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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Sixtus_
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    re: 6/10/73

    yes yes YES

    And, this is my NameDay show.
    Therefore, it must be released.
    There, I said it.

    .....Dave???

    - Sixtus

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    oh, and 6/10/73

    :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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    Butch Trucks and (not necessarily) old and in the way.

    How sad. I've just had a look in "Midnight Riders", and the quote I referred to isn't sourced, so it could have been made at any time under any circumstances. It occurs during a consideration of the Fillmore East album, 1971, which suggests the comment was contemporaneous-but there is no evidence that it is.

    The other thing is - we all say ill considered things at times. If someone had recorded all the stupid things I have said in my life, and written them down at a later date you would have a book as thick as the Bible.

    There are a few old bands and musicians I see who can still kick out the jams. Jeff Beck is better than ever, and King Crimson were incredible last year when I saw them. Though to be fair, it was also the first time I had seen them. I will be there at the Flamin' Groovies gig next week, followed by Steve Hillage the day after. I am, it is fair to say, a man of my times.

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    Yes, yes, yes to every one of them…If I remember correctly it was the only song played at every E72 show with 'Black Throated Wind' next at 20…not played at Bremen 4/21 & Paris 5/4.

    I think 'Mr. Charlie' along with Sly Stone's 'Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)' are 2 great examples of proto-funk or Pig-Funk in the GD's case (imho).

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    Jim - you got me looking at powwowville. When you listen, do you listen in the disc order of the set or show order. The section you referenced is from one show (on the 2nd disc), the dew is from the 3rd disc, different night. I have them stored in show order. How the dew work in that location?

    Shultzy - I think I agree about ABB and done with them. Not so much them per se, but some acts. I can hear the screw you's already, but I always feel that way about the who. It's like the catalog of live playing isn't thick enough or different enough to warrant drooling. Tom Petty hit me that way, saw him 3 times with years between each and felt I saw the same show :-) (hey tom, 30 fucking years can't you throw an extra note or two in Refugee! :-) There are just groups you feel you've gone to a performance of their greatest hits, versus a performance of great live dynamic musicianship.

    Exception for me - Pink Floyd, shows from that catalog are always incredible sounding, you only need to see 1 show per tour since they are virtually the same every time. But damn, they always sound good!

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    Since Trucks shot himself in the head in front of his wife, I think it safe to assume mental illness/dementia/Alzheimer's played at least a small part in his suicide. Several news articles of the time cite mounting financial debt ($800,000) as a possible motive. Trucks had to sell his condo in Florida and was being hounded by the IRS.

    The 'trash' talk regarding GD in general and BK & MH in particular could also have been the result of mental incapacitation.

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    ....thx Jeff for the reminder and also keeping me honest in this monumental task of cataloging The Other Ones from the E'72 trunk. Invoking said honesty, I am behind - but not for a lack of trying.

    I've made it up to the May 16th/Luxembourg show, but have only been taking 'mental notes'. I can say with fairly definitive certainty that the April 11th/Newcastle Other One is my favorite so far - it gets into a bit of a feelin' groovy jam in there too - but beyond that I have little to offer otherwise, at this exact moment.

    I will say, and I've mentioned it before (as have many others), the consistency of the playing here is what is remarkable, however the fact it is still '72 means the song selection can only go so far and of course each show is fairly similar in this regard save for swapping songs in differing slots. Nonetheless, each time I listen to a show there are things that pop out at me enough to make mental note that "this is a pretty damn fine show".
    I still really like each and every Mister Charlie - it's a fun, punchy tune with loads of personality. Too bad it all but disappeared following this tour....with Pig on the decline, you can't win 'em all.

    Oh...I also enjoyed the history on the mountain jam whoever started that discussion. Pretty cool about the origins of the ABB's take on this (at least as described here). I love the reference Jer makes in the 2/14/68 Alligator to it and I find inspiration in the fact the ABB saw the same. But in the end, I gotta agree with Stoltzie, ABB can't hold a candle to the good ole GD.

    Sixtus

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    In my musical life, before the GD, there was the ABB

    I was at a Wisconsin KMart, 1979, 15 years old, buying an album of my own...deciding between Enlightened Rogues by ABB and Journey. Yes, Journey. One look at the back cover photo, and...

    I chose ABB. later bought Fillmore East, Eat a Peach.

    Three years and one move to California later, I found the GD.

