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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • daverock
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    My favourite show is the one from 1967. I have only played the 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 and 1990 shows this year, and I have enjoyed all of them all. After 1967, I would say 1968 and 1969 are the next two favourites. Maybe 1970, too- brilliant Other One there. I am sure the 1972, 1973 and 1974 ones are exemplary, too, but I cannot honestly recollect what they are like at this moment in time.

    Its also nice digging in the corners, as Jim suggests, and finding a shining star where you least expect it.

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    Is going to look great on the shelf, feel great in the hands, and sound AMAZING. I am Grateful.

    LOVE the 1967 from TTATS--best show ever? The '68 is fantastic. And then I am grateful for all the later shows in that box, particularly '82-'84 and '93-'95. The 1969-1978 shows are good, but we have so much from those years that my ears are thankful for the opportunity to hear sweet shows from the years we haven't heard much from.

    If I were a robot, couldn't I easily work around a basic CAPTCHA?

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    My favorites mirror some of those already mentioned.. especially 67, 70, 69 and (surprise) 74. 75 is very interesting also.

    ..but for me it's those shows that are off the beaten path that I sort of get the most mileage from.. 84 and 87 for example might just be the best shows played in their respective years and are super high energy. I could use a few less patches, but I enjoy the box very much.

    As mentioned on the Dave's Picks 31 thread, it looks like Dead.net got hacked and had to pay £73.92 in ransomware COD to some UPS guy with a Russian accent. Strange days..

    Have a great week all..

    LMG, check your PM.

    Oh, can't leave off 68, 76, 77, 78, 71, 72, 73.. Riverbend 85 is fun. 86 has a really sweet Comes a Time out of TOO. 91 with Branford.. 67 and 70 are my favorites though, if I had to pick.

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    11/10/67, 2/22/69, 4/25/77, 10/20/68, 4/15/70 mainly listen to the Drums> Soul Sacrificish Jam> The Other One, but great Man Man Man's World, too.

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    Hard for me to narrow to just 3 because they are all nice shows.

    I pretty much listen to everything I have from the Dead at least once per year on or near anniversary dates (for the most part), but here's 3 I like...

    9/10/91 MSG
    10/26/89 Miami Arena
    9/18/74 Dijon

    ...but I also like these 3...

    2/22/69 Dream Bowl
    10/20/68 Greek
    10/27/79 Cape Cod

    ...and of course EVERYTHING else.

    I couldn't see myself discounting any show from this set. All have plenty to like for me.

    As someone who came onboard during the 3rd decade of the band's existence, my initial preferences were the Pigpen and Brent era's. As I've dug deeper, mainly thanks to these releases, I like it all. Every era.

    Of the 50 shows I saw with Jerry, a few in '95 were kind of rough, especially the last two at Soldier Field. If released I'd still want them. Even the US Blues that Jerry pretty much gave up on at the second to last show.

    At the time of going to shows, the only other time (besides a few in '95) I felt the show was subpar was 3/13/93. The follow-up to Rosemont which I would agree was a nice run. Upon further listening many years later I find that even this show was really good. Terrapin through the end was top notch, including one of the GREAT Stella Blue's.

    My main hangup has always been lack of variety in official releases, and now that is no longer an issue. Love it all but my sweet spot is 65-95 with emphasis on '87-'91.

    Budgetary constraints has limited my ability to be a completionist, and I'm quite a few behind, but at least try to keep up as best as possible as new things come out. Missed out on much of the Record Store Day releases.

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    I find myself playing 9/28/75 Lindley Meadows the most....probably 9/18/74 Dijon France and the 3/18/71 Fox Theatre a lot... hope that helps.... there are so many good choices... bob t

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    I'm sure this has been asked before....but

    ****First off--LMG, stay positive and get well soon****

    Friends, looking for some feedback on the 30 Trips Box Set...in your opinion, what are your favorite 2-3 shows from the box. Appreciate your responses...

