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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Trainwrecked
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    All the music in the world, 90% of which I won't listen to, for 10 bucks a month sounds as good as that cable TV bill I was paying 15 bucks a month for in 1980. Was great at the time, but my cable bill is 10x the cost now, and keeps going up. Have fun with your streaming in 10 years. And besides, streaming and digital technology has killed the recording artists, and in turn, the concert scene. Piracy IS the reason the reason concert ticket sales are so high now. Artists have to make their money on the road, because there's little for them in songwriting royalties anymore. Technology killed the concert scene. What used to be a festive getaway for any who desired it is now reserved for the priveledged. And like wise Charlie said, the only CDs I buy is Limited Edition Dead CDs, and like wise KeithFan said, the fun part is opening the damn package and enjoying the artwork, the liner notes, and that great smell.

    There's no turning back from it all, but make no mistake, we're being tethered and robbed in the long con. Enjoy your financial bondage.

  • JimInMD
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    Interesting Discussion

    First.. why only ten comments per page? You blink or take a day hike and you have scroll back 10 pages to get the pulse of what's going on.

    Second.. 8-Tracks always sucked... well, they were ok for the first ten plays but on the 11th play your car or portable 8-Track player would get hungry and inevitably eat your tape. Then you realized you had to buy a really nice, expensive deck so it wouldn't eat your tapes.. you'd then get 37 listens before it got hungry and ate your tape and be out an extra $350 for a new high-end, but still shitty deck. If you were skilled.. you could somehow pull it out, bend and tuck all that extra tape back into the 8-Track cassette, but every time that part of the album came on it would sllllloooowwww dooowwwwnn where it was stretched.. then skip 10 seconds where you had to cut and splice it back together with scotch tape, etc. There is no comparing any media to 8-Tracks because they sucked that bad. As soon as my first tape was eaten, I loathed them and could not wait for a better technology. They were the first media you could play in a car, once another arrived they were gone like the dodo. Plus, album art or liner notes, forget about it. Comparing any of this to 8-tracks is like wondering why no one drives Edsels anymore.

    As for streaming.. I find it just doesnt work well for dead music. I mean, what band has 2,318 albums? Amazon Alexa, for example, has a ton of concerts on their service.. but asking 'her' for one and having 'her' return and play the show you like is next to impossible. "Alexa, Play Grateful Dead Cornell University, 5/8/77" (which is in there) and you get "mmm I can't find that, here's Donnie and Marie Paper Roses 1977 instead", said in the most polite, androgynous voice possible.

    Streaming just becomes difficult for a band with so many [albums] or shows, whatever. If it was quicker/easier to find exactly what I want, I would stream more. Perhaps tomorrow this will get better.

    Who knows. I think for deadheads, who seem to have an almost unquenchable thirst for good music.. they will stream for the convenience and buy Dave's Picks and perhaps a box set a year, so why would Rhino walk away from that extra revenue stream of the new releases from the vault? In fact, their revenue is increasing, they are not going to pull the plug just yet. Streaming is for what has already been released and all the other music you listen to, but vault releases will likely continue to be released on physical media as a niche product. ..then in a few years it will wind up on the streaming platforms.

    My two cents and I could be wrong.. I see GD listeners as being perhaps streamers and I'm going to get Dave's Picks too because I want it and it makes me happy and I want it now.

    Oh.. and Charlie3, I totally get why you live where you live and it being worth the sacrafice of being plugged in all the time. An amazing part of the world.. beautiful and lots to do. Nothing wrong with cities, but you are in big sky country, I'd take it for 15 (slow) gigs a month or whatever the limit is and speed is. Perhaps 5G will change some of this.

    So anyway.. this could be the year of the Ark. Makes sense, doesn't it. Bolo, bolo, bolo. There, said it three times.

  • daverock
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    Pointless progress

    There have been so many changes in format since I bought my first L.P in 1971. The move to cassettes, on to cds, on to digitally remastered cds-circa 1995, onto new digitally remastered cds this century using the latest technology. And now streaming. I am not sure what progress has been made, really. A lot of it seems, now-with the benefit of hindsight-to be a marketing ploy.
    The move from having videos, onto dvds onto blu ray seems to me to have marked progress-but a lot of improvements to consumer items is surely designed to create profit-not to improve quality.

  • cub
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    Will Music Streaming Servers Survive an E.M.P.

    I too prefer hardcopy CD's. As far as I know Cd's cannot loose their data in the event of electro magnetic pulse event,
    solar event etc.

