GIANTS STADIUM 1987, 1989, 1991 BOXED SET

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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October 7, 2019 - 7:28am

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Dennis

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deadvikes

your pm's have what you want
October 7, 2019 - 7:21am

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KeithFan2112

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R.I.P. Mr. Baker

Until I saw the Beware Mr. Baker movie I didn't know a lot about Ginger Baker, only that he was a very highly regarded drummer. I don't even know Cream, except for Sunshine and White Room. I can't believe they did not get more air play on FM radio. Blind Faith is all I own with him.

What impressed me the most about Mr Baker was his confidence in his song arranging capability. He made it sound like he contributed a great deal to the music production, not just drumming.

Love how he scoffed at the mention of Bonham and Moon being great drummers. I would love to have heard his opinion on Peart.

Can't believe he blew all of that reunion tour money. Horses? It's been awhile since I saw the movie. Was he doing a lot of drugs? That'll burn through a million bucks pretty quick.

Well I keep telling myself I need to get into that Allman Brothers Fillmore East box set from 1971 as soon as I get bored of the Dead. That hasn't happened yet and I've had the box set for well over a year. But I really should by the cCeam records in order.

Stoltzie. I started to listen to that 84 show you mentioned last night. It was late and I fell asleep after the first two songs but I really enjoyed the funky keyboard sound. I've never heard that before. You know what I mean.
October 7, 2019 - 7:04am

#413

carlo13

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Dew

Hmm. I listened to dew and Mabey it was a mic. swap at 2nd set break. Jerrys guitar vol. seems ok to me for a quieter song but like jim said ,you would not hear that loud clapping in the mic. so clearly at that distance. Mabey they had an aud. Mic. just for Dew but I doubt it. Kind of nit picking but still strange. The clapping seems quite loud on dew only. When Jerrys noodling on space the aud. Is quite distant. But it still a stellar show!
October 6, 2019 - 7:58pm

#414

JimInMD

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Dew

I did.. spent the last half hour listening to that with headphones.

Mustin 1, JimInMD 0. There is something in that mix.. For my first listen, I just did the first set, then started with the second set the next day. But tonight I started with Bertha (why not) and then into the second set.

I certainly screwed the pooch on that one. I wonder what was up? It was the clapping towards the end that just would not come through on stage.

Sorry.. I was flat out head face planted deep in the snow wrong on that one.

Good catch.
October 6, 2019 - 7:27pm

#415

toe2323

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JIMINMD

Listen to that Dew again. It's clearly a different source vs the first set and the rest of the second set. It's not just a few seconds, but the whole song. This has nothing to do with the crowd reaction.
October 6, 2019 - 7:12pm

#416

JimInMD

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Ha

Well put Senator. Cracked me up.
October 6, 2019 - 7:09pm

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Vguy72

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Morning Dew....

....the boyz could place that particular song anywhere, even in a Day Job->Dew->Childhoods End, and I would be appreciative.
October 6, 2019 - 7:01pm

#418

JimInMD

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Re: '87 Morning Dew, Mustin and General Musings

I don't think there is any matrix action on the '87 Morning Dew, but I could be wrong.

...but if it were a matrix, it would be part soundboard, part aud.. so why mix in audience? They often do this right before and after aud patches to lessen the impact before we go full-bore into aud territory, but this does not seem to be the case here.

I think it's more likely that the crowd, being in New York, went ape shit simply because they opened the second set with Morning Dew, which was a rarity as a set opener by '87. So if the crowd goes absolutely ape shit, the crowd noise will come through the vocal mics.. and if it's really loud and well recorded.. for a few brief seconds it sounds like an audience recording.

That's my take.

As for where Jerry's guitar sounds in the mix, perhaps it was just the performance. On occasion they opened shows with MDew, and opened the second set with MDew, but I always thought the song was more powerful when used late in the second set, as a ballad crescendo-meltdown song rather than as a cold opener. I guess what I am trying to say is I noticed the same thing but had different thoughts as to the reasoning. As a set opener, they seemed to have a more difficult time finding their groove with this tune compared to when it came later in the set after they were warmed up, and often on fire..