    ABB were ok after that, but nowhere near the GD in my rabidity.

    the ABB camp dissing the GD camp...laaaaaaaaaaaaame. Like a scooter critiquing the space shuttle.

    Like many artists, I'm sure they envied the GD's...loyal fan base.

    I do like ABB guesting on 7/16/72, 7/28/73, and 2/11/70.

    but ABB overall...I'm done with them.

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    Hey Sixtus. We're all pretty spoiled, but I have to ask: Now that the anniversary has passed, any chance of a "Sixtus Over-, Under-, Around-, and Re-view of Other Ones from Europe '72"? You and Keithfan and others started down the path in early April, but there've been lots of distractions since then. I still pull up your Europe '72 Dark Star review regularly. Just wondering. . . ;-)

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    The E72 anniversary project came to a screeching halt at the Lyceum run. Tough to keep up with 4 shows in a row, which is the most they did the entire tour. I've gotten most of 5/23 in (excellent set list, blistering Promised Land - wait, I think I said this last week). Anyway, up to 5/24, but the '69 / '70 bug grabbed me.

    Jimbo, the Big Rock play list is hot. I didn't recall how well-recorded this show was. I also didn't realize until I got into it that these songs are one contiguous piece of music. When I saw it on paper, I knew China Cat & The Eleven were connected, but not the rest; it makes all the difference in the world. Let me first say - extraordinary transitions throughout the entire set. Smooth, smooth, smooth. Excellent Doin' That Rag - I can't say I recall a better version. My new favorite of the era: He Was a Friend of Mine. After hearing the 3/31/69 version of Stoltzie's, and now this one, I'm scratching my head on how they didn't play this song more often. It was always kind of a novelty item for me on the Thelma release, paired with that trippy UJB. Can't wait to queue up the 3rd and final "official" version from the FW Bonus Disc soon. The China Cat transition into The Eleven struck me as "particularly good", as my recollection from the '68 versions is that they go into it with more of a bang than a sneak, after a few measures of Jerry playing the lead intro, followed by the group pounce into The Eleven; but here in the only 1969 China Cat / Eleven that I can think of, Jerry begins the transition with the Eleven lead intro (par for the course so far), but the rest of the band kind of lingers on the China Cat jam a bit longer, before joining in one at a time; then we get the big Eleven pounce. The subtlety here makes for one of those seamless transitions where you don't quite recall how you went from one song to the next (which is precisely why this version stood out for me - one minute I was driving along admiring a good looking lady in a jeep, the next I realized the Eleven had started without me - REWIND). Death Don't Have No Mercy doesn't come up on my play lists too often, mostly I guess, because they didn't play it that much. Every time I hear it though, I think, wow, this is right up there with Zeppelin doing Since I've Been Loving You, and the blues wasn't even Garcia's forte (or T.C.'s for that matter, and he lays down some nice organ chords and fills). Not that I would ever compare the Dead with Zeppelin for sustained Blues prowess LedDed - just saying they sound like they know what they're doing up there ;-) Anyone who's enjoying the new Dave's Picks and wants more of the Magnificent Seven, Jim's unearthed a perfect medley from Disc 2 of Road Trips Vol. 4 No. 1 / Big Rock Pow-Wow '69. And it's only 35 minutes....unless you add the Morning Dew "for good measure" which I advise. The pre-song banter will give you a chuckle.

    With regard to the Butch Trucks / two drummer comment - I think he expressed the limitation for improv that I felt had hit the band after Mickey rejoined in '75. I would be interested to hear if he made the remark before or after Mickey's departure (I assume before, since this is when the two bands were most closely affiliated). There was a spontaneity to the music from '71-'74 that I really enjoy. Even on the shorter numbers, anybody in the band could swing this way or that to change things up a bit. Probably the reason Playing in the Band evolved as it did. Prior to Mickey's leaving, however, his presence made for some powerfully live concert moments (The Eleven I was just talking about not least of all); without him on the early stuff, Primal Dead would not quite have been so primal. We're lucky enough to get the best of both worlds with the archival releases.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

The chords for One of These Days are B and A, and the main chords for The Other One are E and D, so they are similar in being based on just two chords and strong, propulsive basslines (One of These Days featuring two basses, one played by Waters, the other one by Gilmour), but OoTD is just 4/4, where TOO is a weird 6/8 and 4/4 mix; Billy describes it as a 6/8 on top of a 4/4 in Long Strange Trip. Two of my favorite songs by two of my favorite bands. Was super pumped to have seen Waters do OoTD a couple years ago. The BBC one was what first got me into that song, as well as Embryo, which somebody brought up recently as well, and of course, Echoes.

