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    Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

    Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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    a completely different subject

    movies

    saw Rocketman in theater
    loved it

    we happened to start up the recent "A Star is Born" with Lady Gaga on cable last night

    we stuck it out, but what a bland, slow, overly-long cliched flick. You couldn't understand a word the lead guy and Sam Shepard were saying. Low Talkers (Seinfeld reference) and gravelly. "uuhhhh muhh muhhhhhh..." "I want to sing my songs!" says Lady Gaga. "huhhhhyhuhhh...duuuhhhhhhuhhhuhhhh..."

    SPEAK UP, MOFO.

    On the bright side, you do get a few fleeting glimpses of LG in the altogether...no complaints on THAT.

  • stoltzfus
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    thought i was cool
    tried chewing tobacco in 9th grade
    vomitorium

    tried smoking it
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    coughitorium

    tried clove cigarettes
    blechitorium

    tried pot
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    I can assure you
    having smoked cannabis pretty regularly since I was 18
    it is not addictive (lol)

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  • unkle sam
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    when I was in the military, cigarettes cost .25 cents a pack, 2.50 a carton with no tax. When I first started smoking they were 35 cents a pack in the machines, that anyone could access, including 12 year old kids like me. The term smoke 'em if you got em' I think originated in the military, at least that's where I first heard it. In basic training "boot camp" you were not allowed to smoke, at all, so you went cold turkey. Then, after about 6 weeks, they would light the smoking lamp, and we would get to smoke. The first time I heard that term was then, Drill sergeant says, "smoke em if you got em, the smoking lamp is lit". I had no idea what a "smoking lamp" was but I soon found out it meant time to light up and it was a mad dash for the door to find one and get one lit. They were nasty and mean about it, gave you about 3 minutes to get a cig, run outside, light it and try and get a hit before they ran you back inside again. That was the first time I ever got a "buzz" from cigarettes. We hot boxed those things, due to withdrawal and desire and actually got off, dizzy more than anything, so running back into the barracks was not as easy as it sounds, a lot of staggering and falling down for some, or hands on knees with head down until the dizzies went away. If you were late, you got to run off that cigarette on the drill field for about an hour or so. I should have quit then, but I didn't want to, if you don't want to quit them, you never will, you must have the will to say no more, and mean it. Or you can wait till you can't breath anymore, that is also a good deterrent to smoking. Yes, disgusting, filthy, stinking unacceptable now days habit, and yet, they are legal to purchase at any convenience store. Weed is much better for you but it isn't very good for your lungs either, but who smokes 2 or 3 packs of joints a day? not even Tommy Chong I bet. (I could be wrong about that :) )

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    Worse thing EVER!