As always, I reserve the right to be absolutely, cold-opener wrong. It's pretty subjective territory, but that's my take. Perhaps I should listen to it again to be sure.

Chalk it up to 70k New Yorkers, perhaps more than few just beginning to peak, flipping out and losing their shit simply because the second set opened with Morning Dew and Jerry and the boys being less nimble then when this song appears later in the set.
October 6, 2019 - 6:11pm

#419

toe2323

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MUSTIN321

Yep! I noticed the same thing on Dew and commented on it in the Giants boxset thread on the phish.net forum. 87 first set sounds fantastic and then that Dew to start the 2nd set is noticeably different and sounds like either an audience or matrix. Things go back to the board as Playin starts and gets better as that song goes along. Who knows. Maybe there were issues on the master reels for Dew and they had to use a different source.

Only other minor mixing complaint for me is vocals are mixed a little low on 6-16-91 (havent listened to 6-17 yet), but that's a very minor quibble.

Otherwise thought the shows sounded awesome with a really great mix!

Thought the shows themselves were excellent overall! Not a clunker in the set and the energy is awesome in all of them! 6-16 is a fantastic show start to finish which I was not expecting. Oh, and how about that Black Peter with the extended jam at the end? Phenomenal Black Peter!

Awesome boxset though and surpassed my expectations a bit. :D
October 6, 2019 - 5:53pm

#420

stoltzfus

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Setlists as in...

dont look at them ahead of time. Many pleasant surprises.

If 5 8 84 was your "first time", vguy, then you got a goooooood one

John Perry Barlow

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

69-Keithfan

I am also listening to early 1969 - 3/1/69 and 3/2/69-pure gold.

I agree that the mighty SG was something to hear, and that there are many amazing players, as you say. My favourite from the late 60s is John Cipollina - the tone he got on the first album and Happy Trails is wondrous to behold. In the 70's Tony Iommi with Black Sabbath marmalized England with one, closely followed by Man, The Groundhogs, Uriah Heep and many more. No wonder my hearing isn't what it was! Neck like a telegraph pole. The SG, not me.

I saw that a user on the r/gratefuldead sub-reddit....

....got his box today. Looks pretty nice.
edit. didn't read down. looks like they're already arriving.

K-Fan - The real test

>> there won't be as many fine wine connoisseurs in demand of these shows in another five years.

I know what you mean about the thought that those that attended these shows are dying off, I can have the same one.

But isn't the real test of the greatness of the band is how long after the music will be remembered. I like to think getting these limited recordings will someday come back as VERY desirable things to have, like owning old original blues recordings. Something in 50 years someone will hold and be transported by the sound. If they're anything like every other collected thing, half or more will be lost to the ravages of time. Maybe the reason I buy all the vinyl shit (will certainly be rarer than the cd's), is to have a piece of that history. Only our grandchildren will know if the sound lives down the road.

Digital Download Incomplete and in Incorrect Sample Rate

I ordered the 192/24 FLAC download version on 1 August 2019 and received an email this morning to download it. The link is only for the 9 July 1989 show and it's at the wrong sample rate (44,100). I haven't checked the bit depth yet but that's probably screwed up as well. I had similar issues with the RFK download too but at least I received the whole product. Anyone else experience this as well?

'72 is the dose that hooks you...

Or at least hooked me. I was born in the '80s and never got to see the Dead. I picked up a copy of Live/Dead in the late '90s and absolutely loved it. I listened over and over, but was never really hooked. Until I heard my first show from '72. Since then, I've consumed all the Dead I can find.

'72 did for me what D&C is doing for others. And I suspect I won't be the only one.

Dennis

How about us beer connoisseurs.

