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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • LedDed
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    In my opinion, which means nothing, the Grateful Dead are much like jazz and nothing like classical. Classical music is meant to be played note for note and exactly the same, every time. There is no room to branch out or jam in classical music. In a sense, though immensely talented, classical musicians are like robots. I would call classical composers artists of the highest order. I would not call a classical musician an artist, because they are just re-creating, not creating. I'll bet that would get the feathers up on a highly trained classical musician, but that's how I see it.

    Jazz is what got me heavily into the Dead. The freedom, not knowing where it's going, never playing it the same way twice. The freshness and endless possibility. That's what you don't get with Mozart, but you do with Garcia, Art Pepper, etc.

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    ...I still have memories of my first Grateful Dead concert. My uncle, my mother’s younger brother, took me to the two East Rutherford, NJ concerts on 4//16/83 & 4/17/83. I was only six years old, wearing my favorite pair of OshKosh B’Gosh trousers and my red Spider-Man t-shirt. My uncle put his stash in my big Ol pockets lol ha ha and that’s the day I got my nickname, ‘Bones’! I still remember the party before the show in the parking lot. It looked like a giant playground & barbecue with these young eyes. I remember seeing mother’s breast feeding openly. No blanket or cloth covering the breast like you might see today. Back then, in the world of “deadheads” or “freaks” what ever label you choose, I guess it was just more open or accepted the ideas of being Nude. Lol, crazy some might say ha ha but what ever makes you happy and doesn’t cause harm to others, it’s ok in my book. Someone bought me a T-shirt, I believe it was my uncle but it might of been one of the many other people/friends we were with. Of course the size was 5xTimes my size but I still wore it, with pride! I wore that T-shirt from grade school thru after college. I finally put her to rest in my dresser drawer because she was falling apart and I wanted to save it. I still have it. At that time I knew only three songs the Grateful Dead performed over those two days. ‘Johnny B Good’, ‘Iko Iko’ and ‘Not Fade Away’. We had a lot of 45’s back then, hundreds it seemed, until it grew to thousands in time, as I’m a record collector. My grandmother loved all those artist like Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, Elvis, Chuck Berry ect. I don’t have mememories of any songs they performed but I do remember dancing to the music! A lot of dancing!!! Everyone was dancing or laying down it seemed but where ever you looked it was just ‘Smile Smile Smile’ after ‘Smile Smile Smile’! I think that was the best part of the concert, that Love & Peaceful feeling/vibe you experience inside yourself, like the feeling of being totally at one with yourself or the comfort of being at ‘Home’. Ahhh, yes!, that kind of feeling, the one everyone longs to have. Love each other my brothers & sisters, Love is the answer.
    Have a grateful day everyone, peace be with you all & listen to the music play , let it take you away...🙏❤️😎
    * Today’s my Birthday! 42...so I’m starting my day with Listening to the Grateful Dead’s Studio Album, ‘Terrapin Station’, one of my favorite LPs the band released, especially Love the remaster release from 2004 which was also included in the ‘Beyond Description’ 1973-1989 Boxset. Just a beautiful sounding album, job well done! I love the ‘Fire On the Mountain’ Studio Outake which was included as ‘Bonus Material’. Give that another listen folks, PRIMO. And I Can’t forget to mention the groovy LIVE ‘Dancing In The Streets’ to end the CD! Sweet, I forgot which show this version comes from. Does anyone remember ?
    Take care, Rock On!

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    IF Jazz is human scale and the Dead are orchestral and more like classical music, where does that leave us with the Dead and big band jazz? :)

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    I loved these tapes wore them out since It's the only live stuff I had at the time. I loved Live Dead the most.

    First show 9/22/87 age 19 now 51.

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    Provocative posts

    I always enjoy reading strongly expressed feelings, whether I agree with the sentiment expressed or not. What is a drag is when one poster sees fit to personally attack another one.

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    Your post several pages ago sums up very much how I feel about the recordings of the band during their latter years. Your is the first critical post I think I have read about the Warlocks box set. I have always been confounded by its appeal. I have tried it at various times-but its always a real chore getting through it. Terrible version of Eyes of the World on one of the discs. I wonder if the shows were elevated because of the set lists. Just as a dull looking set list can still be a great show, so a great looking set list does not necessarily mean that the show is great.

    Conversely the second Spring 1990 box-which is contemporaneous with the Terrapin Unlimited set that you praise is full of sparkling shows.

