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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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August 10, 2019 - 9:27pm

#1531

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Unfortunately.....

....there have been no official shows released that I attended. And the count is 50+. Oh well. One day. Attended every Vegas show. One day.
Got a couple of Phish show's though.
August 10, 2019 - 7:56pm

#1532

bob t

Joined:
November 21, 2007

Today Sirius noon show was 6/16/85.... Greek Theatre

Had this show since summer of 86. Got in the car when Samson was starting... Listening to right now, Love the Scarlet>Fire!!!!
August 10, 2019 - 6:46pm

#1533

Mr. Ones

Joined:
July 25, 2017

Shows Seen, Shows Liked

I only saw the Dead between 1980-1988. I would love it if they released one of those shows one day, but I don't lie awake at night thinking about it.
I started listening to the Dead in 1974, and as a result (I think), I only really liked live stuff from '68-'73. I started out only buying Dick's Picks from this era. Road Trips also. And boxed sets too.
However, when 30 trips came out, I only really wanted the first 10 shows from the box. I started ebaying them right on the day they were released. After acquiring the first 10 shows, I then picked up the '76 & '77 shows. Then I found the box (minus cds) for just about $100.00. Then I just kept looking at set lists, and wanting to try another and another. The 1984 show was the biggest surprise to me, a fantastic show. Eventually there were 5 shows I would NEVER buy. Funny thing but I now have all 30 shows!!
I payed WAY more a la carte than I would have the box, but don't think I could have kept both the box and the bill a secret. Also, by getting shows a little at a time, I had much more time to enjoy each one.
I learned that there were shows from ALL eras that I could enjoy, even though '66-'74 still get the most replays. I am only missing 4 boxes ('78, both '90's sets, and the 5 show '77 box). The only one I regret missing was the 5 show '77 box. I am only going to pick up the stand alone release from this new set, but that's enough to satisfy me.
It's ok to pass on certain releases (obviously), but we don't have to call people who DO buy them stupid (or something worse).
I truly enjoy having the option to listen to any version of the band, and I think it's cool that I have at least one show from every year.
I very much enjoy these (almost philosophical) discussions on eras, what we like, and why we like it. Keep it coming!!
August 10, 2019 - 5:22pm

#1534

mcgrupp216

Joined:
November 1, 2017

Chapell Hill ‘93

Love those shows, Alvarhanso. Love a lot of those Sp93 shows, for that matter. That Rosemont run is honestly among my favorite shows in the entire catalogue. ‘93 easily the most underrated year. Actually listening to 3/17 right now, really good, too!
August 10, 2019 - 2:22pm

#1535

CaseyJanes

Joined:
November 6, 2017

A warning for friends...take heed!

Beware of the Wolf
Appearing quite Dire
He collects his dues
While we sing
Round the fire
Wearing sheep’s clothing
Got two eyes don’t see
I was bitten this week
Not one time but three

You internet art peddler
Please don’t murder me
And don’t steal from me either
I trusted you see
But you dealt that deal anyways
Shame on you
Now shame on me
August 10, 2019 - 11:14am

#1536

alvarhanso

Joined:
January 16, 2014

Era preferences

I'm one of the younger post-Jerry busriders, so don't really have too much homer investment, as I didn't attend any shows, though it could be homerism that makes me want a Greensboro box set. They played the Coliseum 7 times I think from 1980-91, and some good shows. Like this Giants box set, Greensboro had a great Dark Star with Bruce in the mix for April Fool's Day no less. I also wouldn't mind at all if 3/24/93 Dean Smith Center in Chapel Hill were to be released as a Dave's with filler from the next night. Or even if 4/12/78 at Cameron Indoor at Duke were part of the returned Bettys. I've seen the black and white video of that one quite a bit, and that's a high energy show. But I'm more about great sounding shows that have really top notch jamming. I agree the batting average is very good, certainly higher than Ty Cobb's .367, and the only deviants from the norm are somebody else's holy grail, so it balances out. There are a LOT of Dick's Picks and Download Series shows I don't listen to, so an occasional bump isn't bad at all. Just one less thing in an ever expanding rotation of great music. In the Download Series I even found that there are 1972 shows I don't like. That Seattle one from 7/21 just isn't my cup of meat.

