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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • Charlie3
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    Communism Does Not Lead To Freedom...

    Hey Direwulf, interesting post. Can you identify any communist country that hasn't devolved into totalitarianism? I can't think of any, which is why is appears to me that communism and socialism are doomed to devolve into totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is a feature of these systems, not a bug. Not trying to stir things up, but you obviously want to discuss this futher, so why not? I feel like we can be civil and still disagree.

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    Do you remember So Far that came out in 87 on VHS? I just watched this again on Amazon prime recently. So great, 50 minutes of sound check and concert footage from 85 and they sound great. I remember watching this at my buddies house in 87 and always wondered what happened to this one. Jerry looks so different in this footage then he looked like in 87. If you have never seen it or haven't seen it in over 30 years like me, check it out.
    How is this box selling? I bought on in the first day.

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    Woodstock and Vietnam conflict, I think most people's concern with the labeling of all poorly governed countries as "communist" is because the fact is they arent actually communist but financially corrupt totalitarian oligarchic regimes, with sprinklings of other suppressive systems of governance. Right wingers like to simplify arguments and therefore label all countries "communist" and then if you dont like America you're "communist". Its a catch all term to lump anything deemed "unpatriotic" by right leaning citizens, they then use it to negatively identify and label anyone they value to be a "lesser American and a communist. " Unfortunately, these tactics never disappeared and are out in full force today with revised tactics. Also many citizens do not support wars the US participated in after WW2 because they became political wars instead under the disguise of American values. The military prior to the end of WW2 was like a sheathed sword, always kept ready for conflict. After WW2, the military became a cheap switchblade to pull out and hold against other US citizens whose "perceived" lack of support became a litmus test for patriotism and citizenship...disgusting. That's why there is so much fervent military worship and why they choose to tie it so intrinsically with the NFL, its indoctrination and repurposing of the military war machine for political purposes. It's been happening since the 50s and it's a natural step on the way to true fascism. And to me that is a much more realistic and dangerous word than communist.

    The military is a vital and important part of our history but it is not anywhere in the definition of the word patriot, American, or citizen, and it is not what defines this country. It is what keeps it safe so it's citizens can define themselves, whether others like it or not, that's the whole point...freedom to live, choose your own path, and make your own choices...supposedly.

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    Yes, that is quite grim. It must be what all Dead music sounds like to those that don't like them. To me, the best Lovelight's clock in at around the 15 minute mark, which includes the ones from whenever they first played it, to about March 1969-and then those great few versions played during Europe 72.

    Interesting listening to Woodstock again. Its surprising, in a way, that given that it was apparently something of a mass acid test, very little of the music actually sound psychedelic. The bands I have most enjoyed listening to over the last few days, that I had forgotten about a bit, are Jefferson Airplane, Sly and the Family Stone and (look away now) Creedence Clearwater Revival.

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    Jim's comment about the fading new car smell of 31 got me wondering what 32 might be, but then I wondered, when are we getting a look at this box? I for one am really curious about the size and layout, particularly since I am essentially out of shelf space for boxes and cd's. Given that the box is focused on Giant Stadium, I have a minor worry that someone might think a truly giant box would be just the thing. I'm also a little concerned, because when I commented to my wife that I was running out of shelf space for box sets and cd's again, she had sort of a negative vibe when she suggested that it would not be cool if a new box set were to remain on the coffee table in the living room indefinitely. It seems like she may have made this same point previously when I was trying to figure out how to fit the PNW box on the remaining shelf space;)

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    The show Sunny in Philadelphia did an entire episode based on the premise of the gang trying to top Wade Boggs' record for drinking beers on a cross country flight. Good show, clever low-brow humor and I kind of dig that kind of comedy. Not for everyone I suspect, but what is?

