GIANTS STADIUM 1987, 1989, 1991 BOXED SET

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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August 10, 2019 - 9:27pm

#1531

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Unfortunately.....

....there have been no official shows released that I attended. And the count is 50+. Oh well. One day. Attended every Vegas show. One day.
Got a couple of Phish show's though.
August 10, 2019 - 7:56pm

#1532

bob t

Joined:
November 21, 2007

Today Sirius noon show was 6/16/85.... Greek Theatre

Had this show since summer of 86. Got in the car when Samson was starting... Listening to right now, Love the Scarlet>Fire!!!!
August 10, 2019 - 6:46pm

#1533

Mr. Ones

Joined:
July 25, 2017

Shows Seen, Shows Liked

I only saw the Dead between 1980-1988. I would love it if they released one of those shows one day, but I don't lie awake at night thinking about it.
I started listening to the Dead in 1974, and as a result (I think), I only really liked live stuff from '68-'73. I started out only buying Dick's Picks from this era. Road Trips also. And boxed sets too.
However, when 30 trips came out, I only really wanted the first 10 shows from the box. I started ebaying them right on the day they were released. After acquiring the first 10 shows, I then picked up the '76 & '77 shows. Then I found the box (minus cds) for just about $100.00. Then I just kept looking at set lists, and wanting to try another and another. The 1984 show was the biggest surprise to me, a fantastic show. Eventually there were 5 shows I would NEVER buy. Funny thing but I now have all 30 shows!!
I payed WAY more a la carte than I would have the box, but don't think I could have kept both the box and the bill a secret. Also, by getting shows a little at a time, I had much more time to enjoy each one.
I learned that there were shows from ALL eras that I could enjoy, even though '66-'74 still get the most replays. I am only missing 4 boxes ('78, both '90's sets, and the 5 show '77 box). The only one I regret missing was the 5 show '77 box. I am only going to pick up the stand alone release from this new set, but that's enough to satisfy me.
It's ok to pass on certain releases (obviously), but we don't have to call people who DO buy them stupid (or something worse).
I truly enjoy having the option to listen to any version of the band, and I think it's cool that I have at least one show from every year.
I very much enjoy these (almost philosophical) discussions on eras, what we like, and why we like it. Keep it coming!!
August 10, 2019 - 5:22pm

#1534

mcgrupp216

Joined:
November 1, 2017

Chapell Hill ‘93

Love those shows, Alvarhanso. Love a lot of those Sp93 shows, for that matter. That Rosemont run is honestly among my favorite shows in the entire catalogue. ‘93 easily the most underrated year. Actually listening to 3/17 right now, really good, too!
August 10, 2019 - 2:22pm

#1535

CaseyJanes

Joined:
November 6, 2017

A warning for friends...take heed!

Beware of the Wolf
Appearing quite Dire
He collects his dues
While we sing
Round the fire
Wearing sheep’s clothing
Got two eyes don’t see
I was bitten this week
Not one time but three

You internet art peddler
Please don’t murder me
And don’t steal from me either
I trusted you see
But you dealt that deal anyways
Shame on you
Now shame on me
August 10, 2019 - 11:14am

#1536

alvarhanso

Joined:
January 16, 2014

Era preferences

I'm one of the younger post-Jerry busriders, so don't really have too much homer investment, as I didn't attend any shows, though it could be homerism that makes me want a Greensboro box set. They played the Coliseum 7 times I think from 1980-91, and some good shows. Like this Giants box set, Greensboro had a great Dark Star with Bruce in the mix for April Fool's Day no less. I also wouldn't mind at all if 3/24/93 Dean Smith Center in Chapel Hill were to be released as a Dave's with filler from the next night. Or even if 4/12/78 at Cameron Indoor at Duke were part of the returned Bettys. I've seen the black and white video of that one quite a bit, and that's a high energy show. But I'm more about great sounding shows that have really top notch jamming. I agree the batting average is very good, certainly higher than Ty Cobb's .367, and the only deviants from the norm are somebody else's holy grail, so it balances out. There are a LOT of Dick's Picks and Download Series shows I don't listen to, so an occasional bump isn't bad at all. Just one less thing in an ever expanding rotation of great music. In the Download Series I even found that there are 1972 shows I don't like. That Seattle one from 7/21 just isn't my cup of meat.

