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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1341
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    Don't let this board tailspin again

    I bailed for quite a while because of the trivialness. In fairness, I contributed.

    You are squabbling over a small handful of the greatest bands to ever walk the planet. The three in question are in my top five. I happen to include Traffic, but nobody ever cares. All are good in their own way. But, none of us would be here without the GD. I doubt the ABB or Band boards are this active.

    For what it is worth, not right or wrong, I defer to folks who saw them live in the early years. In small venues. At their best.

    But it still won't change my opinion.

    Yeah, the Blues gotta pull this out. They let game 1 slip. To be honest, I am surprised they are tied.

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    First "rock" concert : Allman Bros. at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City, sometime around June 1974. Anybody there?
    Dad drove us 9th graders. no weed no nuthin'. A good time was had by all, dad copped himself a couple beers, and we all made it home safely by 4AM. Dead and Co. coming up: Anyone going to the Hollywood Bowl? I'll be the guy with the tie dye and the white gotee...you can't miss me!!!!

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    Saying stupid shit....

    ....maybe Butch was drunk. I know me, and drunk me says/texts some stupid shit that makes next day sober me do a good ole fashioned facepalm.
    St. Louis has, HAS to beat Beantown tonight otherwise it's all uphill from here....
    ABB isn't even in my top 20 bands. And I only have one beer under my belt, so it's legit. Only saw them once. Rusted Root opened. Thought they were better.....don't throw stuff at me.
    The thread took a downward turn Oro, because Butch pretty much said Bill the Drummer and Mickey suck. And the heads responded. Oh well. Second beer cracked. I better stfu. Anyone got a grilled cheese sandwich? Two bucks.
    ....edit. I've read a few band biographies, and there's usually a douchebag that screws it all up. I've never read anything of a Grateful Dead member being one. (maybe Phil after the fact. Maybe). Put that in your pipe and smoke the fuck out of it.
    "Screaming and yelling he was licking his chops."

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    Nice post. I’m not sure how the thread took the downward turn it did? Those three bands were my favorites also, and probably still are...I just always felt like the ABB didn’t need? no that’s not it?...it just sometimes seemed like their drummers played the exact same thing a lot, where B&M not so much? Anyway, just thought Butchs dig was ironic imho.
    Never heard much negative from the Dead about the ABB, but unfortunately over the years can’t say the same about the Brothers. But hey, we all say stupid shit, and as I’ve said before, I try to like my musicians, atheletes, politicians, hell anyone who’s supposed to be professional, I try to like them for what they do more than who they are. Only cause that’s they way I want people to treat me at work.
    Did not mean to, hopefully didn’t, diss the band at all. Like everyone else some years/bands were better than others, GD included.
    Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see the ABB until the late seventies or early eighties. But it was the Warren/Woody years that first blew me away the most.(obviously not including the original line up albums ).
    Man the Dead, The Brothers, and Santana were all having great resurgences during that late 80s, early 90s. Even saw the Brothers and Santana at Woodstock 94. The Band I first saw in the early 80s at the old Buffalo Train station, and yea no Robbie, but we didnt care. Saw them 84 in Rochester at the Summer party tent and it was one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to!!
    Actually was fortunate to do Merch with them for some of the 90s shows, and ended up going to Chicago 95 at the last minute because of our Band connections/lamies etc. That’s what got us in, backstage, and we got to hang on the stage during the bands set. Everyone from the Dead except Jerry was up onstage watching them. Bob was standing right behind us. But of course, as soon as the Band was done they shagged our asses right off! Worked a couple tours with them in 96. They were all awesome, but from the very first time I met Rick Danko, man what a nice soul. Would always come over and say hi, sometimes right out to the booth, he'd walk over and shake your hand and say how great it was that you were there, just so nice.
    If all you had on a desert island was some stuff from those three bands, I think you’d be 👍

    I can’t imagine seeing the Glen show! I mean I’m sure the nasty conditions were ruff, but back when I was young, if I could have seen those three at once like that, phew!

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    ABB Fox Box warning

    Personally, I love the ABB - but the ABB Fox Box recorded in Atlanta at the Fox Theatre, 9/24-26/2004 has the audience singing along with every classic song....ugh. Did this go down at later GD shows? Might as well breakout a Kumbaya encore! Then again, maybe I'm just an old grouchy bastard

    All these years later and Bill Graham is still right - the GD were the only ones that did what they did. I think the ABB was close as anyone got. Maybe I've missed some one. I think most bands saw themselves as putting on a show and did the same show every night....charge on stage to great applause, hit all the notes, you know. It can be a great show, but you don't need to see it more than once. That's my 2 cents for today

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    anniversary of

    5/29/71

    really good show

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    I remember my sister got to go the ABB in Madison WI back in 79

    I was jealous.