Fall '72 box sounds grate to me!

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Do you have a good copy of San Antonio 11 26 72? My dark star is a decent audience recording but certainly not soundboard quality. That request is good for anyone :D

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Meddle is a great album.

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Thanks Dennis I'll check this one out!

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Have you heard of the live pink floyd tape 'Crackers'?? I have it in my tape collection somewhere. It's good but I forgot what songs are on it. Lost the list. Hollywood bowl bootleg.

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Not ringing a bell. I used to download a bunch of liberated boots on Dimeadozen and Trader's Den, and ended up with a good number of Floyd shows (along with a good sized collection of Who, Tom Waits, Queen, and other less taper friendly bands), but don't remember that particular one. I found a page for it at discogs:
https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-Crackers-Damn-Braces-Bless-Relaxes-T…
Here's a youtube video of the album playing:
https://youtu.be/B0Qw2eidPaY
I know I had some from '72 with the Dark Side performances that usually had an Echoes and OoTD as well, not recalling Hollywood Bowl. I can only imagine what people thought as they got the as yet unreleased full album that would stay on the charts for 16 straight years. The Dead got that privilege as they saw Floyd at Radio City in Spring '73.

Wonder when the next part of the Floyd story comes out in another mammoth box after The Early Years (which I still don't have, but want, just need an extra 500 bucks). My wife didn't kill me over 30 Trips, but I may have to scream careful with that axe if I got that Floyd box, too.

Speaking of box sets: wonder if they really are waiting until MUATM to announce, not just preview the box this year, allowing them more production time without people anxiously waiting on it and awaiting visual evidence of it.

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500 clams? I'll have to check that one out.

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Alvarhanso, check the prices of the individual year sets for the PF Early Years box, most of the six individual sets go for about $35-$40 on amazon, so you can get all of the music content of the Early Years box for about $240 if you buy it that way. I think that you miss out on some ephemera, but I picked up the '69 Dramatis/ation and '72 Obsfuc/ation portions and may pick up a couple more later. I was also wondering what the next box set would be to follow the Early Years one.

Why is it that my access to this dead.net store is denied about half the times I try to get into this dead.net store?
I can easily get dead.net any and all times but have difficulty accessing the store. I wonder if its a bug in my desktop computer as I can access store.dead.net via my phone, but have yet to post comments via my phone or try to post.

Which is basically the reason why I don't post comments as much.
I may not be able to read any replies to this comment anytime soon, but I'll keep on tryin' to log into this store.dead.net.
I still like the old desktop computers versus tablets and "smart" phones, but don't separate me from my phone.

Dave's Picks 31?
Hmmm.
I not going to guess here, but I know for sure that I will love whatever has been selected.

Meddle seemed to me to be the last of their experimental albums, and the last really spacy one. After that, they sounded like they knew what they were doing ! I think Dark Side is a great album, but I hardly ever play it now, and it seems to be coming from a completely different place than the music chronicled on the Early Years. In the mid 70s, everyone seemed to have it, and it marked the beginning of them being a bit more middle of the road. I used to like Wish You Were Here and Animals, but again, I very rarely play them now. And I have never even heard any of the later albums-apart from back ground music at other peoples houses.

The gateway Floyd album for me was Relics, a budget album that came out in the early 70s, comprising of a rag bag of 1960s singles, B sides and oddities. Then I got the current album of the time-Meddle and worked backwards.

Going back to the Dead and this box set-has there been any stated indication that there is even going to be one this year ? I notice last years is still available. They don't exactly fly off the shelves, do they ! They seem eagerly anticipated, looking on here, but only a handful of people actually contribute, so the extent of their appeal may be less wide than we on here would like to think.

