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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Charlie3
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    Took a little dead break over the weekend.
    Bob Marley - Exodus, definitely a classic album, spun me off on a recollection of a previous listen in days gone by with a now dead friend.
    Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual, sometimes it just fits a mood.
    JGB - Eel River 6/10/89, currently my favorite show from the Eel River box.
    Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Going On, been too long since I listened to this one, good stuff from start to finish.
    Peter Tosh - Bush Doctor, great album, and something cool about hearing the Mick Jagger vocals on (You Gotta Walk) Don't Look Back.
    Currently started spinning the 5/9/77 Buffalo show from the GSTL box, probably the show I have listened to the most from that box. Sounds great so far.

    Interesting post by Thin, really a bummer to see the decline of the disc and the rise of streaming. I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc. There is also the issue of data as I am in a location where my internet access is satellite only, with enough data each month to last me about two weeks without any streaming. No cable, as I long ago lost all interest in a monthly bill to watch television. I get a bunch of free channels over the air in high-def that provide me with an abundance of opportunities to waste time on TV, and anything that I really want to see from a pay service I can usually still find on disc. Also, hard for me to get behind hooking up a TV to the internet, seems a lot like the watchful video screens from Orwell's 1984 now that there are camera's and microphones in many smart TV's. The smart devices often just seem like an invitation for a giant corporation to spy on your day to day existence to better understand your interests and how to better market more products to you. So yeah, the demise of the disc is a bummer for me.

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    Hi All,
    I haven't commented in a while but I have been following along since the DaP 29 forum discussion. So first order of business is that I cant wait until DaP 30 arrives. I have never heard these shows so this is adding to my excitement. I think the bonus disc will give us just about everything from 1/3 that is not on the other 3 CDs. Dave has become very savvy about fitting as much as he can on the main release and on the bonus discs with copyright & royalties accounted for too. These DaP's with the bonus discs have really become like mini box sets.

    Second I am always happy with just about every release, box sets too. I am hoping that this years box set is from 69, or in keeping with anniversaries in decades, maybe some select shows from 79. I know this often comes up from many of us but I really would like get some new releases from Brent's rookie year. I feel that he inspired the band and the playing reflected that. Now I wouldn't complain about a Warfield box, but to me there are other 80s shows I wouldnt mind having out first. Maybe they save the Warfield box for next year - 40 year anniversary? In the end it doesn't matter as it's all good.

    Finally I have been neglecting E72 and Spring 77 shows during this anniversary time. I recently acquired the Spring 1990 TOO box and I have been giving those shows a good run. What a fantastic box set. Plus I have to admit I have revisited the PNW box as well. I suffered from the defective disc pandemic so that stunted my listening to those shows when it first came out.

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    While it seems believable that most 20 year olds don't own dvd/blu ray players, it also seem unlikely that Dead are trying to sell products to people of that age group anyway. 20 years olds weren't even born when the band were functioning, so trying to aim for that market may well be futile.

    No, I would think, and I haven't seen a survey on the subject, that most of the people who buy music by The Dead are over 40. And people of that generation are more likely to favour older technology.

    Having said that, I don't watch Dead dvds, or any other dvds of live concerts for that matter, with the same regularity that I play records or cds.

  • JimInMD
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    They did reissue Winterland 74 in BluRay.. I have both. Had to get the BluRay.

    I get the feeling there just isn't as much enthusiasm for GD DVD's/BluRay's in general. There must not be as much money in them. Still, I would like to see more.

    I fired up the John Deere.. Took some time to get it started, been a while.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Groundhog Day, rehashing old releases

    Aoxomoxoa,
    Pre-order the re-release now.......

  • Thin
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    DVD/Blue Ray is Dead

    Folks, PLEASE stop the madness of asking for Blue Ray video reissues! They ain't gonna waste time, effort and resources reissuing existing videos into Blue Ray. It's not 2005 anymore. DVD/BlueRay players are in only 67% of homes, down from 73% IN JUST ONE YEAR (that's a MASSIVE hockey-stick statistical drop). Most 20-year olds don't buy 'em - hell, they don't even want cable much less clunky players and discs that scratch. (https://media.thinknum.com/articles/dvd-blu-ray-sales-tanking-as-stream…), and taking a blurry/grainy image from 40 years ago and hoping a 2nd round of digitization makes any noticeable difference form the first round is a fool's errand. It wouldn't sell.