I'm going to get this box, and I imagine I'll enjoy it quite thoroughly. Though how many times I'll listen to it is hard to say. I'm not even diving into the PNW Box as much as I thought I would. Everybody and his brother had 5/19/74 as a top, top show, and it has its moments, but it doesn't blow me away as much as 5/17 or 6/22/73. But I also don't really have the time to re-check that analysis. They've released so much excellent stuff that I've ignored most of Europe '72 Complete in the last 5 years or so. I wish we all had Dick Latvala's schedule for listening to Dead at exceedingly high volumes, but alas.
August 10, 2019 - 10:56am

#1537

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Last few listens

Living room:
12-3-79 (3 times since receiving)
12-9-81
8-7-82
7-31-82 set2 (playing now)

Boise 83 up next.
Thought that I’d listen to some of the most maligned releases.
I listen to all eras and can accept if 1 out of 4 DaP’s is from a cassette master.

It’s possible for me to listen to these shows in the living room this week because I balanced it with the several hours I spent listening in the car this week.
2-13-70
2-14-70
5-2-70

Hmmmmm.....how about a Plangentized “Fillmore February 1970 - East Meets West” Box? Opens up like a briefcase with Fillmore West on the the left and Fillmore East on the right.
I’ll buy it.

I listen to 1965-95 and buy all the complete, or nearly complete, show releases. I didn’t subscribe to RT at first because I didn’t want partial shows or compilations, but did buy the complete shows and eventually everything except 79 compilation and Cal Expo. I missed out on a few bonus discs for not subscribing.
Missed out on FW 69, I think it sold out before I saw the email. Didn’t have internet in my apartment at that time. I did get copies and now have 27 and 28 on vinyl (which have been Plangentized).
Missed out on the 72 steamer trunk because I hesitated (had bought a house a year earlier and was putting money into the house) and it was gone. I then paid the same amount for the AME. Learned a lesson there.

The only released show that I was at is 7-17-89 (and it’s missing the end of the first set).
I don’t need the shows I was at to be released, except for Tinley Park 90 (Brent’s last) on audio/video, since I already have copies of many of the shows. What’s missing are SBD copies of 6-27,28-95. Only AUD copies exist, don’t know why the SBDs aren’t in circulation, it’s not like these shows will ever see commercial release.

Glad to be getting the Giants Box.
Keep the releases coming and Plangentize all the good sounding reels.
Also, are there 90’s DAT or PCM masters that are worthy of release? I would like to hear what one of those sounds like after getting Normanized.
August 10, 2019 - 10:00am

#1538

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

William Tell has aimed his bow...

Hhhmmmm? Interesting stuff gentlemen?
If the recent wave of opinions here are any indication of just how diverse, and unfortunately divisive, this group is, Im not sure you could easily categorize so neatly? I think you could probably find a statistcal significance in a few groups with some similar traits i.e.,
Early years show goers who prefer to listen to early years
“ “ “ “ who listen to all years
“ “ “ “ who prefer later years
Later year show goers who prefer early years
“ “ “ “ who listen to all years
“ “ “ “ who prefer later years
Etc, etc....

