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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 30, 2019 - 11:28am

#1321

Vguy72

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If you listen close during the Terrapin outro jam....

....into drumz->space, you can hear the crowd and band react to a stunning summer storm that rolled into Vegas and turned the Silver Bowl into a frenzied beast of electric energy....
https://archive.org/details/gd92-05-30.schoeps.ladner.10063.sbeok.shnf/…
This recording features it pretty well. Top five live Dead experiences for me. Heads all empty and i don't care indeed.
May 30, 2019 - 11:25am

#1322

Charlie3

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Geographic References

Strider 88, starting to think you're from the last best place based on your geographic references.
May 30, 2019 - 11:20am

#1323

JimInMD

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Re: Greg as a Blues Singer

I couldn't agree more, L.D.

Just a snipped from Wikipedia on the topic.. I love the just sing your guts out comment by older brother Duane.

Duane felt strongly his brother should be the vocalist of the new group (which effectively eliminated Wynans's position, as Gregg also played keyboards).[19] Gregg left Los Angeles and entered rehearsal on March 26, 1969, when the group was rehearsing Muddy Waters' "Trouble No More"[20] Although Gregg was initially intimidated by the musicians, Duane pressured his brother into "singing [his] guts out."[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band

P.S. KF, who said the riding mower is broken? It's working fine, but it runs on mushroom dust and the mileage is not great.. it only gets a couple years per cap / stem. I think I broke out the original Avatar recently.. but I sort of prefer Peabody and Sherman. Perhaps I am dating myself.
May 30, 2019 - 10:33am

#1324

KeithFan2112

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Right Back Atcha LMG

Five to One baby, One in Five......

Oh by the way, I put out a trivia question last week when Five to One came up for discussion: What two guitar players used Robby Krieger's guitar solo on each of their own two original songs (hint - both guitar players came from groups who have sold millions of records). It was Ace Frehley of KISS and Mike McCready of Pearl Jam. Ace used it on the song She; McCready used it on Alive. Little bit of trivia I picked up over the years. The funny thing is that Mike McCready and Ace became friends many years later. As the story goes, Mike finally got up the nerve to tell Ace he stole his solo, to which Ace blurted, "Aack! Don't sweat it Curly, I lifted that one from Five to One.""

Wait a minute....hold the phone......as I'm writing this completely interesting Paul-is-dead-type of rock trivia piece, I'm realizing there are some odd coincidences at work here:

* The KISS song She is featured on KISS' album "Alive"
* The song Alive contains the lyric "she" - five times......Ladies & Gentlemen - we've come full circle.
May 30, 2019 - 10:26am

#1325

LedDed

Joined:
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Midnight Rider

I dug the Allmans. The first show I saw of them was at Red Rocks with Dickey and Warren Haynes on guitar and Allen Woody on bass. Jaimoe and Butch, and of course, Gregg. The whole time I was pinching myself going, holy shit that's Gregg Allman and Dickey Betts up there.

To my ears Gregg was one of the finest blues singers ever and I'm not going to qualify it by saying "white." The man just oozed soul and I miss that gravelly delivery and world weariness. He was expertly cast as drug dealer Will Gaines in the movie Rush, as well, for those who haven't seen it.

The Derek Trucks/Warren Haynes era was killer, as well. Gregg gradually sobered up and put more energy into his performances. For anyone interested, Berry Oakley Jr., Devon Allman and Duane Betts are now fronting a band:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/allman-betts-band-new-…

Last, I'll just say it's meaningless to compare the Dead with the Allmans. Much overlap, and much difference. All good if you ask me.

\m/
May 30, 2019 - 9:07am

#1326

Lovemygirl

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*Re/ Keithfan

...grateful post! I always enjoy reading your posts/reviews, thank you for sharing my friend!
May 30, 2019 - 8:49am

#1327

KeithFan2112

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Hey Jeff S

Thanks again for the cover artwork. I failed in The Other One mission. I too only took mental notes, and I was harried by the Dave's Picks 30 release. I can however, say without reservation, that the Other Ones from Europe 72 sound nothing like the pair on the new Dave's Picks 30 - but you already knew that ;-)

I think the only one I heard from the month of May was the Paris show on the 3rd. Oh wait, I also listened to Luxembourg. That one was really hot. Probably not news, but the one from Hundred Year Hall was a work of art. I usually have an easier time getting into them when they split them up into multiple parts, but that April 26th performance felt more like a Dark Star when it came to the improv parts.

I remember the opening show had a great one, split into a 19 minute first segment and an 8 minute second segment; the 8 minutes of part 2 is a rock and roll Fest all the way (crank it up) that goes right into Wharf Rat.

I remember the Dead in Denmark on 4/16 was short but awesome. There are two 3 minute segments with Me and My Uncle in between. The first segment is positively unique in that it's little more than Jerry playing the main theme softly while Pigpen adds some cool atmosphere with the B3 and Phil plugs away at the bass. Keith can also be heard playing notes here and there - always a pleasure. Nice transition into Me and My Uncle and then they go full boar Other One for another 3 minutes, where Bobby lays down the verses. The only explanation I can think of for the short performance is that the Truckin' had a 16 minute Jam after it. I guess on stage it was all The Other One to them.

I remember the New Castle show from April 11th is a really good one. The first 15 minutes was a combo of Other One theme music, up-tempo rockin improv, and a nice 5 minute taste of Feeling Groovy. Then they get a little Spacey and atonal, but not for long. Before you know it they're doing "Space Jazz"; I don't know how to explain it other than it sounds like half of them are still in atonal Space mode while the other half pick up a Jazz jam. If I had my musical wits about me, I'd probably say Billy and Phil went Jazz while the remainder stayed lost in Space. But it worked. It was like this gradual emergence from the real outer Space into the atmosphere - pretty bumpy at first, but eventually things smoothed out. Then they finished it off with The Other One reprise and concluding verses. The whole thing rounded out at..... I want to say 25 minutes, and then right into a superb Comes A Time.

