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    Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

    Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

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  • #531
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    To me it always seamed that the first night of a three night run was just a warm-up night and the goods would come the next two nights. The only thing I can think of to release this first night over say the last night is that maybe the recording sounds better.

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    Which one are you? So now we could be getting a no number numbered edition when and if we do get it, I'm consoling myself that at least it's not a '71 or '72 pick, guess what I'm listening to in the meantime.
    I do hope that Rhino isn't involved with MUATM on Thursday night.

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    So sorry for you UK folks, Rhino, you have done it again, how can you continue to make these mistakes and keep your customers happy? I hope it will get sorted out for you folks which it always seems to, it just sucks that you have to wait and wait for this release. I have not received my copy yet either, but it will come tomorrow according to the tracking site.
    I concur with others who have stated that Jerry is out to lunch on this show. I said it before, Jerry is slow and just not into it that much, sure, he tries to muster up something during a couple of the tunes this nite, but he just doesn't seem like he wants to be there. I agree also that there were better shows from this run and tour and yet, we get this one. I was hoping a new remaster would spice it up a bit, but from what I hear on this thread, it just doesn't make up for the fact that the mastro is off, and not in a good way :) and I have only heard the Charlie Miller pull.

    They try this nite and Bobby tries to pull it off, but that Lazy Lighting>Supplication is a poor rendition of a great couple of Bobby tunes. There are a couple of other Kingfish tunes that I would have loved to have heard the Dead do, Jump for Joy, Goodbye your Honor, Hypnotized, all had room for Jerry to tear up a lead or two and were great songs but they chose Lazy Lighting>Supplication which are also good, don't get me wrong, just wish they would have done others/more Kingfish.
    I am still looking forward to hearing this release and the art work is very cool, would make a great shirt....

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    If daves picks 32 is a 73 or 74 show this year will have been a perfect 4 part 2019 Dave’s picks series for
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    I hear what you are saying, Mr. Jack.. but I would still rather see whole show releases with perhaps filler on disc 3 from neighboring shows.

    I could be in the minority, but I don't mind having a few songs or even a full disc that get skipped from time to time.

    I just don't trust them on deciding what to cut vs. keep (remember Morning Dew on the Wall of Sound Roadtrips) and the shows themselves tend to lose cohesiveness and flow when they cut stuff out. @$9 a disc, I would rather have the full shows then to buy an official release and rebuild the full show myself with what's available on the archive/traders market. I do skip the occasional Mexicali from time to time.

    I see your points. I would expect periodic releases from outside some of our comfort zones once or so a year. I have a few shows on my wall that I have not listened to in years but I feel somehow I already got my monies worth from them.

    As an alternative point.. I consider much of the first set material from 72 to be very similar and it often doesn't get the repeat listens that the meat of the show does. ..but I would hate to not see it included. 74 is one of my favorite periods but there are a few shows where they seem to get lost on a tangent that I don't always want to revisit.. but again I don't like to see them cut out.

    Still waiting on mine.. it takes some extra time to reach the backwoods. Hopefully today.

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    Mr Jack Straw...I agree with the part of your post describing DaP 31, the rest I disagree with, which means nothing of course. I too, thought some of this show was a bit.....wont say flat, perhaps subdued is the word? I must preface this by saying that I’m comparing to other fall 79 shows.....
    I think it is a good show, I thoroughly enjoyed it, I think it sounds great for a cassette master, the set list is good, there are definetly some high points, but felt a few times like Jerry was not fully on this night.....(all of your examples for instance, though I did not feel as intensely as you did)
    So once again, I wonder about the show selection for this release, as has happened in the past, some of the recent 71s, the fall 83, and the Berkeley 72 show come to mind...all good shows, but i.e. “what about the night before/after” etc....
    Now before everyone’s panties get all in a bunch, I fully admit I’m being “the picky deadhead” here! As I’ve said I love it and I’m glad I have any/all these wonderful shows to listen to etc, but, perhaps others might also feel like there was a stronger show available, especially as a representation of this fine tour! Just a thought, please don’t kill the messenger! ; )
    Ok, enough nit picking, I’m glad to have this show, and REALLY glad they used a little variety. Sorry Mr JS but there were 30 years not just 5, so some of us want the best of ALL years! No doubt that was the sweet spot, but there are hundreds more, from most eras, that move me just as much! But that’s just me, which as I say means nothing!

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    So UPS say they have been trying without success to contact Rhino and Dr. Rhino has stated that they are working with UPS to resolve the issue.

    Unfortunately I think it is more realistic to believe that UPS are more likely to be trying to sort this out than Rhino. Time after time Rhino have committed acts of such gross ineptitude that it is hard to believe that they are still in business. As for communication, surely no one is as deageningly silent as Rhino. Possibly, hopefully, UPS will refuse to do business with Rhino ever again.