I'm going to get this box, and I imagine I'll enjoy it quite thoroughly. Though how many times I'll listen to it is hard to say. I'm not even diving into the PNW Box as much as I thought I would. Everybody and his brother had 5/19/74 as a top, top show, and it has its moments, but it doesn't blow me away as much as 5/17 or 6/22/73. But I also don't really have the time to re-check that analysis. They've released so much excellent stuff that I've ignored most of Europe '72 Complete in the last 5 years or so. I wish we all had Dick Latvala's schedule for listening to Dead at exceedingly high volumes, but alas.
August 10, 2019 - 10:56am

#1537

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Last few listens

Living room:
12-3-79 (3 times since receiving)
12-9-81
8-7-82
7-31-82 set2 (playing now)

Boise 83 up next.
Thought that I’d listen to some of the most maligned releases.
I listen to all eras and can accept if 1 out of 4 DaP’s is from a cassette master.

It’s possible for me to listen to these shows in the living room this week because I balanced it with the several hours I spent listening in the car this week.
2-13-70
2-14-70
5-2-70

Hmmmmm.....how about a Plangentized “Fillmore February 1970 - East Meets West” Box? Opens up like a briefcase with Fillmore West on the the left and Fillmore East on the right.
I’ll buy it.

I listen to 1965-95 and buy all the complete, or nearly complete, show releases. I didn’t subscribe to RT at first because I didn’t want partial shows or compilations, but did buy the complete shows and eventually everything except 79 compilation and Cal Expo. I missed out on a few bonus discs for not subscribing.
Missed out on FW 69, I think it sold out before I saw the email. Didn’t have internet in my apartment at that time. I did get copies and now have 27 and 28 on vinyl (which have been Plangentized).
Missed out on the 72 steamer trunk because I hesitated (had bought a house a year earlier and was putting money into the house) and it was gone. I then paid the same amount for the AME. Learned a lesson there.

The only released show that I was at is 7-17-89 (and it’s missing the end of the first set).
I don’t need the shows I was at to be released, except for Tinley Park 90 (Brent’s last) on audio/video, since I already have copies of many of the shows. What’s missing are SBD copies of 6-27,28-95. Only AUD copies exist, don’t know why the SBDs aren’t in circulation, it’s not like these shows will ever see commercial release.

Glad to be getting the Giants Box.
Keep the releases coming and Plangentize all the good sounding reels.
Also, are there 90’s DAT or PCM masters that are worthy of release? I would like to hear what one of those sounds like after getting Normanized.
August 10, 2019 - 10:00am

#1538

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

William Tell has aimed his bow...

Hhhmmmm? Interesting stuff gentlemen?
If the recent wave of opinions here are any indication of just how diverse, and unfortunately divisive, this group is, Im not sure you could easily categorize so neatly? I think you could probably find a statistcal significance in a few groups with some similar traits i.e.,
Early years show goers who prefer to listen to early years
“ “ “ “ who listen to all years
“ “ “ “ who prefer later years
Later year show goers who prefer early years
“ “ “ “ who listen to all years
“ “ “ “ who prefer later years
Etc, etc....

But I guess Daverock’s question was how much influence being at a released show is?
I would assume that most would at least be interested in a RELEASED show if they were at it....that doesn’t mean that all would by it. Maybe they didn’t like the show, or had a bad experience? Or obviously some just don’t like to listen to certain eras. Some perhaps only have so much listening time so tend to stick with thier favorites.
Also, as we’ve discussed here before how suspect our memories are and how much the experience can sometimes skew our view so much that we’re surprised years later when we finally hear a recording of said show, for good, or for ill.
Personally, for a long time, I had gotten to the place many are at where I felt “I have enough Dead, I’ll never listen to it all” etc, which of course I’m having to live with now as I missed out on much, and have spent great sums trying to make up for it. Fortunately, their are some extremely kind folks here who have helped with that!!! But...
My criteria then was;
1) was I at the show? (I still would like to have some kind of copy of every show I was fortunate to be at, but I sure as hell don’t expect most to be “released”)
2) and/or if it was “a must have” particularly if it was from one of my favorite years, and that was it, otherwise I would not buy it. IDIOT!
I passed on E72 partly because of cost at the time, but I know if it was something that I was at or really wanted I would have found a way. But being the dipshit that I am, I was like “the song lists are all the same”.......”I already have Europe 72” IDIOT!! Obviously I hadn’t really caught the Dark Star bug yet and become a full blown junkie! Which is ironic because DS has always been a favorite? I guess just not “the” favorite yet....
Now, I feel like any show is worth at least considering and feel like if it’s an official release than tptb must of thought it worthy enough to produce it. Obviously that hasn't always played out, but I think most would agree that their batting average is pretty good, and official releases usually have enough of the boxes checked to be worthy of release, even if perhaps the contemplator won’t buy it or it’s not in their preference zone.
For me that’s often the 77-78 years. I’ll listen to some, but not often, and there has been so much released, that I won’t usually be up to buy more. But I’ll totally agree and understand why those shows are released and would not begrudge another that is into those years etc. Luckily, my cousin usually does so I can get a copy purely for collection purposes, and given the chance, I’ll listen to ANY dead show at least once!
But for me the fact is If it’s a show I was at it there is definitely I high probability I’ll get it.
I also think it’s nice when they have multiple options, like being able to just get the main 91 show from this box. I’m sure many folks would like the meat and potatoes without having to buy the whole farm. I haven’t been in that situation yet, but I would think that will happen some time?
Anyway, interesting thought? I’d be cool to hear others thoughts?
August 10, 2019 - 9:56am

