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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • hailboognish
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    Am I the only person who still has yet to receive this? Got an email last week with a tracking number that as of a few minutes ago still goes nowhere. I guess I'll just search for some links to download this, I'd rather wait for the discs to arrive, but I'm really eager to hear this.

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    Disc #3 always seems to be a favorite...

    Dave's 30 keeps the streak alive...... but i have to say, I really really like Disc 2... It's because of the "filler" songs from the end of 1/3/70.... the last 3 songs, Dancing in the Street, St. Stephen>In The Midnight Hour are just so good..... And so are the Morning Dew and Big Boss Man.... "filler" is a joke by the way.... those 5 songs from 1/3/70 on disc 2 are smoking hot.... So you listen to those 5 songs and then head to Disc 3 !!! It is like two Disc 3's in one CD!!!! and Disc 1 is awesome also... Bob t

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Early/Late shows

    It makes sense; take for example 1/2/70, there's three bands on the bill, the Dead, Lighthouse and Coldblood. It wasn't just a GD show.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Early/late = Set 1 and 2

    But this way you got to exit the venue during ‘intermission’ and restock your supplies if needed.

    Maybe both shows combined equaled the ticket price of a 2-set show.
    But hey, it’s NY and SF, they’re used to being charged more for everything.

  • JimInMD
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    I had some free time this morning and the weather was great.. so I took in a nice bike ride and finished my first listen.

    I have to say.. this Dark Star is fantastic. So moody and emotive. Disc three is a stunner and for me, moves this one into the top shelf of keeper shows.

    I, too, noticed the vocals are panned to one side. Not sure if it's left or right because I used headphones and I have no idea if I had them on the right ear or not. I did notice during I think Masons?? perhaps Dark Star?? mid song Bear moved Jerry's voice to center for a bit and then moved it back at some point. I think it was Mason's because he did the same thing on both versions.. but I could be wrong, I need to re-listen.

    Also, I really get a kick out of the embryonic versions of the new songs. So rough and Jerry's tone on some of them gives it a grungy quality. Raw and unpolished. I get and agree with some of the criticism these tunes get, but for me it is an added bonus. I especially like the early versions of China > Rider. Knowing where this duo winds up only adds to the excitement of hearing them work through the changes and transitions on these early versions.

    That's my take. A top shelf release, warts and all.. and that Dark Star, Special!

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    early and late shows

    I think it's on 10/30/70

    Jerry says something like this to a fan complaining about the short early show: "yeah, it's a bummer, but its the first show....how long do we have to do this?"

    in essence, Jerry didn't like the early/late split, either.

    I would have bought a ticket for each, regardless.

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    DaveRock...the guitar I am building is not exactly a Tele, but is very similar. It has a Tele body, but a custom neck. I went with 5A Birdseye Maple which will be roasted at high temperatures for enhanced playability and tone. I wanted a reliced guitar without the fender custom shop price tag. My guitar instructor here in KC recommended a company called MJT out of Carthage, MO. Very small town about 2 hours south of here. I had never heard of them, but they have hundreds of Grate reviews, and ship guitars all over the world. Their specialty is aged finishing. Check em out http://www.mjtagedfinishes.com/ I ordered one about 5 weeks ago, and takes approximately 14 weeks. I went with a faded/yellowed Taos Turquoise over vintage Sunburst, with some checking and med-heavy wear....... Can't wait!

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    Roy Buchanan- Danny Gatton-telecasters on fire!

    Yes, he was an incredible guitarist. He cropped up on here when we were talking about those Rockpalast shows. When I think of him, I always go on to consider Danny Gatton-another phenomenal telecaster player. He was more rockabilly/jazz than Roy, but, man, he could play. I think he was in a band with Jack Cassady in the early 1960s, although I don't think they recorded together. Tragically, like Roy, he also died by hanging himself.

    There's something about a telecaster that inspires truly spectacular playing. Hope you manage to get a picture of your tele custom on here KCJ. My most played electric guitars are the three pickup James Burton and the Japanese made pink paisley tele. You could crack glass with the tone on that one.

