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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • #311
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    7.9.89 is my favorite....

    ....says me.

  • #312
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    Eel Box

    The highlight of the JGB Eel box was the '89 show, and the highlight of this box for me is that first '89 show. A pleasing symmetry.

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    big into the national... not trying to be rude or dissenting probably mostly annoyed by the service ....the 87 show is hot cuz luv good west la...but i still can't reason with anyone that thinks this isn't unnecessary or overpriced regardless your 'numbers'.... and i knew the video would be as is, its just worse than i thought but will never watch again so no big deal like you said pretty much an extra. Just saying its like dead.net is like we'll release anything at any price and it will sell out... just think we should expect more or less without the hasslehoff

    also:

    JGB EEL 87
    SVR blues at sunrise
    Hag/Jones kickin out the footlights again
    mad season rip layne staley

    peace love safe travels open minds different thoughts builds concrete ideas

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    Overpriced?

    Jim, your analysis of the cd prices is spot on, I always balance the sticker shock of the boxes with the per disc price, and the per disc price is always reasonable even before considering the extras. And let's not forget, Dark Side of the Moon is fantastic, but new it is not. If you look at the price of new releases the per disc price often exceeds $11. As an example, look at the price of the remixed 50th Anniversary Abbey Road - $12.97, or look at the box sets released by other artists - when I looked at the price of the Pink Floyd Early Years box or the late years box, the dead boxes seem like a way better value. I mean Led Zeppelin, The Doors, the Beatles, and the Rolling Stones all have box set versions of some of their single album releases and they look way more expensive per disc even if they do include a vinyl copy in some of them. And man, vinyl, talk about expensive...

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    I was stoked to see both the show selection for 32 and the artwork, which looked pretty cool to me. Knowing how good DaP 16 3/28/73 and DaP21 4/2/73 are, I am really looking forward to getting 3/24/73 for DaP32.

    Kriyas, glad you got your box, curious to know what you think of the shows once you give them a listen. I thought the entire box was stellar. As far as the video, yeah, if it was shot on VHS, transferring it to Blu-ray or DVD won't really improve the image quality. Haven't even watched the video myself, probably will at some point but who knows, wasn't really a major selling point for me in the first place.

    As far as the box format, bells and whistles vs. plain brown wrapper, I like some bells and whistles but I am a fan of objects of delight of any kind, things to brighten my space. Having said that ...I am now out of shelf space for these box sets, the Giant Stadium box is still sitting on the coffee table while I figure out where to put it. Of course, I also am out of shelving for regular CD's as well so there is a growing stack of CD's sitting on the turntable, so apparently I need to build or buy more shelves. I do prefer if they stick to more compact boxes like the first May '77 box and the July '78 box, both of which seem about the perfect size to me, but, I find that the artwork on the boxes and the DaP series generally strikes me as ranging from "pretty cool" to "I fucking dig that", but maybe I am just easy to please. As far as the subscription model, I am ok with it, I pay my money in November and forget about it's time for the shows to drop. It works and so far I get three shows that I am psyched with and one that I am ok with each year. If two out of three aint bad, three out of four is pretty good.

    Interesting last 5 list, gotta dig Waylon Jennings he has some great stuff. I've been starting to expand my country music collection after checking out most of the recent Ken Burns documentary.

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    Bad customer service and an unstable product.. I can deal with. The argument for some time was growing pains, problems with outsourcing, errant and disgruntled employees taking boxcutters to CDs.. whatever. I get that.

    But the cost per CD excluding the Bluray is $11 per CD. On Amazon right now, Dark Side of the Moon is $9.43 no Bluray.

    Overpriced, really? No. Not one bit. I'd call this a bargain. The Best I Ever Had.

    Edit: By the price per CD excluding BluRay =$11, I mean this assumes the BluRay is free. This has value too, how much, I don't know don't care. Clearly in bargain territory.

