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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    Glad you understood and more so glad you’ve had the pleasure of all those awesome DSs....
    Dont feel bad, I don’t know them all yet well enough to discern one from another either.
    Frankly, I don’t know how all these guys have time 😉 I can usually tell what year something is, possibly even which tour, but unless I’ve spent a lot of time with a individual show, or there’s some obvious tell, I can’t id them like that.

  • mustin321
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    I don't think you sound offensive at all...I know what you are saying about each Dark Star/Other One being unique...it'd be more difficult for a 20-30 minute, basically free-form song to sound the same each time...and I've heard the entire tour multiple times and there's no way I could listen to a random Dark Star from that tour and say, "oh, thats the one from Lille..." or something like that. But I might be able to tell the difference between a 72 Dark Star and 73 Dark Star...on a good day.

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    With the Seinfeld raincoat reference, I was reminded of the lone Grateful Dead reference in a Seinfeld episode. It is tough to make out, but visible to a discerning eye. In the airport pickup episode (George has to pick up Jerry and Elaine at the airport and gets rerouted twice between JFK and La Guardia), Kramer drives and there is a brief shot where the hood is slightly visible and there is clearly a Steal Your Face painted across the hood of Kramer's car. My theory is that Kramer likely wasn't a Deadhead, but picked up the car on the cheap...

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    Couldn't care less about story, dialogue, character development, plot points. Just give me the classic four behemoths battling it out for two hours and my inner child will smile, smile, smile.

    And I love that they've made Mothra into an absolute badass, dive-bombing through the sky ninja-style.

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    Also in this episode was a take on Sing Me Back Home...not sure who was singing it but it was not a GD version. Merle Haggard would be the best guess, I suppose!

    Roger that Mr. Daltrey but will definitely keep this head out of the front row 😊 won’t get fooled again...edibles don’t cut it for me unless they are fungal in nature.

    You tube channel - Dave mentioned subscribing which I did but he also mentioned getting notifications? Does anyone know how to do that?

    Looking forward to the box set...think it will be 80s!

    Make it a Grate weekend Dead People!

    KCJ

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    Buenos Dias Rockeros! Happy Friday.

    MUSTIN321; I can relate to your feelings on E72. When that came out my thoughts were “that’s a lot of scratch for much of the same thing”. I had sorta taken a step back from the comprehensive Dead scene, so spending large chunks on yet more Dead didn’t make sense then......but then I turned into a total Dark Star Freak. Yea, the longer, bigger, and weirder the better! So like you I started to buy the E72 shows ala carte, but unfortunately they sold out. So now I’ve been pissed at my self for not grabbing them all while I could.......not trying to contradict you, just throwing out the idea that those Dark Stars, and Other ones etc, are all very unique and you may want to check them out. I can totally understand not worrying 100% about the rest....so much Dead, so little tile etc.....but you oughta try and check out those monster Jams....”Primo” as our amigo Love My Girl would say! Hopefully this isn’t offensive or didn’t come out wrong, just hoping I can spare others the same grief, and personally, nothing transports me these days like getting my space suit on and firing up a monster DS!

    The Who. Like the Stones, always had sort of a love/hate thing going on...love the amazing music they produced, live sort of hit or miss, but both could be sorta douchey sometimes. The Who particularly turned me off with all their retirement/comeback cash ins, and Pete can be a pompous ass. But fortunately I try and appreciate artists, professionals, even politicians somewhat for what they do at work and not their personal BS. You know “judge yee not....” etc. So that being said, they are still pretty dam good, especially by today’s standards. Too me it’s worth checking them out just for Zac if nothing else. Dude is awesome and can total bring that Moon shit like no other, amazing! And of course Pino’s pedigree speaks for itself. Pete’s Pete, and Daltry’s hanging in there considering his physical issues. If he asked nice, and someone was a douche, then yea, he should tell em to “bugger off mate”
    Besides, if your going through all the motions to go see someone you really dig, wouldn’t you want to get the best performance possible?