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    all this airline talk....I can't help but think about the George Carlin bit where he mentions being stuck on a plane next to a guy in a Grateful Dead t-shirt who's "working on his 9th little bottle of Kahlua!" Ha! I'm afraid I missed out on those good old days. I had a fear of flying most my life and didn't start flying till after 9/11. Sounds like I missed a lot of fun. On the other hand, I have some good memories of cross country Amtrak rides with a backpack of my own provisions, including my walkman and Europe 72 bootleg cassettes. Hopefully, the trains are still a bit lenient about such things.

    I finally gave the Palladium 4/30/77 (Download Series) a close listen today. Amazing show. It's really hopeless picking favorites from the Spring 77 tour!

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    Alvarhonso..

    I listened to the same portion of 30 today doing some woodwork in the heat this afternoon. I had almost the exact same thoughts. I had a long drive this morning that got me through discs one and two, and finished the rest fine-tuning some cherry trim that hopefully will be in my kitchen by weeks end. What a great release.

    Not so weird I guess.. it's the best part of that release and it doesn't really let up until the end of the bonus disc. Still, a bit serendipitous. I keep listening to Dave's 5, 13 and 30 to see which one I like best. Gives me something to do. 29 was stupendous, but I really do like the unpredictability and surprises of the earlier years. White Rabbit. :D

    For our fellow sparing partners out there, let it go.

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    Exercise your 1st amendment right to protest a questionable war.....patriot. Make propaganda films and speeches in the enemy territory......TRAITOR. You're welcome to believe what you want jr. but she said and did the above without question.
    Oh yeah it's hip to believe the lies. Here's some more truth for you. Fonda wasn't against the war , she was a communist in favour of the communists winning. Proof? 1977 after the communists did to their people that we said they would Joan Baez a true antiwar pacifist decried what they were doing to their people. Fonda, Dellinger et al called her a CIA dupe.
    As I said in this country you have a right to believe what you want. So Uncle Ho was an agrarian reformer, Mao had all the answers in that little red book. Even though he was responsible for over 60,000,000 deaths of his own people. And of course the height of the new citizen Pol Pot. How many communist countries have you been to

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    Wade Boggs would drink Hunter S. Thompson under the food tray on a normal cross country flight.

    https://youtu.be/75Gx8OmO9Rk

    He later admitted his record was 107, in the above video he's a bit more cagey about it.

    Dave's 30 is pretty damn outstanding on a third listen. The Feelin' Groovy> Soulful Strut portion of Dark Star is just fantastic, and the whole quiet jam that precedes is just beautiful. I started out listening to the Dancing, and went back around to the beginning on the USB.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Less than 30 days to go until we have this box in our hands. When will Dave release some more seaside chats?

Starting to get excited.

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Very tough one for me. Some of my favorite picks (1/22/78, 11/17/73, 11/17/72) came in years where one of the picks came from my least-favorite period (mid-'69 through Keith's first show). [ducks and covers] If I eliminate calendar years with those Picks, I would have to say that 2015 was the best for me, in terms of overall satisfaction with every disc. That was the "Wavy Pastel" cover era, with Skater, Statue of Liberty, Riverboat, and Scooby House (2/24/74, 3/26/72 (my second birthday), 4/22/78, and 3/28/73).

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I enjoyed the hell out of MUATM this year, both the people and the movie, all except just that one bit 'o undigested food between Weir's two-foot-tall teeth. Where was George Costanza's spinach-covered front tooth during a job interview image when I needed him?

Ah, rhetorical questions...

Really posting here to wonder if Dave, in releasing a '91 box, had/has a "backup plan" in case '91 didn't sell like hot cakes. Sounds like it is selling briskly and it's a limited edition box, so the bet is always pretty solid that it'll sell out eventually. I'm happy for everyone who is enthusiastically awaiting this box. I'm no longer a gotta-have-it-all deadhead.

But would there be, in his back pocket, perhaps, a plan to release say a one-disc set of some pre-retirement show -- 1968 to 1974 -- for the Xmas retail orgy to reach those of us who enjoyed a 48-track 1991 movie but declined a $200 box of it? Like a tape for which they're sure the entire show will never be released?