    I also preorder Dave's Picks Subscription every year for $99. Not try something stupid like try to cancel 1/2 my placed order. Just sell the extra at cost.

  • Charlie3
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    Slogan of the Day

    Just as an aside, my vote goes to VGuy for the slogan of the day with "You can lead a head to Winterland, but you can't lead him to his seat."

    The answer to the recurrent question of "how could I have purchased a copy of this release before it sold out?" is to SUBSCRIBE. Don't chase each Dave's Pick, subscribe and trick them into showing up at your door.

  • Charlie3
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    I get what you are saying, and you may be right about the expense issue to some extent, but let me expand on a couple of my points.

    My total data for the month through my internet provider is 15GB. For the month. I burn through that in two weeks just reading news and for work purposes. I would be seriously limited in my ability to stream or download music, let alone video, and would have to ration my listening time. That has no appeal. My phone service is also a plan with limited data, so that really doesn't change the picture. The data limitations alone mean that streaming is not really an option unless I jump up to a substantially more expensive data plan, and then pay for the streaming service on top of that. Your calculation assumes that there is no cost to data or internet access, but that is not the case for me. I would have the streaming cost, plus the cost of the additional data needed to make it worthwhile. I get this is an issue related to my geographic location, but I really like my geographic location with it's low population density and spectacular scenery. I have limited data access, but the one of the largest roadless area in the lower 48, the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness, is just across the valley, with hiking trails in every just about every drainage up and down the Bitterroot Valley and an abundance of other nearby wilderness areas in just about every direction. I am getting by without the extra data.

    As far as cost, most of what I buy at this point is limited edition dead releases, including Dave's Picks and the annual box set, that won't be available on a streaming service, so I will be stuck paying for that on disc whether or not I stream everything else. If I buy something on disc this month and go broke with unexpected expenses next month, I can listen to the music I already own without spending a dime, but with streaming I am committed to paying the monthly fee forever or I would not be able to listen to any of "my music". I would be paying for the same music month after month, most of which I already own on disc at this point. Which brings me to sunk costs. I already have a decent number of discs, since I haven't counted in a while I'll estimate about a few hundred, maybe close to a thousand. At this point I can listen to them without paying a dime, and since they represent the things that I am most likely to listen to, I would be paying to stream a lot of music that I already own on disc and can listen to for free. And to be honest, the whole streaming thing triggers some kind of atavistic luddite response for me, and I make no claim that this is necessarily a response that will seem logical to others.

    Bottom line, if you dig streaming, go for it, the future looks bright for you. If you're one of those folks who dig vinyl, good timing, it seems to have made a comeback. For me, I foresee CD's being the source of my music for the foreseeable future.

  • jrf68@hotmail.com
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    F**k streaming

    I have no use for it.
    Proud to be that guy.
    :O)

  • Vguy72
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    If you know how it works....

    ....you had both right there! Sell one! Jeezus.....you can lead a head to Winterland, but you can't lead him to his seat.

  • tmctighe
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    I would love to experience Dave's Picks 30, but unfortunately, due to a ridiculous purchase process, I lost out. Won't go into gory details, but I got no help trying to deal with a problem (mistakenly ordered two cd's and tried to cancel one). Supposedly couldn't delete one unless I emailed a request. I did not get a response until 5 days later, and now the cd is sold out.

    Because of this, and the fact that there is such a ridiculously low number of cd's released, making it virtually impossible to purchase a cd, I will not purchase anything from Deadnet again.

  • Vguy72
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    "Being able to see the TV from the kitchen is key"....

    ....yeah. About that. Been in our current house for three years. I love it, but that was one complaint I had about it. Mrs. Vguy trumped me. Now where's my sledgehammer? (a wall. Not my wife).
    ....streaming. I'm slowly accepting it. What choice do I have? Buffering sucks major ass. An exercise in futility. 😡 I dread being that guy who has a laptop/tablet in every room. Ptth.
    ❤️ Spotify....I'm not an audiophile, so it works just fine for me.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Another great extant evening with is 6/24/70 especially the late show with an intense, driving, electric set. Audience recordings unfortunately on one level, on the other hand, they capture the sound perfectly (and as to that, I speak from personal knowledge).

Thank you Jim for the offer, I do have all of 5/15.

And Vguy, nothing at all against the later period Dead, but perhaps if you take an evening and listen to an entire "Evening with the Grateful Dead" (with appropriate set breaks natch) in one sitting, you might at least appreciate why old timers like me find the early period to be one of explosive creativity, as compared with the later, and admittedly, more musically and technically mature decades. I suggest 6/24/70 if the audio doesn't bother you.

