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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Great story about seeing the Dead-thanks for sharing.

    Concerning great bands who didn't make it-I literally wouldn't know where to begin. I've got countless compilations of British and American bands from 1965-1975, some of whom only ever got to cut one single. "Nuggets" was the gateway drug for this obsession, and any one of the bands featured on the original double album, since expanded to a 4 cd set would qualify as must hears.

    But to delve even deeper, there is a great and beautiful book edited by the late great Patrick Lundborg, called "The Acid Archives", which chronicle bands so rare they weren't even household names in their own household. I've picked up a couple of albums recommended in this tome-two comparatively Dead friendly ones are the "Mountain Bus" album, which is often compared to Working Mans era Dead, and features a great version of "I Know You Rider", and Snakegrinder's "..and the Shredded Field Mice", which features some tidy jamming. Apparently Snakegrinder used to cover Dead songs live. We may never know how well.

    In the comparatively mainstream world, I get the impression the Flamin' Groovies didn't make it in the States. Shame-they would have livened Woodstock up a bit. "Flamingo" and "Teenage Head" are my two favourite albums by them, and the later single "Shake Some Action" is one of the best of the decade-1970s. They must have been quite successful though-they are touring Britain this very minute.

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    Here goes:
    We were 6 kids, 16-18 y.o., 4 guys/2gals who drove to Baltimore in what else? A white VW bus! We arrived around 3:00 PM and found the Civic Center. We proceeded to hang around outside for awhile and watch the great quanities of Heineken being brought in…this was before we knew about the Heineken requirements. The rest of the afternoon was spent walking around taking in the sights. The Inner Harbor had just completed renovations in hopes of furthering tourism as well as improving the city's image. I don't think we even had so much as a joint with us.

    The show was great with 'Sugaree' being a standout..the extended solos blew us away, there's no other way to put it. Though not the tour's best version it was still incredible to hear and see. Our seats were approx. 10 ft. in front of the soundboard and to the left. We decided to get a room for the night, the gals making sure it was in the same hotel GD were staying. After we registered everyone but myself headed for the lobby bathrooms. While standing there waiting in the lobby for my crew, 3 'freaks' walk through the front door: the guy on the left had a beard, glasses and shoulder length dark hair, the guy on the right had glasses and light brown, medium length hair and was talking to the guy on the left, while the guy in the middle was just bobbing his head left and right…my thought process was this: 'Damn they let any kind of freak in this place'…and then I saw the GUITARS…I headed for the bathrooms around the corner to alert my friends but by the time we got back they had gotten on the elevators.

    Long story short the gals were persistent in all things GD (these 2 ladies were at the Closing Of Winterland) and we got to meet Jerry Garcia the next day. He was an incredibly nice guy who took the time to talk with us for 15 mins. or so. My friend said, 'You did an incredible version of 'Sugaree' last night', at which Jerry, with a smile and a twinkle in his eye said, 'That was a lamb'. I'll never forget those words and believe they'll stay with me for life. All in all it was a great time

    I have 2 other '77 stories which I'll save for another time:
    1. The camp-out for opening night tickets at the Phila. Spectrum 4/22/77
    2. Englishtown

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    At least TYA had some success in the US…I believe it was their appearance at Woodstock that got them noticed by the media and the masses. 'Bad Scene' from 'Sssssh' was the song that got me.

    Unfortunately Moby Grape had an extremely bad marketing campaign that sank their 1st album, which is a shame as I think it's a great debut.

    I have what I call 'The Rock & Roll Fools Hall of Fame'…the fools being the masses who missed out on great music because they wouldn't give it a chance/listen. I think every person on this board could make a list of their own…artists or bands who never made it, whatever the circumstances…Moby Grape are in my Top 5.

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    DaveStrang brought up Moby Grape....

    ....ohhh shit. Ten Years After are there as well.

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    Definitely Dave's Picks worthy. I cannot believe this has not been released yet. Great performance, great recording. Did I miss something?

