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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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    your pm's have what you want

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    R.I.P. Mr. Baker

    Until I saw the Beware Mr. Baker movie I didn't know a lot about Ginger Baker, only that he was a very highly regarded drummer. I don't even know Cream, except for Sunshine and White Room. I can't believe they did not get more air play on FM radio. Blind Faith is all I own with him.

    What impressed me the most about Mr Baker was his confidence in his song arranging capability. He made it sound like he contributed a great deal to the music production, not just drumming.

    Love how he scoffed at the mention of Bonham and Moon being great drummers. I would love to have heard his opinion on Peart.

    Can't believe he blew all of that reunion tour money. Horses? It's been awhile since I saw the movie. Was he doing a lot of drugs? That'll burn through a million bucks pretty quick.

    Well I keep telling myself I need to get into that Allman Brothers Fillmore East box set from 1971 as soon as I get bored of the Dead. That hasn't happened yet and I've had the box set for well over a year. But I really should by the cCeam records in order.

    Stoltzie. I started to listen to that 84 show you mentioned last night. It was late and I fell asleep after the first two songs but I really enjoyed the funky keyboard sound. I've never heard that before. You know what I mean.

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    Hmm. I listened to dew and Mabey it was a mic. swap at 2nd set break. Jerrys guitar vol. seems ok to me for a quieter song but like jim said ,you would not hear that loud clapping in the mic. so clearly at that distance. Mabey they had an aud. Mic. just for Dew but I doubt it. Kind of nit picking but still strange. The clapping seems quite loud on dew only. When Jerrys noodling on space the aud. Is quite distant. But it still a stellar show!

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    I did.. spent the last half hour listening to that with headphones.

    Mustin 1, JimInMD 0. There is something in that mix.. For my first listen, I just did the first set, then started with the second set the next day. But tonight I started with Bertha (why not) and then into the second set.

    I certainly screwed the pooch on that one. I wonder what was up? It was the clapping towards the end that just would not come through on stage.

    Sorry.. I was flat out head face planted deep in the snow wrong on that one.

    Good catch.

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    Listen to that Dew again. It's clearly a different source vs the first set and the rest of the second set. It's not just a few seconds, but the whole song. This has nothing to do with the crowd reaction.

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    Well put Senator. Cracked me up.

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    Morning Dew....

    ....the boyz could place that particular song anywhere, even in a Day Job->Dew->Childhoods End, and I would be appreciative.

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    I don't think there is any matrix action on the '87 Morning Dew, but I could be wrong.

    ...but if it were a matrix, it would be part soundboard, part aud.. so why mix in audience? They often do this right before and after aud patches to lessen the impact before we go full-bore into aud territory, but this does not seem to be the case here.

    I think it's more likely that the crowd, being in New York, went ape shit simply because they opened the second set with Morning Dew, which was a rarity as a set opener by '87. So if the crowd goes absolutely ape shit, the crowd noise will come through the vocal mics.. and if it's really loud and well recorded.. for a few brief seconds it sounds like an audience recording.

    That's my take.

    As for where Jerry's guitar sounds in the mix, perhaps it was just the performance. On occasion they opened shows with MDew, and opened the second set with MDew, but I always thought the song was more powerful when used late in the second set, as a ballad crescendo-meltdown song rather than as a cold opener. I guess what I am trying to say is I noticed the same thing but had different thoughts as to the reasoning. As a set opener, they seemed to have a more difficult time finding their groove with this tune compared to when it came later in the set after they were warmed up, and often on fire..

    As always, I reserve the right to be absolutely, cold-opener wrong. It's pretty subjective territory, but that's my take. Perhaps I should listen to it again to be sure.

    Chalk it up to 70k New Yorkers, perhaps more than few just beginning to peak, flipping out and losing their shit simply because the second set opened with Morning Dew and Jerry and the boys being less nimble then when this song appears later in the set.

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    Yep! I noticed the same thing on Dew and commented on it in the Giants boxset thread on the phish.net forum. 87 first set sounds fantastic and then that Dew to start the 2nd set is noticeably different and sounds like either an audience or matrix. Things go back to the board as Playin starts and gets better as that song goes along. Who knows. Maybe there were issues on the master reels for Dew and they had to use a different source.

    Only other minor mixing complaint for me is vocals are mixed a little low on 6-16-91 (havent listened to 6-17 yet), but that's a very minor quibble.

    Otherwise thought the shows sounded awesome with a really great mix!

    Thought the shows themselves were excellent overall! Not a clunker in the set and the energy is awesome in all of them! 6-16 is a fantastic show start to finish which I was not expecting. Oh, and how about that Black Peter with the extended jam at the end? Phenomenal Black Peter!