Touchdown in Baltimore

Received #585 of 10000 today in Baltimore. I ordered two of them. One came today, the other is coming Monday. I guess they’re getting their act together. Very nice job on the box design and packaging.

I also ordered the digital download. That is a problem so far. The download only contained one 1989 show. At least customer service already knew about the problem when I called.

I think so Dennis

I think rock and the Dead will live on. While my kids are no strangers to Taylor Swift and current trendy music, they don't listen to it around the house. One daughter (13 yrs) goes to sleep to either Yes or the Beatles, and the other (9 yrs) to Phil era Genesis or The Who.

The Grateful Dead, in my mind, is a different beast that will live on with a different appeal: varied setlists, improvizational performances of the same songs, regular influx of cover tunes and originals, and the BIG chance (if chance it was) - they recorded it all. That floors me. With the exception of that period when Bear was in jail in the 2nd half of '70, they just always had the wherewithal to make sure someone was hitting that record button. And it wasn't because they knew it would amount to a revenue stream one day, I've read that much. Others here I'm sure are more knowledgeable, but I've read that they used the tapes periodically for self evaluation of their performances (or to give to new keyboard players so they could get up to speed on the songs; but my boy Keith said screw that, just sit me down for a couple rehearsals, as he shoved them under the bed of his parents' houseboat - enjoy your Dick's Picks 35). But while that practicality was in play, I think there was a bit of providence in motion too. Something gently gnawed at these guys, I think, to preseve as much of it all as they could, and not for monetary reasons.

Or maybe they were a bunch of packrats. I was cleaning out my garage the other day and found a half dozen cassette tape players, including the yellow Sony Sports Walkman with reverse play functionality, so you didn't have to flip the tape. Mine always sounded better going forward. And all of those Maxell XLII-Ses. I was such an audiophile I refused to record over them when I wanted to get a new LP down on tape (on the first play of course, and only after using some D4 Discwasher on the vinyl). Had to be a brand new tape. And God help anyone who slammed a door during the process.

Great Giants Stadium Shows

I was pretty excited for this set since being from NJ I saw a couple of these Giants Stadium shows. Playing the 87 show now (first time ever a release showed up on release date for me) and it sounds great- order a copy before its gone. It was a great scene at the huge shows with all the thousand of heads there! Dead were the last band I saw at Giants stadium. Now its Metlife and the Stones were incredible there on recent tour. Great package and good to have a set of dead from my younger years. My first show was 85 so these bring back some nostalgic memories from back then. And the black sneaks in the pics, haha, I had them. Took my wife a couple of years to get me to switch back to white sneaks. still wearing Vans to this day though.

2312 landed in Plano

Now to rip it. (rip it good)

surprise,surprise...

Giants box has arrived. Now that was fast.
Ripping it now...
:O)

Giants Box

I got mine and you (hopefully) got yours!! 😁

Only 7 Songs into 7/9/89, and...

YOWZA!

Jerry...man, what can I say? How about another YOWZA!

Kind of a short first set, but high quality performances throughout.

Those of you who refuse to listen to shows post 1978 or so....sadly, you're missing out on some epic stuff here. Just sayin'.

These multi-tracks sound amazing. Tip o' the cap to Messrs. Glasser and Norman (and Cutler for recording 'em in the first place). And Lemieux, of course! And Pinkus and the Rhino team, et al.

edit: OK. Thanks Jerry, Ron, Phil, Bobby, Billy, Mickey, Tom, Brent, Keith, Donna Jean, Vince, Bruce. And Ned.

And my Dad, 'cause he's a great guy - 98 1/2 years young and still going strong, still the smartest guy in the room!

And my brother, who took me to my first official show. It's all your fault!!

The Box is here...

