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    Interesting to note the divergence of opinion....
    On people being unknowingly given drugs at shows. I'm clearly in favor of choice. However, the people offering may have had a good heart and motivation , perhaps caught up in nostalgia. Their decision was inappropriate. Food is food, Drurgs are drugs..
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    there is a pretty wide range of sophistication or lack thereof in Dead Head crowds and it's not reasonable to expect everyone there to have street smarts (but then, I view "prankster" behavior of this sort as assault, pretty much. Calling yourself a prankster is no excuse for wantonly messing with the sanity of strangers any more than it's an excuse for driving drunk). And somehow I doubt the person who passed this stuff out at the Wharf Rat table was forthcoming about the contents, and to hand the stuff to known Wharf Rats is beyond nasty. All else aside, this sort of shit destroys the mutual trust that in my lowly opinion is about the most precious commodity that Dead Head audiences have over the rest of the world. I can't count the number of times I've shared food and drink with strangers in line or at shows, and I never poisoned them and they never poisoned me. I think that's how it should be. Yes, you have to be responsible for yourself, but you shouldn't have to go to a Dead show with your armor on either. Choosing to dose is one thing, and God bless you. But it's not a choice you get to make for other people in my opinion.
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    I'm not condoning dosing of the unwitting, but this was at a Furthur show, which is known by many to be a psychedelic scene (never trust a prankster, right?), so folks should be on their toes about this sort of thing, but even if they aren't knowledgeable about what to expect at a Furthur show, then there's always the conventional wisdom found in the subject line of this post. And for the record, I've been alcohol-free for almost 20 years, and the last GD shows that I attended, I did so as a Wharf Rat. Again, I'm not condoning dosing, but I will make some noise about people taking responsibility for themselves, which is one of the main things that I've learned in recovery from alcohol and hard dope.
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    My point, at least
    is that reports indicate that not all people who ate the chocolates were doing so as an informed choice of what they were getting, and having personally known someone who was really messed up for a long time by being unknowingly dosed with who knows what at a show, I'm pretty strongly of the belief that dosing people without their knowledge and consent is pretty vicious.
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    Chocolate items
    Friday at Redrocks, a friend of mine thinks he may have been dosed unknowingly (beer cup ?). Saturday, a friendly blond woman, 30-ish, offered neatly packaged rectangular chocolate bars including mushroom ingredients. She also offered round cups, in green foil wrap, similar to a peanut butter cup. I don't believe she'd have purposely given one to someone without the recipient knowing what the "candy" really was, I stuck with the Dale's Pale ale...
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    Think the point
    Is that you always are offered the choice to get high, it is never presented unannounced. Especially these latter days. There is a lot more acid around again.
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    Think the point
    Is that you always are offered the choice to get high, it is never presented unannounced. Especially these latter days. There is a lot more acid around again.
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    Hey Hal !
    Mary & I were at those Fri & Sat Red Rocks as well.You are in for a treat, my brother Furthur has accelerated to warp speed. And don't forget to fasten your seat belt. Best to you and Deb and enjoy the ride. I predict a Furthur treat in your future. Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
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    What's your point?
    I was approached by the person offering chocolates: I declined. If you don't want them, don't eat them.
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    mona Offline passing it on Sunday night at Red Rocks, 2 wrats were offered chocolate that was packaged in a commercial way,while they were standing at the table. this happened right before the set break meeting. They examined it and ate it and the guy who gave it to them said nothing and walked away. This is a horrible thing to happen to someone in recovery, let alone anyone! Even with people who are using, proper "drug edicate", is always to ask if the person wants to dose. It was an extremely frightening experience for those 2 wrats and I would hate for this to happen again. I don't know if the person who gave it to them had malicious intent b ut it should never have happened. Here is a description of the chocolate and packaging: silver foil on the inside with a lilac colored label with printed ingredients and some sort of local logo for chocolate company. It was a smaller bar and chocolate had nuggets in it. I did some research and found out these we're all over redrocks, and apparently had mushroom powder in them. Not sure if this was someone local from Colorado or if they will have them on the whole tour. Please be aware if you are attending any upcoming shows. This happened right at the wharf rat table!! I pray this never happens again
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Submitted by Gr8fulTed on Sat, 12/04/2010 - 15:14

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Early snow is great this fall. Carved up the slopes at Loveland and Beaver Crik earlier this week.C'mon Cowgirl, you don't think Phil or Bobby's been skiing before? Tahoe has so much to offer.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 12/04/2010 - 16:55

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Bobby and Phil were more snowboarders ;) Ah you know, I just thought it was wild that they pick CO for a random 3 night run... Unless there is more of a tour on the heels? =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 12/04/2010 - 16:58

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Loveland is one of my faves! People always underestimate that place. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by Gypsy Cowgirl on Sun, 12/05/2010 - 15:06