A man can dream... until the Allman Brothers at the Fillmore West 1971 shows up today, the Beatles Abbey Road 50th reissue comes later this month, and news of Dylan's next Bootleg Series release drops.

Then again, I DO have a couple hundred GD shows to turn to, including an incoming 7-disc set of 15 May 1970, which will be a banquet. Thanks to ... you know who you are. Or were. Or can be. Or, back to the coffee!

Felt like doing a cannonball in the forum pool this morning. Have fun, gang!

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You posted you dove into Englishtown for the first time in 3 years. And I thought it read I "drove". I was like holy shit someone lives near Englishtown! Then I reread :-) For those not in the know (most I'm sure). Englishtown is a pimple of a town, on a back street to nowhere. Kinda like where Jim lives without the river & the mountains. But they do have a racetrack (drag strip). Commercials as a kid were "RACEWAY PARK,,,, NITRO BURNING FUNNY CARS,,,,, BIG TOM TASMANIA". A lot like the piece from Billy was a Mountain. They also run a swap/auction type thing there. Went to high school around the corner from the place.

Update - FINALLY got a notice on 45 collection. It's been sent to UPS Mail Innovations,,, should see in about 2 months :-) Oh, and my copy of Allmans Fillmore 71 should be here today. I can download the mp3 file from amazon now.

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For 9-3-77 Englishtown, and deservedly so.

Submitted for your consideration --- 9/3/80 ---- aka Download Series #7.
I gave this a spin the other day for the first time. Its a great show. First set especially, is extra tight and really rockin. Every song is solid. All time great Althea IMHO. Second set isn't quite the lysergic bliss of epic 70s shows but still quite good. I think this would be a good show to play for a n00b, or a casual fan, to get them on the bus.

That is all.

Peace

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I expect there to be a Black Friday Record Store Day release.
Whether it will be something from a year you are looking for, and whether it comes in a format other than vinyl, remains to be seen.

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I'd agree with Deadheadbrewer on 2015, they really nailed it on 50th anniversary, 2/24/74, 3/23/72, 4/22/78, and 3/28/73 were all pretty damn good. That's the closest I've come to really loving all 4 Picks in a year. I really like 4/22/78, but I don't quite love it. It's the only one of those I will usually listen to parts of it (Jack Straw, Candyman, Peggy-O, Deal, Wharf Rat) and then move along to something else. Did a full listen to 3/28/73 6 months ago on a long car trip, and that show smokes until disc 3, then it just becomes insanely over the top. A very noisy Dark Star that's out there, but the Eyes and Playing are an incredible ending.
2014 with 5/14/74, 12/10-11/69, 11/17/72, and 11/4/77 is probably my second favorite year.

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This is making my head twitch too. Too difficult.

2014 and 2015 are both very strong:

2014:

Montana 1974
Thelma 1969
Colgate 1977
Wichita 1972

Strong bonus material on the last 3. They're all top-shelf within their respective years in my mind. Montana is a solid representation of the WoS, and has a Dark Star that gives Jim nightmares (not to mention a great WRS and a "not overbaked Playing jam; Thelma has T.C. and fantastic set list variety + that trippy UJB and sick bonus disc that goes Dark Star => St. Stephen => The Eleven => The Other One => Cosmic Charlie.

Colgate sizzles with energy on rockers like Bertha, Samson & Delilah, Cold Rain & Snow, and contains premier versions of Dupree, Brown-Eyed Women, Let It Grow, Stella Blue, Cassidy, and of course - The Jones Gang; there's also second set Playing medley with Eyes / Estimated, Iko Iko, a fierce four minute Othe One, and the Stella with the spacey intro.

Wichita 1972 is one of the finest recorded rwo-tracks from that year, and while there's no Dark Star, the Bird Song is up there with Veneta and the '73 version from the Pacific Northwest box set; also a great Brokedown Palace, Truckin' => The Othe One, Box Of Rain, a 7 minute China Cat (long for '72), Uncle John's Band (I love these in '71 / '72) and bonus material - Wharf Rat & the half hour Playing in the Band, which is also long for '72 (but still cooks like the other versions from that year).