    ABB in 91 at the Gorge was great
    also the ABB opened for The Dead in 09 at the Gorge
    and attended ABB in Woodinville WA in ??

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    "rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make you strut"

    thank you Lemmy

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    hendrixfreak is an ABB freak, just sayin'!

    Sorry to hear the ABB bashing or, at least, the ennui. But to each his or her own.

    I heard them live in June '71 over the radio during the closing of the Fillmore East, then got the FE double album. By 1972, my triumvirate were the GD, ABB and The Band. I find it interesting that that's still the case, 47 years later. I should add that I consider Jimi in a category by himself. And I'm a huge fan of the Three Kings (Albert, BB and Freddie) and their cousin, Buddy Guy. I won't type a complete list, but I'm also a major Roy Buchanan fan. But among rock bands, I had only three top choices, and lived in a time when I saw a shitload of all of them in their heyday or nearly so.

    I caught ABB with the GD several times 6/9, 7/27, 7/28/73 and at Madison Square Garden in May '73, then again with the Derek/Warren lineup, ~1999-2009 (all at Red Rocks, almost always first 3 rows, center). A truly magnificent band of improvisers; the GD had nothing on them. Just two different flavors. Yes, the GD took more chances. But if you listen to the Duane era (two Jan '71 sets forthcoming this year, woo-hoo!), he pushed that band until it at times sound like Cream. I'm thinking of the official bootlegs series shows from '70 and '71.

    Consider how psyched me and my buddies were when we heard of the Watkins Glen lineup! I'd already seen the GD 9-19-72 and 6-9-73 and the ABB in May '73. Our three best bands on the same stage! And a chance, finally, to see The Band. Great two days of music. (Plus mud, mescaline and blotter. No food to speak of.)

    Then, incredibly, two days later, we caught the GD and The Band two nights at Roosevelt Stadium. (I caught The Band again on its final tour in '76, when they rocked the New York Palladium so hard that the balcony was in physical flux. I wondered at that time whether it had been designed for so much stress, but I didn't move from my standing position at my seat.)

    All before turning 16. I caught the GD again that September '73. As a freshly minted 16 yr old, I already considered myself a GD veteran.

    I guess the ABB and The Band are nearly as burned into my DNA as the GD.

    Anyhow, like someone said, Butch said some nasty things. But forgiveness and understanding wipe away any ill will for me. I too have lamented that Mickey moved from really sensitive synchro'd drumming and percussion in his heyday to the "sneakers in a dryer" approach post-hiatus, which clodded up the sound, though I still enjoyed every Red Rocks show they ever played, plus Folsom Field, Telluride, etc. etc.

    So I'm just raising the ABB flag over my pointy little head. If they're not your thang, so be it. But I've never seen a band quite like them and never will again. RIP Duane, Berry, Gregg, Butch.

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    What are you guys smoking? 6/9&10/73? I have almost given up hope.. but with all this talk of the Brothers, that would be something.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Duece on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:31

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I know this might be a reach, but maybe it is a Chicago run. He referenced High Fidelity which was a movie based in Chicago, and Til the morning comes was not only a Dead song but a Peter Cetera song and as we all know he is was in Chicago. Now what Chicago run could it be?

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Submitted by Duece on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:39

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I’m going on record and say it is 3 last shows Brent played. 07/21/90, 07/22/90, and 07/23/90. Played at Tinsley Park (Chicago) with a Queen Jane on night one.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:45

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I’m currently listening to 7-21-90 and He’s Gone is just finishing.

Sadly, no hula hoops.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:48

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Fuck that reCRAPTCHA shit.

My previous post required around 20 reCRAPTCHA screens.
This past weekend I ended up just deleting a post because the reCRAPTCHA wouldn’t end.

