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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Great story about seeing the Dead-thanks for sharing.

    Concerning great bands who didn't make it-I literally wouldn't know where to begin. I've got countless compilations of British and American bands from 1965-1975, some of whom only ever got to cut one single. "Nuggets" was the gateway drug for this obsession, and any one of the bands featured on the original double album, since expanded to a 4 cd set would qualify as must hears.

    But to delve even deeper, there is a great and beautiful book edited by the late great Patrick Lundborg, called "The Acid Archives", which chronicle bands so rare they weren't even household names in their own household. I've picked up a couple of albums recommended in this tome-two comparatively Dead friendly ones are the "Mountain Bus" album, which is often compared to Working Mans era Dead, and features a great version of "I Know You Rider", and Snakegrinder's "..and the Shredded Field Mice", which features some tidy jamming. Apparently Snakegrinder used to cover Dead songs live. We may never know how well.

    In the comparatively mainstream world, I get the impression the Flamin' Groovies didn't make it in the States. Shame-they would have livened Woodstock up a bit. "Flamingo" and "Teenage Head" are my two favourite albums by them, and the later single "Shake Some Action" is one of the best of the decade-1970s. They must have been quite successful though-they are touring Britain this very minute.

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    Here goes:
    We were 6 kids, 16-18 y.o., 4 guys/2gals who drove to Baltimore in what else? A white VW bus! We arrived around 3:00 PM and found the Civic Center. We proceeded to hang around outside for awhile and watch the great quanities of Heineken being brought in…this was before we knew about the Heineken requirements. The rest of the afternoon was spent walking around taking in the sights. The Inner Harbor had just completed renovations in hopes of furthering tourism as well as improving the city's image. I don't think we even had so much as a joint with us.

    The show was great with 'Sugaree' being a standout..the extended solos blew us away, there's no other way to put it. Though not the tour's best version it was still incredible to hear and see. Our seats were approx. 10 ft. in front of the soundboard and to the left. We decided to get a room for the night, the gals making sure it was in the same hotel GD were staying. After we registered everyone but myself headed for the lobby bathrooms. While standing there waiting in the lobby for my crew, 3 'freaks' walk through the front door: the guy on the left had a beard, glasses and shoulder length dark hair, the guy on the right had glasses and light brown, medium length hair and was talking to the guy on the left, while the guy in the middle was just bobbing his head left and right…my thought process was this: 'Damn they let any kind of freak in this place'…and then I saw the GUITARS…I headed for the bathrooms around the corner to alert my friends but by the time we got back they had gotten on the elevators.

    Long story short the gals were persistent in all things GD (these 2 ladies were at the Closing Of Winterland) and we got to meet Jerry Garcia the next day. He was an incredibly nice guy who took the time to talk with us for 15 mins. or so. My friend said, 'You did an incredible version of 'Sugaree' last night', at which Jerry, with a smile and a twinkle in his eye said, 'That was a lamb'. I'll never forget those words and believe they'll stay with me for life. All in all it was a great time

    I have 2 other '77 stories which I'll save for another time:
    1. The camp-out for opening night tickets at the Phila. Spectrum 4/22/77
    2. Englishtown

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    At least TYA had some success in the US…I believe it was their appearance at Woodstock that got them noticed by the media and the masses. 'Bad Scene' from 'Sssssh' was the song that got me.

    Unfortunately Moby Grape had an extremely bad marketing campaign that sank their 1st album, which is a shame as I think it's a great debut.

    I have what I call 'The Rock & Roll Fools Hall of Fame'…the fools being the masses who missed out on great music because they wouldn't give it a chance/listen. I think every person on this board could make a list of their own…artists or bands who never made it, whatever the circumstances…Moby Grape are in my Top 5.

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    DaveStrang brought up Moby Grape....

    ....ohhh shit. Ten Years After are there as well.

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    Definitely Dave's Picks worthy. I cannot believe this has not been released yet. Great performance, great recording. Did I miss something?