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    I got in the bus in mid 1992, and from then until 1995 I only had the exposure to the music from the few shows I attended, and the few live releases that were out, one and Two from the Vault, Bears Choice, Without a Net, Dick's Picks 1. I was also able to acquire some tapes. Basically I was taking it all in, loving all of it of course. Yet I do recall at my first show, when Bobby sang Lovelight i was little thrown off - yes I was used to hearing Pigpen on that tune. The result was that I just didn't have a good knowledge of shows or eras and was certainly lacking in the numbers tapes I had listened too.

    So I did my Dead scholarly work after Jerry died, because I was compelled to get as many shows as I could. I sought out getting more tapes and thankfully Dick's Picks kept coming out. Now even then I knew that the shows from "back in the day" were more coveted, or at least that was what more experienced heads told me. I remember a dude from college who only listened to shows from 73-74... he was pretty obsessed with it, but I can see why. So I got every tape I could and listened to them all. Many of my tapes were from 69 -78 as it turned out. I became most familiar that time frame and over time I developed that as a preference. Of course I was exposed to many of the standout out shows: 3/1/69, 4/28/71, 5/8/77, 7/8/78...etc

    However over time and especially in recent years I have been way more open to shows from all eras/years. I still feel like there are a few years that may not appeal to me, but I am open to anything. It doesn't matter where they played as long as the music is good, well I should say good for the time. For example, I will certainly judge show from 85 on its own merits and not compare it to a 77 show.

    At this point I will buy any just about anything TPTB give us. Although I may have expanded my horizons over the years , still I feel the same as I did all those years ago in '95, when I valued every show because everything came to end. I still feel this way and now we have had many shows be given the official release. In terms of volume The Dead/Dave L./Rhino have not quite cuaght up with the tapers/archive.org obviously. Yet I am happy and appreciative of what Dave L and the crew have given us and I feel like they are doing a great job.

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    I’ve a similar view to Daverock on this. As a U.K. follower of the Dead I only saw them twice; the last two nights of the 1990 European Tour. Both shows were great, particularly the last night.

    Without A Net had only been out a few weeks and I loved the wider sound palette they were using (midi I guess). There were also two or three incendiary performances on the album, albeit along with a few lacklustre ones, and I decided I really liked this modern Dead sound. Up until the I’d only listened to official releases. I had a few tapes, but I’d never really played them as I didn’t like cassettes.

    One From The Vault came out in 1991. The sound palette was more limited but the performance was uniformly strong and Garcia’s voice sounded great. I stuck with the just official releases which became more plentiful as the years went on, covering most eras of the band. I yearned for more of the sparkling midi sound of WAN. I’ve already mentioned that I loved Terrapin Limited, but couldn’t find anything at all to enthuse about in Dozin’ At The Knick. Subsequent mid to late 80s and 90s shows continued to disappoint whereas I found several of the earlier releases, from the 70s, to exceptional.

    The more I listened to release of all eras, the more it became apparent that, whilst you can find good things to listen to from all eras of the dead, the consistency of performance started to deteriorate in the late 70s and this only accelerated from the early 80s. This view is simply my own, not born out of the era I started listening to the band in or the shows I attended but out of what I hear in the Dead’s numerous official live releases.

    So, whilst I loved the shows I saw in 1990, I’ve no desire to see these released. Having heard so many disappointing releases from the 80s and 90s, why should I believe these shows will stand up to the scrutiny of repeated listening any better than most of the others?

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    I am not sure its acceptable to answer your own question, but....
    Of all the 1980s shows, I would be most interested in getting copies of the two I went to-or shows from the two tours they were a part-Europe March and October 1981, than any of the others.
    Similarly, of all the Bruce and Vince shows I would be most interested in getting copies of the three I attended in October/November 1990 than any of the others.

    But...and its a big but....I would prefer to get any unreleased show from the 1974 Europe tour than any of the five I went to. Or any show from 1974 and earlier, come to that. I just prefer the music played during those years.