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I first heard about a 40 minute snippet of this show on the GDH, show #406. DG actually apologized for not having a better quality tape. Somewhere out in this I believe that a crisp full SB recording exists. It remains one of my all time favorite radio moments. Another one was when DG introduced me to 2/18/71 oooooooooh that jam out of Dark Star> Wharf Rat to this day still sends shivers up my spine.

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....my experience with David Gans and an Evening With The Grateful Dead is embarrassing lacking to say the least. On my (Hell In A) Bucket list.
However....The Berkeley Truckin' from the 13:30 mark too the 16:00 one is just Philling my cup. Time for some tea and weed.

Not the band(s) Nirvana, the new 2/28/69 vinyl box, which I have just ordered. This will be the first time I have heard the whole show, apart from on my ancient bootleg, so hooray for a bear. Last years 2/27/69 was the release of the year for me. Even the look of it. When I tell friends about the vinyl I have recently bought, that is the one I show them to provoke the wow factor.

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...another 1978 ‘Primo’Performance...🙏❤️😎

* “The Closing of Winterland is a four-CD live album by the Grateful Dead. It contains the complete concert performed on December 31, 1978. The concert was also released as a two-disc DVD. The title derives from the fact that it was the last concert in San Francisco's Winterland Arena, which was shut down shortly thereafter. The Dead celebrated the closing as an approximately five-hour-long party (complete with breakfast with the audience at dawn) and invited some guests including guitarist John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service and Ken Kesey as well as actor Dan Aykroyd who provided the midnight countdown. It was certified Double Platinum by the RIAA on December 15, 2003 under the category of longform video, selling 200,000 units. The New Riders of the Purple Sage and Blues Brothers opened the show.”
*Pre-ordered DVD sets included the bonus CD "New Year's Eves at Winterland". It contains an additional nine tracks recorded on New Year's Eve in 1970, 1971, 1972 and 1977, another golden gem passed on from the Gods...
* Bonus disc – "New Year's Eves at Winterland"
Recordings from other New Year's Eve concerts at Winterland:
"Easy Wind" (Hunter) – 9:35 (December 31, 1970)
"Jam" > (Grateful Dead) – 2:07 (December 31, 1971)
"Black Peter" (Garcia, Hunter) – 8:42 (December 31, 1971)
"Playing in the Band" (Weir, Hart, Hunter) – 18:26 (December 31, 1972)
"Lazy Lightning" > (Weir, Barlow) – 3:36 (December 31, 1977)
"Supplication" (Weir, Barlow) – 5:35 (December 31, 1977)
"Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 11:59 (December 31, 1977)
"Scarlet Begonias" > (Garcia, Hunter) – 8:48 (December 31, 1977)
"Fire on the Mountain" (Hart, Hunter) – 10:06 (December 31, 1977)

*Plus Additional musicians
Bill Graham – master of ceremonies
Dan Aykroyd – midnight countdown
John Cipollina – guitar
Ken Kesey – thunder machine
Matthew Kelly – harmonica
Lee Oskar – harmonica
Greg Errico – drums

...Amazing Release, #5 Stars for this Deadhead! Have a grateful day everyone, god bless! 🙏❤️🤠

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Top of the morning!
I bought the winterland 1973 box set with the bonus disc, but unfortunately it was used and didn’t come with the box and booklet( plus the little trinkets) but I got it for a buck 50 so I accepted that flaw. By chance does anyone out there have just the box they’d be willing to let go, & if you have the booklet and trinkets that would be awesome but the box alone will satisfy me.?

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It’s a dark star kind of morning before work for me this Friday, 6/24/73 Portland & 5/15/70 Fillmore east🙃
The sound on this RT v.3#3 5/15/70 is superb! Clear , warm, solid!
And then I went to 1/2/70, “ repeat after me Bobby “ 😂! Brought my CD player and disc 3 from DaP30! Yes! Macintosh should make a portable superior hdcd player for dead. Net, just a thought 🤔

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Don't worry about Keithfan. I've heard from a highly trusted source with far reaching capabilities and a keen eye for transgressions that Keithfan employs the speech to text feature of his computer machine to bring us his various theses, theorems and judgments when piloting his motor carriage.

