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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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    Naps and Cuz and Cats and Fiddle

    Found Cats and Fiddle on archive and have started downloading. And just because I'm and idiot, found a 300 song collection of old Russians songs on 78's. Downloaded and no I don't speak Russian!

    Funny thing about the name Cats and Fiddle. I grew up in a beach community in Jersey. When I was young there was a bar on the beach called "the cat and the Fiddle". Link below will take you to a page about said bar.

    http://aberdeennjlife.blogspot.com/2014/06/history-cat-n-fiddle-cliffwo…

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    Classical irony

    Ironically a term used to deride the Dead's music, "noodling", was coined to describe Mozart himself, who may have been the most brilliant musician of the 18th Century. But his habit of playing solos in different modes was as annoying to some musical purists of his day as they were to those who didn't appreciate Jerry's ability to do the same thing 200 years later.

    I'll set aside some money and pick this up just before release date. With PacNW and July '78 still available, I don't see this selling out by the end of September.

    Eta: let's not forget Phil and TC's connection to classical and modern classical, or post-modern classical. Jerry once likened Phil's bass playing to acting as if it were a cello weaving counterpoint, rhythms, and lead melodies through the same song.

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    I think (not know), classical tunes are different based on the interpretation of the conductor. That's what they bring. The musicians are the tools of his trade. If the conductor wants some piece to be louder and more forward, he hires more violinist. His ONLY volume control is more of the same instruments, that's where you get 50 guys in tuxs standing up at the same time to hit the same note. But his 'wall of sound' is the horseshoe shape of the pit. When the 'lead' of the song moves thru the pit you can actually hear the motion. The sound is more than just the notes, it's the movement of the sound in front of you.

    The dead seem to be able to control their sound stage to a 3D image that moved. They got big.

    What do I know? But one of the very few that had the equipment to make that happen.

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    I've counted five people so far....

    ....that are 51, including myself. Let's hear it for the class of '86!!!

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    Happy B-Day. Our crew was at 4/16. Didn't see you? 4/16 Stephen Stills showed up. But for me 4/16 is the GREATEST Looks Like Rain. Jerry tears the shit out of the end,,,, like raindrops falling on you and Bobby gives some of his best screams.

    "can't take no more fuckin rain today"

    Here for your birthday, my soundboard copy of Looks Like Rain

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5g0w1db4xkvfyx8/09%20-%20Looks%20Like%20Rain…

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    Happy Birthday LMG

    Enjoyed the recollection of your first show!

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    Giant Stadium movie was fun. Vinnie had some bright moments. Bruce was really listening and paying attention. 1991 had some high moments. Talk about tickling those ivories. I really enjoyed August 91 at Shoreline. Grateful Dead (all things/keyboards) why just eat a sandwich when you’re at a smorgasbord .

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    The idea that a classical piece is fixed and sounds the same whoever plays it is simply wrong. Some versions of ‘The Rite of Spring’ by Stravinsky are electrifying and ecstatic, others are pedestrian. I have at least 5 versions of ‘Music for 18 Musicians’ by Steve Reich, they are all different. This is equally true for pre-20th century classical as well.

    I am looking forward to the release of another box set in September as well as the GD one. The Another Timbre label is releasing a five CD set of Morton Feldman piano pieces, that should be stunning.

    My own musical interests range through folk, country, pop, jazz, free improvisation ( check out the Emanem label), Classical and even the Grateful Dead.

    All musical appreciation is subjective. I might recommend some music but I’d never argue that someone is wrong if they don’t like it. There is very little music that doesn’t have some appeal to me but, as The Incredible String Band said, “Music is so much less than what you are”

    Look forward to the future, what else is there?

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    My older sister went off to College in 85 and left behind two tapes in our mother's car. Shakedown Street and a bootleg from 12/30/83. I had no idea what they were but I gave them a try and was hooked immediately. I still have that 83 cassette and played it until 2011. First show was the old Metrodome in June of 86. Dylan, the Dead and Petty. Went to Alpine two days later and that was a crazy experience. 48 now and miss those days when I went to all the shows the boys played in MN and WI from 86-89. Wish I went to more across the country.
    Went to the MUATM on Thursday. I have not been a huge post Brent era fan, but thought this show was awesome! Really surprised me how good it was. The Eyes opener just cooks and Jerry is on all night. If you like this band, you will like this show. I am really looking forward to this box!