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    6-16-91 Set 1

    Have to take back my previous comments about vocals being a bit low on the 6-16-91 show in the first set. Just listened again this time sober (lol) and this mix/recording sounds incredible. Awesome show as well!

    Love this boxset! Very happy :D

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    got this set today, sorry for post the other day, still comes down to no customer service. ..first impression only watched video wished I wouldn't have, sorry but to see Jerry like that is just so heartbreaking....and the video quality is like every other GD I've seen, like crappy vhs really but oh well that was the only time I'll watch it anyhow. GD is just about the only non digital music I buy anymore. I once again vote to dial these back there is no reason this is a $170 boxed set. Maybe $100 but its too much and to have to deal with the hassle of no customer service is crazy. Also get rid of subscriptions and limited additions , bonus disks, c'mon no band with such a following hassles every release like this. The music is put out that you can get now or maybe later if it doesn't fit your time or budget. I also vote for blank covers or a picture of the band compared to some of the terrible art work on most these. They should release a quality show every few months in a more simple cd form and as download. Even with this box is there any reason for it? any reason these shows can't be released individually and at a reasonable price? The format of the subscription and the boxed set is old and are any of these shows like deserving some grand release? I love the Dead and all years , some more than others but c'mon I think we should really push for more simpler releases from all years without overpriced boxes, subscriptions and limited additions, just give us the music at quality and reasonable prices....sorry bout that but seeing Jerry in that video just got me down, sorry just having bad couple weeks....oh dig the HAnk III funny just played satan is real at work this week

    did some: this week:

    dylan.... hard rain
    hendrix.... axix: bold as love
    George harrison.... all things must pass
    Waylon jennings.... grts hits
    Nick cave ....b sides and rarities vol 3
    Bonnie Raitt ....collection
    Patti Smith/// land

    new tool feels like (hooker with a penis...send me your money fu buddy) sorta like recycled mostly nothing new nothing to sing to, it ok but its one note probably drinking some george jones....

  • #319
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    Getting caught up, I'm way back now (page 34). Missed a conversation on Hank 3, just wanted to chime in I loved his stuff...one of the first concerts I saw too, April 2006. Some of his later stuff has gotten out there, but I do like the Straight To Hell album for what it is. That portion of the show in April '06 was fantastic..the Assjack ("Hellbilly") section afterwards was uh, uncomfortable even just making it for the exit.

    Plethora of releases here lately, holy cucumber. New Avetts album (not bad, though I prefer their cover of LWIII's Swimming Song as far as recent performances go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3sesfZD9Zc ), new OCMS live at the Ryman (going to see them there soon...the Mother Church, love it), new Sturgill, Abbey Road..and of course, all the Dead.

    Only been sampling at the Giants box set so far, but loving what I hear. Those 48 track recordings are something else.

    Today's shout out however is to 8/6/74, Jersey City, Me & My Uncle. The mix and the performance together make it quite the showcase for Keith. One thing I do love about the 'authentic' boots compared to the mastered releases, they all have their quirks and represent different angles, different perspectives. Love the official releases but I almost lament relying on those and not bootlegs of the day (how spoiled).

    Heard Dylan may have a new drummer this Fall....gonna miss ol' George Receli if that's true. Got tickets for several shows and the tour starts tomorrow (for Dylan, not me), so we shall see.

    One last video find for words of parting (actually, someone may have posted this here, sorry I can't remember), if there's any Robert Johnson fans....this protector of the blues vernacular is insane, and I'm jealous. I'm sure of it. I hate him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOQl_RpndU

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    Yup, you are correct. It was definitely known as the Rectum 'cause the venue and surrounding area indeed was a dump and a little sketchy.
    I just thought it would be fun to do a little switch-a-roo on the name play by kinda describing how me & friends felt after shows there. And I mean in the good way...;O)

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 20:36

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Candy-O and Peggy-O mysterious.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 20:51

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....just Cars albums. An unfortunate phase. But, actually a blessing. Reminds me of high school and they have some really good songs. A perfect blend of pop/punk. Orr passed a few years ago. Rock on sirs.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 21:21