    I am curious to know if or when I shall see my copy of Dave's 31.

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    Someone on the Eurotraders list has been badgering UPS over all this and got a response that they have been trying without success to contact Rhino/Warner to try and sort what they are now realising is a serious problem causing major chaos to their European operations.

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    The tracking info that I can see on the UPS site is all over the place. The package starts its journey in Indianapolis, IN, presumably a WMG shed. on 7/24 in the early evening. Before midnight the same day it has made it to Louisville, KY, to a UPS shed I guess. There is the first sign of trouble - the activity log states "A missing commercial invoice is causing a delay." Half an hour later it seems to be back in Indianapolis. That is pretty fast, but there are not a lot of miles between the two places. Two hours later it is back in good ole Louisville. At 8:23am on the 25th it was being processed at the clearing agency and at 4:43am (Central European Time) on the 26th it appears to have arrived in Rotterdam here in the Netherlands. The activity log states: "Duties or taxes are due on this package." This is not what is stated elsewhere on the UPS website, where it states that the package is free of Government charges, brokerage charges and BTW (VAT) but there is the freight charge of EUR 81.88. The activity log then states: "Import cash on delivery charges are due on this shipment." At 12:22 the same morning of the 26th (in the relevant US time zone) the package is scanned in the UPS facility in (Yep, you guessed it...) Louisville, KY. Since then there have been warehouse scans in Louisville on the 27th and the 30th. I have received no communication in any form from UPS about charges or delivery and no UPS van has come near to my house to attempt delivery.

    My fervent hope is that the item is indeed back in Louisville, recalled due to action by Rhino and that they will either reship it without the freight charge or return it to Indianapolis so that Rhino can ship it again, this time using the tried and (reasonably) trusted method that they have used in the past. That method may take about two weeks, but it least it doesn't impact my blood pressure or my wallet.

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    it's gonna make any potential box ordering a bit of a roulette

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Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

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Submitted by Rosebud up on … on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 16:55

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Currently spinning Alabama Getaway after a lengthy import process (no track names unfortunately). However, the act of typing in the song names made me realize there are a heck of a lot of tracks with the ">" at the end - usually a good sign in my book!
I had listened to RoadTrips 1.1 earlier today while working from home to get in the mood and so far this is sounding "better" in terms of both tape quality and playing. Brent is loud-and-clear in the mix. Dick's 31 was a face-melter, lets hope Dave's 31 is too!

Play Dead Y'all

...about that box set that's coming our way soon (I hope)...I've been setting my pennies aside for the Allman Bros at Fillmore West and Orchestral Favorites by Frank Zappa so I dunno...unless of course it's something in my wheelhouse like The Ark as has been wished for...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 17:52

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I don't see how I can make the movies this year... none close. Which means they have to announce the box set some other way also.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 18:31

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Did this 74 charge just start on DAP 31 in the UK? What was the shipping charge before the increase? Thanks.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 18:44

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i GOT that show today

Wow

....buts there's JGB Bread In My Breadbox. Prime Jerry. Rinse & Repeat. Nailed It!! Definitely Danceable.
Or Shuffleable. That's how my wife describes my bodily movements.
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 19:48

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I am still expecting that they will make an announcement via email and on dead.net shortly after the movie, maybe the same night, maybe the next day.

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Submitted by RobbZ on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 20:38

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Arrived home from work this evening to find the little gem tucked safely inside my mailbox...kind of unexpected--tracking said Monday---anyway, going to be a great weekend! Hope everyone waiting gets their soon.

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Submitted by RobbZ on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 20:50

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...and Vegas is my 2nd home. I attend most of my concerts down there, I bootleg my booze in Mesquite on the way home at Lee's Discount Liquor, and I'm a huge Knights Fan! 68 days until puck drop......

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....I like the way you think. Ever since The Golden Knights came upon the scene, every other sport gets a backseat. Even my shitty Dolphins.
VGK gets shotgun. VegasBorn.
There are hockey fans lurking here....

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 00:23

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Did this 74 charge just start on DAP 31 in the UK? What was the shipping charge before the increase? Thanks.

The previous DaP issues have arrived from Europe. Presumably they have been bulk shipped to a distribution point and then posted out. Since the UK is still in the EU, for the moment, no customs charges apply to a relatively cheap item so they are delivered with no charge. Larger box sets can attract charges of c. 20% of the item price with a handling fee, this fee is not always charged so some box sets are delivered free and others can attract a charge it depends upon the diligence of the customs on that day. The most I can remember paying is under £30 and that was for one of the big boxes, perhaps the complete Europe tour. So £73 for a triple cd is ridiculous.