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Phil ice skated back in the '90's on tour-don't know about Bobby.....just don't think they've ever skiied, but I'll certainly poke around .......:)))
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Submitted by Canyon Critter on Mon, 12/06/2010 - 09:03

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Presale just started for CO shows...click the poster above for the link♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Submitted by sherbear on Tue, 12/07/2010 - 08:01

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since I left MSG in the Moonlight,so many days ago now T:::::::::::::::::T and ya know I write more ~ everynight. I should just type it 2 YOU, ALL but I am a little shy, sometimes kinda. I feel like a stranger... so I bought this book and am reading IT to just take the etiquette path to express my appreciation for the 57 great times, we've recently had. It's named: The Art of Thank You Crafting Notes of Gratitude by: Connie Leas Published BY: Fine Communications 322 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10001 There's a, "generous sampling" of "...inspiring thank-you notes" I said, "If you--- threw a PaRty, you would SEE." I'm working on a Proper Note Now. ...I love you so much... so so much... "The Biggest Gift Would Be From Me." Just me and My Imagination. ----------------------(------@ --------------------------(---@ _____________________@ teeheehee I'll make my apprecation known properly...one day. Maybe it will be... My Masterpiece. I am so filled with gratitude Aww shucks... A MILLION BUCKS>>> in Silver. XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO -----------------------------(---@ XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO In lovingkindness always, Sherry
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Submitted by Canyon Critter on Sun, 12/12/2010 - 08:30

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Furthur 2011 Dates for March and April Furthur is excited to announce that we'll be touring throughout the month of March into early April, 2011, as we get rolling on what looks to be an exciting year after our initial shows of 2011 in Broomfield, CO in February. Between March 4 and April 6, Furthur will be playing in the following cities: Boston, Wallingford (CT), New York, Fairfax, Philadelphia, Binghamton, Pittsburgh, Hampton, Charleston, Atlanta, Orlando and Boca Raton. Furthur Fan Club pre-sales start January 7. Click HERE for complete tour dates and venues, and please check back here soon for ticket information. We look forward to seeing you on the road in 2011! Happy holidays! Tour Fri, Mar 4th Orpheum Theatre Boston, MA Sat, Mar 5th Orpheum Theatre Boston, MA Sun, Mar 6th Orpheum Theatre Boston, MA Tue, Mar 8th Oakdale Theatre Wallingford, CT Thu, Mar 10th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Fri, Mar 11th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Sat, Mar 12th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Sun, Mar 13th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Tue, Mar 15th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Thu, Mar 17th Patriot Center Fairfax, VA Fri, Mar 18th Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Sat, Mar 19th Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Sun, Mar 20th Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Tue, Mar 22nd Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Wed, Mar 23rd Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Fri, Mar 25th Radio City Music Hall New York, NY Sat, Mar 26th Radio City Music Hall New York, NY Sun, Mar 27th Radio City Music Hall New York, NY Tue, Mar 29th Broome County Civic Binghamton, NY Wed, Mar 30th Petersen Events Center Pittsburgh, PA Fri, Apr 1st Hampton Coliseum Hampton, VA Sat, Apr 2nd North Charleston Coliseum Charleston, SC Sun, Apr 3rd Fox Theatre Atlanta, GA Tue, Apr 5th UCF Arena Orlando, FL Wed, Apr 6th Mizner Park Amphitheatre, Boca Raton, FL Sounds like Fun!!!! ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Submitted by pomo1 on Mon, 12/13/2010 - 13:07

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It will be back to Radio City for me. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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Submitted by ripple70 on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 04:06

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european dfates oh well!!!!!!
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Submitted by AbleBaker on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 05:53

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I live in Las Vegas and have seen Ratdog many times here and Furthur once. Lookin forward to New Years with Furthur in San Francisco!I dont mean to speculate but Bill and Mickey for special guest at a Furthur show would complete the universe. New Years would be perfect. You just KNOW its gonna come true… Still, Furthur is bathing in great success today and the above posts are all right and true. Love to all you grate people peeps graple! smilin' on a cloudy day
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Submitted by Gr8fulTed on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 15:57

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Tune in 12/31/10, at 9 central, and rock on satellite radio!!! West coasters will be parting at 7?
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Submitted by rosa rugosa on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 17:06

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Hey now, where is everyone these days? LIning up 2011 show plans? We got tix for 3/4 & 3/6 at the Orpheum in Boston. No luck yet on 3/5, but still waiting for word from DS TOO - hope they come through for us! This is the first time I've tried the mail order route. The online presale was totally hopeless. It is unfortunate that the mail order and general online sales aren't timed far enough apart for you to know whether you've scored on one before you try the other.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 17:40

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It seems like our old 2009 Dead tour dead.net pals are not here much any more :( It's good to see YOU though! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 06:59