    What?? Your third show? Lucky dog. Do tell.

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    I've weaned myself from 3 10s down to 3 5s…will hopefully get off completely in the future.

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    Last 5…Why not?

    Last 5 GD:

    1. 11/7/69 Fillmore Auditorium - SF, Ca. - not as revered as DP16 11/8/69, but a fine show nonetheless. I was wondering why this wasn't a 4 show run? 11/8/69 was a Saturday which if I remember correctly was the Deadcrew 'dose' night and could be the reason for the X factor behind this show.

    2. 5/26/93 Road Trips Vol. 2 #4 - I forgot how good the 2nd set is, but 'Box Of Rain' reminded me why PL should never handle lead vocals again…

    3. 5/26/77 Baltimore, Md - My 3rd show... a sleeper (imo) from the much lauded Spring '77 tour…another potential DaP?

    4. 4/24/72 Dusseldorf, West Germany E72 Tour…'nuff said.

    5. Ladies & Gentlemen…The GD: 4/25-29/71 - a little musical detective work needed to be done: 'Casey Jones' is played at 4 of the 5 shows (4/25-27/71 & 4/29/71). I listened to the 5 shows and 'Casey' closes the four 1st sets with BW or JG saying 'Set Break' etc. 'Casey' on L & G has PL saying 'Thank ya New York' followed by Bill Graham praising the virtues of GD. This leads me to believe it's not just the end of the show but the end of the 5 night run… so where does PL fit in to it? It's actually evidence of the studio wizardry of both Jeffrey Norman (mixing) & Rudson Shurtleff (asst. engineer). PL says 'Thank ya New York' at the end of the 'UJB' 1st encore on 4/29! A great compilation and a little GD mystery…

    Last 5 (Actually 6) non-GD...all released/recorded 1967:
    1. Moby Grape - 1st S/T…these guys should have been as popular as GD/JA/BB & HC (imo).
    2. The Byrds - Younger Than Yesterday
    3. Miles Davis - Sorcerer
    4. Elizabeth Cotten - Shake Sugaree
    5. The Strawbs w/Sandy Denny - All Our Own Work (1967 Demos)
    6. Gene Clark w/The Gosdin Bros. - 1st S/T…when he left the Byrds they lost more than a lead vocalist.

    Damn I love music!

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    5s or 10s? ;-)

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    Dark Star wins

    :)))

  • Vguy72
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    TOO's vs DS's....

    ....one could scribe a thesis.
    Box set announcement next week. I feel it in my bones.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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As Perithecat says, the cost of large boxes is prohibitive if you don't live in the States, severely limiting access. A UK/Europe distribution centre would make all Dead merchandise much more accessible.

11/7/71 has been available for a few years on Amazon in the UK, both individually, and as part of the infamous 7 show "yellow box" of 1971 shows. These are all FM shows and incredibly good value for money. Its presence caused some controversy on here when it was first mentioned a year or so ago. But it has to be said, it is very attractive on all levels-and again, if you live in the UK/Europe, a fraction of the price of the Rhino boxes only available on here.

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The copy I have is DAMN good, Primo, not sure :-). Another easy pick for good sound. I like the song lineup. I guess I would have guess a later year than 71 for the next Dave. But Dave, I'll take what you give, sell, allow to buy. I'm looking now and yes there is a open slot on the shelf for 31, so send it already.

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Bolo did say the contest was not related to the next Dave or box release...I'm still counting on the Complete Warfield, and a june 76 show for Dave 31.
Now, if only Bolo would at least tell us when the announcement will come out...

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I read it a couple of times and still wasn't sure. In the end, it is what it is and I will take. But my copy of that date is very nice.

