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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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April 23, 2019 - 11:24am

#2351

reggiegrady

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yahoo!!!!

yahoo!!!!
April 23, 2019 - 9:40am

#2352

itsburnsy

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Streaming is the Future

For sure streaming is the future. Ironically, my 16 year old daughter the other day said she wanted a record player though, so go figure.

I do iTunes personally, meaning I purchase the albums I want digitally (maybe 2 or 3 a month) and download all my GD CDs using their version of lossless. Works GRATE, using a Bose wireless speaker I play what I want from the laptop and the speaker can follow me from room to room.

If I want something more mindless, I stream the two best public radio stations in the world, KEXP in Seattle and KXCI in Tucson using Alexa. Add to that daily NPR and about 5 podcasts I listen to every week and there is almost too much to listen to these days! It's a good time to be a deadhead.
April 23, 2019 - 9:04am

#2353

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: ConeKid & Recent Comments

Agree. For what it's worth. I think dreading provided some valuable insights, actually all the comments the last two days were quite good and had valid points.

Finished my work for the day, off for a little adventure, a mildly difficult one today, I have butterflies in my stomach just thinking about the first drop.. It's a bastard if you get it wrong. Picking some tunes.. and away I go.

Have a great day all.. Some 69 is probably in order, either for #51, #52 or a box. They have plenty from this year to chose from and the timing is right. Man.. it is a wonderful Spring day in the mountains East.. 68 degrees, a high of 72, beautiful clarity - I can see for miles and miles and sun. Time to put away the skis. :D
April 23, 2019 - 7:39am

#2354

icecrmcnkd

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Video

I like seeing the band at work.

When Long Strange Trip was announced as a streaming movie I posted on this site (the previous version with the non-white background) that I would watch the movie when it came out on Blu-ray. Well, my patience paid off because I bought the Blu-ray and got a bonus disc with video that wasn’t part of the original stream.
And I can watch the video as much as I want without paying any membership fees.

Keep in mind that a lot of the general population who think streaming music is great are also the people who can only listen to 3-minute songs with a catchy beat and lyrics. They would never listen to a live concert, and would run away screaming with their fingers in their ears when they got about 5 minutes into a 30-minute Dark Star.
April 23, 2019 - 6:57am

#2355

bob t

Joined:
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Alpine Valley June 17, 1989

I found it ironic after reading the comments yesterday and Sunday that Sirius would have that show on at noon yesterday. And with all the rain in CT yesterday 95 was a crawl so i got to listen to the whole show... I still get goose bumps when they break out We Bid You Goodnight.. Favorite run of shows that I saw... be good everyone bob t
April 23, 2019 - 6:52am

#2356

stoltzfus

Joined:
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mo' video and getting yer hands on Dave's Picks

MUATM is one way I can sit still and enjoy a show on video. No complaining from family.

re: Dave's Picks: subscribe subscribe subscribe. That's truly the only way to guarantee a copy of each. again, to paraphrase Jim Morrison: "a la carte is dead!"

aaaaaand, you don't have to stress, get to the site, order....

it's all done at one time in November/December, and you have the rest of the year to enjoy the GD (and whatever else you like.)
April 23, 2019 - 6:52am

#2357

Sixtus_

Joined:
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Formats

I have to say, this is one impassioned discussion - and I am not surprised. We are all of the sort who are a bit rabid about our music - this is a relatively rare attribute across humanity one might think, so in this regard it also makes us extra special.

I get all sides of the discussion going on here - from people who like to have hard copies that can't be destroyed by a solar flare, to people who want nothing at all other than a slick box playing the music they love with no strings attached. Then there is everyone in between, ranging from limited access to certain technologies that could take them over a hump to others who have every imaginable setup so they can like their cake in any format and eat it too.

In my opinion, all of it is reasonable and to each their own. Personally, I love the CDs and box sets for the "being able to hold and smell them" aspect. For a long time I was not truly understanding the draw toward streaming. But, a few Christmas's ago we were gifted a Sonos speaker, and now we have 5 of them throughout the house. And this system has grown on me TREMENDOUSLY.