#1539

boblopes

Joined:
January 13, 2009

LMG - thoughts and prayers to you - may the power of music help

LMG - thoughts and prayers to you - may the power of music help you thru it. Sending positive vibes your way.

I'm psyched they're releasing the only two 48 track shows recorded. I think if they grouped it with the other shows on the same tour, the difference in sound quality would be noticeable. Just like the two 1990 boxes sound different. By including shows from other dates with other lineups it won't be as apparent.

Any word what the Black Friday Vinyl release is as of yet?
August 10, 2019 - 8:14am

#1540

stoltzfus

Joined:
January 13, 2010

Aagh! LMG!

I am sooo sorry to hear that.

I obviously don't know you personally, but we have the grateful connection.

This summer has been a big reminder of mortality on many levels, personal, national, professional, and virtual.

Stay strong, my brother. We care. Listen to the music play, and we will, too.

John Perry Barlow

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

right on BobT

Raining here, too in Bong Land. I was able to wedge in some 9/27/72 and the Dew from DP7 for the last hour. :-)

Looks Like Rain - Bob songs

I like the 1972 versions when Jerry plays pedal steel, and the 1976-78 ones due to Donna's back up vocals. But it has never been a favourite of mine. That honour, for a Bob song, could be Greatest Story-not played that often, and always welcome. There is a great version in the 73 Winterland box-played on the 9th, where they sound to me as though they are going to go into St Stephen in the break. I'm not as keen on Sugar Magnolia as I used to be - and it sure crops up in a lot of shows !

Looks Like Pain(ful) to listen to...

My mother told me if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Too bad I don't always listen to her.

Whenver "Looks Like Rain" comes on, I skip to the next song. I've heard it enough. It's a horrid, mopey dirge. The rest of the band induldged Bob on this one, perhaps because he did give so many good songs.

I don't believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Dead & Co. has ever played that toilet.

\m/

Raining and 60 in Viking Land as well

Perhaps 11/20/78 is DaP 32? They got the Betty back, but have been listening to the audience in order to make a patch or two? Since the aud was near the top of the pile, they threw it on Sirius?

When LLR is done well, it's blissful . . .

I have had the good fortune...

of listening to a bunch of the box set shows on unofficial CDs

they are really, really good.

I am surprised. my initial reaction to the box announcement was "yeah that's nice", but now I am like "YEAH, that's gonna be cool!"

7/9/89: the jam in NFA is tremendous!
7/10/89: I take it there was a rain shower or two that night...?
6/17/91: winner...winner...winner...

it would actually be irresponsible of me to buy the box, but I am very tempted.

Maybe I'll find $200 on the street today

Guilty as charged

I am really looking forward to the '87 show. I might say most simply because of the dearth of 1987 releases. How many have there been, 2?

Looks Like Rain

I have a love/hate relationship to the song. I love the music/groove but find the lyrics brutal. Obviously, "streetcats making love" is cringe worthy. I'm pretty cynical about feline romance. I always wonder what Jerry thought about those lyrics. He had such impeccable taste, I bet he razzed Bobby about them a time or two. Didn't Barlow himself detest the lyrics? Still I usually love the musical groove of the song, especially in the early 80's. It seems like one of the few songs that really was at its best in the early 80's, along with Cassidy and Bird Song. Jerry seemed to love the ending groove of the song - his playing was usually fresh and original.

