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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    Bummer, yea, that would haunt me for sure. Sorta understandable considering the context. Though did you hitch from Colorado and back? 1) good lord that must’ve been something in itself, and 2) if so, why go all that way for one show?
    Personally, only a couple that I missed that I really regret;
    10/26/89; had tix for both Miami shows and Philly, but couldn't swing Miami after guerrilla Hampton run, so sold Miami tix, Doooooo! Missing that Dark Star will always bum me out.
    3/26/88: only show I ever went to that I didn’t get in. So missed out double that night; not only the show with the only Stir It Up (hell any Hampton show I was at was a good one, perhaps my favorite indoor venue!), but also the great party in the lot across the street....I guess they had decent speakers set up and Healy was doing the FM thing then, so I heard it was quite the party! We had gone to visit friends staying elsewhere that also were shut out and when we returned to the Red Roof and heard we missed out AGAIN! we were truly bummed. That didn’t last long as the next night was “primo”...
    Had to sell tix to 6/28/88 off of that tour as I had to have upper GI and testing done at hospital, long strange saga there...sold tix to the 87 Wooooster shows, but we had done 8 previous and were, burnt, sorta broke, and honestly just not feeling it that much. Perhaps another 3 or 4 that I “should of” but that’s easy to say now, situationally, back then there were reasons though. But really just the 2 Miami and Hampton that I will always regret!

    73 RFK box: suppose Dead only sets would be ok if part of some other shows from that tour?
    Hell they could throw in that third set as a bonus if they ever do a Watkins Glen Box...(since you’d think that would entail the same logistical/legal BS)
    Don’t see a 73 Box in the near future though since their still selling PNW boxes....

    Dave’s 31 would be nice if he gave us that last unreleased 74 DS!

    Speaking of Boxes....WTF? You guys trying to kill us, we’re old and could die soon, where’s that box 😉

  • daverock
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    No doubt, you were young at a great time, musically, geographically, and pharmaceutically. In 1973 I was 16, but situated in the unlovely North West of England, with a soundtrack of Black Sabbath and Hawkwind . And washed down with great quantities of Newcastle Brown Ale. I wouldn't discover anything more exotic until I was 18. Still...being 16.....discovering live music....rock n' roll of whatever stripe-the walls of the city surely shake. Now as then.

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    my sympathies, Hendrixfreak

    i missed 6/26/94 after a lame-ass, wtf, 115 degrees Fahrenheit show on 6/25/94

    not nearly as comparable as 6/10/73. but hearing 6/26/94 on tape...I really wish that had been played on 6/25/94.

    I didn't get on the bus until 1982 (age 18), so I missed a whole lotta great shows.

  • stoltzfus
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    6/10/73 GD sets only?

    I am fine with that, especially if they release 6/9/73 with it.

  • hendrixfreak
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    the tragedy of 6-10-73

    If that subject line isn't click bait, I'm not a fisherman... (In fact, I'm generally not.) Anyhoo, there was a really good article (can't find the link, natch) on the efforts to release this show. As I recall, about five years ago, the GD had a package in which the best of both GD and ABB's performances from 6-9-73, 6-10-73, 7-27-73 and 7-28-73 were put together in a box set for sale. But it got the kibosh; probably too many decision makers (too many splits on the $$) and, one suspects, legalities. Personally, though I'd prefer all the shows intact, if it's nothing or a selection, I'd go with the highlights box.

    As to that tragedy... it's real, though the pain is somewhat muted at this point, 46 years later. 9 June 1973 was my second GD show. Me and a buddy caught a ride to DC Saturday morning and the GD opened, played all afternoon. We dosed. Temperatures probably 100 degrees. Little access to water. (A few water fountains for 20,000 people.) We retired to the shade of the stadium seats for the ABB, quite roasted in at least two senses of that word. The ABB came out and due to popping another blotter and the seats and shade and purple lights (and, oh yeah, very powerful music), the ABB just blew us (and the GD that afternoon) away. Must have been easier to get it on with the temperatures dropping and the mood picking up among the dusty denizens that had braved the sun for the GD. We slept on the grass outside the stadium that night, just t-shirts and jeans. Got up and with literally nothing in our pockets -- not a nickel, not a blotter, no nada -- we hitchhiked home. My godfather from Denver was visiting Sunday night (I loved him) and I had school the next day. Got fired from the HS varsity tennis team because I went to the GD show instead of a team party. (That was easy...) Mostly it was because we were 15 years old, penniless, exhausted, played out, with no conceivable plan for getting a ticket, eating, surviving. We'd never conceive of hanging out, asking for a free ticket. I'm still that way.