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    I recall reading something once from Jerry where he said something like when Merle played he was the center of the universe. Jerry seem to really like playing against a whirling Wurlitzer and I REALLY, REALLY love that sound. Probably my growing up in skating rinks with live organ music. The place we skated had a large floor, color lights from the ceiling made circular patterns on the floor, speakers were in the ceiling about every 15 feet and the organ was at the end behind glass, with Andy DeVito at the keys. You'd be humming around the floor with the color lights and sound swirling. And Andy would control the speed of the floor with his playing. He could cook on the keys and that floor be flying. It was an amazing thing. And I never tripped while doing it as a kid, but it sure felt like it. Years later during dead shows Brent's B3 leslies would send me off on the circular tracks again in my mind!

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    Maybe this will create thougthful conversation

    I hope this ground hasn't been covered,,, my memory is shit.

    You always hear talk about the Dead and Jazz, how their the same and different, blah, blah. I was listening to something the other day and no I don't remember what, and I had a thought about how maybe the dead weren't as much jazz as they were more classical in their structures. That the larger sound they had took on more orchestral properties than jazz. I my drifting, flash thoughts, jazz is never large, jazz is human size.

    Not sure, passing thoughts. Anybody else?

  • Dennis
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    I swear I read once Dylan consider Garcia to be the best interpreter of his songs.

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    FYI - I have one of the Resonance recording of Nat Cole coming,,, early stuff 36-42? Love me some Nat.

    Nice mood album, Nat King Cole's - the complete after midnight sessions,,, wow!

    The complete trio recording very nice.

    I assume you know the archive has a section devoted to 78 recordings. I've downloaded quite a few things from there.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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....THAT'S the sound that perked my ears back in the day. The old news is now the new news.

Interesting article on the above. There have also been articles in British newspapers on ketamine, suggesting that it could be more effective in helping people with depression than the old tried, tired and tested medications.
Certainly, my mental health improved exponentially after my period of taking mushrooms regularly between 1987 and 1993. I didn't take them because I felt I was suffering from depression, but looking back to my behaviour before, during and after, it seems likely I was. Between 1987 and 1993 I met my two main partners and returned to university to get a professional qualification. The second relationship last 10 years and the career 20. Not a lifetime-but long enough!

5 16 72 Big River soundcheck....Garcia singing lead. Everything sounds better with Jerry on it....why Garcia passed the baton on vocals? He was (is) a humble soul.

Also love Stella Blues from 1972.

Check out 8 21 72 BCT and 11 19 72 Texas.....

Then, to blow out the pipes: DARK STAR 2.13.70 and 4.28.71

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY Love My Girl! Was kinda out of pocket yesterday and missed wishing you a very Happy Birthday, but trust you'll be continuing the festivities throughout the weekend.

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Couldn't find the soundboard, but listening to The DEAD's "Days Between" from 9/19/03 via the "OK" AUD on the Archive. Always been a favorite from the latter-day song book, but even more so now. Glad Gollum sparked your recommendation. Now if I could just find that soundboard. . .

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Likewise, could not find the 9/19/03 soundboard. If anyone finds it, please let us know !

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The email announcing this set has a button to pre-order the high-def flacs. I don't see it on dead.net. I don't buy physical products anymore (except Dave's because there's no downloads). I'm wondering why no high def link on the site. Anyone out there know?

Love the high def flacs. The Northwest "box" sounds AMAZING when played on the big fat stereo.

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Dyslexia strikes again. If I actually read the product description, it says flacs will be available on release day. I tend not to read everything because it takes forever. That and the fact that I cooked my coconut when I was young.

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Suppose you could add Chicago, Baltimore, etc. to the list.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

That's my choice for today's listening; Bill Graham's intro is so appropriate today.

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So yesterday I drove down to Phoenix (about a three hour drive) for a concert at the Musical Instrument Museum...I arrived in town about 1:30 PM which gave me plenty of time to shop at a few music and book stores...lo and behold I found a used Fillmore West box set for $99!!! Granted the box itself was slightly beat up but everything else is fine...so so so happy...found a ton of other good stuff, pretty much blew my allowance for the next three weeks but das cool...now the Mrs won't be home until tomorrow night from visiting relatives in So Cal so time to blast the tunes...I went to Phoenix to see Peter Asher and Albert Lee... a killer two and a half hour show of great stories and music...when I left the gig a massive thunderstorm was drenching Phoenix and slowed me on my way home...got home about 2:45 AM and was at work by 7:30 AM...yuck...done for the day now, time to scare the neighbors!!! After a nap of course...