    I have this attitude for most of the rock/blues/pop.. whatever... music I listen to. I much prefer the era from 1965-1975 than what came after. There are exceptions of course-but I probably listen to more music from those years than any other.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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I made that one.. was on a wilderness trip with my brother and low and behold.. the circus was in town. Not the best show.. but we sure did have a good time. We kept hoping Santana would come out and play a few with the boys, but that was not meant to be.

Still.. got to see the Dead in a new state, which is always a fine adventure.

I really love Washington State.. if you haven't been, try and fit it in. Lots to do.. August and September really aren't as wet as people would lead you to believe and the winters get plenty of snow in the high country if that's your thing. A truly great state, ample opportunities for grand adventures.

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I've been meaning to do this for a while - listen to all four Dark Stars in a row. Mission accomplished.

I can't tell the difference between 2/27 and the other three. They all sound great to these half deaf ears. I'm going to go out on a limb and say 2/27's reputation, while deserved, is bolstered by its massive exposure rate (compared to the other three). They're so similar, just on account of that time priod I think (in contrast to say, Eurooe '72, where they're ALL different except for the the verses and forays into the main theme).

Glad I got that off my plate.

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A buddy of a buddy was at this show and the guy next to him leaves saying “I don’t do Bobby encores” I always chuckle about that.

I only saw one show in 88. First show actually, 6-26-88 and it was a good one. Full on In The Dark GD with some sweet tunes I had no clue about at the time.

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I was at the Meadowlands concert 6/17/91 it was awesome . I couldn't even recognize eyes of the world for opener because it caught me so off guard ,. Best show I went to , thank you for a real good time

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going through some heartache at the moment, you know the deal the " i just want to be friends" thing. so you just try to do whatever to get your mind off it. play some playstation or what have you. i decided to put this show on where i last left off. could have been the nite sky, could have been the cold fall weather settling in, or the feeling that i had maybe all 3. but this was the most god damn beautiful It Must Have Been The Roses I ever heard, followed by Stuck Inside Mobile I really felt soothed by Hornsby's accordion and Vince's organ. which just goes to show again, it's not what they play but how they play it. did it fully chase these blues away? no. but it helped. i really needed this show tonite. god bless the grateful dead

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John Mayer said that in a magazine article-I think it’s true and so I thought it was worth sharing.

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"Music has charms to sooth a savage breast " So wrote William Congrieve in 1697.

I have always really liked the song It Must Have Been The Roses-beautiful. The studio version on "Reflections" is good, too.

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As i said, it was ok. Touch of Grey out of Space was unique, so that's cool.

Not quite a Ripple encore, but hey...

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Sorry, bro.

Crank up that old Victrola!

Relationships...blech.

"Love stinks"

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That was me. I was the guy next to the buddy of your buddy. Small world.

Stoltzie, I have 11/19/72 going. Any show with Dark Star and Bird Song is a winner.

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...to get Customer Service to give a reply to emails and phone calls as to what is going on with delivery of everyone’s orders. Being backlogged is one thing, but to just ignore your customers so blatantly is pretty hard to take. Maybe Dave Lemieux can do a quick Sea Side chat to explain how the ball got so badly dropped on this box set release, or even a general “Hey, we messed up, but here is how we are fixing it” message on the site. I have to agree with a previous post - I’m not sure I will order from Dead.net again, unless I have to, which is lousy, because I cherish the 30 Trips box and the numerous other items I’ve acquired over the years.

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We received our box last week before we got a Email saying it had shipped. Then three days ago we got the vinyl. Both shipped to our home by UPS. We had our PO Box as the shipping address but they were delivered to our home. I’m not sure what the problem is but at least we got both items.

We also got our 7” single last month but it was severely warped so I requested a replacement on September 21st and got a Email saying they were backed up and would respond in ten business days. We have yet to hear back and it’s October 5th.

They really need to get their act together soon so they don’t lose their golden goose. We love anything that they have to release and want the remaining band members to make the money, but they can only screw up so much before we turn and run.

