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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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    your pm's have what you want

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    R.I.P. Mr. Baker

    Until I saw the Beware Mr. Baker movie I didn't know a lot about Ginger Baker, only that he was a very highly regarded drummer. I don't even know Cream, except for Sunshine and White Room. I can't believe they did not get more air play on FM radio. Blind Faith is all I own with him.

    What impressed me the most about Mr Baker was his confidence in his song arranging capability. He made it sound like he contributed a great deal to the music production, not just drumming.

    Love how he scoffed at the mention of Bonham and Moon being great drummers. I would love to have heard his opinion on Peart.

    Can't believe he blew all of that reunion tour money. Horses? It's been awhile since I saw the movie. Was he doing a lot of drugs? That'll burn through a million bucks pretty quick.

    Well I keep telling myself I need to get into that Allman Brothers Fillmore East box set from 1971 as soon as I get bored of the Dead. That hasn't happened yet and I've had the box set for well over a year. But I really should by the cCeam records in order.

    Stoltzie. I started to listen to that 84 show you mentioned last night. It was late and I fell asleep after the first two songs but I really enjoyed the funky keyboard sound. I've never heard that before. You know what I mean.

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    Hmm. I listened to dew and Mabey it was a mic. swap at 2nd set break. Jerrys guitar vol. seems ok to me for a quieter song but like jim said ,you would not hear that loud clapping in the mic. so clearly at that distance. Mabey they had an aud. Mic. just for Dew but I doubt it. Kind of nit picking but still strange. The clapping seems quite loud on dew only. When Jerrys noodling on space the aud. Is quite distant. But it still a stellar show!

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    I did.. spent the last half hour listening to that with headphones.

    Mustin 1, JimInMD 0. There is something in that mix.. For my first listen, I just did the first set, then started with the second set the next day. But tonight I started with Bertha (why not) and then into the second set.

    I certainly screwed the pooch on that one. I wonder what was up? It was the clapping towards the end that just would not come through on stage.

    Sorry.. I was flat out head face planted deep in the snow wrong on that one.

    Good catch.

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    Listen to that Dew again. It's clearly a different source vs the first set and the rest of the second set. It's not just a few seconds, but the whole song. This has nothing to do with the crowd reaction.

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    Well put Senator. Cracked me up.

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    ....the boyz could place that particular song anywhere, even in a Day Job->Dew->Childhoods End, and I would be appreciative.

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    I don't think there is any matrix action on the '87 Morning Dew, but I could be wrong.

    ...but if it were a matrix, it would be part soundboard, part aud.. so why mix in audience? They often do this right before and after aud patches to lessen the impact before we go full-bore into aud territory, but this does not seem to be the case here.

    I think it's more likely that the crowd, being in New York, went ape shit simply because they opened the second set with Morning Dew, which was a rarity as a set opener by '87. So if the crowd goes absolutely ape shit, the crowd noise will come through the vocal mics.. and if it's really loud and well recorded.. for a few brief seconds it sounds like an audience recording.

    That's my take.

    As for where Jerry's guitar sounds in the mix, perhaps it was just the performance. On occasion they opened shows with MDew, and opened the second set with MDew, but I always thought the song was more powerful when used late in the second set, as a ballad crescendo-meltdown song rather than as a cold opener. I guess what I am trying to say is I noticed the same thing but had different thoughts as to the reasoning. As a set opener, they seemed to have a more difficult time finding their groove with this tune compared to when it came later in the set after they were warmed up, and often on fire..

    As always, I reserve the right to be absolutely, cold-opener wrong. It's pretty subjective territory, but that's my take. Perhaps I should listen to it again to be sure.

    Chalk it up to 70k New Yorkers, perhaps more than few just beginning to peak, flipping out and losing their shit simply because the second set opened with Morning Dew and Jerry and the boys being less nimble then when this song appears later in the set.

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    Yep! I noticed the same thing on Dew and commented on it in the Giants boxset thread on the phish.net forum. 87 first set sounds fantastic and then that Dew to start the 2nd set is noticeably different and sounds like either an audience or matrix. Things go back to the board as Playin starts and gets better as that song goes along. Who knows. Maybe there were issues on the master reels for Dew and they had to use a different source.

    Only other minor mixing complaint for me is vocals are mixed a little low on 6-16-91 (havent listened to 6-17 yet), but that's a very minor quibble.