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    Is that right, that classical music is always played the same way by different musicians? I can remember buying my uncle, who was a classical music enthusiast,an album-maybe the composer was Mozart-decades ago. I was chastened to realise that he already had the music, but bemused to hear that he hadn't got the version I had bought him. I had assumed that if you bought a symphony on record, one was as good as another. Not so-at least according to my uncle. I have never got into classical music myself, I have to say.

    Nice story from LMG about his first Dead show. Also a nod to Terrapin Station the album, and earlier nods on here to the official Dead live albums that came out. I haven't heard most of the Dead's studio/live albums, including Terrapin, for years. The ones I have played most over the last 10 years or so have been Anthem, Live Dead and Blues For Allah.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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I attended '86 both shows. Those were also fun. Didn't go in '88 but did for the middle night of '89. Also attended the Family Reunion.

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Seems to have a lot going for it !

Regarding Neal Casal's recent appearance...maybe we all wear masks, to a greater or lesser extent.

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Was unbelievable. Four shows! And I think that was the year we were dealing with a drought. 100 plus every day. I don't know how we survived in the parking lot for four days.

Listened to the 78 30 Trips show last night, the first set. Wow! The opener Half Step, is Soo good. Great sound quality on this one. Top tier show for sure. Check it out if you haven't listened to it for a while.

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What a fun venue.. Made it to 87 and 88.. but thinking back my memories are specific and tunneled. I don't have a broad recollection of the entire weeks from those years.

Looks like the old man's getting old. :D

Anyway.. great times. One year we camped at Bong Recreational Area (which is nearby) just because, well.. we had to. Lot's of heads there, pretty chill place.

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That’s where I stayed in 89.

How can you not hit the Bong if you’re in the area.

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As a child of southern Wisconsin (ages 0-17 in Milwaukee suburbs and ages 17+ in a Madison suburb), Alpine Valley was THE concert venue. I saw lots of fun shows there in the late 80s and early 90s-- Rolling Stones Steel Wheels tour, Clapton 1988 and 1990 (RIP SRV, today if memory serves), and Grateful Dead 1988 and 1989.

The GD 88 show was my first trip to Alpine and my first Dead show. That was the summer of drought-- it was so very hot and dry all summer long. I was at the first night of that run with a group of high school friends, all Alpine and GD virgins. It was so crowded that summer-- we didn't even get to park in the lots. Four of us turned into Heads that day, the others simply had a good time, never to see the Dead again.

We all know about 1989-- when, oh when, will they release those shows like they are doing with this Giants Stadium box? All three nights my friend and I worked our way to the front of the lawn and had a fine time. We camped in the lot and went to sleep every night to the sound of filling balloons, though I never partook. I never did tour and only saw them at Alpine and Chicagoland, but those three nights at Alpine were by far the best GD shows I saw.

The Clapton shows are seared in my memory. 1988 was great with Knopfler on 2nd guitar. I have a funny story about that night, but it doesn't come across in writing, so I only tell that story live. I was at the first night of the 2 night stand with SRV, Robert Cray and Buddy Guy-- tripping balls in a sea of drunks. But an amazing time was had and SRV just blew my mind. I still can picture him in this purple shirt during Voodoo Chile. My friends and I walked out of there in a daze, 'what the hell just happened.' And then he was dead-- I have trouble listening to SRV because it makes me so damn sad. He was on the cusp of greatness... It was foggy that night, too (they blame the fog for the helicopter accident). My friend almost got us killed by getting on the wrong side of a median when a highway added a median at one point-- couldn't see the split for the fog.

Sorry about the memory lane, but this is the anniversary of SRV's last...

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HBO, wow, spinners in '74. Before I asked about the "twirlers", I would have guessed it began with the Touch Heads. I pictured '74 as more of the dance you see in Sunshine Daydream and the Grateful Dead Movie.

I think someone mentioned 11/20/78. I don't think I've heard this one. Will have to check it out.