I wish the (other) powers that be would turn up oteil's bass. I've struggled to hear what he's doing at the D&C show's i've attended. One of the things I love about the dead is how you can always hear what everyone is doing. If distortion is used, its used for a purpose. Not as a crutch. Phi's sound has always been able to cut through the din. I haven't got that with Oteil.

I know, two different things, tone and volume. But oteil and compnay need to figure it out.

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...12/28/79 Oakland, Road Trips Vol.1 #2
This is where I feel” dead and company “ are at in performance style & Set-List... love’n it all!
1979= Primo! Lol 🙏❤️😉

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Jerry Lawson, lead singer of The Persuasions. They did some nice work with Dead tunes a few years back.

Also R.I.P. Rip. Torn, that is.

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We seem to be getting a lot of these lately.. I feel old.

I didn't hear about Jerry Lawson, but did hear about Rip Torn. I liked many of his movies, perhaps his epitaph should read, "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball." ….wwwhap, dinggg….. Any other questions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peUyLXrgYZ0

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Both DaP7 (4/24/78) & DaP15 (4/22/78) are 3rds for their respective years and obviously from the same tour…I seem to recall they were part of an aborted 4/78 Box Set also…could another show from this tour/aborted Box be a candidate for DaP31? 4/21/78 seems like a likely choice (and yes Dennis this is the show with the 'Stayin' Alive' tease!) and clocks in at approximately 160 mins. or 2 CDs, leaving 1 CD for bonus material…4/18/78 looks interesting, if only for the 2nd set: 'Scarlet' > 'Dancing' > 'Drums' > 'Samson' , 'Terrapin' > 'Around'.

Both 'Scarlet' & 'Dancing' clock in at almost 14 mins. ea. and could feature a unique transition jam. There would be enough time left for a few 1st set songs as well. 4/19/78 has a typical set list for the tour, but as always performance rules the day. Another show for those who want 1978. Since none of my predictions have ever panned out, why spoil a good thing? lol

Last 5 + 1:
Fairport Convention - What We Did On Our Holidays
Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
Sugar Pie DeSanto - Go Go Power: The Complete Chess Singles (1961-1966) Etta James cousin if interested.
Big Bill Broonzy - Good Time Tonight
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire
Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun

Last 5 GD:
DP33 - 10/10/76 Oakland, Ca. opening for The Who
Archive - 5/1/70 Alfred, N.Y. 12 song acoustic set
Archive - 4/26/69 Chicago, Il. doing battle with The VU - a portion of the show makes up part of DP26.
E72 - 4/11/72 Newcastle, England
Spring '90 - 3/24/90 Albany, N.Y.

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“ I’ve got better runs in my shorts” lol
If only there had been professional dodgeball, I’d have been a superstar!

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Rip torn was a great comedian. Famous for saying in a swishy kind of way, "Frisco going to Frisco". Will be missed. P.S. Not sluring the word Swishy.

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Ok I'm ready for beer. I just finished my Cream of wheat!

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I'm in an '81 kind of groove why not Normanize 9/26/81? For 2 reasons one being it was my 16th birthday & 2 its a rather unusual second set. Anytime you get a Playin>Bertha set opener you know it's going to be a most interesting set of music.

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I just read the Earthquake article in the New York times and these foreshocks as they say could be a warning. You live in this area? What is it like in the public? Are people still on eggshells? What are you thoughts. Be safe.

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$90 out the door including tax from a local brick and mortar.

Morning Dew sounds great so far. Going to spin side 1, then go outside for a while with the dog. Once the sun has set I’ll be back on the couch to spin the rest of the show and watch TDF on mute.

Let’s stick with the 80’s as the third release and go with 3-9-81. We know there are good sounding recordings of that show.

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As mentioned in Part 1 of the story, BIL (Brother In Law), and I had just gotten off the bus which had dropped us off all the way at the back of the lot. This was approximately ¼ - ½ mile from the entrance to the venue, which wasn’t so bad except for we were carrying a 12 pack (minus the 2 beers we drank on the bus) in a large bucket filled with ice. The lot looked to be almost completely full at this point with more cars cramming in. The atmosphere reminded me a lot of the tailgates we have here in KC at Arrowhead, except for folks were decked out in Dead gear, Tie Dye, and other various costumes & hippie wear. We trudged along, checking out the scene while I tried to call a friend of mine named Chuck who I had met the past year on Dead.net. Chuck is a KC native who has spent the last few decades living in the Seattle area and started sporadically touring with the band last year. Chuck and his crew of 7 tour buds were camping in the main public camping area at the Gorge which was visible to BIL and I from where we stood, but way up on a hill and very far away. I’m not sure how far it was, but it looked like a mile or more, up-hill, and with the heavy bucket weighing us down, we didn’t think it was worth the walk as by the time we got up there and found Chuck , we would have to start walking back or risk not getting into the show on time, which would have been entirely unacceptable. So, we opted not to take this particular trip. This turned out to be a catch 22 as we later found out that the camping area is where Shakedown was located at The Gorge which would mean no Shakedown for us this weekend, and also the logistics made it so I wasn’t ever able to meet up with Chuck  (next time my friend)……..but we ended up being correct about getting into the show on time, as many folks were still in line and missed some of the first set even after arriving at the entrance at least an hour before start time.