    Like Led said, pretty much did everything but only regret the cancer sticks.....funny thing is, I didn’t really start until I was 28, Living with that 20 year old I told ya about....she did.....sure I used to have one out at a bar once in a great while but I was not a cough, cough, “tabacoo” user until then. Started part time, would buy the roll your own, you know occasionally rolling one up, then when I went back to college, since you had to now go outside, I didn’t have time to walk out there, spin one up, smoke, and then make to next class etc......so I start buying generic, like buck a pack thinking “yea, the way I occasionally smoke a pack will last me forever......cue the dark, evil, insidious music!
    So of course once you have em in your pocket and all ya have to do is spark one up.........add to that everyone around me then smoked so of course I became addicted. The thing is, I could quit pretty easy, luckily, I was fortunate to be able to do this with a lot of things.....once I made up my mind I’d just ween myself off and make sure I wouldn’t be around “whatever” and the people and most importantly the triggers etc....Tabacoo was always the hardest, but I was never a heavy smoker unless up parting all night, usually less than a pack a day. Loved the Camel wides, but got into all the boutique shit when I moved to CO where they have those smoke shops....
    Anyways would go back and forth quitting, and getting readdicted over and over thinking I could “part time” it.
    Then I started to smoke a pipe for a while because I thought that way I wouldn’t smoke as much, you know, part time.....then tried same with cigars etc, tried it all, but always would end up fully addicted. Finally after about 15 years while I was playing music for a living I got the notion that I’d just bye the Banjo player a pack now and then and just have him feed me a few during gigs, and not have any at home or around me etc. That’s the thing about playing; there’s often a lot of anxious waiting around to play etc, so smoking really helped that. Well of course that “part time” trick didn’t work either. So finally, about fifteen years ago I finally realized, just like twelve step “I’m an addict”, I’m addicted to nicotine and it’s either all or nothing, there is no part time! Once I fully realized that, it was the end of the season at work, so I knew I’d not be around anyone for a month or so, plus I was getting a respitory bug so I knew I wouldn’t want to for a few days anyway, so that cave me the perfect opportunity to quit yet again. This time though, armed with my new found realization there was no way I was going to tell myself I can part time it, you know “I can control this”........no, your an addict, so no you can’t etc.......that was how I finally gave the nasty shit up and have never ever wanted one again. Luckily, once enough time goes by your body starts to change and triggers like smelling it where you used to get enticed, eventually you realize just how nasty the shit smells, and it becomes a turn off etc and you feel so much better. Interesting, in 1984 when I gave up meat the same thing happened; instead of getting all salivating and hungry when someone was cooking meat, it started to smell like nasty searing flesh. This doesn’t bother me so much now, perhaps because I do eat the dirty bird now, but years ago I’d have to leave the room....
    Supposedly your lungs can heal a bit, but I’m worried that between the years I did smoke, and all the second hand exsposure, and all the shitty work environments I’ve been in, I’m going to be fucked....my old man smoked around us, not all over the house but down in his workshop, all the bars, and places I lived, hell people smoked on planes back in the day, everywhere! Ridiculous! The biggest tell is when you visit friends who still smoke in thier houses and as soon as you walk in it’s overwhelming. You feel so bad because it’s awful, but it’s your peeps so what do you do? I try to make it so we have to go out somewhere to meet up just so I don’t have to deal with that. Now I’m not some reformed nazi, I’m from the ilk that you do what you want as long as it doesn’t hurt others, like “jumping off that balcony” ,you want to drive with no seat belt, or not wear a helmet, or smoke, that’s your choice.
    It’s just personally I can’t take it anymore, it makes me ill......plus you have to go through theconstant waiting around factor like Led said and it’s just a drag.....listen to this for a humorous take on all that....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LyYLrVNKE68

    The worst is these kids that are getting addicted by all this vape shit. It’s such a shame after so many years of dramatic Tabacoo decline that the numbers are going back up among kids. Please, don’t mean to preach, but don’t do it chilrens!! Just ask my old man; started when basically a child, finally quit in his sixties, but ended up with Lung Cancer about four years ago. Luckily he has always gotten a yearly chest ex ray since he worked in a steel plant for forty years, so they caught it early. Thought they got it with radiation, but unfortunately a year later it had spread to hip and Adrenal gland......got the hip with radiation, but the adrenal tumor is never going away. The only reason he’s still alive is because of some new drug that works with his immune system to “maintain” the tumor. At his age they won’t remove the gland, and chemo, at the small doses he could take, wasn’t going to do it, so he was fortunate that he qualified for this drug which has worked miracles.
    Please, if your even thinking about smoking, or need some help quitting, just go sit in the lobby of the chemo ward at your local cancer center for just an hour or two, if that doesn’t do the trick......trust me, it’s eye opening!!
    Sorry to go on, but it’s something pretty heavy that we deal with everyday so if I can get even one person to quit, or more importantly, never start,.....well, sorry, thanks for letting me vent.......
    Now please back to our collective “waiting on a miracle”........dammit Dave, it’s a good thing I don’t smoke anymore or this anticipation stress would make me a human chimney!

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    As mentioned here before, it is now a Honda dealership; if you go in there and shop for a car(or pretend to), ask to be taken upstairs to where the ballroom was, you can check all the ghosts...

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Thanks for the Moore/Perkins recommendation...listening to their 1954 recording, great stuff!
    Now we need a Cats & the Fiddle w/Tiny Grimes box...

  • Dennis
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    Filthy fucking habit.

    My father smoked, he was a non filtered camel fan. He complained about cost and said when the got to .50 cent a pack he was done, just wasn't going to pay that for a pack of butts. They hit 50 and he quit, period!

    Fast forward and during a divorce I started smoking at 23. Smoked into my 50's. On and off at the end. Everytime I quit I used patches. I'd wear the big one for maybe 30 days and be smoking at first while wearing it. I started paring them down until I quit. Everytime I went back it was a stupid decision. Thought I'd have one,,,,wrong. Been off the nicotine about 7 years, maybe 8. Lungs may not get better, but at least I don't have the expense or cough up black shit while in the shower! Now I know I can NEVER have one,,, I won't even do wraps from tobacco products, too afraid I'll start again.