But I guess Daverock’s question was how much influence being at a released show is?
I would assume that most would at least be interested in a RELEASED show if they were at it....that doesn’t mean that all would by it. Maybe they didn’t like the show, or had a bad experience? Or obviously some just don’t like to listen to certain eras. Some perhaps only have so much listening time so tend to stick with thier favorites.
Also, as we’ve discussed here before how suspect our memories are and how much the experience can sometimes skew our view so much that we’re surprised years later when we finally hear a recording of said show, for good, or for ill.
Personally, for a long time, I had gotten to the place many are at where I felt “I have enough Dead, I’ll never listen to it all” etc, which of course I’m having to live with now as I missed out on much, and have spent great sums trying to make up for it. Fortunately, their are some extremely kind folks here who have helped with that!!! But...
My criteria then was;
1) was I at the show? (I still would like to have some kind of copy of every show I was fortunate to be at, but I sure as hell don’t expect most to be “released”)
2) and/or if it was “a must have” particularly if it was from one of my favorite years, and that was it, otherwise I would not buy it. IDIOT!
I passed on E72 partly because of cost at the time, but I know if it was something that I was at or really wanted I would have found a way. But being the dipshit that I am, I was like “the song lists are all the same”.......”I already have Europe 72” IDIOT!! Obviously I hadn’t really caught the Dark Star bug yet and become a full blown junkie! Which is ironic because DS has always been a favorite? I guess just not “the” favorite yet....
Now, I feel like any show is worth at least considering and feel like if it’s an official release than tptb must of thought it worthy enough to produce it. Obviously that hasn't always played out, but I think most would agree that their batting average is pretty good, and official releases usually have enough of the boxes checked to be worthy of release, even if perhaps the contemplator won’t buy it or it’s not in their preference zone.
For me that’s often the 77-78 years. I’ll listen to some, but not often, and there has been so much released, that I won’t usually be up to buy more. But I’ll totally agree and understand why those shows are released and would not begrudge another that is into those years etc. Luckily, my cousin usually does so I can get a copy purely for collection purposes, and given the chance, I’ll listen to ANY dead show at least once!
But for me the fact is If it’s a show I was at it there is definitely I high probability I’ll get it.
I also think it’s nice when they have multiple options, like being able to just get the main 91 show from this box. I’m sure many folks would like the meat and potatoes without having to buy the whole farm. I haven’t been in that situation yet, but I would think that will happen some time?
Anyway, interesting thought? I’d be cool to hear others thoughts?
August 10, 2019 - 9:56am

#1539

boblopes

Joined:
January 13, 2009

LMG - thoughts and prayers to you - may the power of music help

LMG - thoughts and prayers to you - may the power of music help you thru it. Sending positive vibes your way.

I'm psyched they're releasing the only two 48 track shows recorded. I think if they grouped it with the other shows on the same tour, the difference in sound quality would be noticeable. Just like the two 1990 boxes sound different. By including shows from other dates with other lineups it won't be as apparent.

Any word what the Black Friday Vinyl release is as of yet?
August 10, 2019 - 8:14am

#1540

stoltzfus

Joined:
January 13, 2010

Aagh! LMG!

I am sooo sorry to hear that.

I obviously don't know you personally, but we have the grateful connection.

This summer has been a big reminder of mortality on many levels, personal, national, professional, and virtual.

Stay strong, my brother. We care. Listen to the music play, and we will, too.

John Perry Barlow

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

69-Keithfan

I am also listening to early 1969 - 3/1/69 and 3/2/69-pure gold.

I agree that the mighty SG was something to hear, and that there are many amazing players, as you say. My favourite from the late 60s is John Cipollina - the tone he got on the first album and Happy Trails is wondrous to behold. In the 70's Tony Iommi with Black Sabbath marmalized England with one, closely followed by Man, The Groundhogs, Uriah Heep and many more. No wonder my hearing isn't what it was! Neck like a telegraph pole. The SG, not me.

I saw that a user on the r/gratefuldead sub-reddit....

....got his box today. Looks pretty nice.
edit. didn't read down. looks like they're already arriving.

K-Fan - The real test

>> there won't be as many fine wine connoisseurs in demand of these shows in another five years.

I know what you mean about the thought that those that attended these shows are dying off, I can have the same one.

But isn't the real test of the greatness of the band is how long after the music will be remembered. I like to think getting these limited recordings will someday come back as VERY desirable things to have, like owning old original blues recordings. Something in 50 years someone will hold and be transported by the sound. If they're anything like every other collected thing, half or more will be lost to the ravages of time. Maybe the reason I buy all the vinyl shit (will certainly be rarer than the cd's), is to have a piece of that history. Only our grandchildren will know if the sound lives down the road.

