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June 11, 2009 - 9:46am

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marye

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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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February 8, 2010 - 4:24pm

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Oroboros

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June 4, 2007

I don't have a DVD burner but can read & copy the flac DVDs

on my computer, which is what I have done with several 'flac only' offerings.. Computer does recognize DVDs & somehow I was able to even listen to them a couple weeks ago (can't figure it out right now how I did that, however). Hope to convert those DVDs soon (esp. my Dr. John vine) as I do have several waiting. Lopezz sent me some programs to help with my converting some of the flac DVDs that I have gotten from here (and elsewhere). I hope to get to this process, possibly this weekend if I can get computer time from wife (work) and son (school). I recognize the cost issue as far as sending stuff out. I feel like it is fair with all the wonderful & transportive music I am getting. But I will figure it out. Even with my flintsonean skill level. ;o} marye, what do I do without any hair to pull out? Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
February 8, 2010 - 10:17am

#852

marye

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just chiming in

to say that having had to learn flac conversion for the vine currently in my possession, I tore my hair for about half an hour (much of that devoted to downloading a free program that didn't work, but the shareware SoundConverter seems to work fine and was worth the 14 bucks) and after that it was all pretty clear sailing. And my new computer (sigh...) has a good DVD drive. I do agree that the lack of a DVD drive is a more formidable obstacle for many folks than the conversion itself.
February 8, 2010 - 6:50am

#853

cosmicbadger

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New Vindex

Posted today 8 Feb 2010
February 7, 2010 - 11:35pm

#854

cosmicbadger

Joined:
June 13, 2007

24 Bit

can sound fantastic Witness the mindboggling 24 Bit versions of the of the fabulous April 71 shows that are appearing these days (the latest is 4-26-71). The main drawbacks are that the files are MUCH bigger and you cannot convert them to WAV (without losing all the audio benefits). And of course the audio source must be of good quality to be be able to make a difference. To listen you have two main choices Play through a 24 Sound Card or Digital Audio Converter. Your PC is unlikely to have such a thing internally. I have an external 24 Bit box that sits between my computer and my hi-fi. Its not the best you can get but it does the job. Burn to an Audio DVD or Video DVD and play through a suitable player. You can find out much more about entering the world of 24 bit by reading this http://24bit.turtleside.com/ and through this discussion http://www.shnflac.net/forum.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=10231 WOW as I write I see that a new 24 Bit Matrix of 74-6-23 Jai Alai Fronton has just appeared.
February 7, 2010 - 8:02pm

#855

JackstrawfromC…

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January 2, 2009

It's all good

Like I said, I am on board with whatever format people choose. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
February 7, 2010 - 5:20pm

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stuman

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November 21, 2007

I see JSFC`s point also

In the past I have educated a few people on the how too`s of converting . personally I prefer dvd because i just copy straigh into a hard drive then burn later . but yes whatever media is fine with me . I too am just happy to have a place and kind folks to do this vine stuff with !!
February 7, 2010 - 2:55pm

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dstache

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September 10, 2007

FLACless

I don't think you need to have a DVD burner to read DVD's. Hippy doesn't have a DVD burner but still does FLAC because his drive can at least read DVD's. FLACless, please comment
February 7, 2010 - 2:48pm

#858

JackstrawfromC…

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I think the problem is more over being dvd-less

Than being flac-less. I don't mean this is in a bad way or anything but I do understand if one doesn't have a DVD burner and usually that is how flac/shn are delivered is on dvd. But what I don't understand is why the flacless cannot convert flac/shn to wav. Conversion is just too easy to do for it to be a problem and limitation. My point is if we want to reduce postage costs (yes I do) the best thing is flac/shn on dvd but it makes more sense to me to put flac/shn on CD's rather than on dvd's instead of putting wav onto dvd if our goal is to look out for our friends with limitations. Because I just don't think flac-less should be a limitation. Anyways, just my opinion, in the end I don't mind how we do this vining stuff, I'm just glad it is here for us all to enjoy no matter what are media preferences :-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
February 7, 2010 - 1:42pm

#859

Deadicated

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June 4, 2007

24-bit

Recently, I've been seeing more and more 24-bit posts of classic shows on the Archive - could this format be the WAV of the future? " Where does the time go? "
February 7, 2010 - 1:28pm

#860

stuman

Joined:
November 21, 2007

for the FLACless

I think that sounds like a good idea. That way the flacless would get the text document with the set and lineage info . of course if one wanted to do a multi show vine it would have to be on muti DVD`s. and that would put an end to converting and extra postage. I actualy passed on a few vines that got converted becuz of the extra weight .

Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

Stay safe and healthy out

Stay safe and healthy out there.

Back to the Dead!!!