    Yes, you're reading the subtext correctly. We left on Sunday morning and that night the GD played an iconic set. Er, okay, three effin' iconic sets. I missed it.

    This type of experience, in a very small way, must have been common in those days. And I think the universality of my own experience among Deadheads led to the surge in the multi-night attendance strategy -- catch 'em all, cuz you never know when a hot one is coming. Still, I went on to catch Watkins Glen close up, two more nights of GD/The Band mere days later. (We learned mighty quick in those days.) And another GD show that September.

    I'll say this as a veteran, but with a little mischief in mind: six 1973 shows are worth 100 1980s shows, in terms of the "early" experience: the purity of the Purple Dragon, the expansive '73 sound, the band's evolution, the crowds, my youth. I never racked up big show numbers because how could that possibly matter? To me, the experience and what I learned would play out over years to come and that's what mattered.

    Still, we made sure we were onboard by '72, up front for Watkins Glen, and in attendance for every Red Rocks show -- not for the numbers, but if you live 20 minutes away, what the hell else are you going to do on a night when the GD are playing and all your friends are there? You go!

    These days the best I can do in terms of stamina of mind/soul is a two-nighter of Derek & Susan at the Rocks. (Yes! Only six weeks away!) As I age, I have growing crowd-tolerance issues, especially with the chattering youngsters, the phones, etc. OMG, I've entered the "Get Off M Lawn" zone!!

    Oh, what the hell. I started at 13 on live music with The Chambers Brothers in 1970 or '71, went on to the Byrds, New York Rock 'n Roll Ensemble, GD, ABB, The Band, Red Rocks in 1974, Clapton, Freddie King, BB King, Albert King, Jer band, Roy Buchanan, Santana, Bonnie Raitt, Robert Hunter... a zillion more, all in the '70s. No wonder I'm a bit crisp and cranky!

    So I missed one of the most iconic GD shows ever, one that opened with "Morning Dew." Big deal.

    Aaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    "too many Allmans"

    sounds like a TV show.

  • Lovemygirl
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    ...I’m with you my man! 1979 1979 1979!!!
    One of my favorite years of the Grateful Dead Performances...One word, ‘Oakland’, says it all.
    Boxset! Primo. Most welcomed and have been waiting for ages to be packaged & released with all it’s grateful glory! A place the Dead later called “their second Home”! Just think about what that word means my brothers & sisters, HOME. I can write an essay on my beliefs of what HOME really means but I’ve been told and asked by some members that I “Shouldn’t”and “Don’t” write long posts, so I’ll end my message here my brothers and sisters.
    Enjoyed ‘Dicks Picks #7, September 1974 early this morning. Recorded by Bill Candelario on September 9th,10th and 11th, 1974 at Alexandra Palace in London, England. Love it! Audio Mix is very grateful indeed, on my system. 😉 enjoyed every minute!
    Have a ‘grateful day’ everyone, peace be with you all! 🙏❤️😎
    *been listening to ‘Road Trips Volume 3 Number 1’ CD release. The ninth in the Dead’s "Road Trips" series, it was recorded on December 28th 1979, at the Oakland Auditorium in Oakland, California, and contains the complete performance. The bonus disc included with some copies of the album was recorded two nights later, on December 30th 1979, at the same venue. The album was released in 2009, I cant beive it’s been that long! Bring on some More 1979 !
    Another “Primo” show from this run of concerts is ‘Dick's Picks Volume 5’, It was recorded on December 26, 1979 at the Oakland Auditorium Arena. It was also the first release of a full concert to feature my man, keyboardist, Brent Mydland! And if that’s not good enough for some folks, we are lucky enough to have ‘Betty Cantor-Jackson’s’ recording of the Grateful Dead’s performance in the “Vault” and released to fans. This show has a Killer Setlist with an impressive and fun performance of ‘Shakedown Street’ for one of the encore songs, the other being ‘Uncle Johns Band’, another primo version of this beloved song! All this talk of Dicks Picks 5 has got my blood flowing, I know what I’m listing to next,lol. 😉 Sorry for the long post folks, take care & Rock On!