2015:

Winterland 1974
Academy of Music 1972
Nashville 1978
Springfield 1973

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....I'm not falling for it.
Praising the Lincoln, NE 2.26.73 Dick's currently.
And I'm gonna sit right here until I die....
and no. It's not on my new Onkyo. Delayed. Arriving Monday. Bose soundbar will have to suffice.

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Of course! "Black Friday"!

Kinda lines up with the next DaP, eh?

Was that single CD 11-18-72 Houston release a Black Friday thing? Can't recall.

Meanwhile, I'll just keep banging the drum for a fall '72 box, um, next year (arrrggghhh!).

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I can tell you where I was 35 years ago when I got a copy of a tape and the first time they played Scarlet Begonias, but for the life of me I can't associate the Daves or Dicks Picks number associated with the show, or what year they released it?? Weird.... On a side note I am, pure empty nester for the next 3 weeks, my daughter is spending the semester abroad in London and my wife and her are traveling around England for a few weeks before school starts. I am starting with Spring1990 The Other One box, (I never even burned the CD's stupid me, doing that now), because besides 3/29/90, I have only listened once.... Bobt

You probably memorize the dates of shows because that is the only relevant information.
The order of release is irrelevant.
I imagine that when you got your first cassette you labeled it with the show date and not “Bobt’s first cassette”.

Have fun with your extended listening party.

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Yes, 11-18-72 was 2014 Black Friday.

It would be awesome if DaP32 and BF RSD release we’re related.

Especially if they were Fall 72.

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Thank you for putting that into perspective! I needed that... And of course my listening party had to start with 3/29/90!!! Have a good weekend.. bob t

I wouldn't know the answer to that one, either. I have also never really got the enthusiasm for "burning" on here. Maybe because I only listen at home-there doesn't seem much point. No one else handles them except me, so its unlikely the cds are going to get damaged. If I was still driving I might do it, so I could listen in the car-but as it is I don't really bother.

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Thought that JRF "dRove" into Englishtown as well!

Had to look up the DaP numbers and calendar years; only remember the show dates and my gut feel for each.

Only rip the CDs if I'm putting them on the portable music player for the gym or the bike trail. Play the CDs in the car stereo without fear.

Had a fantastic bike ride yesterday, on a glorious early-fall afternoon in Minnesota. (for better or worse, fall has come very early this year . . . ) Pulled out my sax for the first time in 25 years, in order to start playing again, and found some interesting items in the case. Used those just before the ride, and based on my meditative state about ten minutes into the ride, determined that 25-year old items might have a little something left in them!

Grooved to the beautiful Shining Star from the '91 Eel release on the drive to the trailhead, then blissed out to disc two of DaP 31 for the ride.

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If you want to play along on best Dave's by year, this is what they are:
2012: 1 5/25/77, 2 7/31/74 (bonus 7/29/74), 3 10/22/71, 4 9/24/76
2013: 5 11/17/73, 6 12/20/69, 2/2/70 (bonus 12/21/69), 7 4/24/78, 8 11/30/80
2014: 9 5/14/74, 10 12/12/69 (bonus 12/11/69), 11 11/17/72, 12 11/4/77
2015: 13 2/24/74, 14 3/26/72 (bonus tracks from 3/21 and 3/23), 15 4/22/78, 16 3/28/73
2016: 17 7/19/74, 18 7/17/76 (bonus 7/16/76), 19 1/23/70, 20 12/9/81
2017: 21 4/2/73, 22 12/7/71(bonus 12/6/71), 23 1/22/78, 24 8/25/72
2018: 25 11/6/77, 26 11/17/71 (bonus 12/14/71), 27 9/2/83, 28 6/17/76
2019: 29 2/26/77, 30 1/2/70 (bonus 1/3/70), 31 12/3/79
I knew most of them off the top of my head, but did have to cheat. No way I can do that for the DiP Series without a LOT of cheating.

