Dave's Picks Volume 30: Fillmore East, New York, New York 1/2/70

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 1, 2019 - 3:13pm

#2191

Cousins Of The…

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ICECRMCNKD

That's exactly it, even though I don't watch NHL :-)
May 1, 2019 - 3:04pm

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JimInMD

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Re: Day Tripper

Five times played.. Blossom was especially good in my humble opinion and likely a releasable show.

12/28/84- San Francisco Civic - San Francisco, CA
02/20/85- Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland, CA
03/31/85- Cumberland County Civic Center - Portland, ME
06/25/85- Blossom Music Center - Cuyahoga Falls, OH
08/24/85- Boreal Ridge Ski Resort - Donner's Summit, CA

Speaking of taking a while to pick up some steam, in the later years sometimes they started strong and ran out of steam..

I didn't catch a Day Tripper. What a fun song.
May 1, 2019 - 2:26pm

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daverock

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Not dud...but less good

From my own limited experience of seeing the band, I would say that there was more of a difference in quality on a nightly basis with them, than with other bands I have seen a lot. Going off the only run I saw them play, in London 1990, the first night, 10/30, was great. It was very exciting to actually see them after all the tapes I had heard and books I had read. I was right up at the front of the stage, and it was hard to believe that that was actually Jerry Garcia in front of me-within shouting distance as I remember it.

The second night, 31/10, we arrived after it had started, and I could hear the strains of the first song Help On The Way, from outside the hall. Even from there, it seemed clear that they were playing way better than they had the night before. The energy level was sky high. I had been happy enough the previous night-but they were clearly much more in synch on this night than that one.

The third night...I don't know what went wrong. I was upstairs in the balcony, on Bruce's side of the stage, and his piano playing seemed much, much louder than everything else. The music overall seemed quieter-a bit flat. I'd taken some mushrooms before this one, so you would think I would have been right in the zone-but I wasn't. It was a great set list, too-they played Dark Star-but I felt very outside things. It wasn't a dud, as such, but they didn't seem to play as well as they had on the previous two nights. Or was it me? That goes for many things in life actually-do I like something because of the quality of the "thing" in itself or because of the way I felt when I experienced it?

I liked Deadegads expression of compassion for Bobby Sands. We surely don't have to agree with someone's ideology to feel saddened and moved by their suffering.
May 1, 2019 - 2:17pm

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bob t

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@VGuy

It was one of the summers in the Midwest where it was 90+ everyday and no rain!! Not even close to the temperatures that you are use to!!! bob t
May 1, 2019 - 2:13pm

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nitecat

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Duds

At every Dead show I also felt like I was at the best place on earth. Some shows it took a while for the band to get going.

One obvious 'dud' that has been mentioned before was Boreal Ridge 8/85. I was there. It was advertised as "the highest Grateful Dead Concert in the world" because it was 7,200 feet at a ski resort in the California Sierras. They had big equipment issues that day, and had a hard time getting some juice going. I think it was the only time they played "day tripper".
It was fun, as usual at a Dead Concert, but was a little weak.

I just finished DaP 8 11/30/80 at the Atlanta fox. What a great show.
May 1, 2019 - 10:51am

#2196

alvarhanso

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Anybody receive the Pick or shipping notice?

I'm hoping it will be in my mailbox when I get home, but no shipping notice or anything as yet. I may be so enthused if it's there to immediately rip and listen to the bonus disc and save the Dark Star for the weekend if I can. Probably won't.

If anybody has received, I'm dying to know the bonus disc tracklist. :)

As far as duds, I never got to see the Dead, so I can only go by an auditory exploration. But I've seen several offshoots, mainly Phil and Friends through many iterations, and while I never saw an actual dud, 6/28/06 Walnut Creek was a terrible setlist on paper, but the performance was fantastic. They Love Each Other (in a fantastically upbeat arrangement) was perhaps the highlight, that and Friend of the Devil> Hardest Part (a Ryan Adams original), and one would think that it wasn't a good show based on the paper and saying that. But Phil and his friends, particularly Barry Sless, Larry Campbell and Joan Osborne killed it. It was no 4/20/01, but it was a really good show. But can you imagine a better first Phil show than 4/20/01? 23 min 1st set Wharf Rat, 2nd set sequence of Dark Star> Blues For Allah> Dark Star> Night of 1000 Stars. Still one of the best shows I've seen. Oh wait, the subject was duds... :)
May 1, 2019 - 9:54am

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Vguy72

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bob t said "June 22, 1988 Alpine Valley....Hottest summer ever"

...."seemed to be 90 every day." I'm guessing Bob, that you never saw the Dead at the Silver Bowl in Vegas. 90 degrees was a cool down!
May 1, 2019 - 9:27am

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deadegad

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Duds and perception then and now: Dick's Picks 13, May 6, 1981

I recall a lot of friends -- and this was a large entourage -- saying towards the end of this show that it was well below par. Another friend and myself were of the opinion that it was a great show and we took some lumps for our disagreement: "Oh what the hell do they know: they don't have as many tapes as we do?!?"