Digital Download Incomplete and in Incorrect Sample Rate

I ordered the 192/24 FLAC download version on 1 August 2019 and received an email this morning to download it. The link is only for the 9 July 1989 show and it's at the wrong sample rate (44,100). I haven't checked the bit depth yet but that's probably screwed up as well. I had similar issues with the RFK download too but at least I received the whole product. Anyone else experience this as well?

'72 is the dose that hooks you...

Or at least hooked me. I was born in the '80s and never got to see the Dead. I picked up a copy of Live/Dead in the late '90s and absolutely loved it. I listened over and over, but was never really hooked. Until I heard my first show from '72. Since then, I've consumed all the Dead I can find.

'72 did for me what D&C is doing for others. And I suspect I won't be the only one.

Dennis

How about us beer connoisseurs.

Touchdown in Baltimore

Received #585 of 10000 today in Baltimore. I ordered two of them. One came today, the other is coming Monday. I guess they’re getting their act together. Very nice job on the box design and packaging.

I also ordered the digital download. That is a problem so far. The download only contained one 1989 show. At least customer service already knew about the problem when I called.

I think so Dennis

I think rock and the Dead will live on. While my kids are no strangers to Taylor Swift and current trendy music, they don't listen to it around the house. One daughter (13 yrs) goes to sleep to either Yes or the Beatles, and the other (9 yrs) to Phil era Genesis or The Who.

The Grateful Dead, in my mind, is a different beast that will live on with a different appeal: varied setlists, improvizational performances of the same songs, regular influx of cover tunes and originals, and the BIG chance (if chance it was) - they recorded it all. That floors me. With the exception of that period when Bear was in jail in the 2nd half of '70, they just always had the wherewithal to make sure someone was hitting that record button. And it wasn't because they knew it would amount to a revenue stream one day, I've read that much. Others here I'm sure are more knowledgeable, but I've read that they used the tapes periodically for self evaluation of their performances (or to give to new keyboard players so they could get up to speed on the songs; but my boy Keith said screw that, just sit me down for a couple rehearsals, as he shoved them under the bed of his parents' houseboat - enjoy your Dick's Picks 35). But while that practicality was in play, I think there was a bit of providence in motion too. Something gently gnawed at these guys, I think, to preseve as much of it all as they could, and not for monetary reasons.

Or maybe they were a bunch of packrats. I was cleaning out my garage the other day and found a half dozen cassette tape players, including the yellow Sony Sports Walkman with reverse play functionality, so you didn't have to flip the tape. Mine always sounded better going forward. And all of those Maxell XLII-Ses. I was such an audiophile I refused to record over them when I wanted to get a new LP down on tape (on the first play of course, and only after using some D4 Discwasher on the vinyl). Had to be a brand new tape. And God help anyone who slammed a door during the process.

Great Giants Stadium Shows

I was pretty excited for this set since being from NJ I saw a couple of these Giants Stadium shows. Playing the 87 show now (first time ever a release showed up on release date for me) and it sounds great- order a copy before its gone. It was a great scene at the huge shows with all the thousand of heads there! Dead were the last band I saw at Giants stadium. Now its Metlife and the Stones were incredible there on recent tour. Great package and good to have a set of dead from my younger years. My first show was 85 so these bring back some nostalgic memories from back then. And the black sneaks in the pics, haha, I had them. Took my wife a couple of years to get me to switch back to white sneaks. still wearing Vans to this day though.

2312 landed in Plano

Now to rip it. (rip it good)

surprise,surprise...

Giants box has arrived. Now that was fast.
Ripping it now...
:O)

Giants Box

I got mine and you (hopefully) got yours!! 😁

Only 7 Songs into 7/9/89, and...

YOWZA!

Jerry...man, what can I say? How about another YOWZA!

Kind of a short first set, but high quality performances throughout.

Those of you who refuse to listen to shows post 1978 or so....sadly, you're missing out on some epic stuff here. Just sayin'.