    Otherwise thought the shows sounded awesome with a really great mix!

    Thought the shows themselves were excellent overall! Not a clunker in the set and the energy is awesome in all of them! 6-16 is a fantastic show start to finish which I was not expecting. Oh, and how about that Black Peter with the extended jam at the end? Phenomenal Black Peter!

    Awesome boxset though and surpassed my expectations a bit. :D

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    dont look at them ahead of time. Many pleasant surprises.

    If 5 8 84 was your "first time", vguy, then you got a goooooood one

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/03/2019 - 22:25

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....THAT'S the sound that perked my ears back in the day. The old news is now the new news.

Interesting article on the above. There have also been articles in British newspapers on ketamine, suggesting that it could be more effective in helping people with depression than the old tried, tired and tested medications.
Certainly, my mental health improved exponentially after my period of taking mushrooms regularly between 1987 and 1993. I didn't take them because I felt I was suffering from depression, but looking back to my behaviour before, during and after, it seems likely I was. Between 1987 and 1993 I met my two main partners and returned to university to get a professional qualification. The second relationship last 10 years and the career 20. Not a lifetime-but long enough!

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Submitted by JackstrawJay on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 05:04

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5 16 72 Big River soundcheck....Garcia singing lead. Everything sounds better with Jerry on it....why Garcia passed the baton on vocals? He was (is) a humble soul.

Also love Stella Blues from 1972.

Check out 8 21 72 BCT and 11 19 72 Texas.....

Then, to blow out the pipes: DARK STAR 2.13.70 and 4.28.71

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 07:19

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY Love My Girl! Was kinda out of pocket yesterday and missed wishing you a very Happy Birthday, but trust you'll be continuing the festivities throughout the weekend.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 07:22

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Couldn't find the soundboard, but listening to The DEAD's "Days Between" from 9/19/03 via the "OK" AUD on the Archive. Always been a favorite from the latter-day song book, but even more so now. Glad Gollum sparked your recommendation. Now if I could just find that soundboard. . .

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Submitted by BigDeadFan on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 07:36

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Likewise, could not find the 9/19/03 soundboard. If anyone finds it, please let us know !

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Submitted by MadDoc on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 08:54

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The email announcing this set has a button to pre-order the high-def flacs. I don't see it on dead.net. I don't buy physical products anymore (except Dave's because there's no downloads). I'm wondering why no high def link on the site. Anyone out there know?

Love the high def flacs. The Northwest "box" sounds AMAZING when played on the big fat stereo.

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Submitted by MadDoc on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 08:58

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Dyslexia strikes again. If I actually read the product description, it says flacs will be available on release day. I tend not to read everything because it takes forever. That and the fact that I cooked my coconut when I was young.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Sun, 08/04/2019 - 09:28

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Suppose you could add Chicago, Baltimore, etc. to the list.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

That's my choice for today's listening; Bill Graham's intro is so appropriate today.

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So yesterday I drove down to Phoenix (about a three hour drive) for a concert at the Musical Instrument Museum...I arrived in town about 1:30 PM which gave me plenty of time to shop at a few music and book stores...lo and behold I found a used Fillmore West box set for $99!!! Granted the box itself was slightly beat up but everything else is fine...so so so happy...found a ton of other good stuff, pretty much blew my allowance for the next three weeks but das cool...now the Mrs won't be home until tomorrow night from visiting relatives in So Cal so time to blast the tunes...I went to Phoenix to see Peter Asher and Albert Lee... a killer two and a half hour show of great stories and music...when I left the gig a massive thunderstorm was drenching Phoenix and slowed me on my way home...got home about 2:45 AM and was at work by 7:30 AM...yuck...done for the day now, time to scare the neighbors!!! After a nap of course...

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Brilliant guitarist-possibly the best country player ever to come out of these fair isles. I saw both him and Peter Asher, together with James Burton about three years ago supporting Jerry Lee Lewis. I was hoping Albert Lee and James Burton would come out and play with the Killer on a few numbers-but it wasn't to be.

I don't see much in common with the Dead and European Art Music or whatever we're supposed to call Classical music these days either. Phil might argue though, and Seastones does have connections to some Varese and Stockhausen. The only rock artist I can name who is truly fluent in classical music compositional techniques is Zappa. "Make A Jazz Noise Here" being a perfect example.