Spacebro, glad to see you're so stoked forthe box set. I had no idea how nany times you'd seen them (didn'tyou say the number was in the 50s?). How did you get around from show to show? Did you bring a tent? Caravan with others? Did you stay within a certain radius of home or just follow them from city to city?

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Bong Recreation area?......how did we miss that one! That’s even better than Big Bone Lick State park we stayed at in Kentucky after 86 Riverbend! Lol. Good ole Alpine, had so much fun I can’t remember most....also almost got arrested damn near every time I was there. No particular reason, just coincidence or wrong place at right time. Luckily tragedy was always narrowly averted! Some great stories there but not now....yessir 86, 87, and first 2 of 89 for this camper.
Sigh, where have all the good times gone!

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I would say that he achieved greatness. Lot's of cool stuff from SRV, but I still dig the album Couldn't Stand the Weather most of all, from start to finish, particularly the title song. Maybe because that was my first exposure to SRV in summer '84. In fact, just threw it on after reading Estimated Eyes post. Recently discovered that he also played lead guitar on the Bowie album Let's Dance. Gone too soon in any event.

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.... c'mon people. I can only cast and reel in so many lures.
They are really good.
I'm not giving up.

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Never saw a show at Alpine, but in '97 with every last possession I owned in a Honda Prelude, and moving from Charlottesville, VA to Seattle, I came across the Bong Rec Area. Took a picture, but I can't figure out how to post it on this forum. That really cracked me up at the time, unfortunately I didn't have time to pull over and indulge. I haven't looked at that picture in years, but mine has a green sign that says "Burlington 17 miles" and just below it a brown sign that reads "Bong Recreation Area 9 miles".

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Believe it's near Kenosha. I used to live remotely in the area. Now I'm on the other side of the state and a bit further north. Pretty sure it's Richard J. Bong Rec Area. Named after a WI born Air Force pilot. And yes, I have hit the Bong. Looooong time ago though. :-)

https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/parks/name/richardbong/

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...I truly am enjoying this thread, people.

Speaking of new Rec Areas....nuevo casa de Sixtus in Sudbury, MA has officially 'closed' as of today.
New Keys In-Hand.
And, somehow, we actually made some loot on this deal. I'm still stunned by that one.
Party Planning Commencing.
Oy Joyous day.

Happy Long (USA) Holiday Weekend Folks.

Sixtus

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Me and the Mrs. recently ventured down that same path.

We have lots of really good wine. What time shall we come over?

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Great LIFE magazine reissue from 2015 currently on news stands or eBay (cover has them in photo outtake from Road Trips Vol. 1 No. 1 from 1979, with Phil in the aviator cap and glasses. If you didn't read it in 2015, I highly recommend it for $9.99. Tons of great pictures. Fantastic articles, and I'm only as far as the description of it all coming together with the SF music scene.

Last two:

Veneta 8/27/72 - morphed me from 15 show casual Grateful Dead fan to raging Dead Head in April 2014. I hadn't been listening to much Dead that year, but I saw it on the shelf at Barnes & Noble and the hype sticker caught my eye: "At long last! The most requested show in Grateful Dead history" I hadn't heard of it before, but it was from '72, as was Rockin' The Rhein, the show that reeled me in nearly 10 years prior to that fateful day (despite having seen them in '89 & '95). So I bought it. Uhhhh, Bird Song did NOT sound this good on Ladies & Gentlemen or Three From The Vault. And as cool as Rhein's Dark Star was (especially Part II), Veneta was something far superior in my mind; but more to the point, it was altogether different except for the verses. I see how this Dark Star works now.....they improvise around some verses for a half hour. If only they had a dozen more of these on multi-track....
Dick crapped on this show, but he never heard the Full Norman, so all's forgiven. This one always gets an anniversary play. "Can you turn it up?? For fuck's sake?" Classic Bobby.

The Mosque 5/25/77 - About two months after picking up Veneta, I'd gotten my filthy hands on every E72 show available on dead.net. Up until then I was very anti-two-track. I had Dick's Picks 16, 18, & 20 from my initial run of shows I bought in the 10 years between Rhein and Veneta. Because of those, I had a hard time adjusting to two-track quality; but in my lust to own the best version of every song the Dead played live, I nabbed Dave's Picks 7 for The Music Never Stopped, which the folks on Heady Version assured me was unparalleled (plus it had Werewolves Of London - how bad could it be).