... and it's AWESOME! Obviously, I've yet to listen to it all - only disc one of 87, but the sound is incredible! Their sound in the late 80s-90s was so different than the 70s, even the early 80s. This band took every advantage of the advancement of sound tech, from their beginning, so it's no wonder that their twilight years sound so lush and layered. Many will argue that *this* sound is why they prefer the younger, leaner Dead, but I was sold on this box by the time Jer rips his first solo on Hell ina Bucket. Also, the set itself is gorgeous! Very happy #5thousand something landed in Baltimore, (saw another Bmore boy got it today too!) Looking forward to digging in deep this weekend! Hope all that ordered it get it soon, and those that didn't, i'd say pull the trigger if yer able.
It's a happy day in DeadLand

Peace

Skunked Again!!!

So I'm ripping this beast in and looking thru the book. Once again, a shitload of pictures in this box and I'm NOT in one! How can that be? I know I recognized several people, that I'm 100% sure I was standing next to. That girl with the hula hoop,,, I'm sure she hit me several times with the damn thing. I can only assume I left for a few to get a cold one. My bad luck :-(

Shakedown sounds nice.

Box in the house

And the Box box doesn’t really give away the contents unless you are real close.

Will watch the BluRay tomorrow night.

Spinning 87 CD1 and the sound is grate.
I like the ‘Take A Step Back’ Jam, they could have gone somewhere fun with that.

Stupid reCRAPTCHA

It thinks that a motorcycle is a car.

I got a shipping notice but…

I got a shipping notice but when I go to my order to get tracking nothing comes up. Has anyone else had this happen to them? I'm confident my set will make it, just curious as to when.
Thanks.

Tracking

Sign up for a UPS My Choice account and UPS will email you when they have a tracking number for your address. You can then monitor progress of the package with the app.
UPS will also email you when it’s delivered.

Thanks!

I am a UPS Choice member...I didn't think to do that. I'm due on Monday by 3:15. I appreciate your help.

😢/😁

Bummer, no box in sight for this lil buckeroo, siiiiggghhhh.......probably a good thing, since I have so much work I should do (hey, wtf, cut me some slack, I’m trying to polish a turd here!)....
This song pretty well sums it up
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVJQSnmeGzI
BUT!!! Ping “the shnopster”, no not that, scored some of dat der Bells Doudle 2 Heart Ale.......Boo-Yah, thanks Kid!

A Tantrum Narrowly Averted - Twice

Hi All, so I got my shipping notice for my Giants Box a few days ago and just like many you, no tracking number. I was beginning to have a slight meltdown but I regained my senses and checked out the comments. I was relieved to see that I was not alone in this. Then today I tried to use my UPS My Choice to track it to which I encountered an issue. Fearing some type of delay and being at work, I took a walk and a chance. I get all of my packages delivered to work so I went to the mailroom and it was sitting there waiting for me.

Needless to say I began rip it to my computer and I gave it a sample listen. From what I heard it sounds great and each show has some great energy. Of course I haven't listened to all of it thoroughly. I think tonight I will go visual and watch the blue rey of 6/17/91.

Have a great weekend all!

Icecreamconekid RECAPTCHA

And what's the deal with the street lights? Does the pole count?

I could have sworn I ordered the June 17th 1991 show a few weeks ago, but it's not showing up in my orders list now. I'm going to have to go see if it was charged to my card or not. Now I'm disappointed it's not here well everyone else is getting theirs.

Double Two Hearted

Had one last night. Mmmm....
Currently working on an Oberon.

Hopslam comes out in January.
I think you’ll like that quite a bit Oro.

KF

Some days it counts, some days it doesn’t.

But at least I got palm trees the other day.
That was something new.

So, based on past experience,
A moped is a motorcycle.
A motorcycle is a car.
A walk signal is a traffic light.

And based on current experience, an empty glass needs more beer....
Oberon...
Mmmmmm........

Blu-ray edition

Now only 8 left, according to this site. Either 250 sold since 10:08 PT this morning, or the numbers are screwy.

Guess I'll go out back and count them personally. Back in a bit.