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Didn't realize he was that old (75). I own the debut album and greatest hits. Don't know much about Rick as a person, but I think it says volumes about him that he wrote all of the songs and gave half of the major hits to Benjamin Orr to sing. Especially their sophomore album Candy-O. Rick had just written this smash debut album; his political pull would have been peaking, but instead of taking the two best songs for himself, he gave them to the guy who could sing them better (Lets's Go, and It's All I Can Do). But man did they burn out quickly. They went from air wave owners to recluses overnight it seemed.

I've been listening to some tracks on youtube. There's some kind of 80s auto play going on and Genesis / Abacab came on after a Cars tune. I love this song, always have. It ain't Supper's Ready, but hey, what was in '81.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 21:29

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....tonight. I remember that song being played on the radio every thirty minutes. Like clockwork. Justified, because it's a great song.....man.....
An interesting thing about The Cars is that Orr and Ocasek had the same tone in their singing. Hard to tell them apart.
Upon closer inspection, Easton plays a pretty mean guitar. Yeeeeah!

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 22:15

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Ric O, yall be way cool.

RIP

Thanks for the great music, bro

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 07:35

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re Country Music

ol' Jer made a (still photo) cameo, when a list of people who have covered Jimmie Rodgers was discussed.

what passes for "country" today (it filters down occasionally even to me..."I'm gonna roll my windows down"..."rain makes corn, corn makes whiskey, whiskey makes my baby a little frisky" (or something to that effect)...blech) and what was "country" back in the day are two different things.

you can't deny the influence of old school country on the GD sound, in any case.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 07:36

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get rid of that stupid reCAPTCHA nonsense. please.

I had to go through SEVEN screens to get approved.

traffic lights, mountains and hills, traffic lights, buses...GRR.
DUMB.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 09:03

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...Magic....I remember back in what, 6th or 7th grade, I made my first ever call to a radio station one night requesting they play 'Magic' by The Cars. It's one of my first music impressions that's stuck with me. 'Heartbeat City' was BIG on the ariwaves back then, and as VGuy stated, they played 'Drive' literally every 30 minutes on the radio....I recently bought a new copy of that CD about 2 years ago and recalled at what a great output it was/is.

RIP.

Sixtus

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Submitted by LedDed on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 10:14

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The Cars first two albums are gold. Candy-O, the song, came over the ipod when I was running Saturday, and I was like, hell yes! This is why I have the Cars in my shuffle. For those not knowing the deeper album cuts, go get those first two records right now. Elliot Easton is a blazing soloist whose tasty guitar would be right at home on a Steely Dan record.

It's not for me to say, but my personal feeling is that this began when Paulina left him. I've never known an older fella who could take it too well when the old lady leaves... I'm just sayin'. Sad.

Good Times Roll just came over the radio at work as I'm typing this - and the "captcha" on the site is "cars." You can't make this stuff up.

Sometimes, these things do come in threes. Eddie Money and Ric Ocasek in the same week? Hopefully there isn't a third. It does appear Eddie Van Halen is ill again. Best wishes to him and the Ocasek family.

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Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band:
Safe as Milk
Bootleg from 4/22/74
Bootleg from NY, 1978
DaP 31
Garcia Live 11: 11/11/93

Certainly have rocked out to plenty of Eddie Money and The Cars in my life. R.I.P., fellas . . .

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 12:25

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a few years ago, I went to buy "something" at a friend's house.

I bought
we enjoyed the effects
Cars' Magic played
and it sounded reeeeeeally good

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Submitted by UncleJohn61 on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 15:05

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I bought the first Cars album when in came out in 1978 and saw them open for the Doobie Brothers that summer. I loved the song "Moving in Stereo" back then but every time I hear the opening notes, I see Phoebe Cates getting out of the pool in that red bikini. Every young man's dream. I need to watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High again.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 16:07

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Had the double cassette with each album on a side in the mid-80’s and it got a lot of play.