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and miss the Bolo clue, good one Bolo, but how about a real clue to the box set or DP 31? Congrats RichardTorres, great guess and a tip of the hat to you, Eureka, you got it. As far as the box, would love an 80 box, or a 91 box, but no 76 box please. Vince did not suck, especially with Bruce along for the ride, that's a bold statement to make and a personal opinion that not all of us share. Those were some great shows with the 7 man band in 91>92.
Those 5-26>27-93 shows were good ones, I really like the March shows from that year too, especially the NC shows, good times. I did not see the band in 86 or 87, loved the October 85 show I went to and the October 88 shows also, Jerry was wasted in 85 but he could still deliver the goods and in 88, it was like a rebirth. Someone said lets redo 95 with Mayer redoing Jerry's leads, Sacrilege I say, even on his death bed, Jerry was miles above anything Mayer can do. The 95 show I saw was a good one and the only stadium show that spring tour. More good times indeed.
Nappyrags, what a great find, send me some please :) Daverock, I also dig Tangerine Dream, thanks for the heads up ie. Phaedra, will check that out. That Pink Floyd jam for the moon landing is pretty awesome, 50 years ago we were walking on the moon....giant steps are what you take, walking on the moon....
I doubt if Phil will be anywhere near anywhere where D&C are playing, he's really not welcome and Billy and Mickey won't play with him so I don't think that's an option, besides, it's in writing that he can't play with the remaining 4 members together ever again due to that cash grab called fare thee well. Too bad, would love to see it but it ain't gonna happen, ever, at least not without a whole bunch of lawyers getting involved, and a burying of the hatchet between Billy and Mickey and Phil.

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Senor DaveStrang, I called out the Texas dates a couple months ago when raving that the new box would be Fall '72.

Lettuce prey u r write.

He wrote "Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…"

without pages of dirt, what happened between the three?

Pure opinion, but, I would think Phil could play with them "legally" as long as they don't use the name "Grateful Dead".

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I do not believe that there is a legally binding document that states that the Core 4 cannot play together for money.
The FTW announcement said that those would be the only 3 shows.
Then they added Santa Clara.
The statement in the announcement that it was the last time they would play together is not a legally binding contract.

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the FTW tagline said that this particular lineup would never be seen again, and I took that to include Trey et al. However, I think that they will do what makes sense to them, and I think that's fine, as they seem pretty happy these days.
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Slept in, just had breakfast (it’s noon here), now having coffee and watching 7-4-89.

My reading of Bolo’s contest was that it was a “what am I thinking of” contest, not a reveal of upcoming releases.

I’ll go!

A ‘cash grab’ doesn’t bother me. I’ll pay the cash if the music is worth it.
That’s why I’ll pay the cash for Roger Waters, but not The Rolling Stones.

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solo
YOLO
pollo
Tolo
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Psychedelic man of mystery

Dennis, great Hideaway link, thank you very much. HF / DaveS.. I'd take a big bite of a Texas 72 box.

Had a really good time at a free bluegrass show they had at the ski mountain up he hill from where I live (Hill Billy Gypsies). At the end they had to restring either the fiddle or mandolin, and the guitar player took some time to tell a little story starting with this next one is a Jerry Garcia song and began to introduce his songwriting style and took some time to credit Stephen Foster as being an influence on both Hunter and Garcia. Not sure how true that is and had never heard that before.. but he went on to say their songs and the style the wrote them in have a timeless aspect to them and lend themselves well to string arrangements.. and so started a smoking, wild and wooly Brown Eyed Woman ala bluegrass (acidgrass).

Had a great time, made some new friends, the weather was spectacular, the mountains beautiful brought our own beer and wine so it was an almost free event. I do agree.. and have said this here before, the song writing and the songs they have written, don't always get the credit they deserve. I do think there is a timeless aspect to them and Brown Eyed Woman is one of my favorites.. Gone are the days...

Well Happy Fourth of July all.. be good, be safe, be kind, play dead.

Delilah Jones went to meet her God,
And the old man never was the same again.