I used to burn them all, or at least highlight discs, but now it's mainly mp3 on a USB. But I don't like playing the originals on anything other than the living room stereo once they're ripped.

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Thanks for listing them like that, Alvarhanso. Your powers of recall are admirable indeed! Looking at them, 2015 and 2017 look to be very strong years.

The list is also handy for looking at which years have been focussed on...and which ones have been overlooked. Amazing that there hasn't been a single one from what I think of as the Dead's first golden age, late 1967 to April 1969. Primal Dead. There are a few 1969 shows, but they are from the second half of the year, which, on the whole were less incendiary than shows from the first half. Big difference, with 1969, between the first half and the second half. The second half seemed to signal a cooling down to me, as Working Mans and more traditional songs started to make their tentative appearance.

I have no particular reason to think I won't be around for a year or two yet, but I think its still fair to say that my Daves Picks cds will still be here and playable long after I have left Planet Earth. Pity I can't burn a copy of myself, really!

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You've tried a professional buffing machine? Those have worked in the past for me, albeit not all of the time. If you need a copy of that tune, hit one of us up via PM and we can help you. I've got FLAC's and 320 kbps MP3's.

P.S. Parking meters! :-)

The purest in me would list the years in reverse simply because on a whole these were likely the last listened to, so clearly the best..

I think each year has it's high point(s) and shows that get less love.

(sidebar - If they ever do a re-do on Rudolf the Red Eyed Reindeer.. the land of the misfit toys would be renamed the land of the misfit CD's where they would get the love and rabid listening they deserve)

This mix by year is by design. The 'lesser' shows so far are certainly releasable shows and float to the top of others favorite list. It's all so subjective.. We should expect these shows are going to be released, they almost have to.. So we get what should be viewed as a representative mix of the best unreleased shows. The series seems to have kept this in mind no matter what the era or other critics might say.

So my absolute favorite shows have some roommates. That's the way I look at it. I am very happy with the series and honestly, so far, 2019 is a heavy hitter with one release left to go. Gee.. I wonder what it's gonna be?

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Starts at Wharf Rat and doesn't stop!!!! I forgot how good the ending of Mississippi Half Step is!! Listening to Dicks Picks that I haven't listened to in a while!! Bob t

I had one Dick's disk that I could not get to play using the various home remedies. I found a place with a professional disk resurfacing machine and for $5, they resurfaced that bad boy. It came out as shiny as the day it was born and plays perfectly. Well worth the $5. The place I found (via google) was a game console repair store (go figure).

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Hard to pick a top year of releases, but I would definitely agree with 2015 as a contender just for DaP 13 - 2/24/74 and DaP 16 - 3/28/73 both in my top 5 out of the picks so far. DaP 14 and 15 were pleasing to me as well.

Looking forward to the release of this box, but been on a little dead detour the last few days. Listening to some Blondie - Parallel Lines, Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True, Lou Reed - Transformer, Allman Brothers - Idlewild South, Stan Getz - Jazz Samba Encore. Lacked the time to really dive into a full dead show lately due to an overload of work. Being self-employed, the only thing worse than too much work is not enough work.

Daverock, your comment about burning a copy of yourself made me think of a book series that I recently read. If you are a sci-fi fan consider checking out the Bobiverse series - book 1 - We Are Legion, We Are Bob, book 2 - For We Are Many, and book 3 - All These Worlds, by Dennis Taylor. The premise relies on your concept of burning a copy of yourself in a manner of speaking, and is some pretty cool recent sci-fi, kind of has a similar feel to The Martian in terms of essentially being what I have heard described as "competence porn". Dennis Taylor also wrote another recent book, The Singularity Trap, which also touches on the idea of a copy of an individual and whether the copy and the individual are the same or different. The whole burn a copy of yourself could really lead to hours of interesting philosophical discussion regarding the implications. But I digress...again...