These multi-tracks sound amazing. Tip o' the cap to Messrs. Glasser and Norman (and Cutler for recording 'em in the first place). And Lemieux, of course! And Pinkus and the Rhino team, et al.

edit: OK. Thanks Jerry, Ron, Phil, Bobby, Billy, Mickey, Tom, Brent, Keith, Donna Jean, Vince, Bruce. And Ned.

And my Dad, 'cause he's a great guy - 98 1/2 years young and still going strong, still the smartest guy in the room!

And my brother, who took me to my first official show. It's all your fault!!

The Box is here...

... and it's AWESOME! Obviously, I've yet to listen to it all - only disc one of 87, but the sound is incredible! Their sound in the late 80s-90s was so different than the 70s, even the early 80s. This band took every advantage of the advancement of sound tech, from their beginning, so it's no wonder that their twilight years sound so lush and layered. Many will argue that *this* sound is why they prefer the younger, leaner Dead, but I was sold on this box by the time Jer rips his first solo on Hell ina Bucket. Also, the set itself is gorgeous! Very happy #5thousand something landed in Baltimore, (saw another Bmore boy got it today too!) Looking forward to digging in deep this weekend! Hope all that ordered it get it soon, and those that didn't, i'd say pull the trigger if yer able.
It's a happy day in DeadLand

Peace

Skunked Again!!!

So I'm ripping this beast in and looking thru the book. Once again, a shitload of pictures in this box and I'm NOT in one! How can that be? I know I recognized several people, that I'm 100% sure I was standing next to. That girl with the hula hoop,,, I'm sure she hit me several times with the damn thing. I can only assume I left for a few to get a cold one. My bad luck :-(

Shakedown sounds nice.

Box in the house

And the Box box doesn’t really give away the contents unless you are real close.

Will watch the BluRay tomorrow night.

Spinning 87 CD1 and the sound is grate.
I like the ‘Take A Step Back’ Jam, they could have gone somewhere fun with that.

Stupid reCRAPTCHA

It thinks that a motorcycle is a car.

I got a shipping notice but…

I got a shipping notice but when I go to my order to get tracking nothing comes up. Has anyone else had this happen to them? I'm confident my set will make it, just curious as to when.
Thanks.

Tracking

Sign up for a UPS My Choice account and UPS will email you when they have a tracking number for your address. You can then monitor progress of the package with the app.
UPS will also email you when it’s delivered.

Thanks!

I am a UPS Choice member...I didn't think to do that. I'm due on Monday by 3:15. I appreciate your help.

😢/😁

Bummer, no box in sight for this lil buckeroo, siiiiggghhhh.......probably a good thing, since I have so much work I should do (hey, wtf, cut me some slack, I’m trying to polish a turd here!)....
This song pretty well sums it up
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVJQSnmeGzI
BUT!!! Ping “the shnopster”, no not that, scored some of dat der Bells Doudle 2 Heart Ale.......Boo-Yah, thanks Kid!

A Tantrum Narrowly Averted - Twice

Hi All, so I got my shipping notice for my Giants Box a few days ago and just like many you, no tracking number. I was beginning to have a slight meltdown but I regained my senses and checked out the comments. I was relieved to see that I was not alone in this. Then today I tried to use my UPS My Choice to track it to which I encountered an issue. Fearing some type of delay and being at work, I took a walk and a chance. I get all of my packages delivered to work so I went to the mailroom and it was sitting there waiting for me.

Needless to say I began rip it to my computer and I gave it a sample listen. From what I heard it sounds great and each show has some great energy. Of course I haven't listened to all of it thoroughly. I think tonight I will go visual and watch the blue rey of 6/17/91.

Have a great weekend all!

Icecreamconekid RECAPTCHA

And what's the deal with the street lights? Does the pole count?

I could have sworn I ordered the June 17th 1991 show a few weeks ago, but it's not showing up in my orders list now. I'm going to have to go see if it was charged to my card or not. Now I'm disappointed it's not here well everyone else is getting theirs.

Double Two Hearted

Had one last night. Mmmm....
Currently working on an Oberon.

Hopslam comes out in January.
I think you’ll like that quite a bit Oro.

KF

Some days it counts, some days it doesn’t.