If TPTB are trying to dissuade us from posting on this site, they may end up getting their wish.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:49

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A while back I was thinking it might a box of Uptown Theater shows.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 19:46

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I was thinking it might be a 69 show but I don't think TPTB would release a 69 show right after releasing a 70 show. Now if it's a Chicago show I'd go with 1/30/78, 1/31/78 or 2/1/78 the reason being that it's been awhile since we had an official release from 1978.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 01:53

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Hit me like a diamond bullet in the brain-its 1976, surely. The reference to putting the Dead cds away for a while, to take them out when the morning comes could be a reference to their sabbatical at the end of 1974, and subsequent re-emergence in 76. Taking into account the fact that there hasn't been proper 76 box yet-a couple of Dicks Picks were 4 cd 2 show sets - then this seems most likely. I would prefer Fall 1972-but I can't see it myself.

For all fans of the post Syd, pre Dark Side Floyd, I would recommend the new remaster of Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. Its part of the new box set, but all the studio albums have been released individually. They are as cheap as chips and this one, the best of the bunch, sounds amazing. They seemed to me to take the space music Pink Floyd played as a basis for their own development. Mainly electronic keyboards, but you can't dance to it.

Whoops, I've got that "I'm not a robot thing" to do now. Maybe they think my post is potentially subversive.

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 02:35

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I think you might be onto something Daverock. Also, from the first Bolo clue:
"Trapped....from earth......for what seemed like a decade......." "grace of God" "good to be back although my soul is still drained and weakened"

the decade= 65-75, grace of God = Blues for Allah

I'd love a 76 box. I've been listening to a lot of 76 lately. The instrumental blend is so perfect, really as good as pre-hiatus.

Happy 4th folks! I'd love to tag along with you, in spirit, HF on the Yampa! I'll be quiet, (in spirit), and you won't even notice I'm there.... it looks wonderful!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 04:00

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...good morning my brothers & sisters out there in DeadLand...concerning Bolo’s last post/clue, it’s the next Daves Pick, #31, if I read it correctly?!
Have a grateful day everyone, and have a Happy Holiday 4th July, be safe be alive and rock on !!! God bless.
🙏❤️🤠

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 04:56

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...I’d like More 1979 please, Ill take my 3 sugars and cream with coffee,lol!
Also some 70’-72’, 76’, 82’-89’ or 90’-94’ would be welcomed as well, as long as the “Audio Quality” is Primo! 😉 which is my top priority for a Full Performance vs a Compilation Piece like the ‘Road Trip Series’...who am I kid’n, I love it all, “feed me Seymour!” Lol ha ha...

Been listen’n & enjoying my, ‘Fillmore West 1969’ boxset, my favorite boxset Release to date, for now...
peace be with you all my fellow brothers & sisters. Long live the Grateful Dead! 🙏❤️💀

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 06:18

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high fidelity would mean that the shows were recorded to reel to reel.

2-track or multi-track recordings or both. That should narrow it down a bit.

Edit:

Looks like it's Betty Boards from '76 along with 7/18/76.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 08:49

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First off, let the guy hang here without projecting his comments as clues. Okay, but because his subject line was about our patiently waiting -- a kind but total mis-read, this place is getting hot -- I put my naivete aside and join the speculation.

I don't have much, and he leaves us wondering if he's taunting about DaP 31 or the new box, but...

"every once in a while" could be completed as "get shown the light," a reference to Scarlet Begonias? "Under the bed" (no one puts their GD CDs on the floor under the bed, Bolo has book and CD shelves) ... probably means something. And "til the morning comes" could be a reference to when Morning Dew arrives. (Any shows with Scarlet and Dew?) Also, his line breaks are suspicious -- inviting a naive idjit like me to seek a pattern.

Goddammit Bolo, ya got me going again. Well played!

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 09:04

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from underneath a bedroom cabinet and it has my Download series CD's ...I had lost the files due to an HD crash so yes yes and yes...threw Vol 12 disc 2 in and had a great listen to St Louis '69...cracked up hearing Jerry say "Ok we have to stop playing or the police will take our road manager to jail..." at the end of an aborted "Caution"...also the bonus stuff at the end of the show is a rehearsal of The Eleven & Duprees recorded at the Avalon...have to star ripping these discs back to a couple of externals I use now, 8 TB both...some fun

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 09:33

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Never in a million years would I have thought that some folks might construe my latest post to be some sort of clue regarding the identity of a box set or DaP31. My apologies, as I'd NEVER want to mislead, confuse or otherwise discombobulate any of the kind souls here on this forum (cough...cough).

But, of course, the post was a clue. Not for the aforementioned products people are breathlessly anticipating, but for a "What's Taking So Dang Long?" contest. Something to do as we all mill aimlessly around while DL casually looks at his watch and ponders the summertime flora and fauna of Vancouver Island.