    What?? Your third show? Lucky dog. Do tell.

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    I've weaned myself from 3 10s down to 3 5s…will hopefully get off completely in the future.

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    Last 5…Why not?

    Last 5 GD:

    1. 11/7/69 Fillmore Auditorium - SF, Ca. - not as revered as DP16 11/8/69, but a fine show nonetheless. I was wondering why this wasn't a 4 show run? 11/8/69 was a Saturday which if I remember correctly was the Deadcrew 'dose' night and could be the reason for the X factor behind this show.

    2. 5/26/93 Road Trips Vol. 2 #4 - I forgot how good the 2nd set is, but 'Box Of Rain' reminded me why PL should never handle lead vocals again…

    3. 5/26/77 Baltimore, Md - My 3rd show... a sleeper (imo) from the much lauded Spring '77 tour…another potential DaP?

    4. 4/24/72 Dusseldorf, West Germany E72 Tour…'nuff said.

    5. Ladies & Gentlemen…The GD: 4/25-29/71 - a little musical detective work needed to be done: 'Casey Jones' is played at 4 of the 5 shows (4/25-27/71 & 4/29/71). I listened to the 5 shows and 'Casey' closes the four 1st sets with BW or JG saying 'Set Break' etc. 'Casey' on L & G has PL saying 'Thank ya New York' followed by Bill Graham praising the virtues of GD. This leads me to believe it's not just the end of the show but the end of the 5 night run… so where does PL fit in to it? It's actually evidence of the studio wizardry of both Jeffrey Norman (mixing) & Rudson Shurtleff (asst. engineer). PL says 'Thank ya New York' at the end of the 'UJB' 1st encore on 4/29! A great compilation and a little GD mystery…

    Last 5 (Actually 6) non-GD...all released/recorded 1967:
    1. Moby Grape - 1st S/T…these guys should have been as popular as GD/JA/BB & HC (imo).
    2. The Byrds - Younger Than Yesterday
    3. Miles Davis - Sorcerer
    4. Elizabeth Cotten - Shake Sugaree
    5. The Strawbs w/Sandy Denny - All Our Own Work (1967 Demos)
    6. Gene Clark w/The Gosdin Bros. - 1st S/T…when he left the Byrds they lost more than a lead vocalist.

    Damn I love music!

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    5s or 10s? ;-)

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    Dark Star wins

    :)))

  • Vguy72
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    TOO's vs DS's....

    ....one could scribe a thesis.
    Box set announcement next week. I feel it in my bones.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I know this might be a reach, but maybe it is a Chicago run. He referenced High Fidelity which was a movie based in Chicago, and Til the morning comes was not only a Dead song but a Peter Cetera song and as we all know he is was in Chicago. Now what Chicago run could it be?

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I’m going on record and say it is 3 last shows Brent played. 07/21/90, 07/22/90, and 07/23/90. Played at Tinsley Park (Chicago) with a Queen Jane on night one.

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I’m currently listening to 7-21-90 and He’s Gone is just finishing.

Sadly, no hula hoops.

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Fuck that reCRAPTCHA shit.

My previous post required around 20 reCRAPTCHA screens.
This past weekend I ended up just deleting a post because the reCRAPTCHA wouldn’t end.

If TPTB are trying to dissuade us from posting on this site, they may end up getting their wish.

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A while back I was thinking it might a box of Uptown Theater shows.

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I was thinking it might be a 69 show but I don't think TPTB would release a 69 show right after releasing a 70 show. Now if it's a Chicago show I'd go with 1/30/78, 1/31/78 or 2/1/78 the reason being that it's been awhile since we had an official release from 1978.

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Hit me like a diamond bullet in the brain-its 1976, surely. The reference to putting the Dead cds away for a while, to take them out when the morning comes could be a reference to their sabbatical at the end of 1974, and subsequent re-emergence in 76. Taking into account the fact that there hasn't been proper 76 box yet-a couple of Dicks Picks were 4 cd 2 show sets - then this seems most likely. I would prefer Fall 1972-but I can't see it myself.