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Brilliant guitarist-possibly the best country player ever to come out of these fair isles. I saw both him and Peter Asher, together with James Burton about three years ago supporting Jerry Lee Lewis. I was hoping Albert Lee and James Burton would come out and play with the Killer on a few numbers-but it wasn't to be.

I don't see much in common with the Dead and European Art Music or whatever we're supposed to call Classical music these days either. Phil might argue though, and Seastones does have connections to some Varese and Stockhausen. The only rock artist I can name who is truly fluent in classical music compositional techniques is Zappa. "Make A Jazz Noise Here" being a perfect example.

Nappyrags was my innocent attempt to come up with a user name for a Dylan site i used to frequent ages ago until they shut down...I was going for Napoleon In Rags but was told it was already in use so....I thought it was hilarious when someone from the UK asked me if I knew it was slang for baby diapers (Is this true?) so now you know the rest of the story...

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He is one of my favourite guitarists, and it was great to see and hear him support Jerry Lee. In fact, I was so impressed I bought a signature James Burton telecaster a few days later. Its a pearl white one-not one of the flamejobs, but it sounds great and plays like a dream. Although I think James Burton must have more fingers than me.

And yes...a nappy is a kind of underpants for babies in the UK.

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I saw him touring in The Hot Band in either ‘75 or ‘76 as part of Emmylou Harris’s backing band. Great guitarist. Great show.

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Guess it fits as most of my friends will tell ya I'm fulla crap most of the time...

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I saw Albert Lee with Emmylou's Hot Band at the Olympia in Paris, right after Burton left in 1977; caught James Burton with Jerry Lee at the Circle Star in San Carlos in 1984 or 85, excellent show; JLL also had Bob Moore on bass and Buddy Harman on drums, both of them Nashville studio A veterans.... I think Hank Ballard opened the show; incidentally, He wrote and recorded the original Tore Up Over You.
Another of my favorite Country guitar slingers is Roy Nichols; he played with the Maddox Bros. and Rose, and was with Merle Haggard's Strangers for the rest of his life. Yes...and Don Rich was awesome too!

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Ordered one Giants Stadium boxset. They have charged me for two. I have tried to contact Dead.net and Warner's. Deadnet says you have to deal with Warners. No response.

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Heads up UK heads , you can pre order the one off show 3cd set on amazon for £22 quid . ( cheaper than dead.net and no potential postal issues ) Probably best avoid dead.net for the time being . Unless of course you absolutely have to have the box set . 😺

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So, I unfortunately have only had a chance to read all these posts within the last 14 hours. There are so many things to say, but I feel brevity is best here. I will never allow someone else's "opinion" to upset me. People who need to validate themselves by insinuating that their likes are more "valid" than others' are simply suffering from an ego imbalance that is likely from long ago. I guess the young folks call them "trolls" now. I was told about 20 years ago, "Other peoples opinions of me are none of my business". That has served me well.
As far as the box, I will be happy to buy the single show option, grateful to save a little money.
Regarding Dave's 31, on second listen, I like it better than first. I also really like the 3 "bonus" tracks. I'm surprised no one has talked about the Cosmic Charlie tease at the end of Truckin'. One of my favorite moments of the show.

P.S. I realize that brevity played no part of this post!! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Doe not seem like a lot of excitement for the box. The number will be 10,000. It reminds me of Spring 90 too. I bought it but was unhappy with the release. It turned out to be a real sleeper the best sound of the boxes so far. The UJB on rolling stone .com sounds better. I think people will be happy with this one. The box last year was a bit of a disappointment. My two favorite years but not the greatest shows. Did Dave leave the door open for maybe another release this year. Did he now say there are things still to come this year. Release 8-1-73 and 2-9-73 . They both outclass Rfk and watkins glenn in my opinion

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Hey, I've noticed that I often have multiple items in my cart. If I add something, close out without purchasing and then later go back to purchase it, the original and newly added items are both there. I've always noticed before I've finalized my purchase, but thinking this may have happened to you.

Good luck!

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Thanks for the tip. That's what I will be doing.

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I really like as a deadhead when you stumble on something you have never seen or heard before!!! (Like the 78 July Soundboards)... You even get to see Keith singing!!!! ANyone have any color on this... was anyone there?? So clear to see also... Keith is amazing on the piano... I am a Donna fan and her voice is amazing especially on Stir it UP... Heard about the show before but never saw or heard it... Thanks Bob t

Where are they performing, the Bat Cave?