    The Dead are interested in exciting new projects, not rehashing mediocre releases with video that will be twice as disappointing as the original grainy releases 20 years ago (since people weren't used to HDTV yet - we were still staring at clunky tube TV's).

    This is why I don't comment much anymore. I feel like I've said everything once already (twice, actually) - feels like Groundhog Day.

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    Hard to know for sure what Dave was referring to with other formats, but I too would love the idea of more DVD or Blu-ray.
    Good to see JiminMD back in the mix. Their last full show release on DVD was CW&I and to my eyes was the best to date. Looked better than the View from the Vault releases of the early 2000s. I still get chills when I see the Box of Rain and they sing the chorus. Reminds me of the Box they played at Alpine shortly after that. Was a dream of mine at the time to hear that one live.
    And for this year's box, I am starting to believe what others have mentioned that their has been a correlation with the RSD release and the box set. If this is the case bring on the Warfield Box, can't wait!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    45th anniversary of Winterland 10/74

    I’ll take those on Blu-ray instead of Alpine 89.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Jim, your mission, if you choose to accept it

    Use the John Deere to deliver high quality film to 89/90 Dead tour.

  • JimInMD
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    I think the problem with all those 89/90 videos is how they were recorded. They were recorded by Len Dell'Amico on 4" magnetic video tape. Essentially high quality VHS tape. It was popular in the 80's, you can notice the same grainy look on all those low budget sitcoms that are in syndication, they look dated and grainy but nobody cares much because, well, we are talking about low budget 80's TV. We do care about the video of the good ole Grateful Dead, however.

    Upgrading to BluRay will not provide a video upgrade over a DVD because both medias are much higher quality than the capture of the source tape it was recorded on. You would get a sound upgrade though and better detail on the grainy source (which can in a way make it look worse).

    Anything recorded on film (The Grateful Dead Movie, Sunshine Daydream, perhaps Château d'Hérouville) can be greatly improved by bringing to bringing it to BluRay, that's where you see the improvements. You can magnify and enhance the hell out of film with good results so long as it was in focus. But film was and is expensive.

    I still want all this 89/90 stuff released.. I don't watch concert videos as often as I used to, but sometimes you just want concert time in the home theatre.

    That's my take.. bring on the 80's video but expect it to reflect the technology of the day. The video will still be grainy.

    As for E72.. I sad to admit I just finished 4/8. Perhaps there is time to catch up.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I know this might be a reach, but maybe it is a Chicago run. He referenced High Fidelity which was a movie based in Chicago, and Til the morning comes was not only a Dead song but a Peter Cetera song and as we all know he is was in Chicago. Now what Chicago run could it be?

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I’m going on record and say it is 3 last shows Brent played. 07/21/90, 07/22/90, and 07/23/90. Played at Tinsley Park (Chicago) with a Queen Jane on night one.

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I’m currently listening to 7-21-90 and He’s Gone is just finishing.

Sadly, no hula hoops.

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Fuck that reCRAPTCHA shit.

My previous post required around 20 reCRAPTCHA screens.
This past weekend I ended up just deleting a post because the reCRAPTCHA wouldn’t end.

If TPTB are trying to dissuade us from posting on this site, they may end up getting their wish.

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A while back I was thinking it might a box of Uptown Theater shows.

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I was thinking it might be a 69 show but I don't think TPTB would release a 69 show right after releasing a 70 show. Now if it's a Chicago show I'd go with 1/30/78, 1/31/78 or 2/1/78 the reason being that it's been awhile since we had an official release from 1978.