Nappyrags was my innocent attempt to come up with a user name for a Dylan site i used to frequent ages ago until they shut down...I was going for Napoleon In Rags but was told it was already in use so....I thought it was hilarious when someone from the UK asked me if I knew it was slang for baby diapers (Is this true?) so now you know the rest of the story...

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 02:30

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He is one of my favourite guitarists, and it was great to see and hear him support Jerry Lee. In fact, I was so impressed I bought a signature James Burton telecaster a few days later. Its a pearl white one-not one of the flamejobs, but it sounds great and plays like a dream. Although I think James Burton must have more fingers than me.

And yes...a nappy is a kind of underpants for babies in the UK.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 02:58

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I saw him touring in The Hot Band in either ‘75 or ‘76 as part of Emmylou Harris’s backing band. Great guitarist. Great show.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 06:57

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Guess it fits as most of my friends will tell ya I'm fulla crap most of the time...

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 08:13

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I saw Albert Lee with Emmylou's Hot Band at the Olympia in Paris, right after Burton left in 1977; caught James Burton with Jerry Lee at the Circle Star in San Carlos in 1984 or 85, excellent show; JLL also had Bob Moore on bass and Buddy Harman on drums, both of them Nashville studio A veterans.... I think Hank Ballard opened the show; incidentally, He wrote and recorded the original Tore Up Over You.
Another of my favorite Country guitar slingers is Roy Nichols; he played with the Maddox Bros. and Rose, and was with Merle Haggard's Strangers for the rest of his life. Yes...and Don Rich was awesome too!

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Submitted by mcwings on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 08:28

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Ordered one Giants Stadium boxset. They have charged me for two. I have tried to contact Dead.net and Warner's. Deadnet says you have to deal with Warners. No response.

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Submitted by perithecat on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 09:37

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Heads up UK heads , you can pre order the one off show 3cd set on amazon for £22 quid . ( cheaper than dead.net and no potential postal issues ) Probably best avoid dead.net for the time being . Unless of course you absolutely have to have the box set . 😺

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 10:22

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So, I unfortunately have only had a chance to read all these posts within the last 14 hours. There are so many things to say, but I feel brevity is best here. I will never allow someone else's "opinion" to upset me. People who need to validate themselves by insinuating that their likes are more "valid" than others' are simply suffering from an ego imbalance that is likely from long ago. I guess the young folks call them "trolls" now. I was told about 20 years ago, "Other peoples opinions of me are none of my business". That has served me well.
As far as the box, I will be happy to buy the single show option, grateful to save a little money.
Regarding Dave's 31, on second listen, I like it better than first. I also really like the 3 "bonus" tracks. I'm surprised no one has talked about the Cosmic Charlie tease at the end of Truckin'. One of my favorite moments of the show.

P.S. I realize that brevity played no part of this post!! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Submitted by rodrigodiaz on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 11:58

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Doe not seem like a lot of excitement for the box. The number will be 10,000. It reminds me of Spring 90 too. I bought it but was unhappy with the release. It turned out to be a real sleeper the best sound of the boxes so far. The UJB on rolling stone .com sounds better. I think people will be happy with this one. The box last year was a bit of a disappointment. My two favorite years but not the greatest shows. Did Dave leave the door open for maybe another release this year. Did he now say there are things still to come this year. Release 8-1-73 and 2-9-73 . They both outclass Rfk and watkins glenn in my opinion

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Submitted by Green Mtn Dead on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 12:01

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Hey, I've noticed that I often have multiple items in my cart. If I add something, close out without purchasing and then later go back to purchase it, the original and newly added items are both there. I've always noticed before I've finalized my purchase, but thinking this may have happened to you.

Good luck!

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 12:42

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Thanks for the tip. That's what I will be doing.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 19:53

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I really like as a deadhead when you stumble on something you have never seen or heard before!!! (Like the 78 July Soundboards)... You even get to see Keith singing!!!! ANyone have any color on this... was anyone there?? So clear to see also... Keith is amazing on the piano... I am a Donna fan and her voice is amazing especially on Stir it UP... Heard about the show before but never saw or heard it... Thanks Bob t

Where are they performing, the Bat Cave?

My basement seems bigger..

I have to wonder.. because I know what JGB used to cost and how small this place looks. How could they afford to carry band around the country playing in places this small?