    Worst habit EVER!

  • Dennis
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    Thanks for the heads up. I real big fan of Nat. Guess I'll get this in November. It was nice to see the page talk about his piano playing. I heard someone years ago on a Jazz station talking about King and he was saying about how everyone raves about the singer, but forget he was voted (downbeat?) piano player of the year 3 or 4 years in a row.

    To anyone interested, pick up his "after midnight sessions" album, very, very, very nice! (do 3 very's make it primo? :-) )

    Really great album, let me know and I'll get you a copy.

  • fourwindsblow
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    Box announcement

    If the Meet Up Movie 6/17/91 is in the box they can't announce the box before movie night or a lot of people would skip the movies and wait to watch it at home.

    Traffic lights,Buses,Taxis,Crosswalks,Fire hydrants, Oh My!

  • daverock
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    I smoked dope before I smoked cigarettes. During my teens I would eat it, or smoke it in a pipe, but the culture in England at that time-mid 1970s - was to smoke cannabis with tobacco in a joint. Inevitably, this was what I started doing, and after a year or so, by the age of about 23, I graduated to the hard stuff...pre rolled, non enhanced packets of 20 cigarettes. I didn't stop until I was 51-I am now 62.
    The daftest thing I ever did was pour water on the remaining few in a packet...and then wake up in the night and try to dry them out in the cooker so I could have one last smoke. Smoking with a nicotine patch on my arm wasn't too clever, either!

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Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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Currently spinning Alabama Getaway after a lengthy import process (no track names unfortunately). However, the act of typing in the song names made me realize there are a heck of a lot of tracks with the ">" at the end - usually a good sign in my book!
I had listened to RoadTrips 1.1 earlier today while working from home to get in the mood and so far this is sounding "better" in terms of both tape quality and playing. Brent is loud-and-clear in the mix. Dick's 31 was a face-melter, lets hope Dave's 31 is too!

Play Dead Y'all

...about that box set that's coming our way soon (I hope)...I've been setting my pennies aside for the Allman Bros at Fillmore West and Orchestral Favorites by Frank Zappa so I dunno...unless of course it's something in my wheelhouse like The Ark as has been wished for...

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I don't see how I can make the movies this year... none close. Which means they have to announce the box set some other way also.

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Did this 74 charge just start on DAP 31 in the UK? What was the shipping charge before the increase? Thanks.

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SHAZAM

i GOT that show today

Wow

....buts there's JGB Bread In My Breadbox. Prime Jerry. Rinse & Repeat. Nailed It!! Definitely Danceable.
Or Shuffleable. That's how my wife describes my bodily movements.
I'm tall and lanky. Long Limbs. Elbow Warning!

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I am still expecting that they will make an announcement via email and on dead.net shortly after the movie, maybe the same night, maybe the next day.

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Arrived home from work this evening to find the little gem tucked safely inside my mailbox...kind of unexpected--tracking said Monday---anyway, going to be a great weekend! Hope everyone waiting gets their soon.

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...and Vegas is my 2nd home. I attend most of my concerts down there, I bootleg my booze in Mesquite on the way home at Lee's Discount Liquor, and I'm a huge Knights Fan! 68 days until puck drop......

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....I like the way you think. Ever since The Golden Knights came upon the scene, every other sport gets a backseat. Even my shitty Dolphins.
VGK gets shotgun. VegasBorn.
There are hockey fans lurking here....

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DTUCK90
Did this 74 charge just start on DAP 31 in the UK? What was the shipping charge before the increase? Thanks.

The previous DaP issues have arrived from Europe. Presumably they have been bulk shipped to a distribution point and then posted out. Since the UK is still in the EU, for the moment, no customs charges apply to a relatively cheap item so they are delivered with no charge. Larger box sets can attract charges of c. 20% of the item price with a handling fee, this fee is not always charged so some box sets are delivered free and others can attract a charge it depends upon the diligence of the customs on that day. The most I can remember paying is under £30 and that was for one of the big boxes, perhaps the complete Europe tour. So £73 for a triple cd is ridiculous.

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Just checked my e-mail, not thinking I'd already have received a reply to my 'fizzed off' e-mail.

His reply reads: "Thank you for your email.

I am very sorry to hear that you are being charged a delivery fee, for your copy of Dave's Picks Volume 31.