    Awesome boxset though and surpassed my expectations a bit. :D

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    dont look at them ahead of time. Many pleasant surprises.

    If 5 8 84 was your "first time", vguy, then you got a goooooood one

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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Switching gears a bit here...

I know '76 is a hit or miss year for a lot of Heads, but after a short Hendrix marathon yesterday, I decided to spin Dick's 33 for the first time in a long while.

Reminded me how much I loved that release when it first came out. Lots of great stuff in both shows.

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You're welcome Exile. It was an interesting listening experience.

Skulltrip. I also popped on a '76 show a half hour ago with DaP 28. Cousins of.....avatar guy once pointed out how good Scarlet Begonias could get during the 2nd half jam in '76, before FOTM was attached to it. DP 33 is a steller example.

I am here to say - the between song banter on DaP 28 is so loud and funny. Maybe need headphonea

Dave's 28 is actually one of my favorite recent releases, KeithFan. It's gotten a lot of spin since it arrived in my mailbox.

And agreed on those '76 Scarlet Begonias. The '74s used to be my favorite stand alone versions for the longest time (Dave's 9 immediately comes to mind), but the ones from '76 definitely have a specific vibe that I've come to really dig.

Skulltrip and Keithfan,
76 is great stuff. Haven't come across a bad release yet. Some are better than others as far as sound quality is concerned. Dick's 33 is one of the best.

No shipping notice for me yet😭.
For those that have received them, what is the expected arrival date?

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My notice had a tracking number link for UPS and that indicated an expected delivery date of Monday 9/23.

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I had less than an hour left at work and decided it has been a while since I listened to Dave's Picks Volume 9. Cranked it through my headphones and had enough time for the first five songs. The last song I listened to before walking out the door was Scarlet Begonias from DaP 9. Then I read your post in the parking lot and now I'm replying at the gas station (no more posting and driving for me :D

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7 13 89 second set opens with hes gone
"Steal your face right off your head"
As those lyrics happen i see

What else

A syf sticker on the car ahead

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Nice, KeithFan! I love when the big generator makes those synaptic connections. What my uncle used to call a "cosmic coincidence".

Dave's 9 is one of my fave and most played picks, and that particular Scarlet Begonias always gets me grinning. Everything about it hits my ear right in the sweet spot.

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Golly-- the Release Date is tomorrow and mine hasn't even shipped yet. Lame. Has anyone else gotten Shipping notices?

No tracking # included in the email.
It says ‘Tracking Number’, but it was blank where there was supposed to be a number.

Guess its arrival date will be a surprise.

Fingers crossed for this weekend.

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No tracking number this time around? Was it shipped UPS or USPS? Are we all praying to the gods, old and new, that this thing makes it to our front doors? Here's hoping all these box sets find their way home.

Received mine as well this morning. Same deal as others with no tracking.
I guess they are going with let's hope it gets there theory. I believe Charlie received some tracking information.
Strange way to run a business in 2019.

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I got my shipping notification late on Tuesday and it did come with tracking info from UPS. It's saying it'll get here on Monday the 23rd after originally quoting me Friday the 20th. Understandable, given I'm in Houston and we're getting some flooding this week.

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I think one of the next two Dave's Picks is going to be from Autumn 72. Maybe one of the Boston Music Hall shows from September 15th or 16th. I was just listening to the sound board of a Bird Song from the 16th and it is so so good. Any other Keith fans out there are going to enjoy the piano work he was doing on that one . It's a little low in the mix but you can definitely hear him working . The other show has a good Dark Star => Brokedown Palace (it appeared on 30 days of Dead a couple of years ago. While I would like to see it cap off 2019, I could also see him using it as the poster child for the 2020 Dave's Picks subscription. Can somebody please end this 1972 drought for fuck's sake. Give us Dark Stars. That's really the dream box set for me. Give me a 20 show box set where every show has a Dark Star. " the Dark Star Constellation". If Warner Brothers wants to put me under contract for 5 years to go marketing, I'll follow dead and Company and double the DaP subscription rate and box set production numbers. $200K a year + travel expenses and conjugal visits.

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....I got one. Box left Indianapolis. Slated for Monday delivery. 🤞

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The latest 45 came the same way no tracking, and it was delivered by usps. So assumed smartpost.

UPS says I have a package coming tomorrow from WEA D2C Distribution.

Good thing that UPS knows the tracking number.

I highly recommend signing up for a UPS My Choice account. They will email you whenever they receive a tracking number going to your address. You can then watch the progress using the app.

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Thanks for the information on the UPS my choice cone kid. Really cool, love the technology there. Low and behold mine is scheduled for tomorrow! Sweet!
Thank you!
Excited now.