    BOX SIZES; you would think at this point they would mostly hit that 3-6 show mark, because besides those Fall 80s shows what else could they really gather enough quality material for a large box. As Jim said you have to wonder if there adding, well not filler, as we appreciate all the shows in some way or another,...like little blessings from the Tape Gods...but some folks even spoke of this with the PNW box last year i.e., that perhaps some of the shows were not equal to others in the box....of course we picky Heads always want the best and have high standards, but it has to be somewhat challenging to overcome all the different variables to produce the actual final product. So to produce a great box with a different theme ala PNW, yea, they might have to slip a B+ or A- show in there sometimes....how many tours were totally A+ consistent throughout? E72, spring 90, Fall/Winter 73, spring/summer 77 and ??
    Like it or not, we do live in a capitalist society, and Rhino isn’t doing all that work just to feed our Jones. So marketability has to factor in too. That’s why I don’t see the whole enchilada happening with the Fall 80 stuff....perhaps a 2 or 3 part over time like they did with spring 90? (If the tapes exist?)
    So it does seem like when you consider all that, that the 3-6 show sweet spot is probably best, and more affordable, especially if/when they get into the later stuff as that was their touring MO.; i.e., 3 show runs. Can you imagine say releasing only two of a three or four night run. For sure some folks would be bummed because the one show they skipped was their personal...(fill in the blank)....hell just consider how some of us felt about which late 71 shows, or the Berkeley 72 shows were picked or not for Dave’s? The bottom line is we’re spolied rotten and though the process may not be perfect, the stuff we get is all pretty dam sweet! I just wish they’d stop the limited addition stuff so folks who can’t pull the trigger for what ever reason can perhaps score stuff later, wether still retail/new or on the secondary market. The PTB don’t seem to have any problems with the pre-sale methodology like the 50th anniversary stuff. So don’t see why they couldn’t do that with boxes. You would think after all these years they have a pretty good idea of how certain things will sell. So set a target number, roll out the pre-sales, then redial in your actual production runs accordingly? Sorry to ramble, just a thought....

    Be well Dead people and have a great weekend!

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    After years of being told it was a great show, I finally started watching it this spring. Paul Giamatti is fantastic. I got through about four episodes and gave up. A little too unrealistic for me and I just had a hard time buying into the plot line. I prefer Silicon Valley. To me it is far more realistic and cutting edge. Very sarcastic and funny as hell. At least until T.J. Miller left the show. A ton of quick barbs. "Our platform does exactly what it says it does. It's not like we're fucking lying, like Theranos."

    The Who is still touring? Can't be. I saw them on their farewell tour back in 1982. Two days after my first Dead show. That was a good weekend.

    I'll give a nod to a Carrier Dome release. At least we could finally hear the AJS from 84 in its full glory. Given a choice though, I would take the summer 85. 6/27 - 7/1. More varied set lists and some rare songs. Down at the Bottom, Superstitious, Keep on Growin, Cryptical, etc. I'm doing this from memory, so I am sure there are more.

    Oro is correct. Saratoga was always a blast. We were at 84 and it rained like hell. The rain continued straight through to the 85 show. It rained in 88 too. Something about that place attracts bad weather. We were fortunate enough to get inside the pavilion. 6/30 gets all the love, but 6/27 was my favorite of the tour. High energy, a long first set and a unique second set. Double encore too if I recall.

    A long, long drive through the night to Hershey. Rain, construction and more rain. Why is it that the highways in PA are perpetually under repair? It has been that way my whole life. Another soaker in Hershey. I know a lot of folks like this show. I don't, but will take it as part of a box. The skies finally parted in MD. Two great shows to end our tour. The more I look back upon it, in my opinion, it was the last great summer tour.

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    Good catch on the Casey Jones played on Billions. But the truly insane part of that episode that would have made KeithFan2112's head explode was when they played the intro to 2112 during the spin class. I feel quite confident that is the first time that has ever happened and am also quite sure Rush never thought that particular piece of music would ever hit a popular tv show. Tom Sawyer, maybe, but 2112? Madness!!!

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    Good morning and happy Friday Heads! May is truly a glorious time for deadheads! There are so many excellent shows played in May over the years...It has been hard for me to stay on top of the listening to May shows in chronological order. Right now I'm enjoying a show from last years box set played in Vancouver on this day in 1974. While I eagerly amount the announcement for the upcoming box set, I would be lying to say I am not in over my head. What are your thoughts on the PNW 73/74 box? There was never much discussion on these shows. Enjoy the day and weekend ahead.

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    Excellent rebuttal of criticism regarding Daltrey and smoke. Nothing against weed, but if the man feels it diminishes his performance, be polite and stop or go somewhere to toke up. I missed Keith Moon but I've seen them with Entwistle, the finest bassist I ever saw perform live.

    Today's Who is outstanding, actually... Ringo's son, Zak Starkey flies around the kit like Moon and Pino Palladino capably fills Entwistle's shoes. After all these years Pete has become a fine rock guitarist. They're trying to sneak in a new song or two but the set list generally kills.

    After the Stones come through town, I'm taking my 8 year old son to see The Who. He's seeing The Who and The Rolling Stones in the same summer. Lucky kid.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

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Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

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“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

Read more: https://relix.com/news/detail/in-memoriam-jeff-austin/#ixzz5rt4azryg

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What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

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The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

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Right on!

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I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

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Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

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11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

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Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

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Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

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....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

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May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

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9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

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Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

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Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

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I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

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Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

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And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

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First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

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Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

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In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

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I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

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I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

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....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

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NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

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Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
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Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

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As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

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Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

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I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

she refers to Jerry as "their vocalist and lead guitarist" (vocalist...singular...and listed ahead of guitar)

as I have said before: I don't listen to the GD for the vocals.

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