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    Any recommendations for MP3 to WAV conversion software?? "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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    Sorry about that, fluff. It was LoneStarDarkStar. Looks like he mailed them out sometime after 5/19, Tommo received them, and that Tommo mailed it out after I did my research. Just a little lack of communication there. It had been 3 weeks since there was any apparent movement on that vine so I noted it. But all is well and that vine is continuing to spread.
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    I have already re-seeded More May 77. I will also re-seed one of MitD's stalled vines, Maples Pavillion 2/9/73 (a great show IMHO) and also Lewiston, Maine, 9/6/80, to get things started. Give me a few days to figure out who is next and to PM for addresses. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    (I) Northern New England Wish List: on 5/19 fluffhead420 said he would PM Tommo for his address. Estim8ed was after Tommo. No word. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
  • pomo1
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    thanks again and congratulations on the proper use of the word "perusal." After an exhaustive, and exhausting, perusal of all the Grateful Dead and JGB (and LOM, and Recon, etc) vines, but NOT vines for other bands or even the current incarnation of the boys, here is what I have: (1) For all the trouble we seem to be having, this is an AWESOME place. The MAJORITY of vines are either still alive or have died a natural death, i.e., the last person on the list received it and no one signed up after. My collection has grown by leaps and bounds because of the vineyard. Let's be grateful for what we have. It reminds me of the saying that democracy is the worst form of government, except for every other kind. Sure, we have problems, but all in all this may be the best place for Heads on the internet. (2) Communication is the key. Going through the vines, I noticed the lack of communication. It is difficult to figure out on some of them where the vine died. Post often, post when you receive the vine, post when you mail it out and to whom mailed it. (3) Although I initially disagreed with the recommendation, I now agree that we should PM the person after us, both to confirm they are still active and their address. (4) Emergencies happen. We need to be patient with that. Just let us know and we will be. As we all know, Hal has a family illness. He has a few vines and I am sure we all want him to take whatever time he needs. (5) As I said, sometimes it isn't clear, but when your name appears numerous times it is tough to give you the benefit of the doubt. For example, if 3 different people say they mailed you 3 different vines, and none of the vines turn up again, it is difficult to blame the mail (it DOES happen, but NOT to the same person that many times). (6) The bad guys. No doubt about these characters. They are the Bermuda Triangle of viners. DO NOT SEND THEM ANY MORE VINES UNTIL THEY CLEAR THINGS UP WITH THE COMMUNITY. Do not just send them a PM and ask if they are active; they have caused too many vines to disappear for that. They are vine killers. They have killed before, and they will kill again. (a) Chinacat503 appears to have killed at least 3 vines (Nov 72, Eurovines # 4 & # 5). (b) Markinthedark, once a great viner, appears to have absconded with at least 6 vines (KPFA, Maples 2/9/73, Flac Me Flac You, 12/27/77, Early Stuff Vol 1, 3 and Augusta 10/12/84); (c) gratefulmikes appears to have killed at least 8 vines (funiculi funicula, 93 by request, Legion of Mary, Winterland June 77, NYE 83, Summer 82, Greek 84 and LOM Mystery). NOTE THAT he is signed up to soon receive Europe 74 so heads up birdsong1969nj and Jimbo (unclear who has it right now)!!!! He may also have killed Red Rocks 9/8/83 (or Deadhead Ben never sent it to him) (d) Day Glo Louisville appears to have killed at least 4 vines (Eurovine