Coming in 3’s.
Neal Casal
Eddie Money
Ric Ocasek

Hopefully done.

And Rod Stewart appears to have beaten prostate cancer.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 16:22

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Wonder if that will mark the beginning of sending email shipping notifications, receipt of the Box by a lucky few, or nothing at all because the new warehouse failed in some way.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 17:09

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Just to see them in that setting with the pyramids and lunar eclipse!!! So jealous... yes so many shows to go see in a time machine but that place just must have been amazing!!! Happy anniversary!! Love the Ollin Arageed to Shakedown!!! bobt

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 17:30

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It takes a fast car lady to lead a double life
It takes a slow star lady if you want to do it twice
You take your backseat rumble
Take your front seat wife
Takes a fast car lady to lead a double life...

Candy-O, a great album cover for a great album.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 18:26

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Let's hope we get this baby this weekend with the moved up date!

I have been listening to Dave's 21 over the last couple of days. That monster show from April 2, 1973 at the Boston Garden. 34 songs! Unreal! Sound quality is amazing. My favorite China-Rider, great Box of Rain, the whole show Jerry seems to be doing something special. Here Comes Sunshine, WRS and then Eyes!
Made me think we might be due for March 24, 1973 at the Spectrum. Another killer Spring show and part of the cache of returned Betty Boards.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 06:57

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I love Dave's Picks 21 for the exact same reasons. I'm glad you mentioned the date of the show, because I can never remember the numbers. I just call that one Recommendations From The Dead, because Dick Latvala had wonderful things to say about that show in an article I read, I'll see if I can find it later and post it. Check out the last 2 minutes of Casey Jones. It's not like me to find a special moment in that song, but this performance is just intense at the end. I've compared the China Rider between this show and the March 28th show with the Scooby-Doo house cover, and I think it's this super sound quality of number 21 that gives China Rider a big edge in my mind.

Ah here it is. I am quoting Dick Latvala:

The version of "Eyes of the World" from
4/2/73- Boston is one of the best, as are versions of "Greatest Story Ever Told", "Big River", "China Cat-> Rider" and "Playingin the Band". But the highlight has to be the JAM segment following "Here Comes Sunshine.

End quote. That is one hell of an endorsement. I trust dick more than I trust Bobby or Phil when it comes to this stuff :D. Although he did often change his mind about things....

It's DP 23 from my morning commute. Don't have time to listen to the whole thing, so I did my favorite thing when it comes to cherry picking from1972 shows: I started off with Promised Land and followed up with Bird Song (like DP 36).

Here is the full article / blog from Dick:

http://www.agitators.com/gd/dick_1973.html

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I have some stuff in a storage facility
I was there over the weekend
another person was there, listening to some music
as I was loading the car, Buddy Holly's original version of Not Fade Away played

just...interesting.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 08:09

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I was twelve when Fast Times came out, so was certainly not allowed to go see it. Never did see it, but was watching the first episode of the new season of Stranger Things last night, and enjoyed a pool scene in that, set to Moving In Stereo (still just a killer song . . . ). The characters were all discussing Phoebe Cates in the episode, and hanging out at the new mall.

All of this chat today drove me to investigate, and after seeing clips of Cates and Fast Times, the entire Stranger Things episode makes SOOOooo much more sense. Thanks!

Fast Times at Ridgemont High - that pool scene with Phoebe Cates.. goodness.

Mike Damone, 'evil scalper.'

People on Ludes should not drive.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 10:33

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Sigh.

Was so embarrassed when I lent out Fast Times on VHS to my future brother-in-law in the pre-DVD days; he returned it and said the "famous scene" looked all blurry and was marred with video tape tracking lines.

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Submitted by SkullTrip on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 11:12

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The Cars first album was the first album I ever purchased. $4.99 at Sam Goody. I still have it.