Not only can you link Sirius to Sonos (which we've done - GD radio, 24/7 baby), there are also a bazillion other channels that I've found (Spotify anyone?) where you can literally find every officially released GD show save the Dave's Pick's (I'm talking ALL Dick's picks, all of E'72, the entire Road Trips series, etc.). Furthermore, and this is the real kicker, I can also access the relisten app from Sonos, which of course mirrors the complete archive.org GD show history. So in reality, simply with sonos, I can play any GD show throughout the house (and any format of show, but of course I gravitate toward the C. Millers and Betty's) - hell I could play 5 different GD shows on each speaker if I wanted to. But then of course I have the big boy stereo, which in fact I Have two such setups in two different rooms, so I can spin CDs pretty much anywhere too. And, lately, I've been doing a bit of dipping into You Tube for some GD shows - there is a lot of stuff out there and people have put in the time to match up video (albeit grainy, yes, but I more see it as a historical time capsule) with the best audio source so the end result if fairly satisfying. And to conekid's point, I don't feel I need to be staring at the TV 100% of the time, but if something cool is happening with a tune, you at least can get a visual to go along with it. And I watch You Tube via my XBOX, which is hooked up to my 80-inch TV and big boy stereo #2 so it's not like I'm watching via a laptop with $hitty speakers and 12 inch screen.

Regardless - the takeaway for me is that a Deadhead's listening preference is likely to be as variable as us Deadheads ourselves. And that's not a bad thing at all - if anything its a testament as to the steadfast dedication to LISTENING that will continue to exist and thus ensure this valve of awesomeness never shuts off.

Sixtus
April 23, 2019 - 6:11am

#2358

Dennis

Joined:
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so many things

Jim - yeah,,,, what is it with 10 per page? I usually check in the morning and today I had to back up 3 pages.

Video - never cared for it. I too can only handle a few songs. Hard to just sit on the couch.

8 Tracks,,,, never had one. Installed a shitload of them for people back in the early 70's when everyone wanted Led Zep 2 (in stereo) since most cars only had 6 watt mono am radios. I was the odd ball. I had a cassette recorder I got for Christmas one year, maybe I was 14. When I started driving and had my first car I routed a wire from my dash speaker to under the drivers seat. There it terminated in a 1/4" mini jack, I could plug this into my cassette recorder(mono recorder!!!!) and play tapes. This system also allowed me to turn on the radio and my wire would pump the sound to my mini jack, this I could jack into my cassette RECORDER jack are record songs off the radio. This was in 72 with my 66 Chrysler Newport!

I am also not in favor of this rent, no own world. You can't buy Word no more (right?), now you just rent it. Don't think you can buy any of the Microsoft software anymore, only rent.

On this streaming music front, no interest here. We seem to have every streaming service at work and someone always has some "station" on. They have a world of music available, but if you just let it play, it's the same shit everyday. The other problem (imo) with cloud storage/streaming models (plus the data cost of the downloading) is maybe today it's cheap, but a few years down the road it cost a fortune. Look at your cable bills, started off cheap-ish, now days my bill is 250 a month (cable, landline, internet) Whatever my physical media cost, I have the media. I have it backed up nine ways to Sunday (never understood that expression)

Also in the end, I just plain collect music. I have 16 banker boxes filled with cd's, all the big box sets (dead and others). Have about 15 feet of lp's (and have started buying more, even though I don't have a turntable setup,,,stupid huh?) Got about 400 45's and about 700 78's. It's a stupid trait I have,,,,, most don't understand.

oh yeah, on the streaming front, most of the kids I work with, don't have a tv, a stereo, internet connections, cable,,,etc. They have smart phones with unlimited data plans and use their phones for everything. How they can watch tv on those little screens is beyond me? A chunk use their game platform for internet access, for services like Netflix/hulu. Also most can spend a evening watching youtube stuff. There's a service that's gonna cost money down the road :-)
April 23, 2019 - 6:10am

#2359

kjmcdonagh

Joined:
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Streaming

As I read these posts, I come to the conclusion that I am, in some ways, "that guy." I still love having the CD in my collection, the booklets that come with it, and the music laid out together as the artist intended. I don't see technically how CD's will become obsolete, nor will the sound become degraded over time. For those of us that still enjoy putting the media in, and digging it the way the artists intended, CD's are still cool. I also love all the concert DVD's you can get now, so you can watch and listen!
That said, I also have a large memory card in my phone, which currently has over 500 of these CD's ripped to it, so I can listen to songs, make playlists, pick and artist and shuffle, etc. Lots of ways to tunes via Blue Tooth.
Also, I have SiriusXM in my car, so when driving I can still see whats happening on the Grateful Dead channel and others.
In addition, I use Pandora for streaming. Here I have created my own channels so I can listen to everything from Zappa, to The Dead and other 60's stuff, to New Wave, so guitar virtuoso's. I have channels created for all of these.
So, I am "that guy" that still buys CD's, but I'm also "this guy" that streams, uses Bluetooth from my phone, and can go for Satellite radio as the mood moves me.
My point here, is diversify!!! There are many ways to listen to music, and I love music enough to use them all. Don't limit yourself, use the technology to expand your listening realm, but don't give up on buying CD's just because streaming is available. If you love CD's, as many of us still do, buy them, if you're streaming your way to your favorite tunes, go for it. The point is, you have many ways to access music, and if you love music, this is an awesome time to be alive! Live. Love. Laugh, Listen. Peace!!
April 23, 2019 - 6:05am

