GIANTS STADIUM 1987, 1989, 1991 BOXED SET

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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August 2, 2019 - 4:56pm

#1731

RobbZ

Joined:
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Ya Know....

I dig me some 87 and 89......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orlJKiOBWqE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtrz_fvmoc
August 2, 2019 - 4:20pm

#1732

fourwindsblow

Joined:
October 13, 2008

Another box

I do feel bad that some will have to wait till next year for new music I really wish there was another smaller box coming of another era I would buy it in a minute.
August 2, 2019 - 4:18pm

#1733

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Yes, sell the video separately

What’s the worst that could happen, you make more money?

Or at least offer it with the CD.
Kind of like Crimson, White, and Indigo; Sunshine Daydream; Egypt.

Does that mean that a VHS would then come with the vinyl?

I ordered the BluRay Box. Looking forward to it. A nice addition to the collection.

It’s been a good Jerry Week so far. I didn’t make it to the movie but I did order this Box, received and have listened to DaP 31 twice, and JGB 11-11-93 was at my door when I got home and is about to go in the CD player.

Do Rolling Stones fans bash former Stones members when the new live release isn’t the one they wanted?

Do Allman Brother’s Band fans bash former ABB members when the new live release isn’t the one they wanted?

I’m grateful for all releases.
Keep them coming Dave/Rhino/TPTB.
Just please, put a little more effort into quality control and logistics.
August 2, 2019 - 4:04pm

#1734

fourwindsblow

Joined:
October 13, 2008

???

"They're not the best at what they do. They're the only ones that do what they do."
August 2, 2019 - 4:04pm

#1735

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Doc, ice cream

Blue Moon

Mmmmmmm........

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_moon_(ice_cream)
August 2, 2019 - 3:23pm

#1736

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
June 17, 2008

Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternative..........

63 12-1-73

Just for the record: love the band, don't care for the era, I was there so it's not knee-jerk, uninformed choice. I choose not to attack or use personal insult. If somebody gets a box because I pass, good for them. Many don't care for the 90s, or 80s, 70s, or 60s. Me, I like the 50s.

Besides, life's too short, had one stroke already, not planning on a second because I don't like the current release. If I did, I'd have 30 strokes already.

This is why there's different flavors of ice cream. Some mysteriously prefer pistachio, while we all know that coffee chocolate chip peanut butter cup cookie dough is the best...…….

Settle down easy,

Doc
August 2, 2019 - 3:03pm

#1737

smyler

Joined:
November 9, 2007

Box Set and Brent Bashing

I’m delighted for those who’ve been asking for more 80s and 90s Dead, this box is for you guys. I might buy the single show but I won’t be buying the box. I’ve bought around 80% of the releases since One From The Vault came out 28 years ago and, on the basis of these purchases, formed the view that the quality of their performance deteriorated markedly during the latter years of the Dead’s existence. That isn’t to say there weren’t still great moments and great shows, but that, for me anyway, they became fewer and further between.

I’m not particularly disappointed that this box isn’t for me; I have more than enough GD to keep me going, I’m pleased I won’t need to justify another GD box to my wife, I’m also pleased I don’t have to find another $150 (nearer $200 when U.K. delivery and import duties are taken into account) and then of course this release probably means we’ll be back to something a little more up my street next year. Right now I’m also slightly reluctant to spend any more money at dead.net until the DP31 European shipping fiasco is resolved and left behind.

Despite not being a particular fan of the 80s and 90s, I really don’t get or like the Brent bashing. My lack of passion for this era has very very little to do with him. Indeed, I say his keyboard playing is one of the more positive aspects of late 80s GD. For me the problem stems from basic musicality; playing in tune and playing in time and together, the latter in particular becomes a more frequent problem for the GD as the years go on. The nadir for me is the Warlocks box which, whilst not without the occasional bright point, is at times cringingly embarrassing. So much that when hearing it for the first time I was half expecting someone to come on from the wings waving their arms and shouting “stop... stop.... STOP! Sorry guys, you’re just not getting it”. That said, I find much of Terrapin Limited, the second disc in particular, reciorded around 6 months later, nothing short of outstanding. I guess that’s the GD for you, particularly the GD in their latter years.