By August, just four months after the "Veneta experience" I was a completist at heart and had no desire to listen to anything else than the Dead (this is around the time I signed up here on dead.net and met all of you fine people). I had gotten over the two-track hump and picked up a metric shit-ton of out-of-stock Road Trips and Dave's Picks.

There was this elusive Dave's Picks Volume 1, however, that was selling for $200+ on eBay. Whoaa, what was that all about?!? So I did some investigation, and by all accounts it was the best thing this side of Cornell (whatever the hell that was). In any case, it was too steep for me at the time, as my bank account was already bleeding out from the previous blows my newly adopted completist mentality had levied upon it. So I offered a guy 35 bucks on eBay to burn me a copy of DaP 1 (this was definitely before I signed up on dead.net). He obliged and I had a copy of this precious commodity, 5/25/77, The Mosque, light sabers clashing on the front cover, the flagship to the Dave's Picks series.

It sounded perfect to me. I already had the May 1977 box set, the Winterland June 1977 box set, and by this time, copies of all the Dick's Picks '77 shows. The playing was perfect, the mix was perfect, the vocals were perfect, and the harmony vocals were perfect. The show sounded like a studio LP recorded in one take. I hadn't had time to fully absorb the other '77 stuff I mentioned, but I have in the years that have passed, and I really think they got tighter and more precise as May drew on. And Keith stopped playing (was allowed to abandon?) that awful synth-organ that dominates many April shows, up through Cornell (it drives me nuts on the Scarlet/ Fire that has become the standard). It seems to dissipate around St. Paul on 5/11, which is interesting, considering that's the opening show of the original May 1977 box set. I much prefer the acoustic piano and eventually the Yamaha electric that came along in the Autumn (the Fender Rhodes funk was long gone at that point).

The 5/25 Mosque show has to be heard end-to-end to fully appreciate. This post is long enough, so I'm about done, but the first set is one of the best of '77. The Mississippi Half-Step has a Rio Grandio section so perfectly sung and mixed by Betty; the Jack Straw is up there with McArthur Ct 1/22/78; the Brown-Eyed Women has one of the three best solos I've heard Garcia play on this tune (DP 29 and DaP 12 are also right up there). The Peggy-O is my favorite, and I imagine at least top 3 for most, in the context of post-hiatus Godchaux era versions. The second set is more of the same. Scarlet / Fire, Estimated / He's Gone, Other One / Wharf Rat / Other One / The Wheel. The show ends on a couple tunes I'm not crazy about - Around & Around / Johnny B. Goode. But screw it - it's like that 30 second blurb by McCartney that closes out Abbey Road - just skip it.

Nice post, K.F.

I know I am in the minority, but that Veneta DS never moved me the way it does others. I sort of get a little bummed when Jerry begins to lean in on Morning Dew near the end and Bobby plays the opening riffs of El Paso over the top that ultimately signals how things went down. I just wonder what could have been on this day if they fell seamlessly into Morning Dew instead of what I think is a bit of a forced transition into El Paso. I do like the PITB and China>Rider from this show very much, however, some of the really top versions of these tunes.

When I see a four or five paragraph post from you these days.. it provides a mental image of a four or five car fender bender and a major impact on the morning commute somewhere in the Northeast :D. I sort of have this image of you talking into your phone, looking down to make sure it all went down ok when just behind you carnage and chaos erupts while you speed away blissfully unaware that 95 just got shut down in both directions. Sort of a Mr. Magoo meets Hunter S Thompson visual.

Last five
10/9/98 Hampton
10/8/89 Hampton
Meddle
Atom Heart Mother
10/8/89 Hampton
10/9/89 Hampton

Had not listened to Hampton in years.. Both great shows, had to relisten plus I was doing some finish work on the trim in my house and these shows somehow helped me focus and not screw anything up.

Edit: Mr. Magoo meets Hunter S. Thompson - I meant that in the most positive, whimsical way.. I am sure you are careful.

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The vetoed morning dew...check out 8 21 72, as something similar happens. Jerry tries MD, but the band wants it to go elsewhere.