Love the box set and the shows are great. The vinyl from 91 is beautifully done. Excellent pressings and the mix is awesome. These are some of the best sounding recordings from this GD period. Great booklet too. Haven’t watched the Blu Ray yet, but really glad to get any Dead shows on Blu Ray. I’m hoping that more shows will follow in Hi Def.

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Adding my name to this disastrous shipping debacle. Still no sign of my order being shipped. Many emails, web help submissions later I called on Friday. After 24 minutes a guy named Elvis said my order would ship yesterday or today, and still nothing.

I’m done with this, on Monday I’m going to cancel my order and I’ doubt I’m going to order from dead.net again.

Agree with the previous commenter that David needs to address this, pissing off your customers who are buying overpriced CDs in a market where stealing this music is really easy - is a bad idea. If Warner can’t treat us properly find another company to distribute this stuff.

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After the debacle with the last Dave's Picks order, you would think they would figure this out. When I called Dead.net the last time about the crazy Duty charges I suggested that since Rhino Music is part of Warner Music (USA). Why do they not send all the Canadian box set orders directly to Warner Music Canada and let them mail them out (No Duties this way) This is how the 3CD and 5LP box happened and they were distributed to the stores where I bought my 3CD set and 5LP Box set with no problems. This can't be that hard to comprehend. - This is totally frustrating and it should not be happening. Every Dead.net order seems to have a problem attached with it!

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A little worried, about the rest of the year, releases. They still have to release, the final 2019 Dave's release. GDM has a new album out. I believe "Ready or Not" is due out in November. Then we are also going to hopefully get 2020 Dave's Pick Subscription sale.
I hope they find the time to correct and make good on those, who are having problems, self included.

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Kim Shattuck died at 56. Had a great yell. RIP.

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I recommend everyone who has been mistreated by rhino to dispute all charges to your credit cards, even if you have received the merchandise, they might get the message then if all of a sudden the product was all gone, yet, they received no profit. laugh out loud rhino, you can not continue to treat your loyal customers this way and not expect an uprising to occur. What is mind boggling is that they have not said one word about their horrible service, not an apology, not even an acknowledgement that they fucked up. Hell of a way to run a railroad, it's like Casey Jones is at the wheel, and he's not just high, he's wasted.

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I'm with you on the first '89 show, Charlie3. Definitely the unexpected gem for me (and on my birthday no less!) But really loving the second '91 gig as well. That said, there's really not a bad show in the bunch.

Cream - Wheels Of Fire (current)
Poi Dog Pondering - Pomegranate
GOGD - Giants Stadium 7.9.89.
Eagles - On The Border
Trey Anastasio - Ghosts Of The Forest
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Saw Joker last night. No shots were fired. If one was to trust the media, I left a bit disappointed. Lol.
Otherwise, the movie was great. I took away a main point that it was trying to say that social services fails the mentally ill. This point is not wrong. Joker has several layers. One layer is that it does not encourage violence. Give me a break media. I ain't buying into your shit. Remember Natural Born Killers? I do. Remember violent outrages afterwards? I don't either.

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Check your pm inbox.

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....I am guilty of not clicking that link as much as I should. Thanks people.

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Uncle Sam, disputing a credit card charge as a means of protest for merchandise you knowingly received is a sure way to 1) lose your credit card account 2) damage your credit rating, 3) get convicted of a felony.

People do not listen to this malcontent.

....the Cumberland from E72 was the touchstone for my long strange trip, but that Silva Hall show was my first time listening to the Dead while on acid. So yeah. Setlists don't really matter anyway.

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Shit another legend gone. Talk about leaving a legacy.