Then there’s Garcia’s voice, which becomes more and more of a disappointment as the years go on. Others have said they don’t listen to the GD for the singing; I don’t either, but the dead wrote a many truly magnificent songs and it’s always a pleasure to hear these played and sung really well.

There are other reasons to . . . those interminably tedious Dylan covers for instance . . . but aside from mediocre songwriting (something that wasn’t unique to Brent), these have very little to do with Brent.

Each to their own. I wish all of you who purchase this box, particularly those who’ve been waiting for something this era, happy listening. I’ll enjoy looking forward to the next 1970s box and spending my $150 on something else 😎
August 2, 2019 - 2:58pm

#1738

muleskinner_blues

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Death is but a door, time is but a window, I'll be back

34 here.

First Dead related show..err 6/17/17 Dead & Co at Fenway. Loved it until someone passed out in front of us and some Karen screamed at us for not doing anything for him, as the medics arrived. She had her hand on his shoulder, really stepping up where we didn't. Thanks for your help. Go to hell.

8 Dead & Co shows now, still a work in progress. More to come.

Still learning in all eras, coming up on 5 years of starting a 'deeper dive' into the Dead, beyond the big albums, etc. I did pick up the May '77 boxset as well as 11/30/80 randomly in 2013, they were...bewildering compared to Skeletons in the Closet and Europe '72, Vol 1.

Know very little post-Brent, what was in 30 Trips, etc. Looking forward to all three years in the new set. Used to only know Bruce Hornsby for the song he wrote for 2pac. (.....joke)

Fired up Dave's 31 for the first time as well, first disc in the car today. Keith is the best acoustic pianist they had in my opinion, that was rock n' roll piano, but Brent's energy and the addition of the B3 is a needle mover. As Sean Connery said in You Only Live Twice:

Bond: Why do Chinese girls taste different than other girls?
Ling: You think we better
Bond: No, just different. Like Peking duck is different from Russian caviar, but I love them both.
Ling: Darling, I give you very best duck

Ok that's a terrible out-dated and inappropriate example. Scratch that.

Waiting for a Dylan Fall tour announcement, as well as the next Bootleg Series (potentially). Sounds like they are exploring '67-69 which will be interesting, though it's been partially covered already. Any John Wesley Harding outtakes would be very interesting. With both being on Columbia, I can see them doing the Dylan / Cash sessions from '69 officially as well. While historic given the two of them, they really are not that good, in my opinion.

I did get some Dead exposure through Dylan before I knew them better. My first show was in 2006 during college, got in heavily in the year prior, but I heard the boots. When Jerry died, Dylan did dust off Friend of the Devil against in September '95, staying (randomly) in the repertoire through 2002 with a one off at Red Rocks in 2007. But the other tune he chose, starting in October 1995....obviously Alabama Getaway.

I'd hear talk about this great songwriter Robert Hunter that Dylan teamed up with, the results being Silvio and The Ugliest Girl In The World. :/

He also joined up with him on Together Through Life, an album I LOVE but maybe not the greatest songwriting testament for these two pillars of the western world. But I don't care, I love it. And despite some silly writing, the peaks are actually great songs.

Here's one I was at, great show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYC6VKnPhks

And a Getaway, before my time (not sure why they chose a '66 photo but sure): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPpmF3154As
August 2, 2019 - 2:56pm

#1739

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

My First Show and Age

All this has become very tricky since I met Bolo and have subsequently had Witness Protection issues, multiple passports, etc...

My current passport states I am 53, 4/19/82 was my first show. I found my self face to face with with two quite pleasant pieces of paper; nothing has been the same since but in a good way.

Mama, mama many worlds I've come since I first left home.

Hey guys and gals, please resist the temptation to call others out by name.. the back and forth is giving me whiplash, and to what end? There is no reason for it.. be general, be positive and push the conversation along. Is it my imagination or does this shit always seem to happen around election time? Perhaps we are all being played?