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I like the way you think, my gateway Pink Floyd lp was Ummagumma, which got me into the pre Dark Side lp's, I love More and Obscured by Clouds too, but it was Relics that got me into the Piper and Saucer lps that are still two of my favorites. I really like the fact that Nick Mason's new band is playing the pre Dark Side stuff live, how good is that, I know you mentioned you went to one of those shows, how was it?
I agree, Dark Side is great, loved it when it first came out and saw them in concert in 73 and they played it in it's entirety that show, just awesome. But I don't play it anymore either, nor do I listen to those post Dark side lps either, but the pre Dark side, yes, I listen to them still. Good stuff and I guess I will always be a slave to the trippy experimental stuff, just gets me where I want to be.
Had some bootleg Pink Floyd cd's/lp's back in the day, I remember one called "Rhapsody in Pink" that had an awesome Echo's on it and an Embryo, but the sound quality was sub par, which seemed to be a reoccurring theme with Pink Floyd boots. I wish back then they had recorded their shows like the Dead did, wow, to have some 67>72 Floyd live in pristine sound quality would be so nice, especially some early shows with Syd at the helm.
I think we will get a rumor or a leak before the meet up at the movies i.e. the next box, hey Bolo, got any totally ambiguous clues for us? Have never been able to figure any of them out, but it's fun to try.
That's a strange glitch there Born cross-eyed, just weird. The captcha thing is totally out of hand though, so many crosswalks, so many fire hydrants lol.

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check your pm

BTW - JRF check yours also

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Had a great audience tape of this show back in the day. I overlook this show for some reason along with 6/8/74 and I just don't know why!!! Bob t

Happy Anniversary to me!...40 years ago I went to the Portland Speedway to catch the boys play with David Bromberg & McGuinn, Clark & Hillman opening...it was the day after Lowell George died and the 2nd Set was dedicated to him...hot humid light rainy kind of day...the worse part was trying to find my gray VW bug in the mess that was the parking lot after the show and then drive back up into the Cascades where I was living up on Mt Hood...some fun...also I do believe it was my first Brent show...

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Charlie3, I've thought about that, but would miss out on the 45s, and the collector (hoarder, as my wife would say) in me is horrified at the prospect. Same reason I missed out on Europe '72 piecemeal or all music edition. I want the trunk, damnit! I picked up I think 4 of the individual Europe '72 shows. I have all the music for both these boxes, don't have the blu-ray stuff on the Floyd or the 45s, and it's high quality mp3, but, again, I would like the boxes at some point. I also want to grab DaP 1-4. I still have no idea why I didn't subscribe back then, I remember the email announcing it. And I remember the Europe '72 announcement and do know why I didn't get that at the time: by the time I got paid, it had sold out, which I think surprised everyone.

Someday, all these things will be in my collection, along with physical copies of Winterland '77 and Fillmore West '69. Just hope it's not contingent on me winning the lottery. Though, I am going to have the Fillmore run on vinyl for sure, and the next installment comes out in a little over a week...

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Saucerful 4.5 stars
More 4 stars
Obscured 3.75 stars
Europe 71 (labeled as such) 5 stars
Meddle 4.75 stars
Atom Heart 5 stars
Ummagumma 5 stars
Embryo 5 stars
Animals 5 stars

Anything with fewer than five stars has 5 star material on it

So

5 stars for everyone

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Thank you so much.
Check your PM...
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Ummagumma was the third Floyd album I bought. The first two sides, together with Echoes, One of These Days and Interstellar Overdrive formed the basis of my high regard for Pink Floyd back in the day. I have also always loved See Emily Play and Julia Dream. Its a real shame that there aren't more better recordings of Floyd with Syd. Even the ones in the Early Years box set are poor quality sound wise-especially the live show at Stockholm, with Syds vocals completely inaudible.

Maybe the best live recording with Syd is that film clip on television, where there is a snippet of them playing Pow R. Toc H. and then a complete Astronomy Domine. The following interview between the German presenter and Syd and Roger is also unmissable. Especially when he asks why it has to be so loud.

Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets were reassuring loud when I saw them-opening with Interstellar Overdrive, then Astronomy Domine and Lucifer Sam-an incredible adrenalin rush. From then on it was an inspired trip through the early years. The encore was Saucerful of Secrets which went into Point Me At The Sky. Amazing to see a gig like this, in times like these.

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I think Relics was one of the first Pink Floyd albums I ever got, picked it up for See Emily Play which I had heard on the radio. Julia Dream is also cool, but Remember a Day and Paintbox really hit the spot for me. Still sparks a certain mood and series of recollections for me. Still have the record. Really didn't get too curious about other PF stuff till I heard someone playing If from Atom Heart Mother and I was like, what is that. Atom Heart Mother and Obscured by Clouds would be among my favorite PF albums, although I like just about all of them. Might give a different answer as to favorites depending on which I listened to more recently ...