Edit: Also, check out the short story Fat Farm by Orson Scott Card. Originally published in Omni Magazine in the '80s. Deals explicitly with the copy of self concept, and ought to cure anyone who reads it of the desire to create a copy of themselves.

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Hello David?

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The last Dead I listened to was the Road Trips cd highlights of 6/16/74. The benefits of trimming shows like this are that you are right in the heart of things almost immediately. The opening China/Rider on disc one is amazing-6/26/74 will always be the gold standard for this pairing-but this version is also top drawer. And looking in the Dead Taping compendium, they don't even mention it in their review. Such is the quality of the rest of the show.

Its also noticeable, looking in the compendium how much has been left out of the release. And also...unpopular observation coming up....that the release may actually be better without all those other songs. Its certainly fat free as it stands.

Serendipity...the next cd I played was a live cd from the Tangerine Dream box-which turned out to be also 6/16/74 in London. Then later in the day one by King Crimson, also live from June 1974. 1974 will never be remembered as one of rocks greatest years...but all these three bands were at a peak, and bravely going where no man had been before.

Charlie...thanks for the heads up about the books and authors. I used to read science fiction almost exclusively between about 1975 and 1985. So many great books and writers - J.G.Ballard, Michael Moorcock, Roger Zelazny-the absolute pinnacle though, for me, was Philip K. Dick. His best books, maybe The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, Ubik, The Martian Time Slip are truly unique. They weren't books about the future, to me they were like hallucinogenic revisions of the world I was living in. I couldn't get enough. I used to get them locally, but also from a great shop in London called "Dark They Were and Golden Eyed." It all seemed very much of a piece with the music I was listening to at the time. And for the most part, still do.

Anyway...bit of a ramble there...I will look out for Dennis Taylor and Orson Scott Card.

Nought out of ten for any "Dickhead" comments!

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I forget who was just talking about the 2nd set of this show but thanks for the reminder. Especially Mississippi HS. Never fully appreciated how good they played the ending that night.

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Scrolling back through the comments, I was pleased to see some discussion about DP6 - 10/14/83. I was among those who dismissed this one upon first listen as the sound, at least for Alabama, is pretty rough, and overall, I simply wasn't used to the sound of tape-recorded 80s shows at that point in my GD listening life. However, as I have grown more and more fond of the 80s, particularly 85 and before, I have grown to LOVE this show! By the time the boys get to TLEO, the whole thing settles in and a very fine show proceeds from there. That 2nd set is a BURNER!

That being said, I have been curious as to why Dick picked this show instead of the night after, 10/15 - during "The Return of St. Stephen"... It's a fantastic one. If you haven't, check it out - here is a link to a fine AUD:

https://archive.org/details/gd83-10-15.beyer-ficca-brennan.ficca.20024…

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Likely BobT. He has been venturing through some of the older releases.

..lots of love for Road Trips 2.3 Wall of Sound. I've been hitting some of the neglected Road Trips the last few days myself. I gave 6/16 a good listen about a month ago. Agree on the China>Rider and the Eyes>Big River is excellent also. ..but really, are there any bad 73/74 Eyes of the World? Still wish they release 6/16 and 6/18 in their entirety.

If I was more organized or had a better memory I would hit the last five more often. By the time a day or two goes by, things fall into the already happened category when I am trying to focus on the happening right now category. Such is life I guess..

Be good all.. great enthusiasm for all things good music and culture lately, and what's not to like about that.

I had to beat a dead horse, but I did something that racked my back over the weekend and took a quick soak early this am.. I wanted something quick on the device in the woodshop (closest to the tub) and my fingers fell on another Road Trips I hold in high regard, Road Trips Vol. 4 No. 1 Big Rock Pow Wow, 5/23&24/69. Man, that Doin' That Rag > He Was A Friend of Mine get's me every time. Unique and underplayed songs, bordering on rarities.