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Submitted by phantomengineer on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 01:28

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Just checked my e-mail, not thinking I'd already have received a reply to my 'fizzed off' e-mail.

His reply reads: "Thank you for your email.

I am very sorry to hear that you are being charged a delivery fee, for your copy of Dave's Picks Volume 31.

I have brought this issue to the attention of our warehouse and our operations team.

We are working with UPS to resolve this issue as soon as possible.

I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

I will update you on our progress as soon as possible.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Dr. Rhino

Rhino/Dead.net Customer Service"

....Possible light then at the end of the tunnel....!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 02:30

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Dtuck90-thanks for the info about checking the shipping details with UPS. I have just followed your advice, but after putting the tracking number in, and trying to follow up the status - nothing happens. I will just wait and see what happens I think.

Carlo-I haven't been asked to pay any additional shipping costs for several years for Daves Picks. I can remember paying extra in the first year or so , which did make me hesitate ( for about 5 seconds) before renewing my subscriptions. I'm not working now, so things are a bit different.

I can't remember how much I paid for shipping for the 73/74 box, but it brought on one of my dizzy spells! Which is why, unless this years box is Ark 1969 or Fall 1972, I may bow out. I seem to remember shipping cots varied quite widely for this box for people in the UK. I phoned up to try and find out why, but I never got a satisfactory answer, and gave up after a while.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 02:34

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Sadly this shipping disaster is not limited to the UK alone. Unsurprisingly the same situation applies to me here in Holland. UPS are expecting me to pay €81.88 (that is equivalent to $91.16 at current exchange rates). This is almost as much as I paid for the year's subscription with the early-bird discount. No other Dave's Picks has been sent using UPS. Why this time? I seem to recall that a box was once sent to foreign or European customers using UPS and a similar situation occurred. I also seem to recall that it was sorted out in the end. That said, one has to ask how this sort of situation can occur. When they send out the same set of packages every three months, why should someone suddenly decide to "do it differently" with all the consequences of such an ill-considered decision. This, of course, beggars belief in this day and age. A mail is on its way to Dr. Rhino. Good to see that he has at least had the decency to reply to at least one British punter suggesting that there will be rectification. Curious to see how this evolves.

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Submitted by Rbrons7277 on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 03:48

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Received my DaP 31 on Friday, a pleasant surprise to get it so early. However mine has no # on it. Top of the back cover reads "LIMITED EDITION:" and then it is blank. I must've gotten one of the ones they save for replacement copies.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 04:57

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all this talk about the box set has me remembering the fiasco that was PNW 73-74. Doesn't anyone remember the faulty discs from this box? I had to have 3 replaced and it wasn't anything that deadnet did, it was rhino. I would really like a 91 box with Bruce and Vince, but I will not preorder, I will wait till I have read the reviews and wait till I hear about any and all abnormalities with the box before I order. Now, if it is a 91 box, I don't think that we will have to worry about the ravages of time making the shows incomplete or big dropouts in the sound, but who knows, it is rhino after all and I'm not the biggest fan of their production procedures or their quality control. Still, it's kinda exciting waiting for the announcement. I finally got the email saying my DAPs 31 is in the mail, yahoo!!!

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Submitted by JackstrawJay on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 06:02

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nailed it (regarding the up-and-coming box)

he penned: ...Which is why, unless this year's box is Ark 1969 or Fall 1972, I may bow out....

and now back to my regularly scheduled program: Allmans 1970 FE...awaiting the September 2019 release of January 1971....DUANE was (is) insane....

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 07:18

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Again the boards keep me abreast of new things. I'd don't know if I ever hear about some things if it wasn't for the people here. Everyone in my circles wait for me to show up with "new" stuff. I can honestly say I am not the biggest Allman fan, but I am the biggest sucker for this boxed shit! Hope my wife doesn't retire anytime soon :-)

I MIGHT see DaP 31 today!?! Tracking shows at my post office this morning at 430. Certainly enough time to sort, but sometimes I think they don't deliver 'packages' on Saturday and keep it to just envelopes.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 07:33

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Casey check pm, got the mule for you.

Keith Fan,,,, did you get what I got for you?

ABB FW71 on order - thanks for the heads up. Finally received my 2/28 FW69 on Vinyl - thru sides A & B and loving it. Finally ripped GarciaLive11 so will get first listen today. My shipping notice says Tuesday for DaP31.

I concur the 2/24/74 show is the better of the two 1974 DaPs in question, if you had to choose one.

Vguy, sounds wild.....I’ve got to get back to Vtown one of these days, hell the misses has never been!
Best visit was a friends wedding.....out in some lush tropical courtyard, everyone wearing shorts, smoking big cigars and sporting drinks (under a wonderful “green” fog, ahem)....while the ceremony went on under a Grass Palapa, surrounded by palms and lush tropical foliage, and beautiful women frolicking in the pool......what a day!

