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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #2371
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    you wrote: "I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc."

    Charlie, this is the hurdle that everybody has to get over in a technology shift. The mentality has always been about ownership.

    But gradually, people are going to streaming. Why? Let's say you spend $200 on a few CD's and special releases annually. But then you realize a service (Apple Music or whatever) costs $10 a month ($120/yr = 80 savings) for ALL of them PLUS ALMOST ALL THE OTHER MUSIC IN THE WORLD. You'll go broke trying to buy everything you want "a la carte". The streaming model is coming together folks, and it makes sense. Stay tuned.

    Buying DVD's and Blue Ray right now is like buying 8 track tapes in 1979. I did it! And 2 years later I felt like an idiot. And sure they work great if you' stay in 1979 forever. But then suddenly it's 1983 and YOU'RE the guy/gal still proudly "collecting" 8-track tapes while everyone goes to CD! Don't be that guy.

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    Good Evening Rockers!

    I've been keeping up with the E72 shows, so that's a good sign, but to be honest, it's always the May Dave's Picks that derails me.

    There's a huge gap between the 4/17 Tivoli show and the Rockin' The Rhein show of 4/24, so I've been wearing the shit out RTR. The Dark Star => Wharf Rat => Sugar Magnolia is really just something else altogether. I keep playing it over and over, trying to figure out the Dark Star. This medley is one of my favorite extended Dead pieces of all time.

    I think tomorrow I'll move on to Hundred Year Hall.

    Now it's time to switch over from E72 to something else. I'm avoiding 1970 for now, to keep that period pristine for "the arrival". Maybe I'll go with that great Playing In The Band from DaP 18. Or the DaP 17 second set medley would be kind of tasty - there's a really good Eyes of the World => China Doll on that one. Not to mention the WRS => Jam. Or do I just Go To Nassau and rock out to that killer Jack Straw => Franklin's Tower opening combo......

    CD guy here. Think of how boring release day would be with nothing to open.

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    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out…

    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out a Dave's Picks before you even ship it? Go out on a limb and produce 30,000 instead of 20,000. if you don't order it the day it is released, you can't get it. I'm tool old to chase this shit. I'll just download a bootleg, although I'd rather buy it from you. Only, you won't allow that to happen. Wisen up guys.

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    FTW and Dead & Co have made it possible for people who got into the music after Jerry died to experience the songs live.
    It’s not the same, but they never saw the real thing, and don’t have a standard to compare to. It’s still better than what else is on tour these days.
    This has brought in new recruits who also are buying releases (and scalpers too).
    Seems that CD sales, at least, will continue for a while.

    But I would still like some video too.

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    Whatever else is going on in the outside world, CDs are expanding in this niche market. Blu Ray disc sales might do ok here if the source quality were good, but as noted, all of the worthy candidates are available already. Sunshine Daydream, Movie Soundtrack, whatever else.

    CDs are on the rise here, and will at least plateau at 20K for awhile, if not rise some more next year. The completely unique selling opportunity of having so many otherwise unavailable shows in the Vault gives Rhino a marketing advantage to do the Limited Edition thing and collect $100 from almost 20K subscribers a year. It will take many more years for that number to go back down to 12,000, where it started. If 12,000 was good in 2012 then it will still be good 5 years from now, should the instant sellouts cease. It's the only place you can get it, and it's on CD in limited quantities. There would have to be a huge offer from some streaming company for Rhino to turn their back on this marketing schema. And I doubt that's going to happen, because the music still has to be engineered before it's ready for release.

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    I’m not always in front of the TV while they are playing, but I can still hear them.
    Being able to see the TV from the kitchen is also key, you can listen while you cook and occasionally look at the TV.

    I watch less than 10 Hollywood movies per year, and rarely current releases.
    I try to watch Strange Brew and Big Lebowski at least once a year, both of which I have on DVD.

    But concert video, I watch that a lot.
    Just watched Hard Working Americans - First Waltz this weekend.

    I have Sunshine Daydream on DVD and Blu Ray, the BR has higher resolution audio, which is reason right there to put stuff out on BR.