On my first listen, just getting to the second song, After Midnight. I wonder who the apparently buzzed biker looking dude is that took over the mike asking for country songs or something?? The look on Keith's face is priceless.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Mon, 08/05/2019 - 21:12

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I should read posts completely before posting.
I got all excited 'cause I thought he was talking about Jerry and Merl from 9-5-73 on the S.S. Bay Belle. Also in N.Y. City Harbor for a Hells Angels party. Billy the Drummer on the kit. Also, supposedly the first appearance of The Wolf.
I guess the Angels liked to party on boats...?

I don't fart...I'm a robot. A Harley robot. A knucklehead. I "exhaust".
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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 05:19

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now that things have settled down a bit here, I will comment on this box. I will not order it. I have enough Dead. I won't go to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it. I have not heard 3 of these 5 shows. I will not order it. I went to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it, I must have all dead releases. Why am I so addicted to this band? I can not not order it, I must order. I will wait for the reviews and then order, I can not not order, I am a sucker for the dead. Why can't I only order the video? I won't order this box. I ordered the box, why can't I just say no? It's like a drug, I am addicted. I need help. Can I cancel my order? No, don't cancel my order. Will it be a good box with non skipping cd's? Will I be happy? Will the sun shine on my backdoor someday? It's all too much, I must get away from here. I must order. I will wait. Damn it, why is this such a hard decision? It's just a box, why am I so addicted to this band? Someone help me.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 05:27

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You made the right choice. :-)

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 05:42

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There's also the 4 cd Complete Potatoland set to consider now, too.

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Submitted by Infinitejest3 on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 06:13

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Unkle I have that same problem sometimes, 😂! But if you can afford it and will listen to it at least 10 times out of the year I’d get it !
Anyone else excited for the new tool album being released at the end of the month? I’m beyond excited for this release! Some fresh Artwork and 7 long songs, about 90 minutes I read somewhere!!!! Hot damn I’m stoked for this one:)!
Spinning darkstar from 6/24/73 this morning, amazing sums it up;)
I’m a huge 70s dead fan, 73-77 is my favorite era but the release of this box set has me listening to that era as of late, 89-91 mainly, really digging on some 91 ! Different beast but I still enjoy it immensely. Plus the technology and recording techniques, I mean for me , someone that loves the dead it’s fun to get some variety and some unexpected twists and turns, I love the 70s and that’s my peak dead but it’s fun to go for the ride through all the eras and see all the transitions, sonically and physically.
That doesn’t mean I support the release of poor performance and shitty quality albums , and I honestly don’t see Dave doing that just giving us a
Pallet with many colors ✌️

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 06:14

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LMFAO...you need a sponsor...sorry, no help here.....still in denial phase. I don’t have a problem, I can quit anytime...

Captcha got me this time...vehicles...is a bicycle a vehicle?...then they change it to bicycles...very tricky!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 06:36

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Ha.. you seem to have a problem.

Perhaps you could switch to reading books as a way to cure your addiction.

Might I suggest Dr. Seuss? My favorite is One Box, Two Box, Red and Blue Box.

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I am (Unkle)Sam, USam I am. I do not want this 91 Box, I will not buy it even if it rocks.

Would you, could you, from the Fox?

I would not buy a Box from Fox, I would not, could not buy that box.

Would you, could you, from Red Rocks?

I would not buy that Red Rocks Box, I would not, could not from the Rocks.
Not from the Fox, not from Red Rocks, I do not want this box that rocks.

Needs a little work, but it's early yet.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 08/06/2019 - 06:52

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"Do you like my hat?"

"I do not like your hat."

"Goodbye!"

"Goodbye!"

(One of my favorite Dr. Seuss exchanges from 'Go Dogs Go'....). This is what 3 kids 5 and under gets 'ya.

As for This box:

It surely rocks! I would buy it from a fox! I would buy Red Rocks! I would buy it even wearing socks!
This box Rocks!

Sixtus

But VGuy, WHAT songs did they play at that training practice? I mean, if they seemed sleepy, they clearly weren't in the correct headspeace and/or not enough mustard on those tunes. I would hope that a crazy live string of improv from say, '68, or some jazzy '73 was played but that seems not to be the case here. Maybe that dude on the Eagles needs a helping hand on his "picks"....steer him here.

Sixtus

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So Sixtus, curious and have been meaning to ask, how you handled the situation with the Dead End sign...recent move and all? Is it hanging in your new garage?

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