Years later, I was lucky enough to have drinks with Ric Ocasek and John Waters at the Club Charles in Baltimore (during the production of "Hairspray"). He was very cool and soft-spoken, but also very funny.

Bowie, Petty, The Cars -- all cornerstones of my youth. Time can be a real bitch.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 15:25

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...my dad's a tv repairman. I can fix this.

(tv repairmen...gone the way of the dodo...)

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Haven’t been lurking here in a while but saw the talk today of Dave’s 21 and went back to parts of it on the drive home. Forgot just how great this release sounds. This is the right amount of Phil in this China>Rider!

As for DaP 32, I’m still thinking we’re due for a Fall ‘72. I guess we’ll see soon enough.

Excited for this box release though. Hoping the shipping emails start soon. Glad to see the date bumped up a week.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 18:10

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Reading the Phoebe Cates posts from Stoltsfuz and Keith Fan and the rest of you with the Spicoli quotes. I started from the top of the page and worked my way down, laughing and then laughing some more. When I got to Keith Fan and the worn-out VHS tape I literally fell off my bar stool. I think we all wore that part of the tape out. Rewind, play, rewind, play, rewind, pause. Same thing happened to my Cornell tape at the end of Morning Dew.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 19:25

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.... Phoebe Cates double post. Sue me.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 19:30

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....I have no idea what you're talking about. I need to speak my lawyer please.
Hey. Jennifer Jason-Leigh was no slouch either. No one talks about her.
Excuse me. My lawyer just texted me. Brb.
Cone Kid. I spent Sunday night playing nothing but Cars concerts on YouTube. The Cars are still on tap today. They are what I consider timeless.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 19:40

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Movie came out august 1982

So she would have been 18 when filming

Wow...what a scene.

JJL....wheeee!

Care for a carrot, ladies?

....by the string of her bikini. Ok. I'm done.
If I recall correctly, Heartbeat City was the first record that I made my mom drive me to Tower Records to purchase on release day. I'm pretty sure I'm correct. Or was it The Warehouse? Another liquidated music store. Got my driver's license soon after. Tower Records ended up getting a lot of my money at that point.
Memories man. Memories.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 20:42

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....reminds me about how much the Dead were trendsetters (I can say that, right?). Every set was the same. As it was for 93.6% of bands. Iron Maiden rarely strays. But when it comes to the Grateful Dead, you never knew what was in store.
I promise, as soon as the Expanded version of Heartbeat City ends, they are up to bat. I just realized, I haven't listened to any GD since Sunday. That is weird. Trust me.
Segue. My Dolphins are literally trying to be the worst NFL team EVER!
Vegas Golden Knights are 2-0 in preseason. When life gives you lemons, lean on ones locally born team. Recipe for success.
Unless you were born in Miami. But I digress....

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Submitted by kevinbrandon on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:27

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I wonder if Phoebe Cates would laugh at her name being flung all over a Grateful Dead site.... Ok one more Fast Times comment but doesn't Mike Damone look like a young Alex Van Halen....."Now when you order order for the lady...it's a classy move, Now the lady will have the linguine with the white clam sauce and a coke with no ice"

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:33

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....with a disclaimer. "As part of our ongoing efforts to deliver your item(s) quickly, your package might not have a packing slip. If you want to double check the details of your order you can take a look at the summary below."
I'm not quite sure what that means. A hot mess is the first term that comes to mind. I'm texting my lawyer. Why the fuck should I have to double-check my order? Ugh.
I need some Phoebe. Ok. Really. This time I'm done....

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:47

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Got my shipping notice as well. I was also on a little dead break lately, but my 50th anniversary Aoxomoxoa came today so I gave the live disc a spin, some cool stuff on there, Clementine caught my ear on the first listen.

Been on a non-dead, mostly late '70s kick lately ... Blondie - Parallel Lines, Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True, Joe Jackson - Look Sharp! (listened to that about 4 times, cool album), Cars - Candy-O, Blood Sweat and Tears - Blood Sweat and Tears, The Who - Tommy.

