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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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    Thanks for the tip Bolo, it is an excellent version - though not many I don't enjoy (I have come to really like Bobby singing it the last few years). Anyone should be able to listen to that version on youtube searching "The Dead - Days Between - Shoreline Amphitheatre - 9/19/03".

    I ordered this box and am sure I will enjoy it. I doubt it will get huge replay, simply due to the total number of shows I have now. But I can say that about anything they would release at this point, and I am still likely to buy them all, if only for a listen to each every year or two. I only listen to about two shows a week on average, and with hundreds of shows, well, it is a good thing vs. the alternative of 20 years ago. Not sure how anybody has so much time that they can carp about what is released at this point, but to each their own.

    58 years old. First show Cap Center, Thanksgiving 1978.

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    Content gone as well..

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    Had a great time w/a friend on Thurs. night and remember this 6-17 show well. We missed the beginning of Eyes 3 decades ago, and in my high state I panicked and thought we had missed the WHOLE 1st set for a moment walking in there, all those years ago. I remember saying "Holy crap, what time was showtime? What time is it now? What time was showtime?!", so convinced I was they wouldn't be doing Eyes in the 1st set. After calming down, had a great time. This time, in the theater, I saw it from beginning to end. My only beef was-they completely cut out the LOOONG buildup at the beginning of the 2nd set before Saint of Circumstance, where they were just winding the audience up for 2, 3 minutes before they started. It almost sounded like they were really going to start the second set with a Dark Star, ala 10-16-89 at the Byrne, but sharp ears knew it was more likely Saint. I don't know why they had that missing from the movie in the theater. Hope the 6-17 DVD has it. If you go to watch it on youtube you can see it on anyone's upload of this second set.

    Edit: OK, interestingly enough, youtube has removed one complete show of 6-17 by one Kevin Tobin, just since Thurs. night, because we listened to it online after getting home from the movie. His upload of 6-16 is still in there. It says removed due to a WMG music claim.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewDEWhZpLM

    But there is a new, authorized upload of the Saint 2nd set opener, and listen to it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOCPrg6lDbM

    Now, if you listen to the 6-17 2nd set opener at archive.org, listen to how much was cut out!
    https://archive.org/details/gd91-06-17.sbd.gardner.3591.sbeok.shnf/gd19…

    Track 9, which they label as a "Dark Star" is 2:30, before they start the Saint.

    Please tell me, the DVD that comes with the box will have this in there, Lemieux! I'm sure the CDs do, but don't know why the movie on Thursday didn't.

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    can we get rid of this term it sounds derogatory. we are deadheads just like everyone else.

    ps. bet I can spin circles around ya

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    If you can get your hands on a soundboard of The Dead's performance from 9/19/2003 at Shoreline (the lineup with Joan Osborne and Jimmy Herring), the "Days Between" on that one might just change your life. It's a long one (17:26), but well worth a full listen. Joan's vocals are splendidly emotive, and Herring interprets the lead part perfectly, including a single, climactic note that chills me every time. You'll know it when you hear it, just have a Kleenex handy. That whole show is wonderful.

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    I noticed that as well Marye....I wonder if the blue ray will be the same? I would expect so...but I don’t remember seeing any big shots of Giant Stadium and/or crowd. That being said I was distracted by my own dancing and did not absorb the whole thing visually...figure I’ll have more time for that when the Blu Ray comes out. I will say that my theatre was full but mostly people leaned back in recliners. I might go the local draft house next year if they show it again. I thought AMC could have done a better job. I think the Lion King was louder last week when I saw it.

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    Dave says that the sound quality is amazing, and that it got the Plangent treatment. Woo Hoo!
    Also that they’re pulling tapes out for consideration for the 2020 Box. Woo Hoo!

    He also commented “apparently I get distracted easily” (when recording chats). Funny. That would indicate that he probably does read the commentary on these boards.

    This Box is limited to 10,000 copies. They probably have a pretty good idea what demand will be.

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    what I really liked about the movie
    (among other things of course) was that they shot it in such a way as to make it feel like a small room instead of a huge stadium, which made you feel right there sitting in the movie theater.
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    I have virtually no knowledge of classical music, but from the standpoint of reading notes if that is what they are doing every time it would seem Led Ded is correct, however certainly every artist is going to play that note slightly different than the next. For example on a stringed instrument the artist may hit the string/note slightly harder or bend it slightly different, or on a wind instrument, one player might blow it slightly different than the next, and this is where artistic interpretation can come into play. I would expect that maybe this might be more true for some instruments than others. Violin for example would seem to have a lot of wiggle room in note playing from player to player. Again, I’m no authority on this whatsoever so this could be and probably is total bullshit. The other question is, do they always just read the notes?, and if they don’t is it still considered classical? Maybe more folks would get into classical if there was more improvisation. Who says there can’t be?