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See live band Greensky Bluegrass

Never heard of em before but wife got tickets to Zootumes this evening

Jammy stuff

GD n Phish flavored bluegrass

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Was thinking about the upcoming 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing and remembered Floyd jammed to it live for the BBC. The footage doesn't seem to exist, but luckily the music was recorded. This was the best sounding source I could find, also, the longest version.

https://youtu.be/_9bx5h0FpCg

Also, I love the early stuff with Syd, the Gilmour early stuff and up to The Wall. Final Cut is where they lost me, and wasn't a huge fan of Division Bell or Momentary Lapse, though Endless River which came out a few years ago was pretty good, almost all instrumental and really showcasing Rick Wright's enormous talent as a keyboardist. He really was the unsung hero in the band. Waters, Gilmour, and Barrett are all brilliant, but they all get their credit for it as well, Wright just played some fantastic keyboards and was a synth pioneer and seems to usually be lost in the conversation. Pretty good singer, too. I love his song Summer '68, it has a delicious groove, and the horns are just fantastic.

I wish the Dead and Floyd had had an opportunity to do a co-bill as they did with The Who. Can you imagine a Dark Star with Gilmour and Wright?

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Definitely agree that Rick Wright tends to get overlooked when talking about Pink Floyd. His playing was essential in creating an atmosphere-especially on their 1960s recordings, it seems to me, but also on the key tracks on Meddle. I didn't realise that he made a significant contribution to Endless River-or that it was primarily instrumental. Sounds quite interesting.

I inadvertently saw Dave Gilmour play at the end of last year, when he joined The Pretty Things on stage for a couple of numbers. I can't remember what songs he played on now, but he was really, really good. I tend to associate him with a mellow, laid back style-and somewhat well rehearsed. But he really kicked out the jams last December.

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...a grateful day to everyone! I started my Monday morning with the 30-minute version of "Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)" that was recorded on June 14, 1968 during the band's debut run of shows at Bill Graham's newly opened Fillmore East in New York, which had the Grateful Dead headlining over the Jeff Beck Group. Many of the band's recordings from 1968 have been lost and what remains is often incorrectly labeled. This performance was included on the ‘Bonus CD’ from the ‘Fillmore West - 1969’ Box Set. Primo! 😉🤠
Playing it loud! I love the mix for this boxset, even after all theses years, the Set , Audio Quality is beautiful ! Just pure beauty...🙏❤️

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Seems like we all bought it for a different song. I got it for Arnold Lane. Someone told me I just had to hear it.

In high school I thought I knew all of the good stuff from Floyd. I had dark side of the moon through the Wall only. I also had heard One of these Days plenty of times on the radio. I assumed everything else was Acid Rock . Then I heard Fearless. That song sounds like classic Floyd to me.

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It's been years since I listened to this one. How did I ever miss this Midnight Hour? This is better than Wilson Pickett, in a Van Halen You Really Got Me is better than the original sort of way.

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What better way to bring in July then with July 1978 the Complete Recordings?

Did this sell out yet? I know people were surprised it took a while to get to that only 1,000 left sign or whatever. But I was thinking that the June Winterland box set from 1977 was available for 5 years. How many of those did they print?

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Truckin ->
Drums ->
The Other One ->
Wharf Rat ->
Me and Bobby McGhee

firing it up today

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a few months ago was playing some 1985 shows, Mr Charlie was lovin it, boppin his head and lickin his lips

Big Railroad BLues
THey LOve Each Other
Sugaree
Cassidy

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Where are we going for 31?
I say 9/6/80

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I'd like to see 12/18/73. Or is it it 12/19? Whichever one isn't DP 1.

All in for 1972 box set

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Phew, what a weekend...
FRIDAY
- 6/27/85 @
- 6/28/85 @
SATURDAY
- 6/26/73
- 6/25/88 1st set plus @
- 6/27/87 @
SUNDAY
6/30/86 2nd @
6/30/85 2nd Boo-yah! @
6/30/88 @
6/30 is personally perhaps one of my biggest days in Deadhistory as I believe I saw more shows on this date than any other; 4; 85, 86, 88, and 95. Not a bad one in the bunch, even 95 was good, at least as far as that tour etc...and 85 and 86 were Awesome!
Bunch of good ones coming up in July...