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The American Masters series on PBS was on last night featuring Janis Joplin. I watched nearly all of it, and it was great. Very well edited and lots of interviews, including Bobby, but I was surprised that there was absolutely zero mention of Pigpen, or Janis and Pig's "relationship".

I was always under the impression that Janis and Pig were pretty close, at least for a little while, but was that not the case? I know the story of the Looks Like Rain lyrics. A bunch of her boyfriends were discussed and interviewed, but it seems like Pig wasn't an important enough part of her life to make it in.

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Yeah, you hit the nail on the head on the morning commute posts, but I've given up on texting and driving, since the post I mentioned about a month ago, when I drove through the concrete barrier that formed the quarter mile semi-circle of my entrance to the turnpike. Like Casper the ghost, the left front of my car was so close going around the bend, I don't see how it was not conceivably "in" the wall for a moment, and then back out again when it reached just before my driver's side view mirror and I cut it to the right to get back in the lines. Never again. It felt miraculous. Red lights only.

Slow Dog Noodle - the very magazine article I mentioned in last night's post commented on their relationship as having happened, for a short time at least.

P.S. - Jimbo, it's funny, I feel the same way about Cornell as you described Veneta (i.e. just not moved by it like others are). I agree, MD would have been killer; or I would have been just as happy with Wharf Rat. One thing I do love about Sunshine Daydream is the multi-track mix. Like Rhein and HYH, you can hear Keith's piano prominently.

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Drove past Dick's Sporting Goods Park on my way home from work today, listening to the Dead. It's been hot and dry as hell in Denver. I did notice the masses are starting to gather, and I thought, for a brief second - NAH!!

I only live a few miles away, and I'll be blissfully unaware of the crowds, the heat, and the Phish music wafting across the air the next three nights. Too bad about the camping ban, and they also nixed whatever the Phish version of Shakedown Street is. Guess the deals will be going down incognito...

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What does the asterisk next to songs on disk 8 on the giants stadium box mean? 2.iko 3.all along. 4.morning dew 5. sugar mag. 6. Knocking. Thanks.

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Mabey songs from another date since it's at the end of the 7/10/89 show?

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According to the archive (and indicated by *), on 7/10/89 from Drums thru the Knocking on Heaven's Door encore was "w/ guitarist, drummer & keyboard player from Neville Bros."

"Anonymous" on setlists.net commented: "Great show! Intense lightning storm... The Neville Brothers with them playing Aiko-Aiko was so hot it smoked! Drums/Space kicked ass! The only bummer that I can remember was the sound problems after the storm - Morning Dew was a beauty, and Sugar Mags was beyond description...
What is it with the Neville Brothers bringing out the best in Mickey & Billy? They did that at the Kaiser center in '85 too... I've only been to 5 shows, but that was my favorite of all of them "

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Thanks

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Kinda like creedence in a way. a hint of.

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I won a Ticketmaster gift card and have not had an opportunity to use it - newborn, 6 yr old, wife, job, life in general. Anyhoo these guys are playing at Stage AE in Pittsburgh on a Saturday. Got the okay from the Mrs. and 90 dollars later !?!?!?!? I am going.

I am familiar with them but never listened to a show(when it is so easy to listen to the real thing) and of course have not seen them live. Anybody have any scoop good bad or in between?

Truth be told I am super excited to just get out and see some live music. Too old to partake in any extras save for a beer or two.

On another note WTF Ticketmaster 😒

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I am having a hard time pulling the trigger on this box set.
I was seeing shows from about 85 - 89. About 25 total all of which were in So Cal (Irvine, Long Beach, Ventura, LA Forum, Anaheim with Dylan).
By the way, No one in these forums is ever clamoring for So Cal shows to be released. Seems like So Cal was not prime territory in quality shows for the boys.
Anyway, even though I saw shows in the late 80’s and I do like Brent, I always tend to listen to the 70’s. I have had Dave’s Picks #30 on constant play in my pickup since I received it.
I like the longer jams in the 70s. Most of the songs played in the 80’s always seem too short to me. What appeals to me for this Giant’s Stadium box is the quality of the multi-track recordings. Also, I love the 3 and 4 part harmonies with Brent in the mix (and bonus, no Donna).
Although, Out of 4 shows from 89-91 time period and not 1 Standing on the Moon!
What to do, what to do?