When we arrive near the entrance, the place was a zoo. There were long lines already formed at will call and at the VIP/media entrance. We already had our tickets so this was not a problem for us. We did not have VIP entrance passes or wristbands for the VIP drink area inside, and being that Shakedown was no where in site, we decided to post up and take a seat on these large boulders that separate the parking from the entrance to the venue. As it turns out, this was a very fortuitous decision. There was already an old Deadhead biker dude who had done the same, so we cracked some beers and started shooting the shit with him. Turns out he was at Woodstock and saw the entire show including the Dead and the closing Jimmy Hendrix act. Wow, this was the first person I had ever met who could make this claim! About this time, another dude came around selling Stealie stickers for $1, so we checked those out, but nah we don’t want one, and as the dude walked off I said….”hold on a second wait! Would you be interested in trading one of your stickers for one of my buttons?” After checking out the buttons he was quick to agree, and so my button adventure had officially begun!!! I turned to Woodstock biker guy and said would you like one too? “Yeah, I’ll take one” he said with a big smile, and pinned it to his jacket. Holy shit….that was cool! I felt really good at that moment and started looking for others whom I could give away a button!

As the song says, Once in a while you can get shown the light….and while the reason that I came was most certainly the music, followed by the communion with 20,000+ like-minded folks & freaks, giving away the buttons was without question my strangest of places if you look at it right. I made a few trades with them; a little bar of homemade soap shaped like a dancing bear, and a couple of stickers, but mostly I just gave them away. I only had 100 per night, so I was somewhat selective in who I gave them to. I chose people who had on Grate outfits, really cool Tie Dyes, or who showed a lot of spirit through good dancing, good deeds or just general happy nature and good vibe that I could feel. This was so much fun, and felt so good, I can’t even begin to describe it. Tears me up a little right now just thinking back to some of the moments. The smiles after giving these buttons were big, full and truly grateful for such a tiny trinket. I can’t tell you the number of people that would hold it up to their hearts, smile huge and then look me in the eye and thank me with all sincerity, after which some of them would give me a big hug like we were long lost friends or family and had known each other for years. Word was getting out a little, and some folks were starting to come up to me and either offer me trades and or ask outright if they could have a button. I didn’t once turn anyone down who asked for either. One filthy looking hippie dude came up to me and asked me if I would like to trade him for a used tube of CBD infused chap-stick, and I answered yes after hearing the word trade! “What, wait hold on a second…..no way man, I said laughing, after realizing what I had just agreed to. Keep your chap-stick and just take a button for free dude”! He then took the button, smiled that big smile I was getting used to, then like a true head, dead pan asked, “Do you want to hit my joint”?, as he held up a half-smoked fired up spliff. “Fuck yeah”, I say, taking the joint for a couple of puffs while we all laugh our asses off at the hilarity of the moment. Only at a Dead show, ha, ha….laughing now just thinking about it!

Much has already been said about the line at The Gorge, and I have to agree the situation at the gate was in true Dead fashion, a complete clusterfuck. As early as 3 hours before (but probably significantly longer), the official start time of the show, we noticed that lines to the normal entrance were already started to form. We were not far from the entrance sitting on our boulders and it just so happened that the line formed almost directly into our spot, so without even having to move from our little party spot, we found ourselves already in line and maybe only a half of a city block from the entrance. Aside from tiny movements in the line we basically were able to stay in this spot until they started letting people in, which was maybe 1.5 hours before show time. BIL and I made friends with some of the folks around us in line, drank on our IPA’s, smoked a few joints along with our oil pipes, and I gave away buttons. Before we knew it, the line started to slowly move forward, and our party moved with it.