#2360

Thin

Joined:
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Charlie 3 re streaming

Man, sounds like you live in a cool place!

All good points. There are still advantages to physical product - they'll linger a long time. My wife's folks still have a VCR player and a wall full of bulky movies. But from a commercial standpoint, DVD/BlueRay's is in a death-spiral.

John Perry Barlow

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Buttons, and caps, and lines oh my!

And a big Sunny Rocky Mnt. how do you do!
Nice to see Wjones and the always entertaining CaseyJ back with us.....
CJ, was worried you some how smuggled in your magic carpet, got turned on to some ultra government top secret veggies, lifting off somewhere between HCS and Dark Star, and decided to fly the length of the Columbia, eventually needing to crash in some uncharted PNW forest, only to be kiddnaped by a secret clan of Uber Sasquatch....”ancient alien theorist say yes!” Who we’re so high, intelligent and kind that we would never hear from the likes of you again, not that there’d be anything wrong with that lol
Couldn’t help but pick up on the less than Bolo type clue about “we weren’t listening to the return bus instructions” ha, bet a few of us here know where that’s going! Lol

BOX: yep, looking like whoever said the announcement was going to be after Dave’s 31 is gonna win the prize...
Prize you say? .......yea,
“Upon your death you will receive divine consciousness.....which is nice”

Ok you got me started

Its not a matter of snoozing and losing

Its about a SHITBRAINED SYSTEM AND LAMENESS ON THE PART OF THE PTB AT THE GORGE.

luckily for you all, i am headed to work...keeping my day job and all that

Have a pleasant day, y'all

Ahh..

Forgot about the Uber Sasquatches. They are everywhere.

RIP Jeff Austin

“My mom let me go to Grateful Dead shows when I was 12 or 13 years old. The things that taught me,” Austin told Relix in 2009. “And I think about these kids – it’s like a sense of community, a different sense of giving and caring – we’re all here together. If you create something, you’ll have this beautiful bubble that will occur.”

😓

Jeff Austin

What a bummer. Heard over the weekend he was in the hospital. These guys got me hooked into bluegrass in 2001-2002 era, and I was lucky to see them a bunch in the early aughts. Jeff was unquestionably the leader of that band. He was a great songwriter and a better singer. Time to put on an old Yonder show.

C Janes

The link to the book was cool. It reminds me of the stories I have had traveling with the dead in the 80's. It is like losing a faithful dog that was always there to make sure you were ok. You never forget those times. Some people may think it's just a concert but it was more then that. Those people would not understand unless they were there.

Carlo

Right on!

Carlo...reminds of that bumper sticker

If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand (insert dead graphic)....I think you will enjoy the rest of my story....stay tuned!

Yonder - 12-13-1999

https://archive.org/details/ymsb1999-12-13.shnf/ymsb1999-12-13d1/ymsb19…

Check out the Morning Dew then Shady Grove

10-4. Oro and Cjanes

10-4 good buddy.

About that 74

I told you all I have been exploring 1974 much more since accepting the sonic issues that go along with it. I'm full blown rampage now, which is ironic considering my last full blown rampage was 1974.

I have also observed there are only about a half-dozen Dark Stars from 74. That is almost a criminal act.

What I don't get is the popularity of DaP 2 Dillon Stadium. Awful audio. Is it simply because it's hard to get that it's so expensive on eBay? The show doesn't sound like anything special to me, maybe the poor audio is not helping. Can we all agree it's one of the worst sounding shows of 74?

And I will be needing rankings of all Eyes of the World from this year. I've come to the conclusion that they are the best ones, but if 73 needs to be included then so be it. Not interested in two drummer Eyes unless it's One from the Vault.

If you see the little red rooster

Won't you please drive him home

~ 10.5.84 ~

74 eyes

10 19 74

6 16 74

8 6 74

Berkeley, July 1988

Greek Theatre, 15, 16, 17 July 1988 just arrived today. It doesn't sound as good as a Normanized Plangent deal, but it sounds pretty good for a radio broadcast. Six discs for a little over thirty dollars.