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Getting 6 17 91 at minimum

So Cal
Release 7 18 82!!!!!!!!

Prolly not in vault

Irvine 85

Feb 89 inglewood

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VGUY72, I was at all 3 of the February shows at the Great Western Forum in 89
I forgot that I also saw 3 Shoreline shows in June of 89 which were my only GD shows near the SF Bay.
Then I moved to Humboldt County in September 1989 and got lost behind the Redwood Curtain for a decade and did not make it to anymore GD shows. Although, I did get to go see Jerry at Electric on the Eel in August of 91.

STOLTZFUS, I will for sure be picking up the 6/17/91 disc set if I don't go for the box! But, I will probably go for the box. I'm almost ready...

Odds are I will hit DSO in Pitt too. At least I try to catch them when I can. Hopefully I will see you there.

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Mrs. Trip and I have been together for thirty years. She's not exactly what you'd call a fan of the Dead. In fact, I'd say she's never really understood, and has barely tolerated, my love for them all this time.

Yet today, while driving along the sunny PCH from Santa Monica to Malibu, she asked "Why aren't you playing the Grateful Dead?"

I replied "Because you don't like them."

To which she responded "I liked the one you were playing a few days ago. It's good driving music."

She was referring to 5/25/77.

So, still in shock, I found the show and put it on. Less than a minute into "Mississippi Half-Step", she turned up the volume and said "This is music you play loud, love". Then she leaned back against the headrest with the sweetest smile.

The woman's still a surprise after all these years.

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Dark Star Orchestra in Minneapolis is $30 . . . They're always fun. Just go in without expectations, and at some point, you'll have a big smile on your face.

Love that story, Skull!

Had a WONDERFUL time with disc two of DaP 31 the other evening. Great pick, Dave!

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always a good time. Have seen them many times and they always bring the goods, Jeff Matheson covers Jerry very well. I like how they can mix up GD shows from era to era. First time I saw them they did a 71 show with Rob Barraco filling in for Pig, excellent, danced all night. Second time was a 91 show, so you don't ever know which era you are gonna get, but it doesn't matter, they do all justice. Go, have a blast and dance, dance, dance.

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I appreciate the feedback on DSO, thanks!

They have something called premium seating at Stage AE which I think just puts you above the GA and actually has seating and maybe a bar. So that was 75 dollars then Ticketmaster took theirs. I had a 100 dollar gift card so that’s the ONLY reason I did that!

Jim - sounds good!

Thanks again guys - always nothing but kindness here.

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Some primo GD85

The next night, too.

:)))

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SKULLTRIP, your post made my day as my situation is very similar. Every now and then the Mrs will surprise me, like once when we were making the trek over the Mountains to Denver and it being Fall I thought I’ll bring Wake of the flood, good seasonal mood music and she’d at least tolerate it. So at one point, perhaps the Keith song of all things she goes “this is kinda nice” and “why didn’t they let him sing more instead of that Bob Weird” as she calls him lol.
Recently, I had Operator, Candyman, Ripple and Attics in a late evening playlist I had going and she was in bed sorta pre-sleeping and said “what was that?, it was beautiful, you should play more of that” to which I really laughed and said it was the Dead, which of course I play all the time. She does like late era JGB, but really can’t stand Playing in the Band and Tennessee Jed or most of “that Bob Weird”!

SIXTUS: congrats on the new digs....hopefully you can just move in and enjoy. We moved in our new place six months ago and I’m still drowning in projects, which would be fine if we were twenty years younger...

BCBOOT: interesting SoCal comments. At first I was thinking the same about no love/shows from the region, which is odd because it was a regular stop for the boys. But then I got to thinking (I knew I smelled something burning!) and though it does not seem to be on the radar compared to NY or Boston etc, there is Vault 2 from Shrine 68, and Dave’s 29, 10, and 5. Plus there’s those fine runs Vguy et el mentioned and I recall my Cousin and Burnout always going on about some trippy early 87 shows (I think, I’d have to ask?). Though I never went, I was drawn to Laguna Seca because I’d head some great shows from there on tapes back in the day. Same with Ventura, and growing up in the cold, cloudy northeast, those places sounded/seemed so tropical paradise like in my middle of dreary winter “California Dreaming” fantasies. Finally made it to Ventura on 96 Futher fest and I did really dig the place. Bet it was a trip to see the Dead there, like that killer (first set at least) 7/13/85 show. Interestingly though, Dick only released that one, #35? I believe from San Diego?