  • #2377
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    Live streams - sometimes (if it’s free), I think that the only time I paid for a live stream was FTW 6-27-15 and it kept freezing/buffering.
    My BR/DVD player doesn’t freeze/buffer. I also don’t need an internet connection to watch discs.

    I did watch the two WSP free streams this weekend at Sweetwater 420 Fest. No freezing with that.

    I do watch YouTube concert videos on my TV (using the home theater for sound) to check out other bands besides GD. The recent discussions of Spirit sent me looking for video and the Rockpalast show was great. Then Daverock and Simonrob informed us that a bunch of Rockpalast shows were on DVD, which some people were happy to know about.

    As far as GD, yes I want video on physical media, just like the audio.

    Yes, a lot of people in the general population stream. In fact, several companies are betting big time on that being the future, as well as streaming audio.

    How many people on this site want future Dead releases to be stream only?

    Jim,
    The John Deere is looking good. You must have parked it indoors over the winter and then gave it a wash/wax.

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    it's hard to find the TIME to sit down to enjoy a show on video, and with my two non-Deadhead loved ones at home...

    gimme CDs because I can take them in my car, to various places in the house, etc.

    I would love to revisit the DVD of Closing of Winterland, but I would need the house to myself for 6+ hours.

    Someday, my lads...someday.

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    I think I'm in the minority, but I have a really hard time watching the dead in concert on a tv screen. The Grateful Dead movie was really cool but I have a hard time lasting long with videos like Alpine or any of the Meet Up events. Couple songs at the most. I can't even do couch tour. Different strokes I guess...

    Thin and others are correct - most people aren't buying DVDs or CDs. People are streaming their shows and music, choosing to listen or watch what they want, when they want it. If Dave is talking about different formats, he almost certainly is referring to streaming, whether it be on your phone, computer or TV.

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    Nice little show from this day...

    https://archive.org/details/gd1986-04-22.sbd.miller.34767.flac16/gd86-0…

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Duece on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:31

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I know this might be a reach, but maybe it is a Chicago run. He referenced High Fidelity which was a movie based in Chicago, and Til the morning comes was not only a Dead song but a Peter Cetera song and as we all know he is was in Chicago. Now what Chicago run could it be?

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Submitted by Duece on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:39

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I’m going on record and say it is 3 last shows Brent played. 07/21/90, 07/22/90, and 07/23/90. Played at Tinsley Park (Chicago) with a Queen Jane on night one.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:45

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I’m currently listening to 7-21-90 and He’s Gone is just finishing.

Sadly, no hula hoops.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:48

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Fuck that reCRAPTCHA shit.

My previous post required around 20 reCRAPTCHA screens.
This past weekend I ended up just deleting a post because the reCRAPTCHA wouldn’t end.

If TPTB are trying to dissuade us from posting on this site, they may end up getting their wish.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 18:49

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A while back I was thinking it might a box of Uptown Theater shows.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Tue, 07/02/2019 - 19:46

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I was thinking it might be a 69 show but I don't think TPTB would release a 69 show right after releasing a 70 show. Now if it's a Chicago show I'd go with 1/30/78, 1/31/78 or 2/1/78 the reason being that it's been awhile since we had an official release from 1978.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 01:53

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Hit me like a diamond bullet in the brain-its 1976, surely. The reference to putting the Dead cds away for a while, to take them out when the morning comes could be a reference to their sabbatical at the end of 1974, and subsequent re-emergence in 76. Taking into account the fact that there hasn't been proper 76 box yet-a couple of Dicks Picks were 4 cd 2 show sets - then this seems most likely. I would prefer Fall 1972-but I can't see it myself.

For all fans of the post Syd, pre Dark Side Floyd, I would recommend the new remaster of Phaedra by Tangerine Dream. Its part of the new box set, but all the studio albums have been released individually. They are as cheap as chips and this one, the best of the bunch, sounds amazing. They seemed to me to take the space music Pink Floyd played as a basis for their own development. Mainly electronic keyboards, but you can't dance to it.