As we inched our way slowly toward the entrance, I started to get the munchies, so I figured now was just as good time as any to have the first serving of veggies. I pulled out the Wild Willie’s Reserve Joint tube where I had stored them and split them up equal, 2 parts for me and 1 part for BIL. I ate mine and then handed BIL his share which he happily gobbled down. I had asked some folks in line earlier about security, and specifically marijuana being that it is legal in Washington. Due to legality, no one seemed to think it would be an issue and so I took no security precautions whatsoever as we approached security, and left all of my pre-rolled joints (3 or 4 left at this point) in the plastic tubes that they came in. Boy were they wrong, and was I stupid!!! We were getting really close now and I still had a few unopened beers in the bucket (BIL is not much of a beer drinker). I gave away a couple of “miracle” beers, popped a top and guzzled one myself, paying little attention to what was going on in front of me at security. When we finally got to the metal detectors, my idiot plan was just to openly put all of my shit into the tubs they offer to pass around the metal detectors and so that’s exactly what I did. My lighter, plastic tubes full of pre-rolled joints, tube of veggies, wallet, phone, basically everything went into that fucking plastic tub. The next thing I know the dude is rifling through my shit in the plastic tub while stating “you can’t take this in”. One by one he reads each tube and says sorry this isn’t allowed, and then he yells “BLACK BAG, BLACK BAG”…..this chick then walks up with an already full trash bag and the dude drops all of my shit while she calmly smiles at me….”No, you can’t…..but that’s my….” I start to say, but it was too late. FUCK, FUCK, FUCK!
BIL has a similar experience, as did a lot of other folks in line. They were going through everything; blankets, bags, jackets etc….even dumping out full boxes of cigarettes to find the hidden joints inside. The one thing they were not doing is full pat downs, so everything left in the pockets was fine. Luckily, I had forgotten to put my oil pen in the plastic tub and BIL had purposefully omitted his so those got through. Since the tube with the last helping of veggies was not sealed, the guy slid the tube open, I guess he must of looked at the empty side or just didn’t notice because he politely handed that tube back to me. Tragedy narrowly averted there.

Now being robbed of our goods we regrouped, quickly took inventory of what we had left which was very little and congratulated each other on not being arrested. As my good friend Jeff would say who designed the buttons, Onward!!!

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A "burned"copy of Fillmore West 1969: The Complete Recordings + Bonus. I made it for someone who no longer needs it. First to PM me. I have an extra book for it as well.

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Damn, hadn't heard that til I saw Carlo's post. Guy was hilarious on the Larry Sanders Show. Another reason he's a legend is a drunken binge he went on several years ago had him outdoing Lee Marvin. Marvin was a notorious drunk, and one night, plastered, as usual, he drove himself home and found his keys wouldn't open the door, so he broke in, only to find out he had moved several years before, and the current owner was pretty pissed. Well, how does Rip top that? By doing the same thing, only he had stopped at a bank, and broken into the bank in the middle of the night thinking it was his house. Also, he was armed at the time, because, of course he was. How he got just probation is a sad tale for the American legal system, but I hope the old Salty Dog rests in peace.

https://youtu.be/4uWXcuu5MY0

Also, my favorite Artie line from Larry Sanders may be from what became the first episode, The Garden Weasel when he says to a new female network executive, "Don't take this as a threat, but I killed a man like you in Korea. Hand to hand."

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I heard about the bank incident. Funny as hell.

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The bank that Rip broke into looked a lot like a regular house.

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Still funny. I think we all have a lampshade on the head story in our past, right?

Stroahs, uuuuuuuuhhhh, sounds like a headache! Don’t think we ever purposely drank that swill even in the young, dumb, poor, most ounces for the dollar days of no micro brew, even if we could find any, we probably couldn’t afford it, or at least wouldn’t “waste” that much money lol.
They used to send me into the store (bunch of wusses) at ten to 3, couldn’t by beer after three and the parties then usually went on until mid morning, so we’d make a beer run to stock up, so we’d all be trippin and I’d be the one elected to go in cause I could still figure out “most once’s for the dollar” in a reasonable amount of time, and composure, that wouldn’t freak out the old lady, Fran I think her name was, into calling the fuzz etc, in fact over the years we sorta got to know each other as, ahem, we were very regular late night customers, and don’t think anyone back then would of been sporting extra electric tie dye whilst beaming the “I have enough energy to light up N.Y.C.” Cheshire Cat grin/pupils etc....but in typical Deadhead fashion we’d always be real polite and chat her up a bit as I’m sure it could be pretty boring at times.........man, it’s funny the things you can get used to, the things then that we’re just a norm that now I can’t even fathom doing!
Which reminds me, ppsssssstttttttt, ahhh, just cracked the first golden yummy of the WE; a nice frosty North Coast Old Rasputin, not usually a summer choice, but I dropped it and the seal came partially undone, and well “waste not, want not” etc and well it’s actually tasting pretty dam tasty in this chilly AC, especially thinking about all the nasty swill of our past, and hey, maybe that bottle fell of the shelf for a reason..........whooooaaa! Blossom!
Got turned on to Oscars Can-O-bliss last D&C WE.....perhaps new favorite summer beer, yum will have to try more this WE!