I have been away for a couple of months dealing with a very unexpected death in our family. Being the oldest of 3 I had to handle the details of which there were many in a very unorganized fashion. The storm has finally passed thank (insert whoever you belive in here). I believe it is safe to resume vining. I apologize for not posting here sooner,but I'm sure everyone here will understand the situation. It looks as if there are some really cool vines in the mix. I think I have two vines, that I will find out who is next in line and send off asap!! I apologize for the delays and will repair my surely tarnished vining reputation stat!! Kevin

welcome back

Kevin. Sorry about ur loss and no worries. There are a few of us here who have been having issues as of late. I hope smileydave still doing alright. Thanks again for the update. As we all know communication is a must in this lil place.

Sorry for your loss

That stuff is always very hard. Don't worry, your reputation is just fine here brother! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Estim8ed

Sorry for your loss, Kevin. Glad to have you back.

Estim8ed

Sorry to hear of your loss .. welcome back .. " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "

Thanks to all

Thanks for the support guys. I have sent off one vine (New 90's Pt 1) and I cannot locate the other that I was supposed to have (Capital Center '91) I posted to the vine offering blanks if someone would re-seed. That should have me up to date. If anyone knows of vines that I was the death of let me know and I will try to help. Again thanks to eveyone in this community for your understanding of life's ups and downs and for all you do for the vineyard. Especially those who have vined with me for years now and always have the back of a brother, as I wil always have yours when you need it.Kevin

things are

starting to turn arond here, slowly though. I will try to get working on some of these vines, jst depends on how much stamina i have. thanks all for your well-wishes and patience

good wishes to all

It seems a few folks have been through some hard times lately and they have received nothing but kindness and understanding. Here's some good springtime wishes to all of you! I think the members of this vineyard really must be one of the nicest groups of people anywhere on the web.

I agree with Badger

We rock! Hang in there Matt and take your time! Anybody going to Furthur Sunday night? "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

We rock

A very special place indeed. Sure wish I was going to be in NY this weekend... ahh well .. Matt - Great to hear that things are getting better! Please take your time with vine turn around. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Attention My Fellow Viners

There is a chance that I may be moving by April. If I do or not I will let you know. Hopefully I can still vine but if life gets in the way the vineyard would have to be put on hold for me. If this is the case I will mail any remaining vines that haven`t been signed up on to JSFC to hold onto.-Jake

Sounds like fun Jake...

at least I hope so - good luck with the move as for me - I'll be back in Calif. Tuesday night I got a couple vines with me that I may get out on Monday the ones waiting for me in Sunnyvale will be turned around within a day or two of my return THANKS ALL!!

FURTHUR LAST NIGHT

Without sounding too hyperbolic, last night's Furthur show (3/27) at Radio City was far and away the best post-Jerry show of any type I have seen. If you get the chnce, check out the setlist and even more check out the guests, Elvis Costello, Diana Krall, etc, etc. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

Furthur Set List 3/27

Set I: Samson & Delilah Chest Fever (w/Larry Capmbell) Tennessee Jed (w/Larry Campbell & Elvis Costello) Friend of The Devil (w/Larry Campbell & Elvis Costello) Ship of Fools > (w/Larry Campbell & Elvis Costello) It Must Have Been The Roses > (w/Larry Campbell & Elvis Costello) Ship of Fools (w/Larry Campbell & Elvis Costello) Cassidy Ripple (w/Larry Campbell, Elvis Costello & Diana Krall) Set II: Throwing Stones Sunrise (w/Teresa Williams) St. Stephen > Radio City jam > St. Stephen > What's Become of The Baby > (w/Teresa Williams) The Eleven > Uncle John's Band... (w/Larry Campbell) Unbroken Chain > The Wheel > Morning Dew > Sugar Magnolia Encore: Donor Rap Days Between Encore II: Phil Banter Jam > (w/Larry Campbell, Elvis Costello & Diana Krall) Fever (w/Larry Campbell, Elvis Costello & Diana Krall) Encore III: Phil banter/intros Attics of My Life (w/Elvis Cosello & Teresa Williams) Does anyone out there know if the Dead ever did "Whats Become of the Baby" live? "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

What's become of the baby

I think it was last played by the GD in 1969. They did one on 4/26/69 in Chicago. Of course Furthur did it at FurthurFest last year. I agree that they are firing on all cylinders so far in 2011!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

It does sound good

Keep a song in your heart. Downloaded at bt.etree.org

I wish the mic's were

Keep a song in your heart. higher i never did care for the crowd noise.

thanks all

for the well wishes...what a helluva past 6 weeks. now that all the crap is behind its time to start burnin' and turnin', spinnin' and grinnin'......will try to keep posted but be on the lookout for packages from wisconsin!!!

i found a new app for my android

It's called vibe vault, I can download shows directly to my phone from archives.org .. This is awesome since I can't find a flax player for Android or a download manager that actually works .. just thought I would share this with you all ... Take care .... " Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "

Update

I will be stayin at my current address for a little while longer it seems.

ok y'all

i'm not 100% yet but please contact me before shifting me around in order on vines. it was grately appreciated, but i can handel a few vines. and just to update, i just "beat on this round the big C"......total remission, am weak but gettin by. and besides now that the snow is gone, ain't nothin' better than a walk to the p.o......thanks again all!

maustin

Take care brother. That is great news and man, I'm sorry you are going through that. <> "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

That's weird

Anyways, it was supposed to say inside the <> ... positive healing wishes and vibes to you "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

Great news, Matt!