Ha...

"I'm pretty cynical about feline romance"

As you should be. Brilliant.

Box

This is my first box. How do they ship them? Do they box the box or use a padded envelope? Just curious. Thanks.

Streetcats making love

At some point in the past on this site (I don’t know exactly when because it all rolls into one), during a previous discussion about LLR, someone posted that “streetcats making love” refers to Pigpen and Janis.

Don’t know if that is true.

There are some good LLR’s with Donna.

Re: Carlo, First Box

First.. congrats.

All of mine have been hand delivered by bicycle messenger. All except one were delivered by a very buff MaryE herself on a 1976 sears bike complete with monkey bars, a banana seat and rainbow colored streamers twirling out from the bar ends. Santa could learn a lot from her work ethic. It's advised to invite her in for cookies and cocoa.

A word of advice though.. Best to have at least £84 on hand just in case yours is delivered by one of the evil UPS lords. :O

Shipping boxes....

....they are usually an art form of their own. I have all my boxes boxes, except the Spring '77. My wife of twenty years used it to mail hand towels to someone. I let her have it for approx two minutes, then realized I was overreacting. Or was I??

Box Boxes

Vguy, feel better about the stack of dead box boxes in my garage after reading your post. And yes, some of them are works of art themselves. I was at the '87 show and I am increasingly eager to get this box. My attitude has gone from an initial feeling of optimistic ambivalence to an exponentially increasing feeling of anticipation, especially after the first listen to the West LA Fadeaway from the '87 show. I have high hopes for sound quality for this box.

Fav Boxes

E72
FW69
Boxzilla (sans the fucking cost)
Winterland 73
Cornell, May 77 and Winterland 77
PNW 73/4
Spring 90 (both of them)
Warlocks
July 78
Then then the rest

I'm sure I am forgetting something but screw it.. those are my favorites.

Box art boxes

Guys, thanks for the interesting stories on the box art boxes for the box.

Vguy72

No, you were not overreacting to your wife's use of the box box. Let the darn women get her own box. It's bad enough they prevent us from having our motorcycles, man caves and shotguns. We have to have something of our own. P.S.- I made sure I was writing this in the closet lest she see this, right? Ha!!

Box boxes

The delivery boxes while definitely being art in itself, unfortunately are an ad to steal. Anyone who knows what they are and ltd. Has that more reason to steal it

agreed

They should box the box that boxes the box. Put a stealie on it though really small in an inconspicuous place. :-P

Scarlet>Fire Day

Hey hey!

The boys played Scarlet>Fire at 4 of the 5 shows played TDIGDH (9/13) - 83, 87, 91, and 93. The only one without it is 81, which is a good show (rarely a bad show at the Greek,) but alas, they played the S>F the night before.

Happy Friday, DeadLand! I'm going on a S>F binge!

Peace

@That's Otis Scarlet>Fire day

How can it not be a nice day!!! I saw the Landover show in 87!! I just got in the mail this morning the Fall 89 Jerry Garcia Band and Weir/Wasserman Long Island Sound 6 CD shows. Garcia website had it on sale a few weeks back so I ordered it. I can't remember why I didn't buy it when it first came out... bob t

Box Boxes

I totally agree the Box Boxes are a true art form.
Whoever suggested a box for the Box box is on to something.

When I bought an Alvarez 50th anniversary GD acoustic guitar, it too came is a beautiful box! I've definitely held on to some of these over time, but having just moved and landed in a cavernous alien lair, who knows where these box Boxes ended up.

There's gotta be a Dr. Seuss poem or wordplay out there somewhere about a Box of box boxes or the like.
Can any one say 'Russian Nesting Dolls'?

Happy Friday Deadfreaks.

Sixtus

RIP Eddie Money

Sad to hear these news...

Fav boxes?

The ones that have increased most in value on ebay.

Is It Just Me...

...or are there others reading these comments about boxes and wives with a head full of double entendres?