  • estimated-eyes
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    I have only gotten through disc 1, plan on the rest tonight, though the Milwaukee Bucks game is calling me (lifetime fan here), so it may have to wait. I received my lowest number yet-- #864. Not that it makes any difference... I like the tunes so far-- nice UJB and High Time (TC's contributions to High Time are immense).

    So, better than any other release, this show's liner notes put in perspective the Early and Late show phenomenon of Bill Graham's venues. Which makes me think that folks who saw the Grateful Dead at Bill's venues in the late 60s and early 70s (Fillmore Auditorium, Fillmore West, Fillmore East and Winterland) were getting a vastly different experience than those seeing them in other parts of the country.

    And I will say this in a rough way, but don't mean to disparage Mr. Graham because I have great respect for his work and what he did for the music industry in his lifetime. But, folks who saw the Dead at his venues during this time frame got screwed. While folks at other venues across the country were likely paying one admission price to see two sets of Good Old Grateful Dead, at Bill Graham's haunts, one had to pay for an early show or a late show-- to see both sets they had to buy two tickets. For the 1/2/70 show, the folks who only saw the early show got about one hour of music with only one serious jam in The Other One. The late show was clearly where it was at.

    Maybe some folks who were seeing the boys in this time period can share stories about this. I didn't see a show until 1988, born in 1970-- it was a different world by my time. If you saw them at the one of the Fillmore venues, did you buy tickets to early and late to see both sets? If you saw them elsewhere, was it one admission for two sets or did they follow Graham's format, too?

    This has me very intrigued. Based upon this release, I am not certain I would have become a DeadHead if my first show was the early show on 1/2. While I like it fine, I know there is more music to follow-- at least 90 minutes. But if that was the entire show, not sure I would go back often. My reaction might have been, "That's it?" In two years, three hours is the norm for a GD show-- no late or early show.

    I also wonder how the band felt about it-- might have to re-read Phil and/or Bill's books to see if they touch on it. Bill Graham is making out nicely here with two sets of house tickets sold for the same amount of music as other venues got for one house. Did the band get two cuts from Bill for two sets to two separate audiences? Or did they get paid a percentage of the house regardless of where they played, in which case they came out all right too. Just curious about this after receiving this set.

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    I, too, had a concern about tracking, and then #19377 showed up yesterday. Moral of the story: Take a deep breath 'cause it's coming.
    Thanks lovemygirl for the Woodstock heads up. I'm in for the 10 cd audio only (about $175 with shipping and tax).
    The complete box set is overkill for me, as I already have an original concert poster, director's cut dvd, Woodstock and Woodstock II LPs, and a 90 minute cassette of the GD and all the delays and ramblings (Jellystone Park etc.).
    Resellers and uber completists will like it, though.
    I had the privilege, as an 11 year old, to see the movie "Woodstock" in 1970 and, needless to say, that experience "opened my eyes".

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I know this might be a reach, but maybe it is a Chicago run. He referenced High Fidelity which was a movie based in Chicago, and Til the morning comes was not only a Dead song but a Peter Cetera song and as we all know he is was in Chicago. Now what Chicago run could it be?

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I’m going on record and say it is 3 last shows Brent played. 07/21/90, 07/22/90, and 07/23/90. Played at Tinsley Park (Chicago) with a Queen Jane on night one.

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I’m currently listening to 7-21-90 and He’s Gone is just finishing.

Sadly, no hula hoops.

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Fuck that reCRAPTCHA shit.

My previous post required around 20 reCRAPTCHA screens.
This past weekend I ended up just deleting a post because the reCRAPTCHA wouldn’t end.

If TPTB are trying to dissuade us from posting on this site, they may end up getting their wish.

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A while back I was thinking it might a box of Uptown Theater shows.

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I was thinking it might be a 69 show but I don't think TPTB would release a 69 show right after releasing a 70 show. Now if it's a Chicago show I'd go with 1/30/78, 1/31/78 or 2/1/78 the reason being that it's been awhile since we had an official release from 1978.