And all those years later when it was officially released as Dick's Picks 13 and the LateGreat Dick Latvala wrote in the GD Almanac that this show was "The Big One!" Dick wrote that it was a show that had some unique playing and jamming quite unlike anything they did before or afterward for that matter. My friend and I were obviously right despite The GD Scholars-Idiot-Savants-of-Every-Note-Ever-Played being wrong. I took the high road after its release and never rubbed there nose in it but did feel quitely vindicated.

On a personal note I will add that Bob's dedication of He's Gone to Bobby Sands who died after an extraordinarily long Hunger Strike in The H-Block Prisons was very moving at the time. Likewise, Jerry's singing and playing. Coming from an Irish family and having lived in Ireland too, that was an especially heart-felt and moving moment. There may not be a more painful death than starving to death over a sixty day period of time. Having said that, that does not mean that I condone all actions of The Provisional I.R.A.. The British soldiers who perished, among all of the others, have friends and loved ones left behind too. You have a heart, you know? Similarly, and not to get too political here, but since internet postings are so easily misunderstood, past and present U.S. Administration's actions are equally questionable. That would, however, apply to any and all conflicts.

Despite, and it was what a lot of attendees thought, May 6, 81 was not a "Dud!" It was a show that the band being moved by the news headlines truly delivered on. Dick L could tell and wrote so in the Almanac at the time of its release. And thanks Bobby W. for the dedication of He's Gone for it was a thoughtful gesture even for those who wanted a ballot-box solution to The Troubles. You're a good man Bobby W.
May 1, 2019 - 9:08am

#2199

icecrmcnkd

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Cousins

Maybe it’s like hockey where a team has a great game, but the next night they never really get up to speed until it’s too late. So the next night they come roaring back.

I love 12-26 and 12-28. Not sure if I have listened to 12-27. Think I have video of 12-30.
May 1, 2019 - 8:57am

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Cousins Of The…

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Duds!!

One that sticks out for me is 12/27/79; right in between two of the best shows of the year, this was a letdown. Listening to it on the Archive, it's not that bad, but in person it sounded like Jerry didn't come alive until the post-drums.

John Perry Barlow

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Buttons, and caps, and lines oh my!

And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

Ok you got me started

Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

Ahh..

Forgot about the Uber Sasquatches. They are everywhere.

RIP Jeff Austin

“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

😓

Jeff Austin

What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

C Janes

The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

Carlo

Right on!

Carlo...reminds of that bumper sticker

If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand (insert dead graphic)....I think you will enjoy the rest of my story....stay tuned!

Yonder - 12-13-1999

https://archive.org/details/ymsb1999-12-13.shnf/ymsb1999-12-13d1/ymsb19…

Check out the Morning Dew then Shady Grove

10-4. Oro and Cjanes

10-4 good buddy.

About that 74

I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

If you see the little red rooster

Won't you please drive him home

~ 10.5.84 ~

74 eyes

10 19 74

6 16 74

8 6 74

Berkeley, July 1988

Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

Eyes of the World's

11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

box prediction

Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

Good call Gollum

Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

But Liberace?....

....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

Not too familiar with....

....The Yonder Mountain String Band. Dipping my toe in now. Sad news for sure.

boxo predictionos, etc.

May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

1974 Eyes

9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

In case you were wondering...

...yes, those IPA's were good last night :-/ :-)

P.S. Traffic Lights x4 and Chimneys.

Box set 2019

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

Dead and Company shows

Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

Mbarilla

Check your PM

Box Set?

Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

this time around

I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

Fire!

Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

?

And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

yes, please prevent the destruction of the GD vault

would be a bummer of cosmic proportions if that ish were lost

PTB:

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

on a tape of Mother McCree's, Jerry offers the audience...

a chance for a "boo break" due to unenjoyment.

Let's have a "boo break" for lame-ass co-workers.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dylan, Dead, Stones, fin

First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

MBARILLA

Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

Universal Fire

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

All in the family

In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

Lost Tapes

I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

Dennis

I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

Up In Smoke....

....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

😊😍😁

https://youtu.be/QFhH8sSIvsA

UMG Fire

NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
:O)

Shocking photo

Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

Bruh...

As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

Apologies

Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

Re: Wake Up To Find Out

I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

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