Box fetish

I was guilty of hanging on to all the boxes' boxes, but recently allowed them to be recycled. Got some new Magnepan speakers this spring, but hung on to those boxes as well, even though I would just drive the speakers up to the factory if there were a problem; I've purchased all my Magnepans directly from the factory. So the Maggie boxes went to recycling as well. :(

VGuy, how's the new Onkyo working? I propel my Maggies with a 25-year old Onkyo receiver/amp. That thing has been a great workhorse. Great value.

Eddie Money

Two Tickets to Paradise
Baby Hold On To Me

memories

y'all be cool, Eddie. RIP.

9-13-93 Scar>Fire

Hotter than I remembered...

Had RT stuck around, maybe we'd have seen more from '93.

Nice separation on the recording. Perhaps a series revival is in order? :-)

Happy Friday, folks...

LLR Controversy

Yeah it was a big deal for those of us old enough to remember. The street cats didn't take kindly to having their sacred ritual compared to animals fighting. Lotta violence, in the alleys, especially after the house cats started heckling them from their window sills.

Re: Feline Controvesy

Haa.. "heckling from the window sill"

And to this day, the street cats are plotting revenge against the house cat aristocracy.

Hot box

Great stuff is on the way, folks

Excellent work Dave and Co.

2 tickets to paradise.....

Sooooo, would that be Hampton?, the Rocks, perhaps the Greek or Frost??

Edit: or whatabout Gainesville?

Currently in...

4 13 85

Check it out, youll be glad u did

Earlier...

1 14 79

Ifn theyd pro-taped those early 79s....

Some classic GD

Most neglected show of 74 by me... 9/14/74 Olympia Halle

Giving it a listen on its 45 anniversary.. first 5 songs are audience before the board kicks in. I remember reading someplace how Bill talked about how good this show sounded, (maybe during Winterland 74 shows.) It's one of those shows lacking a big big jam for that year. No Playing in the Band either. I usually go from Alexandria Palace shows right to Dijon 9/18/74.... Just wanted to see if I am missing something. At the point in Scarlet where it kicks from Audience to Board. hmmm this is going to be fun!! Have a good weekend everyone, Bob t

9 14 74

9 14 74
Earlier i hated on the compendiums

The review of this one was a "debbie downer"

Morning Rockers!

Okay, so it's not morning.......but the point is Forensic Doc sends his regards (and I dare say listen to more '71!) He mentioned the 10/29/71 show was a winner (Cleveland). I immediately downloaded it, grabbed some album art work from the Dead and Co page, and planted that bad boy on my phone. Audio is good, performance is great and gets stronger as the show goes on. The Other One is red hot. Brokedown Palace is stunning. Great stuff. Keith is in his pre-grand piano days, so you get that sharp sounding barrel house rock 'n roll edginess of the stand-up pie-anner.

Bobby T, I don't know that 9/14/74 show at all. Sounds like I need to investigate. I was just emailing my Uncle Gary last night, marvelling at how good the Dark Star is from 2/22/74 (DaP 12 I think - Skeleton Skaters). Here Comes Sunshine from the next night is also fantastic - possibly my new all time favorite (and the audio of the soundboard is almost release quality). So yeah, I've been into the '74 cookie jar as well and look forward to your 9/14 recommendation.

HQ

This is the finest sounding listening party I've ever heard here. These tracks sound amazing. I can't wait for this box.

Last five:

Origin Suite - Michael Waldrop
Moanin' - Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers
Live In Studio - Gerry Gibbs Thrasher Dream Trio
Paris, Texas (soundtrack) - Ry Cooder
Time Out - The Dave Brubeck Quartet

9/14/74 Olympia Halle

Ok I try to be a positive voice when it comes to the Dead. Listen to Wharf Rat, Sugar Magnolia and Eyes of the World OMSN for the most enjoyable part of the show... Not to date myself but do you remember when you forgot to pop the tops of the cassette tape off so you couldn't accidentally tape over?? This was back in the 1980's.. That is what the sound board part of the show sounds like, until Wharf Rat... Bobby messes up lyrics early in Truckin.. Two big skips in Weather Report Suite.. Sorry I tried... bob t

Fire....

https://youtu.be/qz9OAVExL2g
....Fire On The Mountain. Chick magnet, this guy.
I remember popping tabs bob, and not just on cassettes. Shit. I just dated myself!