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    Would it be sacrilegious to suggest that they release it without the 3rd set, which was the only set, as far as I am aware, visited by Merl Saunders and members of the Allmans? Just going off what MLB said-if the logistics of releasing this show prove too difficult due to guests involvement, then maybe it would be better to release the portion of the show which didn't involve them. I accept that it wouldn't be ideal-but the heart of the set, for me, lies in the first two sets anyway.

  • Strider 808808
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    1984 the Hog Farm had a camp a mile from Red Rocks. How do I spell Wilde. 1985 I went to the Chief Hosa campground. I met the very awesome gals from Pine Ridge Rez with the graffiti Ford pick-up truck. So I wrote on the truck “see you at the League for Spiritual Discovery picnic, 8/8/88.
    First 45 disc in 1964; The Beatles , She Loves You
    First LP ; Beatles, Something New. 2nd LP , Meet the Beatles, 3rd LP, The Byrd’s , Turn Turn Turn
    4th LP Rolling Stones , Out Of Our Heads.
    Where’s my funking Funk & Wagnall damnit. I think I spelled it correctly this time.
    See you in Boulder. Will be wearing a Fillmore East ushers shirt. “Fall of the House of Usher”.
    It is true , hardly anybody wore tie die 45-50 years ago.

  • JimInMD
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    I hear you MLB.. and I sort of agree with you. But the other side of the coin is this is one of the truly great shows left in the cannon and most of the Allmans (and Merl) and previous managers, etc. have already passed.

    You have valid points and I always felt the same way, but like butter on a hot summer day I am beginning to soften. I think it's not if this will get released, it's when. I bet for every person that is hanging out there asking for different terms or a greater percentage there are three saying hell yes.. I will take what is "fair" but get this thing released so I can get something?

    Not if but when.. that's my position. It will happen, the red sea will be parted and it will get released. That's my opinion, as always I reserve the right to be belly-floppin' off the high dive wrong.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I know this might be a reach, but maybe it is a Chicago run. He referenced High Fidelity which was a movie based in Chicago, and Til the morning comes was not only a Dead song but a Peter Cetera song and as we all know he is was in Chicago. Now what Chicago run could it be?

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I’m going on record and say it is 3 last shows Brent played. 07/21/90, 07/22/90, and 07/23/90. Played at Tinsley Park (Chicago) with a Queen Jane on night one.

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I’m currently listening to 7-21-90 and He’s Gone is just finishing.

Sadly, no hula hoops.

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Fuck that reCRAPTCHA shit.

My previous post required around 20 reCRAPTCHA screens.
This past weekend I ended up just deleting a post because the reCRAPTCHA wouldn’t end.

If TPTB are trying to dissuade us from posting on this site, they may end up getting their wish.

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A while back I was thinking it might a box of Uptown Theater shows.

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I was thinking it might be a 69 show but I don't think TPTB would release a 69 show right after releasing a 70 show. Now if it's a Chicago show I'd go with 1/30/78, 1/31/78 or 2/1/78 the reason being that it's been awhile since we had an official release from 1978.

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Hit me like a diamond bullet in the brain-its 1976, surely. The reference to putting the Dead cds away for a while, to take them out when the morning comes could be a reference to their sabbatical at the end of 1974, and subsequent re-emergence in 76. Taking into account the fact that there hasn't been proper 76 box yet-a couple of Dicks Picks were 4 cd 2 show sets - then this seems most likely. I would prefer Fall 1972-but I can't see it myself.