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Hit me like a diamond bullet in the brain-its 1976, surely. The reference to putting the Dead cds away for a while, to take them out when the morning comes could be a reference to their sabbatical at the end of 1974, and subsequent re-emergence in 76. Taking into account the fact that there hasn't been proper 76 box yet-a couple of Dicks Picks were 4 cd 2 show sets - then this seems most likely. I would prefer Fall 1972-but I can't see it myself.

For all fans of the post Syd, pre Dark Side Floyd, I would recommend the new remaster of Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. Its part of the new box set, but all the studio albums have been released individually. They are as cheap as chips and this one, the best of the bunch, sounds amazing. They seemed to me to take the space music Pink Floyd played as a basis for their own development. Mainly electronic keyboards, but you can't dance to it.

Whoops, I've got that "I'm not a robot thing" to do now. Maybe they think my post is potentially subversive.

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I think you might be onto something Daverock. Also, from the first Bolo clue:
"Trapped....from earth......for what seemed like a decade......." "grace of God" "good to be back although my soul is still drained and weakened"

the decade= 65-75, grace of God = Blues for Allah

I'd love a 76 box. I've been listening to a lot of 76 lately. The instrumental blend is so perfect, really as good as pre-hiatus.

Happy 4th folks! I'd love to tag along with you, in spirit, HF on the Yampa! I'll be quiet, (in spirit), and you won't even notice I'm there.... it looks wonderful!

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...good morning my brothers & sisters out there in DeadLand...concerning Bolo’s last post/clue, it’s the next Daves Pick, #31, if I read it correctly?!
Have a grateful day everyone, and have a Happy Holiday 4th July, be safe be alive and rock on !!! God bless.
🙏❤️🤠

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...I’d like More 1979 please, Ill take my 3 sugars and cream with coffee,lol!
Also some 70’-72’, 76’, 82’-89’ or 90’-94’ would be welcomed as well, as long as the “Audio Quality” is Primo! 😉 which is my top priority for a Full Performance vs a Compilation Piece like the ‘Road Trip Series’...who am I kid’n, I love it all, “feed me Seymour!” Lol ha ha...

Been listen’n & enjoying my, ‘Fillmore West 1969’ boxset, my favorite boxset Release to date, for now...
peace be with you all my fellow brothers & sisters. Long live the Grateful Dead! 🙏❤️💀

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high fidelity would mean that the shows were recorded to reel to reel.

2-track or multi-track recordings or both. That should narrow it down a bit.

Edit:

Looks like it's Betty Boards from '76 along with 7/18/76.

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First off, let the guy hang here without projecting his comments as clues. Okay, but because his subject line was about our patiently waiting -- a kind but total mis-read, this place is getting hot -- I put my naivete aside and join the speculation.

I don't have much, and he leaves us wondering if he's taunting about DaP 31 or the new box, but...

"every once in a while" could be completed as "get shown the light," a reference to Scarlet Begonias? "Under the bed" (no one puts their GD CDs on the floor under the bed, Bolo has book and CD shelves) ... probably means something. And "til the morning comes" could be a reference to when Morning Dew arrives. (Any shows with Scarlet and Dew?) Also, his line breaks are suspicious -- inviting a naive idjit like me to seek a pattern.

Goddammit Bolo, ya got me going again. Well played!

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from underneath a bedroom cabinet and it has my Download series CD's ...I had lost the files due to an HD crash so yes yes and yes...threw Vol 12 disc 2 in and had a great listen to St Louis '69...cracked up hearing Jerry say "Ok we have to stop playing or the police will take our road manager to jail..." at the end of an aborted "Caution"...also the bonus stuff at the end of the show is a rehearsal of The Eleven & Duprees recorded at the Avalon...have to star ripping these discs back to a couple of externals I use now, 8 TB both...some fun

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Never in a million years would I have thought that some folks might construe my latest post to be some sort of clue regarding the identity of a box set or DaP31. My apologies, as I'd NEVER want to mislead, confuse or otherwise discombobulate any of the kind souls here on this forum (cough...cough).

But, of course, the post was a clue. Not for the aforementioned products people are breathlessly anticipating, but for a "What's Taking So Dang Long?" contest. Something to do as we all mill aimlessly around while DL casually looks at his watch and ponders the summertime flora and fauna of Vancouver Island.