Slaked my thirst while waiting for the box announcement. Not to mention the announcement is just the dangling of the carrot... the ship date can't be before Fall '19, at this point.

Jerry's vocal on the seldom played "Believe It Or Not," is extremely soulful. I'm just sayin'.

\m/

Eyes of the World's

11/17/73 is my favorite '73 version so far.

Coattail Skeletons 7/19/74 has a Dyno-MITE version.

box prediction

Now I'm thinking it may be the long awaited Boston Ark 69 shows. It's the 50th anniversary of the shows and Bolo said it's "about time those incredible shows were released". Bolo's clues may be hinting at Noah's Ark.
From Bolo's post:
Religious references: "grace of God", "glorious", "soul"
Storm reference: "Kesey's Thunder Machine"
Animal references:
1. "China"-----China CAT
2. "dark side of the moon"-----(pink floyd)-----ANIMALS
3. "Starbucks"------(Moby Dick)-----WHALE
4. "Cheetos"-----(Chester Cheetah)----CHEETAH

Right? Is anyone with me on this?

Good call Gollum

Ark would be cooooool

What does a yellow dog say?

"Ark, man...Ark"

Your avatar is awesome

But Liberace?....

....🤔 I have nothing.
Wait. Liberace tickled the ivories. Tusks are made of ivory. ELEPHANTS!
i still have nothing....

Not too familiar with....

....The Yonder Mountain String Band. Dipping my toe in now. Sad news for sure.

boxo predictionos, etc.

May 77 - Number 3 Palladium April 29-May 4!
1st Leg April '78 Curtis Hixon>Huntington,WV 4-16-1978 What about Sporto?

June '85
OR
June '91

Alaska '80? Msg '79 or '81?

P.S. Mike Edwards, Mr, Pid, dstache, OneMan, ComicBodger, Space Face? I beg you call the tune... :-)\\

Stuart Walker? sherbear? marye? monsieur Joe EVERYONE?

Happy Summer and carpe diem...

Love, Jeff

1974 Eyes

9/11 at Alexandra Palace is a good one. Very long, very spacy. After 1974 they always seemed in too much of a hurry when they played it. The 1976 ones especially-too fast, too short. And that seemed to set the template for the song for ever after.

In case you were wondering...

...yes, those IPA's were good last night :-/ :-)

P.S. Traffic Lights x4 and Chimneys.

Box set 2019

Multi-track from October 1969 or April 1971

Could be something from Fillmore West 1970 acoustic electric

Or more from 1989. Philadelphia Spectrum 3 shows

Dead and Company shows

Hey looking for someone to pick up an extra pin from a couple shows. Anyone going to Bristow , Charlotte , Atlanta or Dallas ? I had plans to go to Bristow , Charlotte and Atlanta but my dog had heart attacks last week. Had to cancel all plans and keep him company

Mbarilla

Check your PM

Box Set?

Hopefully it’s a spectacularly Plangentized offering.

The real worry is Vault safety. Hopefully Warner has a better fire prevention system than Universal Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8517618/universal-music-fir…

High Time to pick up the pace of releases, that way if something does happen in the future hopefully all the good sounding shows will have already been released.

this time around

I probably won't be able to get the box...my wife looks at me strangely

Fire!

Wow, that article is sad. Especially Cheech and chong and rodney dangerfield. The Captain and tennille not so much.

?

And what about Spinal Tap.....I was really hoping they’d rerelease an audiophile version of Smell the Glove!

yes, please prevent the destruction of the GD vault

would be a bummer of cosmic proportions if that ish were lost

PTB:

CAPTCHA sux. I can handle one screen of "find the bikes, ya damn fool", but 6 screens of buses, crosswalks, and festering sores is too much.

It's not like we are trying to hack into Fort Knox or something

on a tape of Mother McCree's, Jerry offers the audience...

a chance for a "boo break" due to unenjoyment.

Let's have a "boo break" for lame-ass co-workers.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dylan, Dead, Stones, fin

First Girl of the North Country since 8/27/14 tonight in Stockholm (also first Can't Wait since 2012).

Not my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFCERlqVPo

Sounding good. The Can't Wait is nice too...sounds like Stayin' Alive, haha. Waiting for a late summer / fall US announcement.

Anyone check out the new Rolling Thunder Revue box and Netflix special?