Funny how many posts that reference to Fast Times generated, might be time for another viewing.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:55

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....I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say that a majority of us are within the 45-55 yo Goldilocks Zone.
I just got some really good weed, so don't listen to me. This ain't my papi's stash.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 06:26

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Vguy you make me laugh. "I want to party with that dude" I barely made it into your Goldilocks zone, but you are on the mark.

Holyshit I am at a red light next to a cement mixer that's spinning with about a 6in steel my face sticker on it. I want to party with that dude too.

The Fast Times line my brother and I always quote to each other is during his dream sequence when he's surfing and being interviewed after winning the competition: "Where'd you get that jacket?!?" "The network gave it to me Jeff..." I don't know why, but that one gets me everytime.

My freshman year in college there was a guy we nicknamed Spicoli, and it stuck. He was one of the coolest cats I ever ran into, and he bumped across the hall from me, so there was a lot of late-night wred, beer and Led Zeppelin. I was chiefly in my Zeppelin phase at that time, and it was his favorite band. We mixed Robert Plant's manic nirvana in there too. Yeah that was a great record. It didn't have as many hits as the one before it whose title I forget, but it was heavier and had that awesome song tie-dyed on the highway, with the Wavy Gravy intro from Woodstock. Kind of funny he wrote a song about Woodstock, considering he didn't go with his band. In hindsight, there were some real great bands that turn down that gig for one reason or another. How did the stones not go? The doors? Even the Beatles could have gotten something together, though they were all but done by that point.

Trainwrecked I have this vision of you sitting at a bar by yourself with your cell phone out reading dead net posts. I've been there buddy, I've been there. What does FOMBS mean? Google doesn't even know. Yeah I was that curious.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 06:27

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...'cause I got my shipping notice as well for this behemoth. Very much looking forward to these shows, man. And that Blu Ray will look damn fine on my 80-inch'er with booming surround.

I also found the various Fast Times references to be a jolly trot down memory lane. Watching those "old" movies through the eyes of our "now times" is quite interesting. The things they used to get away with - aka no one even batted an eye - sigh. Wishing for simpler times I suppose.

That's when we put in one of these shows, turn it up to 11, and enjoy the simplicity of the utter complexity of Good 'Ole GD.

Sixtus

P.S. - KeithFan & DEAD Dreams - Absolutely, yes, yes. I have had a recurring dream - it used to happen a lot more, but I definitely have had and DO have dreams of being at a Dead show...it is mostly the ANTICIPATION of the boys going on stage....but I can even see the venue in my dream - it's sort of looks like the old Roman Colosseum, but it goes down instead of built up (aka it's built down into the ground) and I have this vision blazed into my head of me & some friends walking along the top and looking down and seeing Jerry and all the boys playing, with the music enveloping us and mostly just that overwhelming giddy feeling of anticipation/joy at seeing them there, playing, making everyone else as happy as I am in my dream.  It's EXTREMELY vivid.  I could shoot it to film if I had the actors to do it, it's that ingrained.
So, yes, you are certifiable.  But I suppose, so aren't we all?

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Submitted by Exile On Main St. on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 06:52

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Thank you for your Bird Song analysis. I have been meaning to post about it. I listened after reading your comments and you're absolutely right. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when they figured out how to play that part. I wonder why they changed it in the 80s? If I had to guess, I would say its too intricate for Bob Weir to enjoy playing. I noticed that he also skips out on China Cat Sunflower in the 80s and 90s. There was some very similar guitar work in that song.

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 08:50

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Listening to the Dijon CD from 30 Trips...... Would love the complete tour 3 England, 1 Germany, and 3 France shows.... Or how about a Fall 74 box where you could throw in the 7 Europe shows and the 5 Winterland October shows!!! Dreaming because i know we have parts of the 3 Alexandria Palace shows, parts of the 5 Winterland shows, and the whole Dijon.....

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