A careful read of my last entry will reveal a specific venue and associated concert(s). The first person to post the correct answer will receive an assortment of GD-related goodies valued at more than $100, but less than $1 million. As a bonus, if you can name the song that was played for the first time at said show(s), I'll throw in some extra ephemera.

Only one guess per screen name (no screen names created after July 1, 2019). Just post your conjecture here, and the earliest correct answer will get the goods.

Cheers and good luck!

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Submitted by RichardTorres on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 09:56

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Oooh...

I think it's Harding Theater, November 7, 1971 (and the previous night).

I wish I could hide away!

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Submitted by RoosSQ on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 10:10

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Long time listener. First Time caller.

Going with:

06/03-04/76

Oregon - Paramount Theater

Mission in The Rain on 06/04

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Submitted by perithecat on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 11:07

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I’m going to say the same answer as RoosSQ
However you’ll notice that my screen name was created before July 1st .
( happy to share my winnings though )

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Submitted by SkullTrip on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 11:08

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I'm guessing the full Fillmore East run from 9/17/70-9/20/70, since "Till the Morning Comes" was first played on 9/18.
Though I could be wrong.
I mean, I usually am.
Until I'm not.
But even then just barely.
I'd dig a '76 box, but "September 70: Fillmore East the Complete Recordings" is my official guess.
Officially.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 12:24

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12/26/70
12/27/70
12/28/70
Till the Morning Comes
1st time played
09/18/70
Last time played
12/26/70

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Submitted by RV3 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 12:38

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Everyone is guessing dates from 1970 for DaP #31 with the "Til the Morning Comes Line"....I seriously doubt it is from 1970, that's what DaP #30 was from!!?!!

Perhaps it's the Harding Theatre..

The Felt Forum is tucked away under MSG and sort of hidden in the bowels of the NY Subway. Not that I have ever gotten a single one of the bolo riddles so far...….

If we can believe Bolo.. this is not a clue to the next release, which probably means it will be Dave's Picks 31.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 16:20

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It will be announced tomorrow and will be one of the 4th of July shows.

In my best Colbert voice,,,,, send me award!

Are they for the Box Set or DaP31? Or both?

Predictions:
DaP31 - 6/3/76 Paramount Theater - Portland, Or.
5 songs make their debut/1st performance:
1. Might As Well (opener)
2. Lazy Lightnin' >
3. Supplication (both middle of 1st set)
4. Samson And Delilah (2nd set opener)
5. The Wheel (encore)

I know it's not a favorite but I think this show has my favorite version of 'Looks Like Rain'…BW and DJG are spot-on with vocals and harmonies as JG 'rains' notes around them.

Box Set:
Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…the last thing they need is another box set sitting in their warehouse. If that happens we may only see box sets every 2 years?

Box Set Dark Horse:
December '69: 12/20, 12/21, 12/26, 12/28-12/31. Includes the legendary Ark run. It would also be the 1st time Rhino tied a Box Set and a DaP together: last shows of '69 and the 1st shows of '70.

I have no idea if the shows are in the vault but it would be a win-win either way!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 18:08

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He said "under the bed" and what is under the bed? Box spring and flip it would mean a spring box (set). Or mabey not. I had to guess something. Talk about a shot in the dark.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 18:21

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Why the fuggazi isn’t this show released?
Have never heard the Bob set, but if it’s Half as good as the JGB one with none other than Billy the K on the skins......

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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 18:57

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Harding

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 20:36

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Sheesh. This contest was over almost before it started!

Congrats to Richard Torres, correctly guessing the Harding Theatre, two 1971 shows, Hide Away made its GD debut.

Send me your address via PM and I'll get you your box o' goodies. Unless you're the same Richard Torres from the NSA who oversaw the implantation of an evil minibot on my cerebral cortex during my first alien abduction. If you're that guy, forget I was even on here.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 23:15

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Also i predict new box is portchester nov70 with pristine complete 48 track recording

And bonus show 11 20 70

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Submitted by perithecat on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 23:35

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FYI all the nov 7th 1971 Harding show has been available on amazon now quite a while now ( in the uk anyway ) . Pleeeeaaaasssseeee can we have a uk/Europe distribution centre , otherwise any large box is a no no on account of getting absolutely stuffed with import tax . 🙀

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/04/2019 - 00:37

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It's cool shit like that that keeps me coming back...n

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