For all fans of the post Syd, pre Dark Side Floyd, I would recommend the new remaster of Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. Its part of the new box set, but all the studio albums have been released individually. They are as cheap as chips and this one, the best of the bunch, sounds amazing. They seemed to me to take the space music Pink Floyd played as a basis for their own development. Mainly electronic keyboards, but you can't dance to it.

Whoops, I've got that "I'm not a robot thing" to do now. Maybe they think my post is potentially subversive.

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I think you might be onto something Daverock. Also, from the first Bolo clue:
"Trapped....from earth......for what seemed like a decade......." "grace of God" "good to be back although my soul is still drained and weakened"

the decade= 65-75, grace of God = Blues for Allah

I'd love a 76 box. I've been listening to a lot of 76 lately. The instrumental blend is so perfect, really as good as pre-hiatus.

Happy 4th folks! I'd love to tag along with you, in spirit, HF on the Yampa! I'll be quiet, (in spirit), and you won't even notice I'm there.... it looks wonderful!

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...good morning my brothers & sisters out there in DeadLand...concerning Bolo’s last post/clue, it’s the next Daves Pick, #31, if I read it correctly?!
Have a grateful day everyone, and have a Happy Holiday 4th July, be safe be alive and rock on !!! God bless.
🙏❤️🤠

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...I’d like More 1979 please, Ill take my 3 sugars and cream with coffee,lol!
Also some 70’-72’, 76’, 82’-89’ or 90’-94’ would be welcomed as well, as long as the “Audio Quality” is Primo! 😉 which is my top priority for a Full Performance vs a Compilation Piece like the ‘Road Trip Series’...who am I kid’n, I love it all, “feed me Seymour!” Lol ha ha...

Been listen’n & enjoying my, ‘Fillmore West 1969’ boxset, my favorite boxset Release to date, for now...
peace be with you all my fellow brothers & sisters. Long live the Grateful Dead! 🙏❤️💀

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high fidelity would mean that the shows were recorded to reel to reel.

2-track or multi-track recordings or both. That should narrow it down a bit.

Edit:

Looks like it's Betty Boards from '76 along with 7/18/76.

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First off, let the guy hang here without projecting his comments as clues. Okay, but because his subject line was about our patiently waiting -- a kind but total mis-read, this place is getting hot -- I put my naivete aside and join the speculation.

I don't have much, and he leaves us wondering if he's taunting about DaP 31 or the new box, but...

"every once in a while" could be completed as "get shown the light," a reference to Scarlet Begonias? "Under the bed" (no one puts their GD CDs on the floor under the bed, Bolo has book and CD shelves) ... probably means something. And "til the morning comes" could be a reference to when Morning Dew arrives. (Any shows with Scarlet and Dew?) Also, his line breaks are suspicious -- inviting a naive idjit like me to seek a pattern.

Goddammit Bolo, ya got me going again. Well played!

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from underneath a bedroom cabinet and it has my Download series CD's ...I had lost the files due to an HD crash so yes yes and yes...threw Vol 12 disc 2 in and had a great listen to St Louis '69...cracked up hearing Jerry say "Ok we have to stop playing or the police will take our road manager to jail..." at the end of an aborted "Caution"...also the bonus stuff at the end of the show is a rehearsal of The Eleven & Duprees recorded at the Avalon...have to star ripping these discs back to a couple of externals I use now, 8 TB both...some fun

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Never in a million years would I have thought that some folks might construe my latest post to be some sort of clue regarding the identity of a box set or DaP31. My apologies, as I'd NEVER want to mislead, confuse or otherwise discombobulate any of the kind souls here on this forum (cough...cough).

But, of course, the post was a clue. Not for the aforementioned products people are breathlessly anticipating, but for a "What's Taking So Dang Long?" contest. Something to do as we all mill aimlessly around while DL casually looks at his watch and ponders the summertime flora and fauna of Vancouver Island.