My basement seems bigger..

I have to wonder.. because I know what JGB used to cost and how small this place looks. How could they afford to carry band around the country playing in places this small?

On my first listen, just getting to the second song, After Midnight. I wonder who the apparently buzzed biker looking dude is that took over the mike asking for country songs or something?? The look on Keith's face is priceless.

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I should read posts completely before posting.
I got all excited 'cause I thought he was talking about Jerry and Merl from 9-5-73 on the S.S. Bay Belle. Also in N.Y. City Harbor for a Hells Angels party. Billy the Drummer on the kit. Also, supposedly the first appearance of The Wolf.
I guess the Angels liked to party on boats...?

I don't fart...I'm a robot. A Harley robot. A knucklehead. I "exhaust".
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now that things have settled down a bit here, I will comment on this box. I will not order it. I have enough Dead. I won't go to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it. I have not heard 3 of these 5 shows. I will not order it. I went to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it, I must have all dead releases. Why am I so addicted to this band? I can not not order it, I must order. I will wait for the reviews and then order, I can not not order, I am a sucker for the dead. Why can't I only order the video? I won't order this box. I ordered the box, why can't I just say no? It's like a drug, I am addicted. I need help. Can I cancel my order? No, don't cancel my order. Will it be a good box with non skipping cd's? Will I be happy? Will the sun shine on my backdoor someday? It's all too much, I must get away from here. I must order. I will wait. Damn it, why is this such a hard decision? It's just a box, why am I so addicted to this band? Someone help me.

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You made the right choice. :-)

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There's also the 4 cd Complete Potatoland set to consider now, too.

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Unkle I have that same problem sometimes, 😂! But if you can afford it and will listen to it at least 10 times out of the year I’d get it !
Anyone else excited for the new tool album being released at the end of the month? I’m beyond excited for this release! Some fresh Artwork and 7 long songs, about 90 minutes I read somewhere!!!! Hot damn I’m stoked for this one:)!
Spinning darkstar from 6/24/73 this morning, amazing sums it up;)
I’m a huge 70s dead fan, 73-77 is my favorite era but the release of this box set has me listening to that era as of late, 89-91 mainly, really digging on some 91 ! Different beast but I still enjoy it immensely. Plus the technology and recording techniques, I mean for me , someone that loves the dead it’s fun to get some variety and some unexpected twists and turns, I love the 70s and that’s my peak dead but it’s fun to go for the ride through all the eras and see all the transitions, sonically and physically.
That doesn’t mean I support the release of poor performance and shitty quality albums , and I honestly don’t see Dave doing that just giving us a
Pallet with many colors ✌️

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LMFAO...you need a sponsor...sorry, no help here.....still in denial phase. I don’t have a problem, I can quit anytime...

Captcha got me this time...vehicles...is a bicycle a vehicle?...then they change it to bicycles...very tricky!

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Ha.. you seem to have a problem.

Perhaps you could switch to reading books as a way to cure your addiction.

Might I suggest Dr. Seuss? My favorite is One Box, Two Box, Red and Blue Box.

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I am (Unkle)Sam, USam I am. I do not want this 91 Box, I will not buy it even if it rocks.

Would you, could you, from the Fox?

I would not buy a Box from Fox, I would not, could not buy that box.

Would you, could you, from Red Rocks?

I would not buy that Red Rocks Box, I would not, could not from the Rocks.
Not from the Fox, not from Red Rocks, I do not want this box that rocks.

Needs a little work, but it's early yet.

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"Do you like my hat?"

"I do not like your hat."

"Goodbye!"

"Goodbye!"

(One of my favorite Dr. Seuss exchanges from 'Go Dogs Go'....). This is what 3 kids 5 and under gets 'ya.

As for This box:

It surely rocks! I would buy it from a fox! I would buy Red Rocks! I would buy it even wearing socks!
This box Rocks!

Sixtus

But VGuy, WHAT songs did they play at that training practice? I mean, if they seemed sleepy, they clearly weren't in the correct headspeace and/or not enough mustard on those tunes. I would hope that a crazy live string of improv from say, '68, or some jazzy '73 was played but that seems not to be the case here. Maybe that dude on the Eagles needs a helping hand on his "picks"....steer him here.

Sixtus

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So Sixtus, curious and have been meaning to ask, how you handled the situation with the Dead End sign...recent move and all? Is it hanging in your new garage?

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