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Vguy, did you feel that quake? And if so, how did it compare to being in just the right spot, in just the right venue, with a song that had just the right Phil subsonic resonant frequency, that you would feel more than hear, so that the hole place seem to be floating.....”the carpet too is moving under you..”
hopefully all y’all didn’t experience any mishaps?

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I did not realize how good these guy were. Jerry said these guys were his mentor or some other word he said in an interview . It is very hard not to be in a good mood listening to these guys. The banjo style is out of this world.

In all honesty I echoed the opinion of another poster when I asked them. I revisited the shows and thought they would indeed make a great 4 show Box. You posted the same a short while later. A 4 show (Tx.) Box would keep it affordable for most and who doesn't like 1972? It seemed like the band could do no wrong.

The announcement? Mon./Tues.? The Dead & Co. tour ends on Saturday if I'm correct and I think Rhino wants to catch folks while they still have 'Dead Fever' not to mention we regulars, who've been salivating for months. OK I exaggerate…umm…not really (lol).

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And how. I'm funny like how? Like I'm a clown, I'm here to amuse you. How the f*** am I funny, tell me.

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....oof! Spinning Dave's 18, because '76 is unanimously accepted in the Vguy home.

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Jerry in shorts.... start of summer 90 tour.... 100+ degrees and an opening Cold Rain & Snow!!!! Highlight for me 27 minute Scarlet Fire going into drums!!! 29 years ago..... where does the time go. bob t

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The quicksilver messenger service, Big brother and the holding company and the dead on the same bill are the days of old. I wish I had a time machine. They don't even put up those old billboards for upcoming events anymore. Makes you want to cry.

Some those psychedelic posters from the 1960s advertising rocks concerts were works of art. Actually, it would be quite cool if they could use some of them on future Dead releases. If this isn't possible, for copyright reason or whatever, maybe the ideas and images could be referenced in newer works.

I'm listening to 5/21/74 from last years box as I type-the first set- which I thought I would add as it features some damn fine piano playing.

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Just cracked open an Upslope Tangerine & Hops Spiked Snowmelt. One will do, for breakfast, to try and get this freight train out of my head. First hangover headache I've had in years. Our 4th party was epic. Now the wife and I are left to clean up this disaster (at least no one died in this wreck). Thanks to everyone who left wine and beer in my fridge and snacks all over the place. Ahem.

Probably going to pick up Al and drive into Boulder around 3 for drinks and food at Shakedown Street. Can't wait to see the fellas the next two nights. Folsom Field at night in the summertime is magical.

Cheers, to everyone else who is off work today!

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Been a while, but hope everyone is having a great summer. I'm eagerly anticipating both the next Dave's Picks as well as the box set news. No matter what it is, I can't imagine I'll be too disappointed given the riches we're all privy to these days.

On a separate note, I saw Phish at Camden for 3 nights last weekend - I know there are mixed feelings about them here, but they are playing great and it was good to be out on the lawn with some family and old friends who convinced me to go. A night (or in this case 3) with live music is better than most alternatives...

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It has clearly been stated several times that the box announcement will be 8/1 @ MUATM and not before. I predict ‘79. I saw both Keith & Brent that year

DAP31 should be in the next week or so. Maybe a Bruce & Vince show? That would be a nice change

I bought the ‘71 “Yellow Box” and love it

Saw The Who in May with a full orchestra and it was great. Roger is fully healed. Queen & the Stones on back-to- back nights in Aug. only about 5 hr. drive between shows. I am old but it is doable!

Rock on

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Wooooohhhooooooo!
Fug this box noise (for now...) going to see live #$*($$(& Dead!
Only 2-3 hours of horrible holiday mountain traffic, a total dipshit fest gettin in and then.......aaaahhhhhhh
“This must be heaven....”
we’ll hopefully be in our spot last row center, you’ll know me if you see me!
T minus 9 hours and 30 minutes till liftoff!
Wwooooooooohhhhhhhooooooo!
Have fun but be safe sports fans!