A careful read of my last entry will reveal a specific venue and associated concert(s). The first person to post the correct answer will receive an assortment of GD-related goodies valued at more than $100, but less than $1 million. As a bonus, if you can name the song that was played for the first time at said show(s), I'll throw in some extra ephemera.

Only one guess per screen name (no screen names created after July 1, 2019). Just post your conjecture here, and the earliest correct answer will get the goods.

Cheers and good luck!

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Oooh...

I think it's Harding Theater, November 7, 1971 (and the previous night).

I wish I could hide away!

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Long time listener. First Time caller.

Going with:

06/03-04/76

Oregon - Paramount Theater

Mission in The Rain on 06/04

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I’m going to say the same answer as RoosSQ
However you’ll notice that my screen name was created before July 1st .
( happy to share my winnings though )

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I'm guessing the full Fillmore East run from 9/17/70-9/20/70, since "Till the Morning Comes" was first played on 9/18.
Though I could be wrong.
I mean, I usually am.
Until I'm not.
But even then just barely.
I'd dig a '76 box, but "September 70: Fillmore East the Complete Recordings" is my official guess.
Officially.

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12/26/70
12/27/70
12/28/70
Till the Morning Comes
1st time played
09/18/70
Last time played
12/26/70

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Everyone is guessing dates from 1970 for DaP #31 with the "Til the Morning Comes Line"....I seriously doubt it is from 1970, that's what DaP #30 was from!!?!!

Perhaps it's the Harding Theatre..

The Felt Forum is tucked away under MSG and sort of hidden in the bowels of the NY Subway. Not that I have ever gotten a single one of the bolo riddles so far...….

If we can believe Bolo.. this is not a clue to the next release, which probably means it will be Dave's Picks 31.

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It will be announced tomorrow and will be one of the 4th of July shows.

In my best Colbert voice,,,,, send me award!

Are they for the Box Set or DaP31? Or both?

Predictions:
DaP31 - 6/3/76 Paramount Theater - Portland, Or.
5 songs make their debut/1st performance:
1. Might As Well (opener)
2. Lazy Lightnin' >
3. Supplication (both middle of 1st set)
4. Samson And Delilah (2nd set opener)
5. The Wheel (encore)

I know it's not a favorite but I think this show has my favorite version of 'Looks Like Rain'…BW and DJG are spot-on with vocals and harmonies as JG 'rains' notes around them.

Box Set:
Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…the last thing they need is another box set sitting in their warehouse. If that happens we may only see box sets every 2 years?

Box Set Dark Horse:
December '69: 12/20, 12/21, 12/26, 12/28-12/31. Includes the legendary Ark run. It would also be the 1st time Rhino tied a Box Set and a DaP together: last shows of '69 and the 1st shows of '70.

I have no idea if the shows are in the vault but it would be a win-win either way!

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He said "under the bed" and what is under the bed? Box spring and flip it would mean a spring box (set). Or mabey not. I had to guess something. Talk about a shot in the dark.

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Why the fuggazi isn’t this show released?
Have never heard the Bob set, but if it’s Half as good as the JGB one with none other than Billy the K on the skins......

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Harding

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Sheesh. This contest was over almost before it started!

Congrats to Richard Torres, correctly guessing the Harding Theatre, two 1971 shows, Hide Away made its GD debut.

Send me your address via PM and I'll get you your box o' goodies. Unless you're the same Richard Torres from the NSA who oversaw the implantation of an evil minibot on my cerebral cortex during my first alien abduction. If you're that guy, forget I was even on here.

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Also i predict new box is portchester nov70 with pristine complete 48 track recording

And bonus show 11 20 70

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FYI all the nov 7th 1971 Harding show has been available on amazon now quite a while now ( in the uk anyway ) . Pleeeeaaaasssseeee can we have a uk/Europe distribution centre , otherwise any large box is a no no on account of getting absolutely stuffed with import tax . 🙀

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. . ..I can hear your voice.
It's cool shit like that that keeps me coming back...n

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