Acoustic, Garcia/Saunders 73, March 28,31/73, Jerry solo 4/10/82). He is also an interesting person in the Garcia Party disappearance; (e) j.straw (NOT to be confused with jackstrawfromcolorado) seems to have disappeared with at least 5vines (Lewiston 9/6/80, Beacon 6/14/76, Fox 85, 3 from 82 and Hampton 89 reseed) (f) canyon critter seems to have killed at least 4 vines (Acid Test, 1985 vine, History Buffs, and Fillmore East 9/20/70); (g) PAPPYPGH appears to have killed at least 3 vines (Hampton/Harrisburg...84, 2/17/82, JGB 1977 Part 2, Silver Stadium 6/30/88), not to mention the Fall 79 Part 1.5 Rhino fiasco (either Pappy or Solix killed this one, tough to tell who). Pappy also should have recently received the Spring 88 parts 1 and 2 vines (Stephen in PA sent them on 5/28). Finally, he is up soon on More May 77 and JGB Keystone 12/21/79 (DON'T SEND THEM TO HIM!!!!) (7) Guys who have a little explaining to do. I am not sure here whether they have commited multiple vine slayings, or were just irepeatedly n the wrong place at the wrong time. These guys should explain to the community what happened before being welcomed back, but any old explanation will do. (a) Sakparadise is a suspect in at least 2 vine kills (Glen Falls 82, Fall 79 Part 2) and there are some questions about 2 other vines. Sakparadise posted on 4/29 that he would mail out the March 90 vine to Row Timmy. The vine has not been seen since. On 5/20 jackstrawfromcolorado, the good jack straw, posted the he would mail the Pink Floyd vine to sakparadise. That vine hasn't been seen since. It hasn't been that long for Pink Floyd (it was my vine, that is why I looked it up) so it may be ok, and Row Timmy has his issues so it may have been him on March 90. (b) Row Timmy was apparently involved in a couple of mysterious vine disappearances. March 90 discussed above and 3 from 75, which PKpotter said he mailed to Row Timmy on 9/12/08. (c) Brother Tom is suspected in 2 vine slayings. Solix said he mailed Cream Filling 73 to our holy friend. Brother Tom was the last person to receive Matrix Volume 1, and it wasn't until 2months later that anyone else signed up, but he doesn't seem to have passed it on. (d) Deadheadben seems to have slayed the infant Cleveland Convention Center 12/06/73, before it had much of a chance to travel the country. Either he or grateful mikes killed Red Rocks 9/8/83. And either he or Hard To Handle killed Sante Fe 83. (8) Guys who had minor hiccups [hopefully) (a) my friend Dave C was the last to have Early 69 (shoot, don’t know what volume this was, sorry) (posted 5/13) and should have received Early Stuff Vol 2 (unclejon posted on 5/20 that he mailed it out). Dave C posted that he had computer problems. I am sure he either sent these vines on and didn’t post (here, another call for communicating, post often) or is resolving his computer problems and will soon send them on. Ejjd is next on Early 69 and Jake R on Early Stuff Vol 2. (b) Darkstar1971 (aka Estimatedprophet 1971) rides the rails quite often. I think he is an engineer, the kind you think of when you are kid (a train engineer) but never meet. Hal posted on 3/19 that he mailed DarkStar1971 Fall 77 Part 2. No word since. DarkStar1971 was the last to have Orpheum 7/12/76, pisting on 4/20. Pomo1 is next for Orpheum. (9) Specific vines not mentioned above, many probably involved miscommunications. If you are involved here and can help resolve, please do. You don’t even need an excuse here, just a “I never got it” or “I sent it out” or even a “sorry” will suffice. (a) 3/28/81: Benny Jakes stalled this one for 3 months but eventually passed it on to On The Road Again, who apparently killed it. (b) Felt Forum 1971: greatfullygrateful was the last to post having it, said he had a family emergency, never posted having sent it on to Arkdeadhead. © Repatriation 1971: Fluffhead420 posted on 4/8/09. He was last in line. 3 weeks later Jake R and dpwstldeadfan signed up. No word on where this vine is. (d) Eurovine # 1: Dead Man Telling Tales posted on 