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I love the Pink Floyd discussion. I several questions/comments on that:

First the Early years- I have been back and forth on picking up a few of the individual boxes. The 1972 box has the live at Pompeii CD which I think is a good one to have so I have considered that box set. I already have the DVD for live at Pompeii but the CD and other material in that ox looks cool. I guess I need some recommendations as to other that may good to get. Someone also mentioned the 1969 box as being a good one. I can’t remember the titles each box was given so I am just going by the years.

Second, just in case anyone didn’t know already, but Pink Floyd also reissued a few albums with extra tracks (experience editions). Dark Side of the Moon has a second CD with a live performance of Dark Side from Wembley November 1974. Wish You Were Here has Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Raving and Drooling (early version of Sheep) and You've Got to Be Crazy (early version of Dogs) as extra tracks on a second CD. They are also from the Wembley November 1974 run of shows. I am not sure if these are all from the same show, but I have seen all tracks being attributed to the 11/16/74 show. In any case they are nice additions to have.

Third, although I was somewhat late getting on the bus for Dead, in 1994 I went to my first Dead show and preceding that about month and half earlier, I saw Pink Floyd for the first time as well (obviously sans Roger Waters). I always felt like that was a nice 1-2 punch to begin my concert going and traveling experience with those two shows. Now regarding the Floyd show, I was familiar mostly with Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall and Wish You Were Here material and they played a lot of that, basically a greatest hits type of deal. However Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell stuff was cool too. They had one hell of stage show set up as everyone can imagine, lasers, giant pigs and the like. During Comfortably Numb, a gigantic crystal ball came out of the center of the floor and it started spinning, reflecting all of the lights so it looked like the whole Three Rivers Stadium was rotating and about to achieve liftoff. Fortunately I wasn’t too twisted myself but I was impressed. Of course in that very same stadium a little over a year later, Jerry and the boys willed rain to fall on command as they started playing. They managed to drench that stadium and all of us in the audience in a pure energetic deluge of joy. I know this was not the first time something like that happened. Now I will admit, I was twisted at that show, but many other more grounded people corroborated the experience. At that show the stadium did not achieve liftoff, but I do think that just about everyone in the audience did. I know I sure as hell went somewhere…

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Hey Now!
So it's July now, and we are soon to learn about DaP31. Very exciting time... like moments before a set opener, wondering what it might be... Good times! I was also thinking, shouldn't we be hearing about a Fall Box release? Usually they provide a preview of the "Box" during the Meet Up At The Movies... any word ? Did I miss something? Prediction for DaP 31 is a 93 show... just a hunch not a wish, but I heard a great sequence on Sirius a few weeks back that made me think this period. As for a Box Set... I am hoping it includes PigPen in a big way. There's gotta be some killer Smokestack Lightening and others that I haven't heard yet...
And finally, anyone else going to Lockn? Hope to see you at the Bob & Wolf Bros set ... PM me.
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Always thought they some what choreographed that.....
A) in those days they literally had thier own weather station so they could track storms with radar....
B) they seemed to be sort of waiting, like for someone outside with a radio to que them....”here comes the front”
or perhaps just more of the that old GD X factor madness?
Either way, it was impressive and a hell of a storm. Totally took that show to another level!

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GratefulHan, you are spot on with the recommendation for the Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here experience editions, the extra material on those is well worth it. I find I listen to that live performance of Dark Side of the Moon as much as the original album, and the live stuff on the 2d disc of Wish You Were Here is definitely cool to have. I don't think that I saw experience editions for any of the other albums. Also, I have both the '72 and '69 portions of the Early Years box, both cool, the '69 set has a bunch of cool live stuff that makes it well worth it.

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I hope either DAP31 or the box is from ‘79.
They could scratch that early Brent itch without going to subpar ‘80’ s tapes.

We used to blast Umma Gumma with the lights out while we were tripping our sox off!
Great times

Rock on

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Hope it's 7-1-73. I had just turned five years old.

hbob1995: "We used to blast Umma Gumma with the lights out while we were tripping our sox off!"

You're my kind of people.

Years ago I did this with people who were not Deadheads and Attics came on I thought it was great! They all thought I was nuts.

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Another one of the San Francisco greats has left us, Happy Trails is one of my favorite post show lp's, both sides are just soooo good. Say hello to everyone for us up there in the Heart of Gold band.

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Even though some people did not like this album, I liked it better then what followed.

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