31 Trips

I believe 250 sold today. I finally pulled the trigger myself today after seeing they were moving fast. Finished Daves 31 on the way to work today after listening to all 31 Daves' over the past two months or so. 31 is a great show. Love Brent and always have. "Go to Heaven" was my first Dead album gifted from my big brother. Listened to it over and over and it was unlike anything I'd ever heard. Althea hooked me young. A few years later the tapestries and tape trading and shows would begin after going away to school. But anyway, damn near all the Daves Picks are phenomenal and consistently excellent shows. Great job and thanks to all involved! (Maybe one near miss for me but no complaints) (Just don't tell razor-totin' Jim.) Anyway, on the way home from work, had nothing to listen to so of course I put on Grateful Dead radio. And behold, it was Dave playing tunes from each show in the box and they sounded fine. I was already in--but today was the day! Glad to be one of the 250 or so and looking forward to the next 31!

Wow - excellent sound quality

Perhaps the only multi-track tapes of the Hornsby/Vince lineup? These sound spectacular! This should’ve come out as a follow up to Without a Net!

Sounds f'n wonderful...

I've got worse copies of the '87 show(w/ Dylan) and of 7-10-89 so I started with 7-9-89 for one of these I hadn't heard yet. Wow.
Only through the first set and it's inspired and well played. Again, the sound is A-f'n-plus.

On a weird note...it also reminded me for the first time in a long while about Adam Katz. RIP. The swamp was not a kind place all the time. Why the boys played there after that shit I could never figure out.
Victim Or The Crime indeed...

Thanks for the reminder JRF

I’ve never been there, and I didn’t know Adam.
But I remember the story from the news, DDN, etc.

ReCRAPTCHA FYI

Buses are now cars.

It's about time Vince/Bruce get their time to shine....

....it's been a slow train coming.
And yes. I can recall Adam Katz's face.

Adam katz

My friend and I were at the show when adam died and we found out 2 days later in the Boston Globe. There were so many people going over that bridge back and forth we thought it was going to fall. The next show that followed had these notices all around the parking lots and telephone poles asking if anyone had been near the bridge and saw anything. Things were kind of not the same afterwards. Sad. P.S. vguy it's weird that you mentioned his face. I always remembered his face, even over 30 or more years have passed.

Dead.net mess up again

I was really pleased to get an email saying my download was ready but it’s only for one show and at 16/44 not 24/192.

Can they get anything right?

Guess I'll go out back and count them personally. Back in a bit.

Who ARE you.

I Guess I Didn't Order 6/17/91

I even went back and found the post here where I mentioned ordering it, but my credit card has no record of it either. I use Vguy-grade supplies, so that might have something to do with it. Just ordered it now, but it says it doesn't ship until 10/2. Well that sucks. Let me know how the Dark Star is.

Giants Stadium download problems

I can't express my disappointment enough when I say that I opted for the 24 bit downloads of the Giants Stadium box set and paid for them the day the shows were released. When the big day arrived and I opened my email with a link to the shows, it only contained a link to one show (6/17/91) and at 16 bit quality.

To top things off, when I emailed customer service on Friday night, I saw that they are not open again until Monday morning and I got a return email saying that it will could take as much as two business days before they will get back to me. Really??? There has to be a better way -- oh yeah that would be LivePhish.com and Nugs.net.

Yours truly,

A very frustrated long-term customer.

LPs?

Anyone have any word on the LP's?

Adam Katz

I still recall his photo (face) after all these years as well...it's haunting.

Enough is enough.

A friend bought the DD and was lucky enough to get the whole box albeit in 16 bit FLAC.

So, at some point, Deadnet will "fix" this and make it right. After giving away 16 bit FLAC downloads all weekend.

This botched customer service thing needs to stop. Someone mentioned it's probably a bunch of old Deadheads getting confused and bumbling around. I doubt it. A chill went down my spine when I saw that this was being released early. You guys aren't ever prepared when product is released on schedule. Like every day is your first day at work.