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Finally made it through all the shows. I really love the late era box sets because each show is so different. I knew 6/17/91 was gonna be a magical one because of all the hype, but that 6/16/91 show is definitely not one to take for granted. Very solid and lively show, for any era.
A couple of things that I think are weird with this release. First off, Brent is not listed in the credits. I know most of us (if not all) know what shows Brent played on and all that but i still think it would be a good idea to have his name listed. Pretty small thing because it's mainly about the music and there is certainly a lot of really great music in this box. We are definitely spoiled as Deadheads, with the amount of quality music that has been preserved and released...which brings me to my 2nd thing. The 87 show was one that was recorded on 24 tracks and mixed for the release of this box, right? Maybe this is subjective, but I think Jerry's guitar is a little low in the mix on Morning Dew. Every other guitar solo from the box set is at a perfect volume...everything else really, is just exactly perfect. Don't get me wrong, I think the sound is incredible on these shows and extremely grateful to have these shows for my enjoyment. Just don't know why the lead guitar would be quiet on that particular song. Nothing wrong with the solo on Morning Dew from 7/10/89. Was it something other than the mixing? Was the sound messed up for that song? Did Jerry have himself turned way down? Was one of the 24 tracks not Jerry's guitar? ...then in come the claps, which is really great and make my hairs stand up...but wait, very audible claps? Is this an AUD? Sorta sounds a little like a matrix maybe...I love the claps but no other song from the box set has claps (or any audience noise) that is as audible as it is on Morning Dew. It's just a little confusing, for me at least. Curious if anyone else noticed...maybe I'm just losing it.

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dont look at them ahead of time. Many pleasant surprises.

If 5 8 84 was your "first time", vguy, then you got a goooooood one

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Yep! I noticed the same thing on Dew and commented on it in the Giants boxset thread on the phish.net forum. 87 first set sounds fantastic and then that Dew to start the 2nd set is noticeably different and sounds like either an audience or matrix. Things go back to the board as Playin starts and gets better as that song goes along. Who knows. Maybe there were issues on the master reels for Dew and they had to use a different source.

Only other minor mixing complaint for me is vocals are mixed a little low on 6-16-91 (havent listened to 6-17 yet), but that's a very minor quibble.

Otherwise thought the shows sounded awesome with a really great mix!

Thought the shows themselves were excellent overall! Not a clunker in the set and the energy is awesome in all of them! 6-16 is a fantastic show start to finish which I was not expecting. Oh, and how about that Black Peter with the extended jam at the end? Phenomenal Black Peter!

Awesome boxset though and surpassed my expectations a bit. :D

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I don't think there is any matrix action on the '87 Morning Dew, but I could be wrong.

...but if it were a matrix, it would be part soundboard, part aud.. so why mix in audience? They often do this right before and after aud patches to lessen the impact before we go full-bore into aud territory, but this does not seem to be the case here.

I think it's more likely that the crowd, being in New York, went ape shit simply because they opened the second set with Morning Dew, which was a rarity as a set opener by '87. So if the crowd goes absolutely ape shit, the crowd noise will come through the vocal mics.. and if it's really loud and well recorded.. for a few brief seconds it sounds like an audience recording.

That's my take.

As for where Jerry's guitar sounds in the mix, perhaps it was just the performance. On occasion they opened shows with MDew, and opened the second set with MDew, but I always thought the song was more powerful when used late in the second set, as a ballad crescendo-meltdown song rather than as a cold opener. I guess what I am trying to say is I noticed the same thing but had different thoughts as to the reasoning. As a set opener, they seemed to have a more difficult time finding their groove with this tune compared to when it came later in the set after they were warmed up, and often on fire..

As always, I reserve the right to be absolutely, cold-opener wrong. It's pretty subjective territory, but that's my take. Perhaps I should listen to it again to be sure.

Chalk it up to 70k New Yorkers, perhaps more than few just beginning to peak, flipping out and losing their shit simply because the second set opened with Morning Dew and Jerry and the boys being less nimble then when this song appears later in the set.

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Well put Senator. Cracked me up.

Listen to that Dew again. It's clearly a different source vs the first set and the rest of the second set. It's not just a few seconds, but the whole song. This has nothing to do with the crowd reaction.