4/20. He was last in line. Jake R and others signed up later. Now word on where this vine is. (e) Keith’s First Few Months: dpwstldeadfan posted on 5/6. Only Gr8tful Ted is signed up after. He may have received it and not posted. (f) Valentine’s Day: fluffhead420 posted on 3/9. He was last in line. Lord Monkey and Jake R signed up after. No word on where this vine is. (g) MSG 93 Part 2: Tommo posted on 3/24 that he sent it to Toddsnc. No word since. (h) Jai Alai 74: On 5/12 KingCargoJB posted that he mailed it to Emily J. Slimee is after her. No word since. (I) Northern New England Wish List: on 5/19 fluffhead420 said he would PM Tommo for his address. Estim8ed was after Tommo. No word. (j) 70 & 73: On ½ Estim8ed said he mailed it to Chasmo, who said he never received it. Probably lost in the mail. (k) BCT 86: on 4/13 ark deadhead posted that he would mail to Pkpotter. No word. (l) Little Bit of Jerry: on 4/14 Long Rifle posted that he had it. OneGratefulDad and Fleaflicker were next. No word. (m) 5 Garcia shows: on 5/21 cacthim hickory matt (or something like that) posted that he got them. Fleaflicker and Space Otter were next. No word. (n) Dead/NRPS 1970: on 5/5 birdsong1969nj said he would mail out to test4965. No word. (o) Pigpen Shotgun: on 5/8 Phat Moye said he would mail out to Jake R. Da roach was after that. No word. (p) Brent’s Last show video: lost in mail btwn gadeadhead and JimmyC (q) More May 77: on 5/28 Pomo1 posted he would reseed to Larry Here. PAPPY IS NEXT. LARRY HERE SKIP PAPPY!!!! ® More Mary: on 1/23, rambleinbearisgrateful posted that he mailed to Tommo. Stuman, then bearisgrateful were next. No word. Lost in mail? (s) Bill Graham Tribute: Playdead apparently killed. This vine was reseeded to the person after him. (t) Shoreline 91: on 12/24 Chasmo posted that he had it. ark deadhead was next. No word. Apparently Chasmo killed it. (u) merriweather 6/30/85: on 4/29 fluffhead420 posted that he PM’d OneGratefulDad for his address. No word. (v) Boston Tea Party 1969: on 5/11 Slimee posted having it. Dpwstldeadfan was next. No word. (10) I am too tired for final thoughts. All will be forgiven, except for that first group. I hope those that have disappeared with vines are ok, and are only AWOL here and not in reality. Others can figure out what to do next. I am not proofreading this so there are probably some spelling and grammatical mistakes. Vine on!!! "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    I think we should do all the vine stalling discussions here. Feel free to copy and paste my detective work here, Pomo. I agree re: the reseeding, especially for SHN/FLAC. With WAV though, it's one more generation away from the original so it isn't ideal.
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    to re-seed some of the vines that have crashed. Should we re-post Dstache's list in this topic and people can try to solve the issues, whether by re-seeding or prompting people or however? In other words, do we need a separate "stalled vine" topic, or just do it here? I also believe that it would be appropriate for persons other than the original seeders to re-seed where feasible. The original seeders have already gone through the expense and time of planting, and others should help to get the vines re-growing. Just my opinion. Thanks again for everyone's input and effort. If anyone hears from MitD, please let us know. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    Yep, I'm concerned too. I even went so far as to try and do some basic internet sleuthing to see if I could get any google/dogpile hits for Mark Stanfield in the Louisville, KY area. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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    I know. All the things I can think of what possibly happened aren't real good. Im trying to think positive though. Maybe he just wanted to get away... "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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    I admit it, I'm worried about MITD also.