Gonna catch Dead & Company in ATL this weekend. Saw the Stones last Friday, first and only time for me. Worth it! Amazing that Mick had a valve in his heart replaced two months ago, he was all over the stage non-stop like it was the 70s. I got winded putting on the t-shirt I bought at the show.

MBARILLA

Just saw your post, I can check in Atlanta if you still need it. Thoughts to your dog!!! You are prioritizing correctly.

Universal Fire

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/magazine/universal-music-fire-bands-…

Here's an article I had just read before coming over here, and, sure enough it's already being discussed. I can't believe UMG lost millions of masters and were able to keep it silent for 11 years. The exceedingly long list of artists who were impacted is truly sad. Buddy Holly, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, The Who, Tom Petty, The Carter Family, even a Martin Luther King, Jr speech that was recorded and released. Decca and Chess records. Unbelievable. Who knows what kind of brilliant work lay unreleased and unheard until the conflagration meant they would never be heard.

Also, I remember Dave made a joke on the Hofheinz 11/18/72 release page about not being able to hear Hoyt Axton Explodes without a turntable, though now it may be impossible for them to even think about a re-release as his masters are also thought to have been destroyed. I hope the artists get a massive settlement from UMG, which is worth $33 billion.

All in the family

In All in the family season 6 'Archie, the babysitter'. Gloria hires a babysitter and the babysitters boyfriend who comes over to hang out with her, brings over 2 albums. One is Blues for Allah and the other is the rolling stones. You can see both sides of B.F.A album with jerry and the band and the front pretty clearly. The boyfriend says " I brought over the grateful dead and the Rolling stones" and Archie says "yeah I've heard of those grave diggers before". Good episode.

Lost Tapes

I was shocked to read this, never heard about it. Very sad indeed.

You can never believe they don't have fire system in these places and take a greater value in the stuff they have.

The BBC tossed out a chunk of Doctor Who's cause they needed the storage?

A wild spec I heard years ago on TCM was that 1/2 the movies made before 1950 are GONE.

Dennis

I think the films were watched over by people who don't give a shit. Then you get people like Dave L. And the others who protect their music and concerts with love and respect like they should be treated.

Up In Smoke....

....first I've heard of this as well. 100,000 masters? Oops indeed. Note to selves. Celluloid does not handle heat very well. That's why I keep mine in Montana. On the Canadian border. As Red Foreman would say, "dumbasses!"
One of my favorite TV dads. Up there with Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

😊😍😁

https://youtu.be/QFhH8sSIvsA

UMG Fire

NOT THE ASIA MASTERS!!!!!

But seriously, it's the greatest prog-gone-pop-rock album ever. Credit where it's due - producer Mike Stone pulled that record out of his ass.

I would have said maaaaybe Duke was better, but they crossed the line with Dukes Travels
- that song is as progressive rock as 1980 could possibly sound.

Last 5

Hot Rize~Take It Home
String Cheese 9-3-98 Strawberry Music Fest.,Camp Mather~Yosemite,California
Herbie Hancock~Head Hunters
G.D. 4-14-71 Lewisburg,Pennsylvania
Hot Tuna 71-7-3 Fillmore~San Fran.
:O)

Shocking photo

Listening to the Englishtown half step this morning and towards the end of an absolutely fantastic version was brought to tears during the Rio grande refrain at the thought of that father and daughter picture from earlier this week .
Come on Donald stop being such a bell end and cut these guys some slack , the worlds not just a rich mans playground .

Bruh...

As much as I have issues with the current administration, people come to this lil' area to escape all that.

May God welcome the father and daughter's souls to heaven. I am sincere in that.

Please let this board be a refuge from the ills of the world (wake up to find out that there's lots of ills in the world).

Grateful for life
Dead for life
Grateful Dead promote life
"the Grateful Dead are the antidote to the atom bomb" - Joseph Campbell

Apologies

Sorry , never meant to bring politics onto this site - it’s not even something I’m that bothered about anymore - as we say over here “ same shit different colour “ I guess the music caught up with me .

Re: Wake Up To Find Out

I think you have to at least put 6/18/74 on the list of top performances in the 73/74 period.

I have to say.. although I do like 73/74 versions the most.. it is one of the few songs where the rearrangement did not ruin it for me. There are some true gems post hiatus. I believe it to be one of the better original songs in their cannon. When I used to hear the opening chords at shows, I perked up a bit and paid attention. It rarely disappointed.

ok. Back to your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

(Edit: Or Eyes>China Doll) :D

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