CJ, hee-hee, thanks for the tour tale! The times they may be a changing, but old habits die hard, and a, most of these venues have pretty stern warning lists of “NO” etc......no fun allowed! Aaaaaaaaaa, what’s up Doc? FU bitches, or as Old Jack used to say “avoid authority” and go through life like a ghost. These words have saved my ass many times over the decades!
So in my best Chef voice “so all you chilrens never ever assume anything is legal” especially if it’s the important “items” that you just can’t boogie without. But “oh, oh, what I want to know is”........no not that, the rest of the story, because you said something in the first chapter about “we didn’t pay attention to the bus” or something........which I’m sure I’m not the only one here who has aaa, had difficulty finding [you fill in the blank] after a show 😉

“LAMPSHDES......in the past” What you talking about Willis! I’m sporting one of my Pedro designer line as we speak!
Ok, tonight’s performance will be 7/12/89........Awesome Summer Friday night, great Dead, great beer, ......Dooooooo, just realized we’re a tad light on the Big Smoke, Rat turds!!....well just have to hit the seeds and stems box like the olden days! Ok, nuff ramblin, in the words of our Amigo JS....ONWARD!! Forward, never straight!

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Sucking on a blood orange wheat lager tall boy. The brewery is I mile from my apt. . I consider it exercise walking to get beer. Package store is obsolete as of now. Still can't find strawberry beer. Mabey it a west coast thing.

Speaking of seeds and stems......
How’s bout a little of THE OOOLLLLLDDDDD COMANDER!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsq1K7f_yc

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Carlo....that Strawbeery Daze is a non-distributed, once a year to coincide with the town of Glenwood Springs CO annually WE festival...called, The Starwberry Festival....so the only way to get some is to go there and git sum!
Glad your working out while enjoying the nectar of the Gods.......personally I prefer 16 oz curls 😀

Speaking of seeds and stems......
How’s bout a little of THE OOOLLLLLDDDDD COMANDER!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsq1K7f_yc

EDIT;
Carlo....that Strawbeery Daze is a non-distributed, once a year to coincide with the town of Glenwood Springs CO annually WE festival...called, The Starwberry Festival....so the only way to get some is to go there and git sum!
Glad your working out while enjoying the nectar of the Gods.......personally I prefer 16 oz curls 😀

The back of the 2-28-69 vinyl box says Plangent Process.
It doesn’t say that on the back of the 2-27-69 vinyl box.
Hmmmm.......
Plangentizing the reels of previous releases?
Good call. Get it all Plangentized and backed up digitally in multiple geographic locations.
After all of FW 69 is out on vinyl can we expect a digital rerelease of the Box in Plangentized and remastered form?

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Even though one show is a Dick’s Pick and 2 others were packaged as a Road Trips (🙄😒) I still think MSG 1990 would be a doozy of a box.

As far as Dave’s 31, 79-81 seems logical. I wouldn’t mind a 91 show, 4-1 with filler from 3-31 would be mighty nice. Although the Samson and eyes from 3-31 were filler on a DP. Does that make it not possible or less possible? Probably. Who knows, bring it on!

Too funny! When I was a kid (this was probably very early seventies) my pops used to give me 2 dollars to ride up the street to the neighborhood convenience store and get him a pack of smokes and a sixer of that fine French beer “Jzobel” lol....I can still see the pyramid stack in the back of the store with the sickly green cans and they’d have these big Shazam burst stickers with 99c.....not even worth space in the cooler! Lol
So 2 bucks for beer, smokes and a whole bunch left over for baseball/football cards (my reward!) must of been quite the sight riding home on my bike with all that in the front basket! But it was different then and still a “neighborhood” and the owner knew us etc......

Plagent redo of FW box, boo yah count me in!