Took notice of this in the article....
“The sound is a new technology, never implemented before, using beam-forming technology, which allows you to have the same experience whether sitting in the back or the front."
Hhhhmmmmmm? Sounds kinda like another PA we know around here!

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:09

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Just read on the Rolling Stone website that Dead and Co have dropped out and will not play at Woodstock 50.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:18

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A survey por favor!
What kind of blank CDs do all y’all prefer?
I live in the boonies and can only get memorex I believe at Wally world and there not cheap...
They also don’t seem to Last so well?
Used to buy online in bulk when I still played music since I would record then make copies for everyone, but I can’t recall where/what kind those were, which is a shame as they held up well but we’re really inexpensive....

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Submitted by frankparry on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:27

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Well I received an apologetic reply from Dr Rhino saying that he’d look into the delivery charges fiasco but in view of the fact that I paid not once but twice (I have two orders, one for myself and once for a friend) because I didn’t want to run the risk of missing out, I can say that if this isn’t sorted out by DaP 32 I will never again buy from this site. I noticed that there is a disclaimer on the page explaining delivery charges for international customers which is a convenient get out clause.

I’d really love it for someone from dead.net to have the courage to post on this forum with updates about this situation, caste iron guarantees that it won’t happen again, and apologies to the Grateful Dead community. I somehow doubt it, though, given the ominous silence over the dodgy discs from the last box set. Prove me wrong dead.net ....

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Submitted by boblopes on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:38

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I get the Taiyo Yuden / JVC Ink Jet printables since my old epson printer has a cdr holder. I think they're now available as "CMC Pro - Powered by TY Technology 80 Minute/700mb White inkjet CD-R in Cake Box - 100 Count"

It's around $30+ for a 100 pack. I've created copies of all my live Dead/JGB releases along with favorite soundboards. I think out of the 5 x 100 pack maybe had 1 or 2 bad ones.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:41

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This was part of ours...
https://www.postindependent.com/news/breaking-i-70-westbound-closed-at-…

We headed off after to work to return Courtesy car to dealer and pick up the misses car. Figured I go and we’d have dinner at the B-Pub, perhaps maybe they’d have some Strawberry beer left....all that normally about a 2 hour trip....
Signage sucked, only said “delays at exit 116” IDIOTS! The damn road had already been shut down for 4 hours! so we, more idiots, drove right into the “parking lot” that was I 70, only about a Mile from the exit....long story short after fuggin 2 hours I finally took the wheel, back up just enough, turned left through just enough space between cars in left lane, then ever so carefully traversed the meadian ditch to the east bound lanes, then finally got the hell outta there or we could have been there half the night! Of course “authority” did jack shit to handle the situation so people couldn’t get off the highway or go anywhere! Bet eventually it got pretty ugly.....good news was the dealer staff couldn’t go home so we were able to still make the exchange and get her car....the bad news, at that hour the line was too long for dinner. Oh, and no beer left : (
And to think I blew off going VIP to Rocky Grass (for various reasons) to have my Friday end up like this.....yeeesshhk.
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Submitted by Tim Newhaven on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:44

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Reads "Add to that the new sound Jerry brought with the arrival of his custom Doug Irwin Wolf guitar, and you now have the sound that would largely dominate, and define, the Grateful Dead's 1980s output."

Except Wolf had been around for years in '79, Tiger was the new guitar. Pictures show Jerry playing Tiger. C'mon Dave!

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Submitted by Infinitejest3 on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 09:51

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Looking for some advice on another pick! Im torn between dicks picks 33 and Dave’s picks 18(1976) with the bonus disc. Dave has said 33 is a personal favorite. Both are going for 90$. Help on the way....

I use Verbatim...look online about $22 per a spindle of 100...never a coaster in the bunch...Amazon, Newegg or Fry.com have sales going on all the time

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Don't look now but I've posted twice without Captcha hell...

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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 12:19

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5880 in Plano, racked and stacked. Listening now.

Love my PO, took mail innovation a week from ohio to plano, po gets it at 430 AM and here it is.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 14:30

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Slowly it opens.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 07/27/2019 - 14:33

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I hope the pushed out the anti-erase tabs on those tapes.

I agree with what you say in your last post concerning communications with dead.net.
From what you write, I get the impression that you have paid the asking price for shipping charges on this latest release. My intention, if I am charged, is not to, and then to start the laborious process of trying to rectify the situation so that it can be handed over without me being ripped off. If this isn't resolved for this one-31-never mind 32-then it will surely be the time to give up subscribing.
Anyway, I think it is important to keep the posts coming concerning this issue until it is satisfactorily resolved.

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