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Hey t140v77, Man if you want to make an additional copy that would go over seas that would be the best option in my opinion. I think we have done it both ways but a separate copy would cut the chances of it getting lost coming back over the pond greatly! Just my opinion. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Have fun man!! I get my Furthur fun 3 days this weekend!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I did alot of burning and labeling envelopesand stuff in the last couple of days. Every vine I have except for FWGV#4 (which isn't taken) will be at the post office in a few minutes. I hope I didn't fuck up anything. Peace
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I will post it this weekend. It will include 6 shows from 1990 (10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 12/3, 12/4 and 1 other) plus 2 from '95 (that were on my list of Compendium picks posted here a while back) to fill up the second disc. I'm listening to a hot Help > Slip > Franklin's to open 10/31 as I type this. I'll start working on reseeding the 77 Part 4 vine once I am done with this. On an unrelated note, if anyone here subscribes to Hotfile and has some time to download a couple of shows (Rush and Rolling stones '81) let me know. I've gotten monthly passes in the past for both Hotfile and Rapidshare but lately I've both been too busy and haven't found much on the blogs I go to to find shows from other artists. Thanks!
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Have a great time this weekend and give us a report. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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that I'm holding up a few vines, but I'm experiencing some technical difficulties, both personally and with equipment. I will get them moving as soon as I resolve the issues at hand. Please don't worry, I will have them moving again soon.
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just pm me to see if I can accomodate the vines, or if I should be moved down a space or two, just so there isn't so I'm not so back-logged.
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Take your time man ... hope all is well "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Hey, take your time sorting everything out. There are good souls in here and don't feel any pressure from the vineyard. Good luck with your issues. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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maustin the music will always be here so be there to take care of what u need to. hope all goes well
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All, Just in case you are interested, the GD is e-mailing people that have a reservation for the "music only" Euro 72 package. The e-mail has a code to be used to upgrade to a "Big Box". Apparently some orders are being cancelled. It looks like alot of people (including myself) booked multiple orders because of the problems early in the ordering process. Best Wishes-Jimmy
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That is all I have to say to Rhino and the Dead store. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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in my part of the universe. Technical difficulties overcome and just a scare on the personal side. Turnin and burnin, got a stack ready to go. Now it's off to the ice for some sturgeon spearing come Saturday.
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Glad to hear it! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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I had an issue that took me out last fall and I am now back. I have VINES! ARRAHHH I am so sorry.......I have not been around. I have: Re-seed April 71 77 lossless part 1 (sorry Derek you worked so hard) TNHG Vine Lampinsky's Aud's I will do the work and get these out this week. Please forgive. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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JGB 3-6-76 "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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Nice to have you back and hope you are healthy again!
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birdsong. Glad to hear ur doing better.
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so good to have you back!
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From one Vineyard old-timer to another: WELCOME BACK!! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Wow, thanks for the kind vibes what a rough two months. Now if there is any vines, I've missed, been involved in or can reseed that people are looking for can you please tell me and I can finally get it all done? Thanks, Love you family ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Vine loving freaks (and I mean that in a good way), Following dstache's 'Compendium Picks' for the 1990's, I will be starting what looks to be 2 vines for 1992, about 5 DVD's total. Some notes: 1)From the Compendium 1992 list, regretfully, I only have a couple of the March shows and I don't have 12/5 which really bums me out because those Tempe shows were always quite good, and that show in particular brings back a lot of crazy memories for me =) 2)The 5/21 show is included in Cal Expo '92 Vine which is still alive so I won't include it here 3)The 6/25 show is included on New 1990's Part 6 Vine but that one may be in trouble so we'll wait and see on that one 4)Other than that, I have everything else from the list including the amazing Las Vegas May run. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Hey there,I have a few (4?) vines that I may have been holding on longer than I should.... I don't like to keep them more than a few days. I filled up my little hard drive with the few vines that I had already copied. I tried to delete out the junk I don't need but it didn't really help much. I just got back from my local Fry's and shoved a 1TB drive in the desktop....that should let me copy a couple more vines. I will be stopping by the post office tomorrow and will be updating the appropriate vines. I really don't know how you serious and long time viners store all the great music out there...thank goodness that storage is getting cheaper. Mike
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Will hold a lot of vines my friend. Yeah I use ext HDs. I can get a 500GB Toshiba for about $50 at the local Sam's Club. I think that is a very reasonable price to pay to store 500-some shows, assuming 1 show is about 1GB in flac/shn format. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Just an FYI, I saw that Target was running 1-TB and 2-TB external HD's for $85 each. Probably USB 2. Not bad for a 2-TB. This week only (February 20 thru 26) While supplies last! Best Wishes-Jimmy
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B-> KB->MB->GB->TB->? My first computer was a commondore Vic 20 with 3K of ram--a step down from the 64. Got it in 1983.