Good movie, btw.. whiplash. See it.
August 2, 2019 - 2:25pm

#1740

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

First show

I loved the first show I saw, in March 1981, but to have seen them in 1972 would have been amazing. I was 15 then, and a shade too young to travel out of my hometown to go to London. Any case, I didn't know who The Dead were in 1972-I saw T. Rex and David Bowie in then-great, but a long way off.
But those final shows of the tour, at the Lyceum-maybe they were the best ever played by the band on these shores? Great sounding venue, too, going off the sleeve notes for the cds. Bickershaw is a great show, and some of the other bands/artists performing were great-but I didn't much like big festivals-and that one doesn't look to rosy in the pictures.
Spacebrother- good to read that you are in fine fettle and enjoying life. Don't let the naysayers grind you down. I must say I enjoy being 62 more than I did being 26. You never know what the future holds, but so far so good!

John Perry Barlow

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Dave's Pick 32?

3/24/73 Philly Spectrum seems to be the final release of this year.

Gimme Some Lovin'

For something a little different try Gimme Some Lovin' from Traffic's live album, Welcome to the Canteen. Good chance you will get up and dance!

Take care...

re: Sudbury

Carlo...that's me in Sudbury (VGuy = Vegas Guy; aka Senator-in-the-making) - we recently moved here about a month and a half ago. Naughty storm last night indeed; we now live in the middle of the woods and the trees were a-swayin' for sure. Our driveway is littered with tree-fallen detritus.

Speaking of the move, we've finally nailed down a date for our Homecoming Bash - Saturday November 9th. Any locals on this board who may have an interest in a swing-through, open invite!

Welcome to the Canteen is a great album; my first Traffic.

Sixtus

Iko vs/ Aiko

First recorded by James "Sugar Boy" Crawford in 1953 as Jock-A-Mo. Copyrighted as "Iko"
Here's some interesting background though; "Aiko" may be closer to the original Mardi-Gras chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj6-irrsnsw

Aiko v Iko

Iko seems logical, not Aiko

I had a button that read Aiko Aiko, with an Eye of Horus on it.

I had a coworker named Aiko (her true name), so I gave the button to her.

Jim, hot tuna, money & this damn site!

I can not afford to come to this site anymore! Jim, you had me look up And Futhermore, simply because you said "out of print",,, a challenge I had to investigate. And there, on Amazon, used, like new, out of Georgia for only 20 bucks. Had to buy! Checked my Hot Tuna folder and found woefully under represented. So I checked out Burgers, said WTF and dropped in cart. Then this box set comes up, everything a sucker like me wants. Limited and gimmicky, WITH RARE photos, not the common ones you have in your daddy's bottom drawer. So this week alone on Hot Tuna you bastards have made me spend about 125 bucks.

Thanks!??

box set infor

Limited numbered 12 x 12 LP size box set containing eight original albums on hi-def CDs in cardboard mini LP sleeves: Hot Tuna, First Pull Up Then Pull Down, Burgers, The Phosphorescent Rat, Yellow Fever, Americas Choice, Hoppkorv and Double Dose (two CD set includes the full live performance). The boxset also includes an LP size luxury 28 pages booklet with liner notes by Richie Unterberger, rare photos and memorabilia, reproduction of the original eight LPs album art in a 12 format and original Art 1 x 2 tour poster designed exclusively for this boxset by legendary graphic and poster designer Dennis Loren.

Hot Tuna....

....for $9.95 per month for Spotify Dennis, you can get a shitload of live shows!!
And yes. Vguy is born and raised in Sin City. Moved to Elko, Nevada for three years then realized i hate the cold. Went back to being a desert rat. Plus, Eguy doesn't have the same ring.

Sixtus

Ah. I did not remember who, so I took a shot. Lots of damage around here and no power. Thanks for the invite too.

vguy and the spot-i-fied

Has anyone come up with a way to record what you are listening to on spotify? Short of having a reel to reel recorder plugged into your pc.

Money and Box Sets

You know what they say, Dennis - a collector and his money are soon parted.

Recording from Spotify....

....not that i know of.