Whoops, I've got that "I'm not a robot thing" to do now. Maybe they think my post is potentially subversive.

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 02:35

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I think you might be onto something Daverock. Also, from the first Bolo clue:
"Trapped....from earth......for what seemed like a decade......." "grace of God" "good to be back although my soul is still drained and weakened"

the decade= 65-75, grace of God = Blues for Allah

I'd love a 76 box. I've been listening to a lot of 76 lately. The instrumental blend is so perfect, really as good as pre-hiatus.

Happy 4th folks! I'd love to tag along with you, in spirit, HF on the Yampa! I'll be quiet, (in spirit), and you won't even notice I'm there.... it looks wonderful!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 04:00

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...good morning my brothers & sisters out there in DeadLand...concerning Bolo’s last post/clue, it’s the next Daves Pick, #31, if I read it correctly?!
Have a grateful day everyone, and have a Happy Holiday 4th July, be safe be alive and rock on !!! God bless.
🙏❤️🤠

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 04:56

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...I’d like More 1979 please, Ill take my 3 sugars and cream with coffee,lol!
Also some 70’-72’, 76’, 82’-89’ or 90’-94’ would be welcomed as well, as long as the “Audio Quality” is Primo! 😉 which is my top priority for a Full Performance vs a Compilation Piece like the ‘Road Trip Series’...who am I kid’n, I love it all, “feed me Seymour!” Lol ha ha...

Been listen’n & enjoying my, ‘Fillmore West 1969’ boxset, my favorite boxset Release to date, for now...
peace be with you all my fellow brothers & sisters. Long live the Grateful Dead! 🙏❤️💀

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 06:18

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high fidelity would mean that the shows were recorded to reel to reel.

2-track or multi-track recordings or both. That should narrow it down a bit.

Edit:

Looks like it's Betty Boards from '76 along with 7/18/76.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 08:49

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First off, let the guy hang here without projecting his comments as clues. Okay, but because his subject line was about our patiently waiting -- a kind but total mis-read, this place is getting hot -- I put my naivete aside and join the speculation.

I don't have much, and he leaves us wondering if he's taunting about DaP 31 or the new box, but...

"every once in a while" could be completed as "get shown the light," a reference to Scarlet Begonias? "Under the bed" (no one puts their GD CDs on the floor under the bed, Bolo has book and CD shelves) ... probably means something. And "til the morning comes" could be a reference to when Morning Dew arrives. (Any shows with Scarlet and Dew?) Also, his line breaks are suspicious -- inviting a naive idjit like me to seek a pattern.

Goddammit Bolo, ya got me going again. Well played!

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 09:04

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from underneath a bedroom cabinet and it has my Download series CD's ...I had lost the files due to an HD crash so yes yes and yes...threw Vol 12 disc 2 in and had a great listen to St Louis '69...cracked up hearing Jerry say "Ok we have to stop playing or the police will take our road manager to jail..." at the end of an aborted "Caution"...also the bonus stuff at the end of the show is a rehearsal of The Eleven & Duprees recorded at the Avalon...have to star ripping these discs back to a couple of externals I use now, 8 TB both...some fun

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 09:33

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Never in a million years would I have thought that some folks might construe my latest post to be some sort of clue regarding the identity of a box set or DaP31. My apologies, as I'd NEVER want to mislead, confuse or otherwise discombobulate any of the kind souls here on this forum (cough...cough).

But, of course, the post was a clue. Not for the aforementioned products people are breathlessly anticipating, but for a "What's Taking So Dang Long?" contest. Something to do as we all mill aimlessly around while DL casually looks at his watch and ponders the summertime flora and fauna of Vancouver Island.

A careful read of my last entry will reveal a specific venue and associated concert(s). The first person to post the correct answer will receive an assortment of GD-related goodies valued at more than $100, but less than $1 million. As a bonus, if you can name the song that was played for the first time at said show(s), I'll throw in some extra ephemera.

Only one guess per screen name (no screen names created after July 1, 2019). Just post your conjecture here, and the earliest correct answer will get the goods.