But at least I got palm trees the other day.
That was something new.

So, based on past experience,
A moped is a motorcycle.
A motorcycle is a car.
A walk signal is a traffic light.

And based on current experience, an empty glass needs more beer....
Oberon...
Mmmmmm........

Blu-ray edition

Now only 8 left, according to this site. Either 250 sold since 10:08 PT this morning, or the numbers are screwy.

Guess I'll go out back and count them personally. Back in a bit.

31 Trips

I believe 250 sold today. I finally pulled the trigger myself today after seeing they were moving fast. Finished Daves 31 on the way to work today after listening to all 31 Daves' over the past two months or so. 31 is a great show. Love Brent and always have. "Go to Heaven" was my first Dead album gifted from my big brother. Listened to it over and over and it was unlike anything I'd ever heard. Althea hooked me young. A few years later the tapestries and tape trading and shows would begin after going away to school. But anyway, damn near all the Daves Picks are phenomenal and consistently excellent shows. Great job and thanks to all involved! (Maybe one near miss for me but no complaints) (Just don't tell razor-totin' Jim.) Anyway, on the way home from work, had nothing to listen to so of course I put on Grateful Dead radio. And behold, it was Dave playing tunes from each show in the box and they sounded fine. I was already in--but today was the day! Glad to be one of the 250 or so and looking forward to the next 31!

Wow - excellent sound quality

Perhaps the only multi-track tapes of the Hornsby/Vince lineup? These sound spectacular! This should’ve come out as a follow up to Without a Net!

Sounds f'n wonderful...

I've got worse copies of the '87 show(w/ Dylan) and of 7-10-89 so I started with 7-9-89 for one of these I hadn't heard yet. Wow.
Only through the first set and it's inspired and well played. Again, the sound is A-f'n-plus.

On a weird note...it also reminded me for the first time in a long while about Adam Katz. RIP. The swamp was not a kind place all the time. Why the boys played there after that shit I could never figure out.
Victim Or The Crime indeed...

Thanks for the reminder JRF

I’ve never been there, and I didn’t know Adam.
But I remember the story from the news, DDN, etc.

ReCRAPTCHA FYI

Buses are now cars.

It's about time Vince/Bruce get their time to shine....

....it's been a slow train coming.
And yes. I can recall Adam Katz's face.

Adam katz

My friend and I were at the show when adam died and we found out 2 days later in the Boston Globe. There were so many people going over that bridge back and forth we thought it was going to fall. The next show that followed had these notices all around the parking lots and telephone poles asking if anyone had been near the bridge and saw anything. Things were kind of not the same afterwards. Sad. P.S. vguy it's weird that you mentioned his face. I always remembered his face, even over 30 or more years have passed.

Dead.net mess up again

I was really pleased to get an email saying my download was ready but it’s only for one show and at 16/44 not 24/192.

Can they get anything right?

Guess I'll go out back and count them personally. Back in a bit.

Who ARE you.

I Guess I Didn't Order 6/17/91

I even went back and found the post here where I mentioned ordering it, but my credit card has no record of it either. I use Vguy-grade supplies, so that might have something to do with it. Just ordered it now, but it says it doesn't ship until 10/2. Well that sucks. Let me know how the Dark Star is.

Giants Stadium download problems

I can't express my disappointment enough when I say that I opted for the 24 bit downloads of the Giants Stadium box set and paid for them the day the shows were released. When the big day arrived and I opened my email with a link to the shows, it only contained a link to one show (6/17/91) and at 16 bit quality.

To top things off, when I emailed customer service on Friday night, I saw that they are not open again until Monday morning and I got a return email saying that it will could take as much as two business days before they will get back to me. Really??? There has to be a better way -- oh yeah that would be LivePhish.com and Nugs.net.

Yours truly,

A very frustrated long-term customer.

LPs?

Anyone have any word on the LP's?

Adam Katz

I still recall his photo (face) after all these years as well...it's haunting.

Enough is enough.

A friend bought the DD and was lucky enough to get the whole box albeit in 16 bit FLAC.