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i remember buying my first PC and the big decision was whether to buy a 386 or a 486 and whether to get 2 MB or really splurge and go with 4mb of RAM! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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I am back with it and want to send out the vines I have held up. pmail me please, I want to get things moving that were stuck with me. Thanks for your patience. I lost everyone's address in a computer crash so send them on to me. I am gone till Sunday but at that time will be putting a massive effort into mailing out vines. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Nice to see you, hope all is well with you and your family. Many of the vines vines may have been re-seeded, there has been a pretty large effort for that over the last few months. So we'll probably just play it by ear. Take care man! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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This show (Fort Worth, TX) was vined with the Mixed Bag I think. Now I think I have listened to as many shows as the average viner here. Now let me tell you something. I have heard quite a few "other ones," but this "one" is totally and completely addictive. The mix is great. But there is something about the heavy sounding drums & bass and guitar. I have been listening to this (Set 2) non-stop for several weeks since I got it. I just can't put it down. The 'Me and My Uncle" fits perfectly in between. On a scale, this is the #1 "truckin'/other one" combo so far that I have heard. It's rare for me to react to a show like this. Crazy man! Set 2 truckin->drums->other one->me and my uncle->other one->wharf rat
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that I am really excited how well the vineyard is doing. I haven't seen it like this in some time. So I just wanna say thanks to all the old timers for reseeding a lot of this music and all the new guys for keeping it moving. There is quite a lot of vines here so I wanna say thanks to cosmicbadger for the vindex to keep track of all of this. It definitely makes it easier.
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Thanks Jake. ....listening to 11/14/71 Set 2 again today. I think I have it figured out. The Other One here conveys a "sense of urgency" not found in other versions I have heard. I find myself batting my head with Phil's bass line as if I am on some one-way mission to save the world. The sense of urgency here is overwhelming and a hair stand up on your back kinda thing....
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I'm gonna have to check it out! =) =) Jake - I'm with you, it's very awesome to have the vineyard in full throttle once again. I feel like we have a very strong tight-knit group here these days. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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earlier todayhe seems to be doing pretty good staying away from the computer for the most part, at least limiting how long he is in front of it... I assured him we're more concern about him than any vines but none the less will do his best to move them along real soon. so, hang in there Dave!
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to hear about dave zep. thanks for the update. perhaps we should send him his own copy for some of the vines he is one
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"It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I have received 4 DVD's of '91 shows from RMB and will post a Part 1 vine within the next week or so. Thanks RMB!!!
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I better get 92 part 2 up! Been slacking.. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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"It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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derek and mark for keeping this vineyard going and brining in the new shows. This place wouldn't be the same wirthout ur effort.
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I have stalled out a few vines here..i was busy moving then the whole family was sick my wife and i had sinus infections my daughter and son had ear infections....feeling better now back to work i will have all vines out by thursday. sorry
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just a hiccupdamn flu bugs... Hope you like the new place and hope everyone feels better real quick!!! I'm headed out of town later this week (Thursday) - I'll have access for the most part may knock myself down the list on a couple vines... or have them sent to my daughter's where I'll be staying for most of the rest of the month (I've tried to not sign up for too many more the last couple weeks) :D
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noonie. thanks for the update. best wishes to everyones recovery and the new place
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Our house has been down with head and chest colds the last couple of weeks. Missing work, missing school ... Hang in there brother! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"