It's not cute of funny anymore. It's aggravating and rude. For years people have paid for your frankly overpriced product and every year when there is a big release, you manage to screw it up big time. Then go home for the weekend while paying customers hold their asses. If I treated my business this way, I would have no business. Know where my E72 box was shipped to? Africa. I don't live in Africa. I live in Vermont.

I would have Bandcamp.com handle this stuff for you. Not Nugs.net. They are screwing it up too. I have never had one single incident of download or merch problems with them. Not one in ten years. And they far overshadow Nugs as far as available product.

Why not try to have your act together for a change and surprise us all?

Last 5

As I wait to find out when my copy ships, hopefully next week once the weekend has been enjoyed, I’m contemplating a sweepstake as to when it will arrive. Will it be before the Gong boxset due at the end of September or the new Dylan Bootleg Series #15 due on 1st November. i’m Guessing it should be in the days between.

Last 5

I’ve been working my way numerically through DP’s and am up to #17 so far. Other albums I’ve been listening to are:

12 Crass Songs - Jefferey Lewis
Another Stoney Evening. - Crosby & Nash
Live 1 - Coil
Karyobin - Spontaneous Music Ensemble
Wee Tam and the Big Huge - Incredible String Band

Digital Download Blues....

....I did not order it, but if I had, I would also be pretty pissed off. It's inexcusable really. How hard can it be? Optimism is becoming a fleeting trait among dead.net/Rhino customers, and that's sad.
Vguy-grade supplies. Lol. Exactly right. My dispensary never lets me down. I think I finally found a strain that is TOO potent. Never thought I would ever say that....

Trippy Sounds

Stumbled on to a band called Dire Wolves while browsing amazon recently, an album titled Grow Towards the Light. Picked it up 'cause it piqued my curiosity. Spun it a couple of times now and it is some cool trippy stuff. Voices, but no words, trippy instrumental grooves...hits the spot for me.

Blu-ray SOLD OUT \ F@CK

I didn't order , damn it. Bolo24 where did you stash them all ? If one pops up back in stock. I need that cash to feed that jones

Operator

well could you

help me

place

this call

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxIP2IJDgk

Isn't that

the way

they say it goes

Mine hasn't shipped yet either

Seems like there are a lot of pre-order people who are in the drifting boat of despair with me. I ordered mine on the very first day. The only thing that I can think of is that when it was originally available to order it had a release date of 9/27. That is the date that is on my confirmation order. I don't know when they updated it but the release date at some point later became 9/20. Maybe they only shipped this week to the people who ordered after the release date became 9/20 and those of us who ordered really early will be shipping next week so they will arrive by 9/27. If that theory is correct then if I had ordered 14 days ago I would have received the box yesterday. Or it would be on the way at least. But since I ordered 51 days ago it hasn't even shipped.

These first world problems we must sometimes endure are truly annoying.

Fiends.

Re: Shipping time frames

Skeebe, I ordered on 8/01 as you did, probably within a half hour of when orders started to be taken. There was no shipping notice for me until 6:50 a.m. ET today, and I see that my package is at the nearest UPS facility less than 15 miles from my post office, its ultimate destination. Delivery is scheduled for Monday, 9/23, even though the parcel reached New Jersey at 2:29 a.m. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to the shipping schedules, the important thing is that these long-awaited box sets do reach us, hopefully sooner than later!

Shipping

It seems random. I placed my order before the change in release date and I got a shipping notice pretty late on 9/17 (I think) with an estimated arrival of 9/23. I went with the standard shipping option. In any case, I feel like if it arrives before 9/27 it will be early since I purchased it thinking that 9/27 was the release date.

I also seem to recall that there was a message on the email with the shipping notice that said that they were trying to get them out fast and not to stress if you didn't get a tracking number as it might not be active till a bit after the item was shipped or later.