TY627: every card carrying Deadhead should see DSO at least once, sounds like your going in style so hopefully you’ll have a great time. Like DHbrewer said, just go with an open mind etc....Unfortunately I’ve only seen them once myself way back when “Junior Jerry,” was still with them. Man it still frosts my ass the way Billy dissed him for the 50th shows. I mean really, no offense to Trey: they didn’t rehearse much etc, but imho I think John would of done a great job! Hell, I still think they should have incorporated John, Warren, Jimmy, Steve etc. perhaps Warren doing Old school Dead, Pig, Brent etc, you know, mixing it up with different guys playing differeysegments of the shows, or perhaps different guys on different nights....I think they weren’t sure they were going to have the draw/response they did, since they seemed so genuinely surprised, and thought adding Trey and Hornsby would fill Seats?

DSO: speaking of, so that one show I was fortunate to be at was at an out of the way place called State Bridge along the Colorado River off the beaten path where the freaks could freak freely etc, and had great camping, just a funky old cool place to see a show. Unfortunately it “burned” down ahem....anywho, the main reason we were there was our band both did an opening mostly acoustic set on the outside main stage and then played a late night after show Electric set upstairs in the old building. One of my most fondest gig/memories. The afternoon set wasn’t to crowded but they had pro cameras going so there used to be awesome footage on the inter webs, but alas I can’t find it anymore. It was also memorable because I had just gotten my awesome Michael Kelly Club Deluxe 5 string acoustic bass guitar. But the real fun was the after party that probably started after midnight?The place was packed and as you can imagine the crowd was fully primed after the great DSO show, truly a bands dream. I think we played like a 2 hour first set because we didn’t want to stop, but eventually everyone had to pee so bad we just had to take a break. Unfortunately that was the kiss of death, because at that point most of the crowd had had enough of a truly great long day and went off to camp etc. We did keep playing and a few hearty souls kept boogeying, but the magic was gone and Torte Elvis had definetly left the building!
Speaking of the old band here’s a clip if anyone is interested. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4a4WlYbcek Unfortunately this is the only thing left on line of my tenure in the band. It’s only an acoustic lineup, it’s kinda early in the afternoon, too early for some musicians, and not really a good representation of what that band could do, but it’s at least shot well since it was a benefit for local Radio Free Minturn, with the main act being Nina Story, Who I guess had a “song” at the time?

Yeeshk, just realized how much I’ve been rambling, sorry! I guess for some of us geezers thinking back about the good ole days seems like all we have left? Perhaps it was some light reading for a lazy Sunday afternoon? 😉
Well, being Labor Day weekend, ah, that means I get to “labor” at home for free, I should probably guit stalling and get to it.
Ok, enough, Relax, enjoy, and peace be with you my brothers and sisters.
Speaking of, LMG, hope your ok, we haven’t heard from you in a bit?

Oh, as far as the box, if your that close just do it! “Don’t think about it, just lean over and kiss your radio, no one will think poorly of ya” Name that quote!
Yeah, just do it, if you don’t like it you can sell it later ir turn someone on! Win-win!

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Mention of the Forum in '89 made it obligatory to repost this classic Walton rant about Dylan, and inevitably, the Dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OBNnGQ4jmM

The closing song....the Lucky ol' Su-, Sun.

Show me the river. Take me across.

Got a foul here on Benjamin, that's two on him..

Wash all my troubles away.

At the Forum! In 89! I was there!

Editor's note: Can't agree with him more about Lucky Old Sun, best closer and vocal performance on record in years for Dylan.

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San Bernadino?

2 26 77?

Ring any bells?

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All good, not just first set.

1987
Just returned from 7 19 87
Listened to side a of set two
Glowy

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