Thanks KF

And "Doc" indirectly it sounds. I am enjoying 10/29/71 this morning with coffee on the porch. Happy to hear you're in touch with forensicdoc. That man has some Dead knowledge! Here is the link if anyone is interested https://archive.org/details/gd71-10-29.sbd.miller.24999.sbeok.shnf

The listening party does sound clean! Does it drive anyone else nuts to hear the late era Bird Songs and NOT hear Weir playing his guitar part on the main melody??? In the seventies he and Jerry would play pretty much the exact same melody on top of each other, except for the last note. Jerry would go down a note and Bobby would go up one (I don't know if "note" is the right word, maybe it's octave or chord). I never hear Weir play his part on the 80s versions and it's like ending a song on an unexpected chord. My brain feels unresolved!

I finally took the plunge on the July 1978 box set. Now that I've ripped Bobby about Bird Song, I'm going to end on a good note by saying two of his long songs from this period sound even better than 1977. The Music Never Stopped and Estimated Prophet. They have much longer jams in them on these July '78 shows. I guess I should say they're better than the spring 1977 shows. I can't speak for autumn 1977 because I can't really recall. These are some of the most enjoyable renditions of the songs I've heard though.

There has been a lot of talk about a 1972 box set. What are the 10 best unreleased shows of the 2nd half? I'm only familiar with the Berkeleys and the Stanley theaters. They would be on my list, unless there is better. I hear about Austn a lot, but the sound board recording is too shabby for my ears.

Exile

Cool avatar name, probably my favorite Stones record. Took me some time to understand it, but one day it all clicked.

Your Bird Song comment caught my interest, because I recalled that Jerry, not Bobby, was the one who played higher on the 1972 /1973 performances (on the second part of that melodic line only; the opposite is true of the first part of the line). I only know this because I frequently listen on headphones and it's one of my top 4 or 5 favorite Dead songs.

I just tuned into the listing party version from 7/10/89, and I noticed a couple of things. First, Jerry is going low on that second part, instead of Bobby. So right off the bat, that is different from how he used to play it. And you're right, Bobby is not picking away at the same main Bird Song Melody along with Jerry. Bobby seems to be hitting some chords if he's playing during that part at all.

The second thing is, it sounds like there are two keyboard players, but I Googled a list of shows with Bruce Hornsby, and he's not listed as playing with the Dead on 7/10/89. I don't know what's going on with that. Maybe the list I Google just Incorrect and Hornsby is onstage? But the bottom line is as you said, Bobby is not playing that line, and nobody is hitting that high note that ends the second line of the melody.

Robert Frank R.I.P.

I read an obituary for the great photographer Robert Frank this morning. His photographs grace the cover of Exile On Main Street. A great artist of many years standing, mainly known for his seminal book of photographs, called simply "The Americans." He also worked with Jack Kerouac, and shot the infamous Stones film "Cocksucker Blues" on their 1972 tour of America.

😀

BobT: “reach for the gold ring, it just slips away, but......”
Vguy: that video made my day!

Edit: so when you date yourself, does that include dinner?

Oshino Dead Festival....

....today I learned there is an annual Grateful Dead festival in Japan.
https://youtu.be/Jyl3hL-4BsE
....I would go.
edit. Went and saw Iron Maiden Friday night. Impressive setlist and production. They still bring it. If you told me in 1982 that they would still be relevant and sell out the MGM Grand Garden Arena 37 years later, I told have asked to have some of what you were smoking. One of my first musical loves.
Got a whopping three hours of sleep before work the next day, but worth it. 🤘

Japan

We truly are everywhere!
Let’s go, you and I, while we can....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVCfFJ_l_4

The Dead in Japan

Except you would see people standing around with a finger in the air saying "Watashi wa kiseki ga hitsuyo"!!!!!

D&C Japan Tour

Japan deserves a D&C tour.

The FTW Box has crowd video before one of the shows and there is an old Japanese Head who says he flew in from Japan and didn’t have a ticket. That’s Deadication, hope he got in for at least one night.

Bobby and the Valentines
8-27-94 Japan

https://youtu.be/oD3fEr7Xd0M

D&C really should do a Japan, Australia, NZ, Hawaii tour for the GD fans on that part of the globe.
A European tour too, can’t leave them out.

Anyway, speaking of rock n roll in Japan.

Cheap Trick at Budokan!!!!!!

Without that album Cheap Trick may not have been mentioned in Fast Times At Ridgemont High.

Spicoli.

Take that Vguy.

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