So, at some point, Deadnet will "fix" this and make it right. After giving away 16 bit FLAC downloads all weekend.

This botched customer service thing needs to stop. Someone mentioned it's probably a bunch of old Deadheads getting confused and bumbling around. I doubt it. A chill went down my spine when I saw that this was being released early. You guys aren't ever prepared when product is released on schedule. Like every day is your first day at work.

It's not cute of funny anymore. It's aggravating and rude. For years people have paid for your frankly overpriced product and every year when there is a big release, you manage to screw it up big time. Then go home for the weekend while paying customers hold their asses. If I treated my business this way, I would have no business. Know where my E72 box was shipped to? Africa. I don't live in Africa. I live in Vermont.

I would have Bandcamp.com handle this stuff for you. Not Nugs.net. They are screwing it up too. I have never had one single incident of download or merch problems with them. Not one in ten years. And they far overshadow Nugs as far as available product.

Why not try to have your act together for a change and surprise us all?

Last 5

As I wait to find out when my copy ships, hopefully next week once the weekend has been enjoyed, I’m contemplating a sweepstake as to when it will arrive. Will it be before the Gong boxset due at the end of September or the new Dylan Bootleg Series #15 due on 1st November. i’m Guessing it should be in the days between.

Last 5

I’ve been working my way numerically through DP’s and am up to #17 so far. Other albums I’ve been listening to are:

12 Crass Songs - Jefferey Lewis
Another Stoney Evening. - Crosby & Nash
Live 1 - Coil
Karyobin - Spontaneous Music Ensemble
Wee Tam and the Big Huge - Incredible String Band

Digital Download Blues....

....I did not order it, but if I had, I would also be pretty pissed off. It's inexcusable really. How hard can it be? Optimism is becoming a fleeting trait among dead.net/Rhino customers, and that's sad.
Vguy-grade supplies. Lol. Exactly right. My dispensary never lets me down. I think I finally found a strain that is TOO potent. Never thought I would ever say that....

Trippy Sounds

Stumbled on to a band called Dire Wolves while browsing amazon recently, an album titled Grow Towards the Light. Picked it up 'cause it piqued my curiosity. Spun it a couple of times now and it is some cool trippy stuff. Voices, but no words, trippy instrumental grooves...hits the spot for me.

Blu-ray SOLD OUT \ F@CK

I didn't order , damn it. Bolo24 where did you stash them all ? If one pops up back in stock. I need that cash to feed that jones

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Mine hasn't shipped yet either

Seems like there are a lot of pre-order people who are in the drifting boat of despair with me. I ordered mine on the very first day. The only thing that I can think of is that when it was originally available to order it had a release date of 9/27. That is the date that is on my confirmation order. I don't know when they updated it but the release date at some point later became 9/20. Maybe they only shipped this week to the people who ordered after the release date became 9/20 and those of us who ordered really early will be shipping next week so they will arrive by 9/27. If that theory is correct then if I had ordered 14 days ago I would have received the box yesterday. Or it would be on the way at least. But since I ordered 51 days ago it hasn't even shipped.

These first world problems we must sometimes endure are truly annoying.

Fiends.

Re: Shipping time frames

Skeebe, I ordered on 8/01 as you did, probably within a half hour of when orders started to be taken. There was no shipping notice for me until 6:50 a.m. ET today, and I see that my package is at the nearest UPS facility less than 15 miles from my post office, its ultimate destination. Delivery is scheduled for Monday, 9/23, even though the parcel reached New Jersey at 2:29 a.m. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to the shipping schedules, the important thing is that these long-awaited box sets do reach us, hopefully sooner than later!

Shipping

It seems random. I placed my order before the change in release date and I got a shipping notice pretty late on 9/17 (I think) with an estimated arrival of 9/23. I went with the standard shipping option. In any case, I feel like if it arrives before 9/27 it will be early since I purchased it thinking that 9/27 was the release date.

I also seem to recall that there was a message on the email with the shipping notice that said that they were trying to get them out fast and not to stress if you didn't get a tracking number as it might not be active till a bit after the item was shipped or later.