For all fans of the post Syd, pre Dark Side Floyd, I would recommend the new remaster of Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. Its part of the new box set, but all the studio albums have been released individually. They are as cheap as chips and this one, the best of the bunch, sounds amazing. They seemed to me to take the space music Pink Floyd played as a basis for their own development. Mainly electronic keyboards, but you can't dance to it.

Whoops, I've got that "I'm not a robot thing" to do now. Maybe they think my post is potentially subversive.

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I think you might be onto something Daverock. Also, from the first Bolo clue:
"Trapped....from earth......for what seemed like a decade......." "grace of God" "good to be back although my soul is still drained and weakened"

the decade= 65-75, grace of God = Blues for Allah

I'd love a 76 box. I've been listening to a lot of 76 lately. The instrumental blend is so perfect, really as good as pre-hiatus.

Happy 4th folks! I'd love to tag along with you, in spirit, HF on the Yampa! I'll be quiet, (in spirit), and you won't even notice I'm there.... it looks wonderful!

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...good morning my brothers & sisters out there in DeadLand...concerning Bolo’s last post/clue, it’s the next Daves Pick, #31, if I read it correctly?!
Have a grateful day everyone, and have a Happy Holiday 4th July, be safe be alive and rock on !!! God bless.
🙏❤️🤠

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...I’d like More 1979 please, Ill take my 3 sugars and cream with coffee,lol!
Also some 70’-72’, 76’, 82’-89’ or 90’-94’ would be welcomed as well, as long as the “Audio Quality” is Primo! 😉 which is my top priority for a Full Performance vs a Compilation Piece like the ‘Road Trip Series’...who am I kid’n, I love it all, “feed me Seymour!” Lol ha ha...

Been listen’n & enjoying my, ‘Fillmore West 1969’ boxset, my favorite boxset Release to date, for now...
peace be with you all my fellow brothers & sisters. Long live the Grateful Dead! 🙏❤️💀

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high fidelity would mean that the shows were recorded to reel to reel.

2-track or multi-track recordings or both. That should narrow it down a bit.

Edit:

Looks like it's Betty Boards from '76 along with 7/18/76.

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First off, let the guy hang here without projecting his comments as clues. Okay, but because his subject line was about our patiently waiting -- a kind but total mis-read, this place is getting hot -- I put my naivete aside and join the speculation.

I don't have much, and he leaves us wondering if he's taunting about DaP 31 or the new box, but...

"every once in a while" could be completed as "get shown the light," a reference to Scarlet Begonias? "Under the bed" (no one puts their GD CDs on the floor under the bed, Bolo has book and CD shelves) ... probably means something. And "til the morning comes" could be a reference to when Morning Dew arrives. (Any shows with Scarlet and Dew?) Also, his line breaks are suspicious -- inviting a naive idjit like me to seek a pattern.

Goddammit Bolo, ya got me going again. Well played!

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from underneath a bedroom cabinet and it has my Download series CD's ...I had lost the files due to an HD crash so yes yes and yes...threw Vol 12 disc 2 in and had a great listen to St Louis '69...cracked up hearing Jerry say "Ok we have to stop playing or the police will take our road manager to jail..." at the end of an aborted "Caution"...also the bonus stuff at the end of the show is a rehearsal of The Eleven & Duprees recorded at the Avalon...have to star ripping these discs back to a couple of externals I use now, 8 TB both...some fun

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Never in a million years would I have thought that some folks might construe my latest post to be some sort of clue regarding the identity of a box set or DaP31. My apologies, as I'd NEVER want to mislead, confuse or otherwise discombobulate any of the kind souls here on this forum (cough...cough).

But, of course, the post was a clue. Not for the aforementioned products people are breathlessly anticipating, but for a "What's Taking So Dang Long?" contest. Something to do as we all mill aimlessly around while DL casually looks at his watch and ponders the summertime flora and fauna of Vancouver Island.