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I did.. spent the last half hour listening to that with headphones.

Mustin 1, JimInMD 0. There is something in that mix.. For my first listen, I just did the first set, then started with the second set the next day. But tonight I started with Bertha (why not) and then into the second set.

I certainly screwed the pooch on that one. I wonder what was up? It was the clapping towards the end that just would not come through on stage.

Sorry.. I was flat out head face planted deep in the snow wrong on that one.

Good catch.

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Hmm. I listened to dew and Mabey it was a mic. swap at 2nd set break. Jerrys guitar vol. seems ok to me for a quieter song but like jim said ,you would not hear that loud clapping in the mic. so clearly at that distance. Mabey they had an aud. Mic. just for Dew but I doubt it. Kind of nit picking but still strange. The clapping seems quite loud on dew only. When Jerrys noodling on space the aud. Is quite distant. But it still a stellar show!

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Until I saw the Beware Mr. Baker movie I didn't know a lot about Ginger Baker, only that he was a very highly regarded drummer. I don't even know Cream, except for Sunshine and White Room. I can't believe they did not get more air play on FM radio. Blind Faith is all I own with him.

What impressed me the most about Mr Baker was his confidence in his song arranging capability. He made it sound like he contributed a great deal to the music production, not just drumming.

Love how he scoffed at the mention of Bonham and Moon being great drummers. I would love to have heard his opinion on Peart.

Can't believe he blew all of that reunion tour money. Horses? It's been awhile since I saw the movie. Was he doing a lot of drugs? That'll burn through a million bucks pretty quick.

Well I keep telling myself I need to get into that Allman Brothers Fillmore East box set from 1971 as soon as I get bored of the Dead. That hasn't happened yet and I've had the box set for well over a year. But I really should by the cCeam records in order.

Stoltzie. I started to listen to that 84 show you mentioned last night. It was late and I fell asleep after the first two songs but I really enjoyed the funky keyboard sound. I've never heard that before. You know what I mean.

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Is Mary still here? Im having a problem with Customer Service for 2 months now, not getting a refund on a cancelled order. Help?

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Count me in for being impressed with this box set. It exceeded my expectations for sure. It reminds me aa bit of the '78 box in that its five shows and the first, two-disc show catches you by surprise a little bit. Its the best I've ever heard the band sound in '87 and the playing is very good. The first '89 show in the box may be my favorite all-around show. I love that set list. Bummer to hear that Brent did not make the credits. How is that possible? I'm going to take a look through my book tonight and check.

I'm really digging the sounds quality here. You can hear all the drums well and I love those synth drums Billy and Micky were working in during this time. Phil's bass also sounds great and really cuts through the mix well.

I was listening to the Might as Well in the last show (6-17-91) yesterday and wondered: are there more Might As Well's at the end of this song or more "Don't you let that deal go down"'s at the end of 4-22-78? Its a close race.

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If anyone deserves to rest in peace - he does.

The only music I have paid much attention to, that he contributed to, are the records by Cream. Maybe they get overlooked a bit now...maybe their albums haven't travelled so well.. but they had tremendous influence during their tenure and for the first half of the 70s. Both The Dead and the Airplane were apparently knocked out by them when they played San Francisco in 1967...I don't think anyone who saw then had ever heard anything like it before. As I understand it, Hot Tuna were formed partly in response. True, they were somewhat upstaged by Jimi Hendrix...but even he may not have become what he did without Cream setting the template.

Throughout he early-mid 70s, most of the live bands I saw seemed to have grown out of what Cream achieved. All the loud,heavy, guitar solo oriented bands had their basis with Cream. In fact, in 1973, when I started listening to bands from the 60s, Cream and Hendrix were the ones that initially stood out. And each member was of equal importance-when they jammed all three of them went for it.

So great riffs, great singles, good at jamming. Nothing to do with Ginger Baker...but with Martin Sharp on board...two great album covers, too.

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