And that was one more great thing about this tour. When you listen to it as a whole, yes, there is some repetition, but it's broken up nicely by other elements, like the rarely played Comes a Time, Lovelight, UJB, Dire Wolf, You Win Again, Caution, Sitting on Top, Rockin Pneumonia Hey Bo Diddley, Brown-Eyed Women, etc. And then the longer pieces are full of their own unique moments, which serves to mix it all up and keep things fresh. Great stuff. If Jim ever gets the wayback machine repaired, I'm going to wildly urge them to get St. Stephen, The Eleven, and Bird Song incorporated into a few shows.
May 30, 2019 - 8:46am

#1328

SkullTrip

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Hollywood Bowl

I'll be kickin' it at the Bowl next Tuesday, Mbarilla. Though I don't typically saddle myself with merch (free mind, free hands), this will be my son's first Dead show, so I'm sure he'll want a shirt to sport afterward.

Hit me with a PM and let's chat about it. Maybe I can help you out.
May 30, 2019 - 8:34am

#1329

Strider 808808

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Super interesting history. Right on . Saw Marshall Tucker Band in Missoula back in mid 70s with original lineup . Caldwell brothers were formidable. Toy Caldwell played lead with-out a pick. Tommy Caldwell was a great bass player also. Both gone.
Awesome Allman Brothers story LMGirl!
May 30, 2019 - 8:09am

#1330

Lovemygirl

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*Re/ ABB

... I’m long time fan of the ‘ABB’ as well. The recent ‘Bear’ recordings from the Fillmore East released this past year was a grateful & welcomed release! I don’t listen to them that often any more, I usually get in the mood around late summertime or when around the band would begin their ‘Beacon Run’ ... I remember when the band released their Atlanta Pop Festival performance on CD, man I played that album for months, morning noon & night lol I was captured not only by the bands performance but the “Primo Audio Quality!” I played it proudly and loud...
...I was Dickey Betts guitar roadie for awhile in my younger days! This was around the time he ran in trouble with the law for punching/fighting with his ‘Ol lady’ / wife at the time. We had a gig planed for the next day in Tappan, NY at the long gone ‘Kelly’s’ Pub, now renamed and different owner. We didn’t know if we would make it because of an arrest warrant but in the end the show went on! The Marshall Tucker band Opened for Dickey Betts and they gave the crowd a primo performance! I was in charge of Dickey Betts 6 different guitars, on stage left , just a few feet away from Dickey so I could hand off his different arsenal of instruments and Cold Beer! Very Cold Beer lol if it wasn’t cold enough Dickey would just toss them into the crowd, sometimes unopened and others with a swig missing lol ha ha lol, by mid-set my left was so numb & cold by dig’n deep inside what was a garbage can turned into a giant cooler filled with Budweiser/Coor’s beer & ICE! Lol...Grateful memories from those days. Vassar Clements also came aboard for a ‘Special Treat’ with his infamous fiddle playing, what a concert. I have a soundboard Of this concert in my collection. Haven’t listened to it in ages, I think it’s time to pull it out of hiding and give it a listening after all this talk of ABB , thank you All for your ABB posts, got my nose to itch :) 🙏❤️😎

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Buttons, and caps, and lines oh my!

And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

Ok you got me started

Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

Ahh..

Forgot about the Uber Sasquatches. They are everywhere.

RIP Jeff Austin

“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

😓

Jeff Austin

What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

C Janes

The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

Carlo

Right on!

Carlo...reminds of that bumper sticker

If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand (insert dead graphic)....I think you will enjoy the rest of my story....stay tuned!

Yonder - 12-13-1999

https://archive.org/details/ymsb1999-12-13.shnf/ymsb1999-12-13d1/ymsb19…

Check out the Morning Dew then Shady Grove

10-4. Oro and Cjanes

10-4 good buddy.

About that 74

I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

If you see the little red rooster

Won't you please drive him home

~ 10.5.84 ~

74 eyes

10 19 74

6 16 74

8 6 74

Berkeley, July 1988

Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

Eyes of the World's

11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

box prediction

Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

Good call Gollum

Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

But Liberace?....

....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

Not too familiar with....

....The Yonder Mountain String Band. Dipping my toe in now. Sad news for sure.

boxo predictionos, etc.

May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

1974 Eyes

9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

In case you were wondering...

...yes, those IPA's were good last night :-/ :-)

P.S. Traffic Lights x4 and Chimneys.

Box set 2019

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

Dead and Company shows

Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

Mbarilla

Check your PM

Box Set?

Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

this time around

I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

Fire!

Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

?

And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

yes, please prevent the destruction of the GD vault

would be a bummer of cosmic proportions if that ish were lost

PTB:

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

on a tape of Mother McCree's, Jerry offers the audience...

a chance for a "boo break" due to unenjoyment.

Let's have a "boo break" for lame-ass co-workers.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dylan, Dead, Stones, fin

First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

MBARILLA

Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

Universal Fire

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

All in the family

In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

Lost Tapes

I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

Dennis

I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

Up In Smoke....

....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

😊😍😁

https://youtu.be/QFhH8sSIvsA

UMG Fire

NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
:O)

Shocking photo

Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

Bruh...

As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

Apologies

Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

Re: Wake Up To Find Out

I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

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