    Also loved the noodling thing...I think that says it all!

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    Listen to Glenn Gould's 1955 recording of Bach's Goldberg Variations. Then listen to Rosalyn Tureck's 1999 recording of Bach's Goldberg Variations. Exact same piece note for note. Gould plays it in 40 minutes. Tureck comes in at 90 minutes. Hmmm. How could that be?

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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The box arrived in perfect condition. The book is HUGE!!! The book alone must have cost a few clams. If it had feet it would be a coffee table book. The box itself is bigger then I thought. Great work rhino and dead.net. 1987 disks sound incredible and 91' sounds almost hard to believe it was almost 30 years ago. 91' has to be set lower on the volume knob it's so beautiful. It's so good you want to cry.

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Box #5606 has arrived safe and sound in Northern Utah...everything seems to be in order. Book looks awesome!!...can't wait to dive in!

Nope. Was fired up on Friday morning when I got the email for download. Emailed customer service on Friday. We are going on Tuesday with no response. This is crap.

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I found some stashed out back behind the rusted remains of Kesey's thunder machine. We heard about a gang from Moldova (the Marx Brothers 'Hood) posing as Amish encyclopedia salesmen working the area. A sharp-eyed IHOP waitress across the street we have on our payroll reported something suspicious going down, and the local gendarmes arrived before the thugs absconded with the goods.

Bottom line: they're back in stock. Order now!!

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Has anyone ever received the last number of the release??? Did anyone get 10,000/10,000 of a release... or 20,000/20,000 of a Dave's Picks?? Bob t

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Welp, mine arrived damaged. No damage to the shipping box itself but there is a slice down the top of the spiral book as well as a torn CD booklet for one of the shows, a pin sized indentation on the actual box, annnd another deep scratch on the box. How it happened is beyond me...I reached out to customer service Friday via email and have yet to hear back from them. Inspect your boxes folks!

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Box arrived today and looks pretty cool, won't have a chance to start listening until tomorrow afternoon, but I am stoked. I did have a chance to flip through the book, the pictures really took me right back.

On another note, I would suggest we immediately start crowdfunding some funds to get the IHOP waitress on our payroll as well.

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You guys sound like you're having so much fun. Oh well another day. My June 17th 1991 show will be here before I know right.

What I really came here to babble about : Playing in the Band, Winterland 10/9/72. I love the Veneta Playing in as much as the next Dead Head. And 11/18/72. But ever since the release of that Dave's Picks Berkeley show (which also had a rip-roaring Playing in the Band), I've been really getting into this song 2nd half 72. I'm hearing a lot of them that are up there with Veneta. I'm also thinking they,re better than the E72 performances.

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Safe and sound in Saint Paul, Minnesota . . . (technically the town of Roseville . . . )

Went straight to 6/17/91. Good gawd, the SOUND!!!!

Sweet. Just sweet.

....can't help but smile. I have a new appreciation for Mondays.
Mrs. Vguy even came out an twirled for a minute. She likes that song and it pulled her out of the bedroom. Lol.

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The downloads were supposed to arrive on Friday. Instead of receiving the link to the 192/24 download of the entire box that I ordered, I was sent a link for 44/16 files of 7/9/89 only. I notified customer service on Friday, but have not heard back. Urgh.

Heard from customer service on Tuesday. I'm supposed to get a link to the right files within three business days.

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I'm a big fan of the Box Sets.

Take a look at the two best, FW69 and E72 (three best, I guess you can add Boxzilla). In all cases they offered skinny boxes.. which are really, really good and a good representation of the tours. But the fun is in the deep dive. After all, the GD never played the same show twice and after a few listens we tend to move on for variety. Boxes keep my attention for months/years.

Anyway.. my two cents. Haven't had the chance to rip let alone listen to this one yet.. Honestly, I am still enjoying last years box. Some of the China Riders in particular keep gaining nuance and admiration and I have not met a full Weather Report Suite I did not like.

Bolo has never steered us wrong yet, right? or has he???

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... also dove in last evening for a bit upon receipt of this bad boy box.
As already mentioned, '91 is AMAZING.
I popped the Bluray in and turned it up to '11'.....that Eyes opener...Man oh man. And I've heard it a thousand times; but this is definitely definitely the definitive listen. Definitely Wapner.

It just looks and sounds SO DAMN GOOD.

