case of irresponsible behavior, which IMO is the problem with most things.....it’s no so much the substance (s), it’s wether it’s used responsibly or not. Similar to the whole “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” argument. It’s not the weed, it’s the misuse off. So education, or mentoring like most of us old timers got when starting out is the more logical answer, not locking people up!
    The cool related thing is here, if your outta state, the bud tenders will try to question, suggest, and give guidance, but of course you can lead a horse to water, but......
    The other issue in Colorado, is they left the home grown thing a bit too loose i.e., quantity, so that the black market folks have an easier time with illegal grows and then are transporting it through other non legal states who are going out of their way to find it, then bitching about how much it’s costing their states to fight it. This also has led to a whole profiling situation not unlike being a Deadhead on the road back in the eighties!
    But the biggest problem I see, and perhaps relates to Trainwrecked’s comments, is the ole “careful what you wish for”.
    Meaning, the cops now are going way out of their way to look for illegal use especially with driving etc. They have been in a frantic rush to try to quantify thc in the same unconstitutional methodology they employ for alcohol.
    Don’t get me wrong, there are unfortunately too many people who are not responsible, don’t have enough experience, have acquired no tolerance and/or who’s bodies metabolize these substances differently than most.
    So though I believe there needs to be some criteria, once again, the law is going about it all wrong, and many innocent folks are going to get fucked! But that’s part of what you get when you create for profit government institutions, but I digress, sorry!
    All I’m saying is be careful folks and be safe! Here it is almost the norm now for a search for any traffic stop, probable cause or not. That is one of the shitty consequences of legalization......

  • SteveGold425
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    1/3/70 Bonus Disc....

    Is superb!!!!!!!!!! Non-subscribers need to reassess just based on this one! :) Anyway - I dont know if its blasphemy or not, but aside from the Dark Star and Pig rave-ups on 1/2 Im really enjoying the 1.3 stuff a bit more - the Cryptical- Other One is epic and lush and frenetic and fucking beautiful. They just seem a little more "on" and the ,ix seems more balanced. Agree with some others that Phil's bass always says yes, but sometimes his vocals say "no" and there are a few rough spots with his voice. But isnt that what we love about this band - the humanity of it? The total experience of a Dead show could sometimes be a microcosm of the larger game we all are playing - things move from cringe worthy and unstructured to transcendent and harmonious for a few splendid moments before the entropy takes hold again. But you still gotta be a grateful participant in both high tide and low and keep trying! The ride IS the destination :) That was always the message I got from this band and their music! So Phil's shrieks are, in thier own way, just as welcome as his bass lines rocket launching me into into Never ever land! :)

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    Bolo hint.....

    His last post earlier included the language " at the Oakland Coliseum Arena, where I spent many, many nights listening to the GOGD."...this seems to hint towards an Oakland Coliseum Box Set, the GOGD played end of the year shows there from 1979-1982, bring it on!!

    My main guess would still be a Warfield Box Set....how long do we have to wait & why are they selling that ridiculous Woodstock Box set on dead.net?!?!

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

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Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

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“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

Read more: https://relix.com/news/detail/in-memoriam-jeff-austin/#ixzz5rt4azryg

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What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

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The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

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Right on!

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I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

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Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

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11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

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Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

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Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

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....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

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May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

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9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

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Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

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Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

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I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

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Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

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And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

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First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

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Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

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In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

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I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

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I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

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....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

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NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
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Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

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As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

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Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

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I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

she refers to Jerry as "their vocalist and lead guitarist" (vocalist...singular...and listed ahead of guitar)

as I have said before: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

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