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Hit me like a diamond bullet in the brain-its 1976, surely. The reference to putting the Dead cds away for a while, to take them out when the morning comes could be a reference to their sabbatical at the end of 1974, and subsequent re-emergence in 76. Taking into account the fact that there hasn't been proper 76 box yet-a couple of Dicks Picks were 4 cd 2 show sets - then this seems most likely. I would prefer Fall 1972-but I can't see it myself.

For all fans of the post Syd, pre Dark Side Floyd, I would recommend the new remaster of Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. Its part of the new box set, but all the studio albums have been released individually. They are as cheap as chips and this one, the best of the bunch, sounds amazing. They seemed to me to take the space music Pink Floyd played as a basis for their own development. Mainly electronic keyboards, but you can't dance to it.

Whoops, I've got that "I'm not a robot thing" to do now. Maybe they think my post is potentially subversive.

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I think you might be onto something Daverock. Also, from the first Bolo clue:
"Trapped....from earth......for what seemed like a decade......." "grace of God" "good to be back although my soul is still drained and weakened"

the decade= 65-75, grace of God = Blues for Allah

I'd love a 76 box. I've been listening to a lot of 76 lately. The instrumental blend is so perfect, really as good as pre-hiatus.

Happy 4th folks! I'd love to tag along with you, in spirit, HF on the Yampa! I'll be quiet, (in spirit), and you won't even notice I'm there.... it looks wonderful!

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...good morning my brothers & sisters out there in DeadLand...concerning Bolo’s last post/clue, it’s the next Daves Pick, #31, if I read it correctly?!
Have a grateful day everyone, and have a Happy Holiday 4th July, be safe be alive and rock on !!! God bless.
🙏❤️🤠

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...I’d like More 1979 please, Ill take my 3 sugars and cream with coffee,lol!
Also some 70’-72’, 76’, 82’-89’ or 90’-94’ would be welcomed as well, as long as the “Audio Quality” is Primo! 😉 which is my top priority for a Full Performance vs a Compilation Piece like the ‘Road Trip Series’...who am I kid’n, I love it all, “feed me Seymour!” Lol ha ha...

Been listen’n & enjoying my, ‘Fillmore West 1969’ boxset, my favorite boxset Release to date, for now...
peace be with you all my fellow brothers & sisters. Long live the Grateful Dead! 🙏❤️💀

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high fidelity would mean that the shows were recorded to reel to reel.

2-track or multi-track recordings or both. That should narrow it down a bit.

Edit:

Looks like it's Betty Boards from '76 along with 7/18/76.

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First off, let the guy hang here without projecting his comments as clues. Okay, but because his subject line was about our patiently waiting -- a kind but total mis-read, this place is getting hot -- I put my naivete aside and join the speculation.

I don't have much, and he leaves us wondering if he's taunting about DaP 31 or the new box, but...

"every once in a while" could be completed as "get shown the light," a reference to Scarlet Begonias? "Under the bed" (no one puts their GD CDs on the floor under the bed, Bolo has book and CD shelves) ... probably means something. And "til the morning comes" could be a reference to when Morning Dew arrives. (Any shows with Scarlet and Dew?) Also, his line breaks are suspicious -- inviting a naive idjit like me to seek a pattern.

Goddammit Bolo, ya got me going again. Well played!

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from underneath a bedroom cabinet and it has my Download series CD's ...I had lost the files due to an HD crash so yes yes and yes...threw Vol 12 disc 2 in and had a great listen to St Louis '69...cracked up hearing Jerry say "Ok we have to stop playing or the police will take our road manager to jail..." at the end of an aborted "Caution"...also the bonus stuff at the end of the show is a rehearsal of The Eleven & Duprees recorded at the Avalon...have to star ripping these discs back to a couple of externals I use now, 8 TB both...some fun

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Never in a million years would I have thought that some folks might construe my latest post to be some sort of clue regarding the identity of a box set or DaP31. My apologies, as I'd NEVER want to mislead, confuse or otherwise discombobulate any of the kind souls here on this forum (cough...cough).

But, of course, the post was a clue. Not for the aforementioned products people are breathlessly anticipating, but for a "What's Taking So Dang Long?" contest. Something to do as we all mill aimlessly around while DL casually looks at his watch and ponders the summertime flora and fauna of Vancouver Island.