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Just saw for 2011 2 shows in Fla. First one at the new University of Central Florida's Arena. Just opened back in 08 and this a beautiful place to see a show with plenty of parking and lots of room for vending, partying, etc..., just watch out for the campus police, they can be real backward thinking and have a tendency for overreacting. With that in mind, have fun but be safe. Since the band will be skipping North Carolina this spring, I can't think of a better place to be in April, Sun, fun, furthur, definately something better to think about besides all of this snow and cold up here. "Paradise waits....."
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Submitted by Gr8fulTed on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 07:41

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Tell me about Mizner Park: it is an outdoor theater? I enjoyed the Miami Bayfront show last year.
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Submitted by rosa rugosa on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 15:14

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Jack: Looks like you have three shows coming up in CO, and I'll bet you're going to all of them - enjoy!Ted & Sam: What about the SC show? Just wondering, I would think that would be a nice warm spring venue as well. We've got tickets for 3/4 & 3/6 at the Orpheum in Boston. It's a small venue that sold out quickly. It's a real Brokedown Palace with lots of duct-taped renovations, but it's only 12 miles from our house, so we would love to be able to do all three shows. Still waiting to see if mail order comes through for us (and if it does, we'll have too many tickets - but better than getting shut out!) I'm surprised there isn't more conversation on this site - The Dead in 09 tour generated so much action, I could barely keep up with it after work. And that was just one tour in one season, where it feels like Furthur is taking us further indeed - a lot to be happy about, especially for folks like me, who got on te bus belatedly.
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Submitted by rosa rugosa on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 15:18

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We went to one of their shows in early Sept at the Hampton Beach Casino (NH) in early Sept, and it was great! Right-up-front forty-dollar tickets in a small-summer venue, too!Would definitely recommend and hope they come back soon.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 20:52

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Hit New Years in SF and next 3 more in Broomfield .. pretty grateful indeed! Have fun at you shows Rosa! Yes I agree that Rhythm Devils are awesome. Saw them twice last summer with Keller, they were A LOT of fun!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by unkle sam on Sun, 01/16/2011 - 07:03

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is an outdoor facility, alot like the bayfront in Miami, there is absolutely no tailgating at this place and parking will be expensive and iffy. I love south Fla but I will pass on this show, as far as South Carolina, I had a bad experience there and wouldn't set foot in that state for love or money or even free tickets, the cops in this state suck and they will bust you or at least mess with you if you look the least little bit like a head, good luck to any and all going there.
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Submitted by Brooklyn Peach on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 07:59

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Has anybody else noticed that the Tues, March 8th show in Conn. is on Mardi Gras? Laissez les bons temps rouler!
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Submitted by Canyon Critter on Tue, 01/18/2011 - 21:00

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Hey boyz and girlz...LOVE YOU....missed you too. Figured I'd just write everything here, because I assume most people check this thread. I've been under some serious pressures lately, Mom is back in the hospital, and honestly when she was out it was like a full time babysitting job. So, I appreciate all the kind vibes from all you from before, she's doing ok, just not there yet. Also, I've been working on projects @ the same time so I've had to put PRIORITIES ahead of being online and talking to my family. I will be getting everything squared away here in the next couple of days, I really just need to sleep and take a breather from the Chaos of what I've been dealing with. So please don't think that I've forgot about prizes and Getting back online/chatting/talking/vining and talking with all you kind folks. Just know that I've been under EXTREME stress with Mom's Disease and dealing with the game called "Life". Thanks for understanding, and I love you my family....ALOT! In fact without some of my close friends and dead.netters (family freinds) I don't think I'd still be sane right now. Love, Canyon Critter ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Submitted by Linder on Wed, 01/19/2011 - 00:22

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Sleep in the stars...glad your mother is improving. Galaxies of healing light to you and your mom and family!
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Submitted by vtdeadfan on Tue, 01/25/2011 - 19:06

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We are soooooooo ready for Boston!!!! Babysitters...check.....room...check.....money saved...check....March it happens...Beantown will kick it off. My wife and I are sooo ready to shake our bones and stomp the feet. Thank you Bobby and Phil for bringing us along on this trip...and to Mickey, Billy, Bruce, Donna, Tom and all....gather together one more time....PLEASE!!!!!! So MANY ROADS!!!
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Tue, 01/25/2011 - 20:19

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But 2011 really kicks off with 3 in Broomfield first my friend =) 2 weeks from Friday the train will be rollin on into town!!! Well my mama told me my papa told me too ... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by rosa rugosa on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 17:36

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Have a wonderful weekend at the Broomfield shows!
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Fri, 02/11/2011 - 18:05

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we should petition Sunshine to change her name to something that starts with a J, so they can go back to being aka Bob, Phil and a handful of J's... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 07:48