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As long as a digital download is offered, I don't think any box set will sell out in less then a year or so. Look at the July '78 box. That was an AWESOME offering, 3 years ago, and there are still some on the shelf at Dead.net.

Rock on

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I have never been to a MUATM and I doubt they will be announcing the 2019 Box to such a small exclusive group that go to these meet-ups.

"we will be revealing an exclusive look at the Dead's soon-to-be announced 2019 boxed set"

It's going to be a look at not an pre-order announcement.

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I would imagine that they will first reveal the box at MUATM and will follow up with an announcement here after MUATM. I imagine they are using the announcement as an additional motivator for folks to attend MUATM. Everyone will get the announcement, but the folks at MUATM will get it first.

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although I already had this one as a bootleg SDB I was not disappointed. for the copies that circulated was riddled with cuts. the one that most stood out being the Cosmic Charlie that was the most disappointing. my show notes from a 6-23-18 listening: Too bad about the cuts in this tape. Maybe the vault has a complete copy. Still has replay value & good sound quality. - Not saying I called it or anything, just that it was optimism that actually paid off for once.

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I know we have talked about this before but the July 78 box set is the most under rated box release based upon the first 3 shows that were not circulated at all in sound board quality. The last two shows were out there in killer boards, but those first 3 are just such great upgrades... Think of it this way, what if the January and February boards from 1979 were all of a sudden released. We have had nothing but audience tapes for 40 years. No disrespect to the other boxes released... Before July 78 box was released i hadn't listened to 7/1, 7/3, 7/5 audiences since my tape trading days back in late 80's.... Now I am talking about one on it's anniversary date!!! Buy and listen before they are gone..... good weekend everyone.... bob t

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‘Soon-to-be announced’...

DL just waiting for windy day

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Hey Now Dead People! Happy Friday everyone and hope you had a great 4th. I’m in recovery mode but trying to get revved up for the first Boulder show tonight. Couldn’t make it out there, so will be streaming live...Carpet is fired up and ready to go!

Oroborous-watch out for The Sasquatch creatures....if they happen to abduct you it takes weeks to recover!

Not a huge fan of '78 because it's a lot more manic (or coke-fueled), and Bob's learning of the slide onstage, but these shows are great for the most part. My favorite of the bunch is still 7/1. I will take that over either Red Rocks show. I don't know if they felt like they had to be more precise in front of a country audience that expects precision playing, or if they just wanted to blow their minds, whatever it was, it clicked. The Omaha show was my least favorite of the bunch, but it's still a damn good show. Why a box with 3 completely uncirculated Bettys with terrific artwork hasn't sold out after 3 years is mystifying. Makes it even crazier that Get Shown the Light sold out faster than any other box. Sure those shows were well known, but also extremely well circulated. I imagine that leads to some trepidation on this year's box. Last year's PacNW '73-74 looked to be a shoe in to sell out, too, but is still there with an amazing box and art, and 6 fantastic shows. I don't want to see them cut down on the number of box sets available and possibly miss out on a quick sell out, which 7200 copies of Texas '72 could easily do, hypothetically speaking, of course. It's got to be hell on Rhino's accountants to figure this out, 30 Trips sells out at 700 bucks a pop within several months, GSTL sells out 15,000 copies in 2 days, and who knows how many music only editions and downloads, and the other boxes are still available. Maybe they shouldn't do the download editions...

The physical packaging is revealed, similar to the PNW Box last year.

https://youtu.be/ePU2Ygv1ILU

I placed my PNW order on 6-12-18, well before MUATM.

Although I would like a June 76 Box, I’m expecting an announcement on 7-17 that the Box will be Alpine 7-17,18,19-89 complete audio/video. Being that it’s the 30th anniversary.
And if that actually happens, I’ll be quite happy.

Have fun in Boulder folks.

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Folks in Boulder are getting real wet! Show Is being delayed and they told people to seek shelter.

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