I have brought this issue to the attention of our warehouse and our operations team.

We are working with UPS to resolve this issue as soon as possible.

I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

I will update you on our progress as soon as possible.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Dr. Rhino

Rhino/Dead.net Customer Service"

....Possible light then at the end of the tunnel....!

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Dtuck90-thanks for the info about checking the shipping details with UPS. I have just followed your advice, but after putting the tracking number in, and trying to follow up the status - nothing happens. I will just wait and see what happens I think.

Carlo-I haven't been asked to pay any additional shipping costs for several years for Daves Picks. I can remember paying extra in the first year or so , which did make me hesitate ( for about 5 seconds) before renewing my subscriptions. I'm not working now, so things are a bit different.

I can't remember how much I paid for shipping for the 73/74 box, but it brought on one of my dizzy spells! Which is why, unless this years box is Ark 1969 or Fall 1972, I may bow out. I seem to remember shipping cots varied quite widely for this box for people in the UK. I phoned up to try and find out why, but I never got a satisfactory answer, and gave up after a while.

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Sadly this shipping disaster is not limited to the UK alone. Unsurprisingly the same situation applies to me here in Holland. UPS are expecting me to pay €81.88 (that is equivalent to $91.16 at current exchange rates). This is almost as much as I paid for the year's subscription with the early-bird discount. No other Dave's Picks has been sent using UPS. Why this time? I seem to recall that a box was once sent to foreign or European customers using UPS and a similar situation occurred. I also seem to recall that it was sorted out in the end. That said, one has to ask how this sort of situation can occur. When they send out the same set of packages every three months, why should someone suddenly decide to "do it differently" with all the consequences of such an ill-considered decision. This, of course, beggars belief in this day and age. A mail is on its way to Dr. Rhino. Good to see that he has at least had the decency to reply to at least one British punter suggesting that there will be rectification. Curious to see how this evolves.

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Received my DaP 31 on Friday, a pleasant surprise to get it so early. However mine has no # on it. Top of the back cover reads "LIMITED EDITION:" and then it is blank. I must've gotten one of the ones they save for replacement copies.

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all this talk about the box set has me remembering the fiasco that was PNW 73-74. Doesn't anyone remember the faulty discs from this box? I had to have 3 replaced and it wasn't anything that deadnet did, it was rhino. I would really like a 91 box with Bruce and Vince, but I will not preorder, I will wait till I have read the reviews and wait till I hear about any and all abnormalities with the box before I order. Now, if it is a 91 box, I don't think that we will have to worry about the ravages of time making the shows incomplete or big dropouts in the sound, but who knows, it is rhino after all and I'm not the biggest fan of their production procedures or their quality control. Still, it's kinda exciting waiting for the announcement. I finally got the email saying my DAPs 31 is in the mail, yahoo!!!

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nailed it (regarding the up-and-coming box)

he penned: ...Which is why, unless this year's box is Ark 1969 or Fall 1972, I may bow out....

and now back to my regularly scheduled program: Allmans 1970 FE...awaiting the September 2019 release of January 1971....DUANE was (is) insane....

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Again the boards keep me abreast of new things. I'd don't know if I ever hear about some things if it wasn't for the people here. Everyone in my circles wait for me to show up with "new" stuff. I can honestly say I am not the biggest Allman fan, but I am the biggest sucker for this boxed shit! Hope my wife doesn't retire anytime soon :-)

I MIGHT see DaP 31 today!?! Tracking shows at my post office this morning at 430. Certainly enough time to sort, but sometimes I think they don't deliver 'packages' on Saturday and keep it to just envelopes.

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Casey check pm, got the mule for you.

Keith Fan,,,, did you get what I got for you?

ABB FW71 on order - thanks for the heads up. Finally received my 2/28 FW69 on Vinyl - thru sides A & B and loving it. Finally ripped GarciaLive11 so will get first listen today. My shipping notice says Tuesday for DaP31.

I concur the 2/24/74 show is the better of the two 1974 DaPs in question, if you had to choose one.

Vguy, sounds wild.....I’ve got to get back to Vtown one of these days, hell the misses has never been!
Best visit was a friends wedding.....out in some lush tropical courtyard, everyone wearing shorts, smoking big cigars and sporting drinks (under a wonderful “green” fog, ahem)....while the ceremony went on under a Grass Palapa, surrounded by palms and lush tropical foliage, and beautiful women frolicking in the pool......what a day!