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>>> This weed I stumbled upon recently is almost too hard to handle. Almost.

I think Jerry sings a song about that,,,,

"This is the bone that killed Bob Marley,,, won't kill me"

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Thought of you last night.

Caught a few minutes of a Johnny Knoxville movie last night (I don't usually watch Johnny), call the Ringer. He was looking to enter the special Olympics to raise money and he's being pushed by his uncle to do it. And he was Uncle Gary! Is your Gary the kind of guy who'd enter the special Olympics?

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THEY tell me tomorrow by 4,,, only have word on the box,,,, not the LP's

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No shipping notification yet. Checked my order on dead.net and it tells me it hasn’t shipped yet. Let’s hope this means it is being dispatched correctly to the UK and I might see it in three weeks or so with no extra freight charges. I notice my DaP 2019 subscription says #32 is released on 1st November so only a few weeks to go.

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I recently chatted with a CS rep and said we need a Fall 72 box, her response was that they are saving 72 for the Dave's Picks series, whether that will be next we'll see?.. ;)

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Currently, my box is parked 35 miles Northeast of Bong. Delivery set for 9/20. :-)

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I also agree that this monster show is killer. The 'Here comes sunshine' and 'eyes' shine. Most key songs are a generous length in sweet time. Can't wait for the giants box. 4/2/73 sat in limbo till a few comments made me whip it out. Peace.

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Damn google voice translator.

Dennis would you believe i have an uncle dennis as well. He shipped me my Grateful Dead starter kit, with copies of Ladies & Gentlemen, Nassau, Dozin' and....what was the 4th one...anyway.

Moses Quasar - funny you mentioned saving the '72 shows for Dave's Picks, because I was mulling over where they might make the most money on the '72 shows. Tough to say. On the one hand those shows would be a great way to sell Dave's subscriptions, but on the other hand they could make a hefty bundle of cash on a box set. I think they need to strike while the iron's hot. I would venture to say demand for 1972 will never be higher than it is right now. It does stand to lose it's high stock price over time though, as Dead & Co won't last forever (definitely helps sales), and we ain't all getting younger.

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I also revisited 4/2/73 after seeing the comments here the last couple of days, and it did not disappoint. Great sound and a smoking show throughout. As noted, the Eyes is pretty stellar.

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Like a fine wine in a vintage year.. these shows will likely cellar well for decades to come and do nothing but increase in value. Love them as I do, D&C is a mere thin and fizzy champagne in comparison.

Who knows what will become of all the 72 shows, when and how they will get released and I suspect not all are in the vault just yet. There appears to be shows that do circulate as glorious soundboards that Dave has not been able to get his grubby little paws on just yet.

I am also suspect that a customer service rep would give out details like this without them getting leaked to the real insiders.. but this is all speculation. I don't think this really gives us anything to go on.

One way to look at things from this point forward is.. when they break it all down, box sets vs. special releases vs. Dave's Picks all sell for about the same price per disc (give or take). This most recent box set is slated to sell 16k copies and it spans 87 through 91. The last box set will one day sell 15k copies. Dave's Picks is easily selling 20k copies and if they have to string us along with the occasional kind 1972 Normanized nugget, I'd call it pretty savvy marketing.

Either way, the business model is the same. They are spreading out the really good shows and in order to buy them, you have to get a box with a few crème de la crème with a few surrounding shows mixed in. The same with Dave's Picks. If you want the releases, they are going to temper the great with the other releasable shows that many people like and are still in high demand, yet not quite anthems.

That's all good with me. $100 a year plus a box and a vinyl disc or two.

As far as 1972, there are many in the fall that qualify as stupendous 5 star shows. My wish list is an October Fox Theatre box followed one week later by the rest of the August BCT shows in a box save the rest as tent poles to the Dave's Picks series. Vault crack, I know.. but hey I guy can dream, right?

I would settle with a 1972 Dave's Picks 32. That would be grand.

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So we started at 12,000 and now we are at 20,000 a year. How do you make it jump to 21,000 or 22,000 for 2020...... Release a well known show to start the subscription process ..It won't be anything with the Allman Brothers either, because the potential as a stand alone release is much higher. 6/14/76 Beacon Theatre is a good example to start 2020 with or a 2/15/73 Dane County... . Hofheinz Pavilion 11/19/72. Something along those lines to make us all crazy. The fourth show for 2019 when you already close to being sold out, while I hope it is a 1972 show ,is more likely to be a one off show that is awesome but not talked about.... Sorry over served... bob t

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No shipping notice. I called Customer Service they said order WAS CANCELLED!!! I check with my bank the full amount was withdrawn from my account on 8/5. Customer service said I was never charged and I have to dispute it by emailing a screen shot of my account to them. SOOOO They charged me, I have to prove it to them. Still haven't got my order and now the Blu-Ray appears to be unavailable. I'm beyond upset. Every release is a nightmare with this organization...