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Broomfield Feb 11 immediately!! Enough said. This is shaping up to be their greatest run yet. Wow! This was show #12 for me and I have every show they have played. Something special happened in the 1st Bank Center last night. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by Gr8fulTed on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 07:56

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02/11/11 (Fri) 1st Bank Center - Broomfield, CO Set 1: Jack Straw > Me & My Uncle, Loser, Big River, Must've Been the Roses, Deal (1) > Black Throated Wind, Brown Eyed Women Set 2: Weather Report Suite Prelude > WRS Part I > Let it Grow, Mountain Song > I Know You Rider, Dark Star > China Doll, Playing in the Band, Help on the Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower E: Liberty (2) Comment: (1) with Brother Esau jam; (2) before Liberty, Phil says "This one is for the people of Egypt"
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 09:16

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I'd rather be in some dark hollowWhere the sun don't ever shine Than to be home alone, knowing that you're gone Would cause me to lose my mind "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by Brooklyn Peach on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:31

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Just listened to Friday nights show in Colorado, and they sound great! It's getting better all the time. Thanks for putting it on the road again yet one more time! It's so great that at this point in time new people can still come to a show and get what the experience is all about! Party on, everyone!
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Submitted by rosa rugosa on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 08:38

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We got to hear some of it streaming on GD radio Saturday, great show!Furthur's next show - Boston, 3/4/11!
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Submitted by Gr8tfulBrad on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 18:00

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It seems like a perfect venue for Furthur I am surpirsed they haven't played there yet. I am praying for a 3 three night run sometime this summer. Broomfield shows were legendary...loved the 1st set Me and My Uncle!
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 20:58

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Time to start thinking about summer festivals!! Hope there is a Rothbury. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by krs10 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:44

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I second Gr8fulBrad's emotion: We Canucks are making the trip to Frisco for the Days Between and would LOVE to hear a 3-night run at the Greek Theatre. Pretty please?? (~);)
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Submitted by krs10 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 19:27

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String Cheese will definitely be playing 2 nights at the "Electric Forest" festival in Rothbury, MI. Not sure about other acts. There are rumours that this is the same weekend as Phish at Watkins' Glen. Ouch.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 19:31

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I'm talking FURTHUR in the Electric Forest man!! And Rhythm Devils and Widespread and Yonder along with SCI.. oh what a dream that would be "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by pomo1 on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 13:30

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What did you think? I thought second set sizzled. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by New2thesceneLisa on Fri, 03/11/2011 - 09:02

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To all heads going to this show......I live in this area and would like to inform ALL heads attending. This venue is across the strreet form a police department and jail. 6 UP people.Nothing cool ever happens here & I do not expect much tolernce. I may be wrong. Maybe they want to start having more shows to bring in revenue and will be very tolerant. One can hope, and I have been surprised before. Just thought I would throw it out there.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Fri, 03/11/2011 - 11:49

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Just announced... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by rosa rugosa on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 05:10

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I thought it was a wonderful show! The first couple of songs didn't excite me too much, but from Alabama Getaway on, it was all good. The second set was truly amazing!We went to all three Boston shows, and I was lucky to hear a lot of favorite songs I hadn't hear live before: Alabama Getaway, Crazy Fingers, Help>Slip> Franklin, Morning Dew, Tom Thumb's Blues, Mason's Children, Passenger, and St. Stephen. It does seem like they don't always pay enough attention to what they've played in a certain geographical area before. For example, there was only one song at the 11/19/10 Worcester show that I hadn't seen Furthur do before (China Doll), and it was only my fifth Furthur show. And the 3/5 Ripple encore was nice to hear as always, but that was the encore for the 6/30 Lowell show and the 11/19 Worcester show, so it does become a little less special. So I was really glad to get so many tunes in Boston that I hadn't seen them do before.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 19:03

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Man what a show - A Supplication and a guest appearence from Steve Molitz for an Elevator?? Not to mention the anticapted Here Comes the Sun.. nice, really really nice!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 08:20

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So did no one tape any of these shows??? Bummer... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by pomo1 on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 08:20

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I echo your comments about the Friday night show. Second set rocked. Glad you enjoyed all three shows. My next taste will be Radio City. I heard Warren Haynes joined the boys for the Second Set last night. Anybody out there have a review. I saw the Allman Brothers Saturday night and Warren absolutely burned the place. It was his night and he was sizzling, especially the first set. However, I never thought he quite meshed during THE DEAD tour a few years ago, so I'm curious if he was able to shine with Furthur. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:39

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Anyone get reserved seats in the pre-sale?? What an F'ing joke. I was on right when the clock struck 10 (our time) and every single reserved seat was gone, not 10:05 not 10:01, hell not even 10:00:30. Then you check stub hub and ticketnow and wow there's the tickets in some damn scalper's hand already. How do they do that?? Is it an inside job?? WTF??? It's not right it's just absolutely not right. Rant over. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"