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Dicks Picks #7 Alexandra Palace 9/9-11/74 is one of the more underrated in my opinion. There's some nice hefty jams in that release. I tend to prefer full shows, but this is a pretty decent highlight-centric release.

Always loved that Hartford '83 Dick's Picks. That Scarlet>Fire Estimated>Eyes is a solid hour of Jerry just rippin' it up. Also a nice Spanish Jam in there.

Love number seven.. I think it's high time I revisit number six. I did always like the energy of that show.

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It’s 11.45 pm in England on a Monday night and I’m enjoying two of my most guilty pleasures- a LARGE gin and tonic and rocking the cradle egypt 78 especially the Ollin>fire .
It’s two bob I know but I love it .

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Gonna save the magical dicks picks vol 7 at the wonderful venue that is the ally pally till tomorrow . Xxx

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To Space Brothers point about the jams on DP 7, Not Fade Away is something special. If I recall correctly, this was a period when they were not playing it much and certainly not for 20 minutes at a time, which I think this is close to. Not to be missed.

I forget which Dave's Picks this is, but the Felt show from December 6th 1971 is really melting my face at the moment. It's the bonus disc show I'm speaking of. I just kind of threw it all together in one folder and put the songs in order that they played them. There's a lot of energy in this show. The audio isn't quite up to the November 15 and 17th shows that have been released, but once you get used to it, they're having a pretty good night. China Rider and Tennessee Jed are pretty hot. The Other One is incredible... if you don't think so, I probably just have it turned up too loud. Even Casey Jones is kicking my ass. Bill the drummer is throwing in these offbeat snare shots, and some drum rolls and wicked fills...... get that man a large gin and tonic.

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11 - 11/17/72
5 - 11/17/73
26 - 11/17/71
32 - 11/??/?? (11/??/72?)
8 - 11/30/80 (not 12/20/69 & 2/2/70)

Thanks Jiminmd for pointing out my error. I guess I got excited about the number pattern forming.

Except that #8 is 11/30/1980.

What does that do to your algorithm, 8/24/85? :D

#6 was Thelma 69 and Fox Theatre 70. I have to revisit that one too.. been too long.

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One of my favorite musical anniversaries thanks to the 30 Trips box.

9/10/91 MSG

This show is a perfect primer as a warm-up for the Giants Stadium box. '91 was actually a great Grateful Dead year.

Road Trips V2N1 '90 MSG and Dick's Picks Vol 9 from 9/16/90 showed how great the Bruce/Vince era could get. Glad to see this line-up get some attention. Maybe not everybodies bag, but I sure love it.

Also still seeking the Road Trips Spectrum '79 download shows. Missed out on that.

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Perhaps Bolo's clues are steering us towards a Southern show from late in a given year. All those shows he/she mentions were performed in the South (okay, so L.A. isn't the "South," but it is quite southerly . . . give me some leeway to run with this . . . ). This leads me to believe that DaP 32 will be . . .
12/18/73--Tampa, with bonus tracks that didn't make it onto DP 1
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December 1978: I don't know the shows from this Southern swing, but they likely came home with the rest of the Bettys.
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11/19/72--Houston (but these tapes are probably REALLY lost for good . . . )
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11/29/80--Gaisdh;gk; jk;jsddddddddd [sounds of scuffling heard briefly, then silence . . . ]

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Becoming an alcoholic late in life. Give me Boodles Gin and Fever Tree Indian Tonic water. Very Nice. Keep bottles of it at work. (ticking away the moments that make up a dull day)

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My 45 showed up today (#1815),,, what I haven't got (again) is a link to the digital download. Anyone got a link?

I recall a great 12 min version of He Was A Friend of Mine on a bonus disc from way back when - it might have been a New Year's compilation disc or a Fillmore West bonus - but it's a great version. I always loved that one especially when they stretched it out a bit. Great, early harmonies. Despite the somewhat morbid topic of the tune.

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