Cheers and good luck!

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Submitted by RichardTorres on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 09:56

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Oooh...

I think it's Harding Theater, November 7, 1971 (and the previous night).

I wish I could hide away!

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Submitted by RoosSQ on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 10:10

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Long time listener. First Time caller.

Going with:

06/03-04/76

Oregon - Paramount Theater

Mission in The Rain on 06/04

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Submitted by perithecat on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 11:07

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I’m going to say the same answer as RoosSQ
However you’ll notice that my screen name was created before July 1st .
( happy to share my winnings though )

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Submitted by SkullTrip on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 11:08

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I'm guessing the full Fillmore East run from 9/17/70-9/20/70, since "Till the Morning Comes" was first played on 9/18.
Though I could be wrong.
I mean, I usually am.
Until I'm not.
But even then just barely.
I'd dig a '76 box, but "September 70: Fillmore East the Complete Recordings" is my official guess.
Officially.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 12:24

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12/26/70
12/27/70
12/28/70
Till the Morning Comes
1st time played
09/18/70
Last time played
12/26/70

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Submitted by RV3 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 12:38

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Everyone is guessing dates from 1970 for DaP #31 with the "Til the Morning Comes Line"....I seriously doubt it is from 1970, that's what DaP #30 was from!!?!!

Perhaps it's the Harding Theatre..

The Felt Forum is tucked away under MSG and sort of hidden in the bowels of the NY Subway. Not that I have ever gotten a single one of the bolo riddles so far...….

If we can believe Bolo.. this is not a clue to the next release, which probably means it will be Dave's Picks 31.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 16:20

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It will be announced tomorrow and will be one of the 4th of July shows.

In my best Colbert voice,,,,, send me award!

Are they for the Box Set or DaP31? Or both?

Predictions:
DaP31 - 6/3/76 Paramount Theater - Portland, Or.
5 songs make their debut/1st performance:
1. Might As Well (opener)
2. Lazy Lightnin' >
3. Supplication (both middle of 1st set)
4. Samson And Delilah (2nd set opener)
5. The Wheel (encore)

I know it's not a favorite but I think this show has my favorite version of 'Looks Like Rain'…BW and DJG are spot-on with vocals and harmonies as JG 'rains' notes around them.

Box Set:
Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…the last thing they need is another box set sitting in their warehouse. If that happens we may only see box sets every 2 years?

Box Set Dark Horse:
December '69: 12/20, 12/21, 12/26, 12/28-12/31. Includes the legendary Ark run. It would also be the 1st time Rhino tied a Box Set and a DaP together: last shows of '69 and the 1st shows of '70.

I have no idea if the shows are in the vault but it would be a win-win either way!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 18:08

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He said "under the bed" and what is under the bed? Box spring and flip it would mean a spring box (set). Or mabey not. I had to guess something. Talk about a shot in the dark.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 18:21

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Why the fuggazi isn’t this show released?
Have never heard the Bob set, but if it’s Half as good as the JGB one with none other than Billy the K on the skins......

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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 18:57

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Harding

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 20:36

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Sheesh. This contest was over almost before it started!

Congrats to Richard Torres, correctly guessing the Harding Theatre, two 1971 shows, Hide Away made its GD debut.

Send me your address via PM and I'll get you your box o' goodies. Unless you're the same Richard Torres from the NSA who oversaw the implantation of an evil minibot on my cerebral cortex during my first alien abduction. If you're that guy, forget I was even on here.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 23:15

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Also i predict new box is portchester nov70 with pristine complete 48 track recording

And bonus show 11 20 70

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Submitted by perithecat on Wed, 07/03/2019 - 23:35

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FYI all the nov 7th 1971 Harding show has been available on amazon now quite a while now ( in the uk anyway ) . Pleeeeaaaasssseeee can we have a uk/Europe distribution centre , otherwise any large box is a no no on account of getting absolutely stuffed with import tax . 🙀

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/04/2019 - 00:37

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. . ..I can hear your voice.
It's cool shit like that that keeps me coming back...n

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