Hang in there, brother! Get well! Joe

MATT

The positive vibes will continue to be sent your way from the Vineyard. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."

i am sorry

sorry about crazy stupid rant , no excuses , was on mushrooms bad , i am sorry if i ever said anything bad about anyone personally

Help

I have been investigating different ways to store files on line, that would be accessible by more than one person. I have put some shows on a skydrive. The files are downloadable, no passwords are needed. If any of you want to try it out, feel free and PM me to let me know how it worked. (or didn't work) Here is the address: http://cid-0908c9749ff4b1b3.skydrive.live.com/home.aspx?sa=795624458

Update

I will be vining the 1969 Lossless Project composed of 5 parts by the end of the month. I will being posting multiple parts at once. I ask that once these get the go ahead, no one has more than one vine at a time, please. So if you sign up first on more than one, I will be sending it to the person after you. Don't take it as disrespect I just wanna keep this music moving. That being said, enjoy this healthy dose of Pigpen and 1969.

69 lossless

So, Jake, are you including the shows that were vined as Early 69 (which included most of Jan-Apr) in the 1969 Lossless Project? I don't know if there are 5 parts if you don't include those shows. I am very interested in all the shows not included in the Early 69 parts. Thanks!

jake r

Cancel that, just saw your post in the Early 69 thread. Makes sense. Looking forward to the later shows!

1969 Lossless Project

Glad to see everyones excited about these vines. Ive been wanting some shows from this great yr in lossless for some time now as the majority that have been vined here were on cd that I signed up on forever ago it seems. Listening to the Lovelight from an old Woodstock Bootleg many years ago got me to be a Pigpen fan. Thanks to Rick for sendin me the shows and I hope you all enjoy these as much as I do. You can never have too many Dark Stars, The Other Ones, or Lovelights IMO. Long live the vineyard and happy vining to all.

Rick? As in Ltapilot? It's

Rick? As in Ltapilot? It's because of him the '67 vine is out there...Thanks Rick

No doubt!

LTAPilot behind the scenes!! Thanks for everything Rick =) If I remember correctly he lives like 30 min from me ... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

an LTApilot sighting?

cool!

Help

I have been able keep things mostly organized since being part of this community. I am at a total loss. I got some Feb-Mar 2011 Further stuff in the mail, and I have been up and down the threads, and I don't see a 2011 Further vine. I am sure it's right in front of my face. Is there a 2011 Further Vine?

No worries EDAD

Not a Furthur Vine. Just a couple of shows to share. Best Wishes-Jimmy

1969 Update

Well it appears I need a new burner. I wont be able to get one for a lil bit so I`ve sent all my original 1969 DVDs from Rick to kwitt so he can burn and turn instead of me risking more DVD issues. Everyone should be getting replacement discs and Parts 4 and 5 should be sent soon.I apologize for the hangup but I promise its worth the wait.

No problem Jake, thanks for

No problem Jake, thanks for all your hard work on this one! And thanks for stepping in, Kwitt!

1969 Update

The original DVDs arrived today. Will burn and turn each of the five vines ASAP. Thanks Jake!

1969 Update

I have re-burned all 5 vines although it looks like JBH69Flyer fixed #1. The remaining 4 will ship tomorrow. I'll update each vine list once they ship. Thanks to Jake for providing well organized info. Great stuff here folks!

1969 Vine Part One Update

Thanks kwitt for the great job on fixing the 1969 Vines. Yes, I was able to DL the needed shows to fix the 1969 Vine Part One. Planning to send zepthompson my fixes and then send the vine out to the next person on the list. Thanks again to Jake R for starting this vine and kwitt for the fixes. Great Stuff!! Best Wishes-Jimmy

awesome work

Keith and Jimmy side note headed out of town later this week I'll try to update any vines where it looks like I should be knocked down a notch or two gone for one week - should not be a big deal thanks again every one!

Zep

I wouldn't worry about making any adjustments to lists ... we can wait =) Have a good trip! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

1969

Thanks to all involved in these vines - LtaPilot, Jake R, Kwitt and JBH69Flyer. What a very awesome effort! Cheers =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"

hey now folks

It's been a while since I posted anything so I just wanted to check in and say hello . Looks like I am stuck in salt lake city for the weekend ,, :-( Anyway, hope all is well with everyone !! Look twice save a life, motorcycles are everywhere . Thank you !!