A careful read of my last entry will reveal a specific venue and associated concert(s). The first person to post the correct answer will receive an assortment of GD-related goodies valued at more than $100, but less than $1 million. As a bonus, if you can name the song that was played for the first time at said show(s), I'll throw in some extra ephemera.

Only one guess per screen name (no screen names created after July 1, 2019). Just post your conjecture here, and the earliest correct answer will get the goods.

Cheers and good luck!

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Oooh...

I think it's Harding Theater, November 7, 1971 (and the previous night).

I wish I could hide away!

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Long time listener. First Time caller.

Going with:

06/03-04/76

Oregon - Paramount Theater

Mission in The Rain on 06/04

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I’m going to say the same answer as RoosSQ
However you’ll notice that my screen name was created before July 1st .
( happy to share my winnings though )

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I'm guessing the full Fillmore East run from 9/17/70-9/20/70, since "Till the Morning Comes" was first played on 9/18.
Though I could be wrong.
I mean, I usually am.
Until I'm not.
But even then just barely.
I'd dig a '76 box, but "September 70: Fillmore East the Complete Recordings" is my official guess.
Officially.

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12/26/70
12/27/70
12/28/70
Till the Morning Comes
1st time played
09/18/70
Last time played
12/26/70

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Everyone is guessing dates from 1970 for DaP #31 with the "Til the Morning Comes Line"....I seriously doubt it is from 1970, that's what DaP #30 was from!!?!!

Perhaps it's the Harding Theatre..

The Felt Forum is tucked away under MSG and sort of hidden in the bowels of the NY Subway. Not that I have ever gotten a single one of the bolo riddles so far...….

If we can believe Bolo.. this is not a clue to the next release, which probably means it will be Dave's Picks 31.

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It will be announced tomorrow and will be one of the 4th of July shows.

In my best Colbert voice,,,,, send me award!

Are they for the Box Set or DaP31? Or both?

Predictions:
DaP31 - 6/3/76 Paramount Theater - Portland, Or.
5 songs make their debut/1st performance:
1. Might As Well (opener)
2. Lazy Lightnin' >
3. Supplication (both middle of 1st set)
4. Samson And Delilah (2nd set opener)
5. The Wheel (encore)

I know it's not a favorite but I think this show has my favorite version of 'Looks Like Rain'…BW and DJG are spot-on with vocals and harmonies as JG 'rains' notes around them.

Box Set:
Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…the last thing they need is another box set sitting in their warehouse. If that happens we may only see box sets every 2 years?

Box Set Dark Horse:
December '69: 12/20, 12/21, 12/26, 12/28-12/31. Includes the legendary Ark run. It would also be the 1st time Rhino tied a Box Set and a DaP together: last shows of '69 and the 1st shows of '70.

I have no idea if the shows are in the vault but it would be a win-win either way!

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He said "under the bed" and what is under the bed? Box spring and flip it would mean a spring box (set). Or mabey not. I had to guess something. Talk about a shot in the dark.

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Why the fuggazi isn’t this show released?
Have never heard the Bob set, but if it’s Half as good as the JGB one with none other than Billy the K on the skins......

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Harding

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Sheesh. This contest was over almost before it started!

Congrats to Richard Torres, correctly guessing the Harding Theatre, two 1971 shows, Hide Away made its GD debut.

Send me your address via PM and I'll get you your box o' goodies. Unless you're the same Richard Torres from the NSA who oversaw the implantation of an evil minibot on my cerebral cortex during my first alien abduction. If you're that guy, forget I was even on here.

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Also i predict new box is portchester nov70 with pristine complete 48 track recording

And bonus show 11 20 70

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FYI all the nov 7th 1971 Harding show has been available on amazon now quite a while now ( in the uk anyway ) . Pleeeeaaaasssseeee can we have a uk/Europe distribution centre , otherwise any large box is a no no on account of getting absolutely stuffed with import tax . 🙀

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. . ..I can hear your voice.
It's cool shit like that that keeps me coming back...n

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