A careful read of my last entry will reveal a specific venue and associated concert(s). The first person to post the correct answer will receive an assortment of GD-related goodies valued at more than $100, but less than $1 million. As a bonus, if you can name the song that was played for the first time at said show(s), I'll throw in some extra ephemera.

Only one guess per screen name (no screen names created after July 1, 2019). Just post your conjecture here, and the earliest correct answer will get the goods.

Cheers and good luck!

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Oooh...

I think it's Harding Theater, November 7, 1971 (and the previous night).

I wish I could hide away!

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Long time listener. First Time caller.

Going with:

06/03-04/76

Oregon - Paramount Theater

Mission in The Rain on 06/04

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I’m going to say the same answer as RoosSQ
However you’ll notice that my screen name was created before July 1st .
( happy to share my winnings though )

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I'm guessing the full Fillmore East run from 9/17/70-9/20/70, since "Till the Morning Comes" was first played on 9/18.
Though I could be wrong.
I mean, I usually am.
Until I'm not.
But even then just barely.
I'd dig a '76 box, but "September 70: Fillmore East the Complete Recordings" is my official guess.
Officially.

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12/26/70
12/27/70
12/28/70
Till the Morning Comes
1st time played
09/18/70
Last time played
12/26/70

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Everyone is guessing dates from 1970 for DaP #31 with the "Til the Morning Comes Line"....I seriously doubt it is from 1970, that's what DaP #30 was from!!?!!

Perhaps it's the Harding Theatre..

The Felt Forum is tucked away under MSG and sort of hidden in the bowels of the NY Subway. Not that I have ever gotten a single one of the bolo riddles so far...….

If we can believe Bolo.. this is not a clue to the next release, which probably means it will be Dave's Picks 31.

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It will be announced tomorrow and will be one of the 4th of July shows.

In my best Colbert voice,,,,, send me award!

Are they for the Box Set or DaP31? Or both?

Predictions:
DaP31 - 6/3/76 Paramount Theater - Portland, Or.
5 songs make their debut/1st performance:
1. Might As Well (opener)
2. Lazy Lightnin' >
3. Supplication (both middle of 1st set)
4. Samson And Delilah (2nd set opener)
5. The Wheel (encore)

I know it's not a favorite but I think this show has my favorite version of 'Looks Like Rain'…BW and DJG are spot-on with vocals and harmonies as JG 'rains' notes around them.

Box Set:
Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…the last thing they need is another box set sitting in their warehouse. If that happens we may only see box sets every 2 years?

Box Set Dark Horse:
December '69: 12/20, 12/21, 12/26, 12/28-12/31. Includes the legendary Ark run. It would also be the 1st time Rhino tied a Box Set and a DaP together: last shows of '69 and the 1st shows of '70.

I have no idea if the shows are in the vault but it would be a win-win either way!

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He said "under the bed" and what is under the bed? Box spring and flip it would mean a spring box (set). Or mabey not. I had to guess something. Talk about a shot in the dark.

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Why the fuggazi isn’t this show released?
Have never heard the Bob set, but if it’s Half as good as the JGB one with none other than Billy the K on the skins......

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Harding

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Sheesh. This contest was over almost before it started!

Congrats to Richard Torres, correctly guessing the Harding Theatre, two 1971 shows, Hide Away made its GD debut.

Send me your address via PM and I'll get you your box o' goodies. Unless you're the same Richard Torres from the NSA who oversaw the implantation of an evil minibot on my cerebral cortex during my first alien abduction. If you're that guy, forget I was even on here.

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Also i predict new box is portchester nov70 with pristine complete 48 track recording

And bonus show 11 20 70

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FYI all the nov 7th 1971 Harding show has been available on amazon now quite a while now ( in the uk anyway ) . Pleeeeaaaasssseeee can we have a uk/Europe distribution centre , otherwise any large box is a no no on account of getting absolutely stuffed with import tax . 🙀

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. . ..I can hear your voice.
It's cool shit like that that keeps me coming back...n

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