And on the ride in today I tossed in the 7/9/89 show with that killer Shakedown opener. They mean business! And the follow up Jack Straw moves. Jerry is ripping it up. Looking forward to the forthcoming audio digestion along with everyone else.

Sixtus

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The status of my order on the site is still processing and says it hasn't shipped. No emails. UPS My Choice is completely blank. An yet #7507 arrived safe and sound yesterday in Denver. Turned my frown upside down.

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I pre-ordered on 8/2 (Digital 24 bit). Was sent on one show in wrong format on 9/20. Contact help on 9/21...No response. Spoke to customer service today..They have "Escalated" my case.

This is unacceptable. Get your shit together.

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Should be on the front step when I get home. Now just need to dodge the porch pirates and the boxcutter blues.

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Ok why would you guys format it so you cant put in in your itunes as one album for each show? Its all wrong,set one disk 1 and set 2 disk 3 but disk 2 is all by it self? really bad,and frustrating as hell.I buy all the box sets anmd this one has the worst editing ever !!! I spent alot on this and I expect it to be done right . Get it together guys

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I'll have mine this evening. So excited about this one.

Between my time of seeing the Dead live, from '84 through the end in '95, I've often said here that the period between '87 and '91 was magic. The band was on a late career peak, thanks to their newfound successes and the rapid evolution of technology that gave them a new lease to explore not only new music, but also the old classics. '89 saw them back to stretching out and flexing their improvisational muscle.

Over the years as more of these releases come out, and from virtually every corner of their career, I only find myself wanting to here more..more....MORE. I think I'll absorb this set chronologically, though the video will be hard not to put right in right away.

My pre-review is.....counting the hours this afternoon until this is physically in my hands and that '87 show ready to bounce air molecules into my eardrums at a healthy volume. Gosh, haven't dosed since the '90s. Kind of want to for the vid.

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Dear Dead.net Customer,

We have been advised that there have been issues with the delivery of the Giants Stadium 1987, 1989, 1991 Digital files.

Our digital team is currently fixing this issue and will redeliver your files within the next 3 business days.

You will receive an email from Dead.net with further instructions on how to download your updated files.

Upon completion, you will have the correct number of shows that you ordered, at the correct bit rate.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,

Dead.net Customer Service

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Just saw the news on the Rolling Stone website about Robert Hunter. Another good man gone. RIP

Fuck! RIP Hunter!! So sad to see this. Rest in peace and thanks for all you left us with. It would not have happened with you.

"In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head.
Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

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As for adding to ITunes, I have to agree on that one.. but I don't think Rhino this one is Rhino's fault.

I am not sure how it works.. but if you are absolutely first to get a Box or CD or whatever.. and go to put it into iTunes, the metadata is essentially blank. In that case, you have to manually type all this stuff in. ..and the next person seems to get what those who came before them entered.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Rhino adds metadata to wherever the data repository is all the Metadata that tags songs and CDs when you Rip it.

Yes, Giant pain in the ass (sorry for the pun).

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I received Giants stadium yesterday.

Not long after 7-12-87, I picked up an audience tape of this show that was probably the poorest sounding tape I owned. Not only did it sound like it was coming from an old hand held transistor radio from the 60s but throughout the tape I could hear two guys bitching about the traffic problem getting there and how they planned on leaving. Even with these major tape issues, the music sounded great and it was played often in my car. That cassette is now lost to history.

As I said earlier, when the box arrived yesterday I immediately put on 7-12. WOW!!! The sound, the performance is so wonderful. This show alone was worth the price of admission. They really were brilliant that summer of '87 and this recording is proof positive. I wasn't at this show but I saw them earlier that week in Pittsburgh. The Neville Bros. sat in at the beginning of the second set and with The Banana Boat song>Iko> Women Are Smarter just about blew the top off of the igloo they were playing in. One of those musical moments one never forgets. I'm hoping that one day this show will be released for all to enjoy.

Anyway, thanks Dave, Jeffery and everybody else that puts these labor of loves together every year for us fans. I am very appreciative for what you all must go through to put these beautiful boxes together.

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Well I guess that's three. Didn't think it would be hitting so close to home though. After Ocasek, I was having a water cooler talk with a guy at work, and we were lamenting how our rock heroes of the 60s and 70s are at ages when we might be seeing this with more and more frequency.

If anyone has a favorite lyric from Robert, I would love to know what resonated with everyone. I always liked this one from Uncle John's Band, particularly when Phil can be heard singing harmony (Ladies and Gentlemen is a good example):

"Like the morning sun you come,
and like the wind you go."