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Giants blu-ray box sold out just before reaching mailboxes. Wow.

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That blows. Did you pay by paypal? This is the best way for future payments.

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Wow is right.

Doesn't surprise me that much.. hundreds of thousands of people were at these shows.

Garbage? I think not.

PM MaryE or Email Dr. Rhino. I bet they can get it straightened out. Consider buying the DVD perhaps, that will sell out in short order too at this point, especially once people get their first listens and some decide it in fact kicks ass.

I know I just wrote highly of 1972, and meant it.. but there was something in the water in the some of the later years, especially 89 (and 91). I just got of an 80's bender of sorts and it was remarkably refreshing.

Come on in boys.. the water is fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjWHBHlvAs

Did you receive an email with an order confirmation #?

Just to be safe when I place orders I also save as pdf a copy of the order confirm page.

I just added a Blu-ray Box to my cart and it didn’t say sold out.

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"D&C is a mere thin and fizzy champagne in comparison." Aptly stated!

No Doubt. I told myself I would never waste my time on them unless somebody offered me a free ticket. I'm going for the third time at the Garden in a couple of months. As my cousin said (and this is the same guy who showed up from Buffalo at my front door unannounced on July 7th 1989 with a JFK ticket for me), " there's no way we're going to get rained out of this one". If you recall I went with him to the Camden New Jersey show and got rained out two songs into the second set. I bitched about it here for a couple of posts and then moved on.

I agree, the 72 shows age like fine wine. I was just thinking that there won't be as many fine wine connoisseurs in demand of these shows in another five years. Doesn't mean the wines getting any worse, just means the demand for it getting less. I hope I'm right and that Pinkus and Lemieux are thinking along those lines, only because I'm selfish and I want them released as soon.

I've been enjoying the live stuff from January of 69 that was released with the anniversary edition of Aoxomoxoa. Clementine, Alligator, New Potato Caboose. There are many factors of course, but the difference in sounds from eta to era Thai in so largely to Jerry's guitar and rig. I absolutely love the Gibson SG. All the great players were using it in 69 & 70: Garcia, Townshend, Mick Taylor, Hendrix.....and later Angus Young. They're the guys I'm most familiar with, I'm sure they were other greats who used it. I was at a store called Woodstock, coincidentally on the anniversary back in August. They had a band playing on the front lawn, and the guitar player was using none other than the classic Gibson SG. I was ten feet from him and took several pictures, as I've never been that close to one that wasn't behind glass.

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I knew that comment would come back and bite me.

Don't get me wrong, I love what D&C are doing and really enjoy seeing them. They are on to something.. but 72 has some of the better moments the band ever did. I meant this as more praise for 72 than a detraction for what's going on now.

Besides.. I like champagne, just not as much as a good vintage Bordeaux or Burgundy.

If that makes sense. I do have a strong respect for what the boys are doing now and am so appreciative and grateful they are still out there doing it. Wish ticket prices were a bit lower, I like to be in the pit.

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GD72 is the Sun
D&C is Pluto

part of the same system, each with its charms

GD72 is the POWERHOUSE
D&C is interesting

only 8 years old in 72, so I didn't attend shows that year
55 years old at 1st D&C show this past June. It was nice.

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Blu Ray Limited Edition # 590 of !0,000. Looks great, Playing the 87 concert right now.

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when I got home today, and it is very nice. What a nice little package, all box sets should be this size. Glad I did not not order. Can't wait to dive into this baby, 91 is one of my favorite years and with Bruce, that makes it a seven man band. gimme, gimme, gimme, slobber>drool. Got the entire weekend to relish this beauty, ahhhhh, I wonder what the poor people are doing this fine day. I think I will sit back and crack a cold one and roll up a big fatty and enjoy this flashback. To compare D&C to the Grateful Dead is just.....wrong. After I listen to this a few times, I will report my findings.

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I love these buy n forget, no stress Grateful Dead gems that are announced with a faint knock by U.P.S. Ground. If my music was on I may have missed the single knock or was it the sound of the 12x8x3.5 box hitting the ground and bottom of door. I was one of the "No Tracking Numbers" recieved this time too. After a brief review of the contents I must say, if all the disc play glitch-free "This box may be the most UserFriendly offered to us yet".

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258 still available as of a couple minutes ago

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I enjoyed your post, no hauntings here. Upon review of what I wrote, I probably didn't express my sentiment too clearly. I was conjecturing that the popularity of Dead & Co was helping overall Vault recording sales, including the vintage 1972.

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