Took notice of this in the article....
“The sound is a new technology, never implemented before, using beam-forming technology, which allows you to have the same experience whether sitting in the back or the front."
Hhhhmmmmmm? Sounds kinda like another PA we know around here!

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Just read on the Rolling Stone website that Dead and Co have dropped out and will not play at Woodstock 50.

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A survey por favor!
What kind of blank CDs do all y’all prefer?
I live in the boonies and can only get memorex I believe at Wally world and there not cheap...
They also don’t seem to Last so well?
Used to buy online in bulk when I still played music since I would record then make copies for everyone, but I can’t recall where/what kind those were, which is a shame as they held up well but we’re really inexpensive....

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Well I received an apologetic reply from Dr Rhino saying that he’d look into the delivery charges fiasco but in view of the fact that I paid not once but twice (I have two orders, one for myself and once for a friend) because I didn’t want to run the risk of missing out, I can say that if this isn’t sorted out by DaP 32 I will never again buy from this site. I noticed that there is a disclaimer on the page explaining delivery charges for international customers which is a convenient get out clause.

I’d really love it for someone from dead.net to have the courage to post on this forum with updates about this situation, caste iron guarantees that it won’t happen again, and apologies to the Grateful Dead community. I somehow doubt it, though, given the ominous silence over the dodgy discs from the last box set. Prove me wrong dead.net ....

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I get the Taiyo Yuden / JVC Ink Jet printables since my old epson printer has a cdr holder. I think they're now available as "CMC Pro - Powered by TY Technology 80 Minute/700mb White inkjet CD-R in Cake Box - 100 Count"

It's around $30+ for a 100 pack. I've created copies of all my live Dead/JGB releases along with favorite soundboards. I think out of the 5 x 100 pack maybe had 1 or 2 bad ones.

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This was part of ours...
https://www.postindependent.com/news/breaking-i-70-westbound-closed-at-…

We headed off after to work to return Courtesy car to dealer and pick up the misses car. Figured I go and we’d have dinner at the B-Pub, perhaps maybe they’d have some Strawberry beer left....all that normally about a 2 hour trip....
Signage sucked, only said “delays at exit 116” IDIOTS! The damn road had already been shut down for 4 hours! so we, more idiots, drove right into the “parking lot” that was I 70, only about a Mile from the exit....long story short after fuggin 2 hours I finally took the wheel, back up just enough, turned left through just enough space between cars in left lane, then ever so carefully traversed the meadian ditch to the east bound lanes, then finally got the hell outta there or we could have been there half the night! Of course “authority” did jack shit to handle the situation so people couldn’t get off the highway or go anywhere! Bet eventually it got pretty ugly.....good news was the dealer staff couldn’t go home so we were able to still make the exchange and get her car....the bad news, at that hour the line was too long for dinner. Oh, and no beer left : (
And to think I blew off going VIP to Rocky Grass (for various reasons) to have my Friday end up like this.....yeeesshhk.
“Hang it up and see what tomorrow brings”

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Reads "Add to that the new sound Jerry brought with the arrival of his custom Doug Irwin Wolf guitar, and you now have the sound that would largely dominate, and define, the Grateful Dead's 1980s output."

Except Wolf had been around for years in '79, Tiger was the new guitar. Pictures show Jerry playing Tiger. C'mon Dave!

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Looking for some advice on another pick! Im torn between dicks picks 33 and Dave’s picks 18(1976) with the bonus disc. Dave has said 33 is a personal favorite. Both are going for 90$. Help on the way....

I use Verbatim...look online about $22 per a spindle of 100...never a coaster in the bunch...Amazon, Newegg or Fry.com have sales going on all the time

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Don't look now but I've posted twice without Captcha hell...

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5880 in Plano, racked and stacked. Listening now.

Love my PO, took mail innovation a week from ohio to plano, po gets it at 430 AM and here it is.

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Slowly it opens.

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I hope the pushed out the anti-erase tabs on those tapes.

I agree with what you say in your last post concerning communications with dead.net.
From what you write, I get the impression that you have paid the asking price for shipping charges on this latest release. My intention, if I am charged, is not to, and then to start the laborious process of trying to rectify the situation so that it can be handed over without me being ripped off. If this isn't resolved for this one-31-never mind 32-then it will surely be the time to give up subscribing.
Anyway, I think it is important to keep the posts coming concerning this issue until it is satisfactorily resolved.

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