Jimbo that's another great one. Brokedown Palace is probably my favorite downtempo song.

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May the four winds blow you safely home!
Our condolences to his peeps, and all the Dead extended family etc.
Truly a huge loss....Arguably one of THE greatest word smiths of all time!

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I am just seeing this terrible news now boys, from your posts. And corroborated elsewhere just to be sure it's all real.

So very sad about Robert Hunter. Holy cow. Wow.
Sad.

At least he and Jer are together again, collaborating once more, on the sweetest tune ever. For ever.

RIP.

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A Lovely View of heaven but I'd rather be with you.

Today I lost a very good friend that I never had the chance to meet.

I think that one is impossible. Like every line is a usable line for something in life. How many different times in your life have you thrown out a Hunter line as the answer to a question or a situation? I believe you could write a short story with just lines from the Hunter catalog.

Lines I use quite often ….

The bottle was dusty, but the liquor was clean.

Though I could caution all, I still might warn a few.

Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own (ok maybe my fave)

First one says she's got my child, but it don't look like me

Steal your face right off your head

You know better but I know him

you decide if was wise

It's a buck dancers choice my friend

Lotta poor man got to walk the line, just to pay his union dues.

Thanks for the lines Bob.

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This is TOTALLY true:

I thought about RH and about his potential passing yesterday. It just came to me, completely out of the blue.

Now today I hear he has departed.

and what is playing on my computer?

"I will fly away" Hank Williams

I will fly oh glory
I will fly away in the mornin'
when I die hallelujah by and by
I will fly away

WOW.

Blessings beyond count to you, RH.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

RIP

:_(((

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Without Robert, there would have been no Grateful Dead. As lovely as those melodies are, and as intoxicating as those rhythms can be, those tunes would not be endlessly endearing without the lyrics of the master poet. We can listen to a Garcia song a million times because of the infinity of Hunter's words.

A few years back, I began a poem to send to Robert on his birthday, in order to let him hear how Grateful I am for his contributions to my favorite music. I never worked up the nerve to send it on ANY of his subsequent birthdays. Dang.

Anyone who sings a tune so sweet is passing by . . .

Robert Hunter, you are amazing.

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Seeing this today finally made me find out what the hell Buck Dancing is.

https://www.ncpedia.org/buck-dancing

You learn something new every day.. so very cool. It's amazing what you learn from the GD.. visited my folks this weekend and watched an hour of the Country Music documentary from Ken Burns with my dad. I knew almost every song from what I learned listening to the Grateful Dead (and Jerry Garcia). It got then point where I was thinking to myself, is there a song from this set the GD have not covered? It must have been the mid 50's to mid 60's part.

We're never too old to learn.

Again, RIP RH. May the four winds blow you safely home indeed.

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The heart has it's beaches, it's homeland and thoughts of it's own
Wake now, discover that you are the song that the morning brings
But the heart has it's seasons, it's evenings and songs of it's own...........
.......that's all I can say at this time.

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There's nothing you can hold for very long.

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Robert Hunter. We love you more than words can tell.

Jerry. Bob. Pig. Phil. Billy. Mickey. TC. Keith. Donna. Brent. Vince. Hornsby. Those were the players (& Dana Morgan).

But Hunter & Barlow are/were just as integral to the band. And now they are both gone.

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Inspiration. Move me brightly. Light the song with sense and color. Hold away despair.
My entire day is now on hold. So many poignant lyrics. It's like he knew all of us in one way or another. Godspeed Bob Hunter. Say hi to Jerry, Pig, Brent, Keith, John Perry and Vince for us 😭.

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Don't mourn the inevitable, celebrate the life and the gifts bestowed through the lyrics.

Currently on disc 2 of 7/12/87 from this box and it is excellent on every level, an excellent show, a phenomenal recording. It sounds as good or better than that of the Spring 1990 TOO box, which is saying a lot. Cool when there is an official release of a show that you attended.

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Bad things keep happening to me this month, but this one really hurts. I live by your words Robert, and now that you are gone, there will be a tear in my eye everytime I hear them, which is every day. Via con dios by friend.

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Tonight, standing beside the bronze of "Jerry's Hand" in Jerry Garcia Grove at the Santa Barbara Bowl, I will raise a glass to our poet. The Steely Dan show that follows will be bittersweet.

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When I heard the news, I quickly grabbed the new box, looking for something to play. And I chose the 1989 Bird Song.

You said that my "777" on the box was lucky. I sure was lucky to have found Robert's words and this band. Or did they find ME . . . ?

Lots of tears today, but trying to dry my eyes on the wind . . .

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