A careful read of my last entry will reveal a specific venue and associated concert(s). The first person to post the correct answer will receive an assortment of GD-related goodies valued at more than $100, but less than $1 million. As a bonus, if you can name the song that was played for the first time at said show(s), I'll throw in some extra ephemera.

Only one guess per screen name (no screen names created after July 1, 2019). Just post your conjecture here, and the earliest correct answer will get the goods.

Cheers and good luck!

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Oooh...

I think it's Harding Theater, November 7, 1971 (and the previous night).

I wish I could hide away!

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Long time listener. First Time caller.

Going with:

06/03-04/76

Oregon - Paramount Theater

Mission in The Rain on 06/04

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I’m going to say the same answer as RoosSQ
However you’ll notice that my screen name was created before July 1st .
( happy to share my winnings though )

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I'm guessing the full Fillmore East run from 9/17/70-9/20/70, since "Till the Morning Comes" was first played on 9/18.
Though I could be wrong.
I mean, I usually am.
Until I'm not.
But even then just barely.
I'd dig a '76 box, but "September 70: Fillmore East the Complete Recordings" is my official guess.
Officially.

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12/26/70
12/27/70
12/28/70
Till the Morning Comes
1st time played
09/18/70
Last time played
12/26/70

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Everyone is guessing dates from 1970 for DaP #31 with the "Til the Morning Comes Line"....I seriously doubt it is from 1970, that's what DaP #30 was from!!?!!

Perhaps it's the Harding Theatre..

The Felt Forum is tucked away under MSG and sort of hidden in the bowels of the NY Subway. Not that I have ever gotten a single one of the bolo riddles so far...….

If we can believe Bolo.. this is not a clue to the next release, which probably means it will be Dave's Picks 31.

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It will be announced tomorrow and will be one of the 4th of July shows.

In my best Colbert voice,,,,, send me award!

Are they for the Box Set or DaP31? Or both?

Predictions:
DaP31 - 6/3/76 Paramount Theater - Portland, Or.
5 songs make their debut/1st performance:
1. Might As Well (opener)
2. Lazy Lightnin' >
3. Supplication (both middle of 1st set)
4. Samson And Delilah (2nd set opener)
5. The Wheel (encore)

I know it's not a favorite but I think this show has my favorite version of 'Looks Like Rain'…BW and DJG are spot-on with vocals and harmonies as JG 'rains' notes around them.

Box Set:
Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…the last thing they need is another box set sitting in their warehouse. If that happens we may only see box sets every 2 years?

Box Set Dark Horse:
December '69: 12/20, 12/21, 12/26, 12/28-12/31. Includes the legendary Ark run. It would also be the 1st time Rhino tied a Box Set and a DaP together: last shows of '69 and the 1st shows of '70.

I have no idea if the shows are in the vault but it would be a win-win either way!

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He said "under the bed" and what is under the bed? Box spring and flip it would mean a spring box (set). Or mabey not. I had to guess something. Talk about a shot in the dark.

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Why the fuggazi isn’t this show released?
Have never heard the Bob set, but if it’s Half as good as the JGB one with none other than Billy the K on the skins......

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Harding

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Sheesh. This contest was over almost before it started!

Congrats to Richard Torres, correctly guessing the Harding Theatre, two 1971 shows, Hide Away made its GD debut.

Send me your address via PM and I'll get you your box o' goodies. Unless you're the same Richard Torres from the NSA who oversaw the implantation of an evil minibot on my cerebral cortex during my first alien abduction. If you're that guy, forget I was even on here.

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Also i predict new box is portchester nov70 with pristine complete 48 track recording

And bonus show 11 20 70

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FYI all the nov 7th 1971 Harding show has been available on amazon now quite a while now ( in the uk anyway ) . Pleeeeaaaasssseeee can we have a uk/Europe distribution centre , otherwise any large box is a no no on account of getting absolutely stuffed with import tax . 🙀

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. . ..I can hear your voice.
It's cool shit like that that keeps me coming back...n

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