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So due to the recent hubbub around here, for the last couple weeks, I have also been on the look out for some strawberry beer an have found nothing. So after reading the last few posts tonight, I was feeling kinda thirsty, but no beer in the fridge. Down to the local liquor store and guess what I’m drinking on now. Yes sirs, Strawberry Rhubarb Sour Ale from Great Divide, and brewed in your back yard Oroborous, or at least somewhere close in Denver so within reach. Maybe you can provide. Tastebud comparison for us with the Glenwood special that you’ve been talkin about? I have to say, I think this one is pretty damn tasty. I like the can as well! It’s black with pink flamingos under a pink marijuana leaf, or maybe that’s a palm tree?....no matter, I like it and bought 12 of them for my weekend at the lake listening to some GOGD and hanging out with the family!!!

Peace all...have a great evening!

KCJ

And Oroborous: the rest of the tale is coming. You should know my friend, it’s important not to consume them too quickly!

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Don't hold your breath on a full box set reissue of Fillmore. They committed to a ltd issue and so far their word unlike so many others means something

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Bravissimo CaseyJanes! Great 2nd installment to your Gorge Saga. You've somehow conjured the ineffable vibe that has us all in its thrall. "We decided to post up and take a seat on these large boulders that separate parking from the entrance to the venue. As it turns out, this was a very fortuitous decision. There was already an old Deadhead biker dude who had done the same" is a beer spraying classic... Kerouac meets HST!

Can't wait for the next chapter! In the meantime, to my horror, I just realized that I can't track down Part 1*. Would you mind re-posting or PM-ing it? I may not be the only mental midget in need. Many, especially including me, have done lots worse in these parts.

*Could be due to several Desert Fog IPAs imported from ABQ & a fond memory of a Willie's Reserve Tube... Onwardth!

Regarding strawberry beer – maybe that should be left to Glenwood Springs?

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1/24, 25/69

Yowzah!

A big shoutout to my man Craig. Thank you x2000 for the CDs!!!

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SNAFU, good point, would probably take total remarket/reconfigure to get around that....which could be good, or just remarketed rehash?? I guess for those of us late to the dance it’d be good? But yea, maybe not possible at all.

Mr Smith, I would normally agree, strawberry beer? Yea, not big on all this peach lime peal double sour farmhouse session triple hopped yaddy, yaddy, yada........dam kids, get off my lawn!......but in this rare case it truly is scrumptious!
Key is it’s not overdone, very subtle.....So if it’s that one week of the year when it’s usually starting to get hot, and the Beers fresh and ice cold, it’s quite refreshing......and kinda like Easter or Halloween!
I’m of the ilk that feels like what the hell happened to Stouts, Porters and Ales?....I mean new stuff is cool, but not when there’s no shelf space left for the classics. It’s like having no 70s Dead at a record store cause they need more room for Taylor and Ariana et el....ok, maybe that’s a bit too far......anyway, #$*-=$& distributer out here refuses to get me my all time fav Anchor (Liberties, Porters, some of the new ales etc, not Steamers!), even if I pre order! Bitches!
At least I get thier Xmas beer cause I buy like 12-15 cases a year and beer man tries to take care of us.

Now, not to diss our brother Casey, I will certainly try and hunt some of that down and give er a whirl......it’s not like it’d be castor oil, I mean it’s beer for fugs sake! And maybe “sometimes you get shown the light”
Now back to this tasty 7/12/89, JGs guitar sounds awesome, man this 89 summer tour is really growing on me....

Oh yeah, brother CJ.......like good departed friend taught us about marathon drinking way back when, (which transposes to many things,) when we were young and dumenough to want to marathon drink, ahem, “drinking (or telling tales) is like running a marathon, you don’t want to go too fast, or too slow....”

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...All this talk about the ‘Fillmore West Vinyl ‘
release, has me been lsten’n to My copy/ Mix of March 1st 1969 is amazing and NEW!!! “Primo” lol...
Just listen to this part of the show and youll get blown away my brother and sisters...
‘New Potato Caboose’>>’Doing That Rag’>>
‘Cosmic Charlie’! Love it.
...All of the1969 “ Fillmore West Boxset” performances will see Vinyl treatment...
All the Performances included in the limited vinyl Release will be givin an ‘upgrade in Audio’ for a nice treat with each individual track...I’m happy!, the band is going back to make some positive changes & upgraded audio....🙏❤️🤠

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Apropos of a recent spin of DP18 Disc 2, does anyone know how many other K&D era sctreamless PITB's there are?

For those of you fortunate enough to have both the CD box and the vinyl releases, is there any perceptible difference in the sound quality between the two?

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