Box finally arrived in…

Box finally arrived in Scotland today number 05913. Import charges of £44 but overall will still be cheaper than buying off ebay when one appears. Glad the box is smaller as I have run out of room on top of all my units. Listened to the first show this afternoon while doing other things and enjoyed it but looking forward to a proper listen with headphones. Happy listening for the next few days and will save the Blu ray for last.

Dennis

Audacity is free software that will record audio from your computer.

https://www.audacityteam.org/

But, I believe that streaming audio is highly compressed, possibly lossy.

Box in Germany

#8801 arrived late this afternoon at the Isle of Fehmarn in Northern Germany.
UPS charged total EUR 45,86 for VAT, Taxes and their rip off fee (EUR 11,50).
Box looks fine but half of the CDs are full of cratches. Checking the worst one
at the moment sounds fine, no skippings.
Takes 3 delivery days this time from the US to my hometown.
Waiting now for DP32.
By the way: Last five on my players:
Dead - East Rutherfords 06/17/91
Dead- By the time we got to Woodstock (Vinyl)
Dead - Boston Tea Party 12/31/69
ABB - Bear's Sonic (Fillmore 70) Vinyl
Neil Young - Hamburg 1989 Vinyl

Source of eBay listed releases

Theft from the new warehouse.
(Pure speculation on my part).

Found this on the message board for problems with GD store orders.

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August 30, 2019 - 4:29pm#2
WHISKYHAWK

Joined:
November 27, 2013

Still Waiting For DaP 30 To Be Delivered
Anyone else having this issue?

Per Dead.net Customer Service, 'Our new warehouse has advised that they have been unable to locate any numbered copies of Dave’s Picks Volume 30. With that confirmation, we have decided to produce a small, separately-numbered run of this title. We will use these copies to replace your missing or damaged Dave’s Picks Volume 30 shipment. Our production team has advised that the new, limited-edition run will be available in 2 months. "

Well, it's been two months and no word, no communication. Very frustrating.

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How do you lose a batch of numbered copies?

Last 5

Last Five
GD - 2/27/69
Dire Wolves - Grow Towards The Light
Rush - Permanent Waves
Jethro Tull - Stand Up
Sly and the Family Stone - Stand

Re: Dennis

Ha!! For what it's worth, I really like Furthurmore, honestly my favorite Hot Tuna CD or I wouldn't have brought it up. The first 8 or 9 songs are simply outstanding and it's an off the radar sort of release. Great album art too.. notice the fish on the cover does not have a beard nor a skeleton head.

One other ill-related artwork comment.. I love the CD art on Dave's Picks 32. The real attraction is skeleton is peering into a bright orb of some sort that gives him clarity into the Spectrum. So bright in fact you really cannot tell if the skeleton has a beard or not.. so all the fans of bearded skeletons should be fine with it.. on the other hand, if the skeleton has a beard, you cannot see it. Win/Win.

I don't have Spotify, but doing a quick google search it looks like there's a product called Spotify Downloader that streams to file. I bet lossy though, most of these are. For what it's worth, WinAmp lets you stream lossless to file from the archive. Not that I would ever do that.. All the soundboards circulate pretty freely, you just gotta poke around.

Regarding Hot Tuna's Furthermore cover art....

....that was by Tim Truman, who did the art for Dave's Picks volumes 5-8.

Tim Truman

Assuming you meant Dave's Picks 5 - 8. Note, no bearded skeletons although there is one skeleton with wings. I think that one slid under the radar.

Tim Truman....

....yes. i meant Daves's. Corrected.

Science, like nature, must also be tamed

Great album Charlie3. I think Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures sound exactly the same. Like they could have been a double album.

I had seen Rush on every tour since Power Windows, and at that point in their touring career they didn't really go too deep into their "classic" albums. The tour would consist of 2/3 or more of the album they were supporting, plus all of their radio hits. There would usually be one somewhat deeper cut, like Xanadu or La Villa Strangiato or even the Prelude to Hemispheres (all truncated to some extent).

And then along came the Test for Echo tour, and one of the greatest live rock bands in the world kicked it up a notch, threw away the standard two hour concert plus opening act nobody was interested in, and they started playing two sets with an intermission in between. Total amount of Rush music went up from two hours to two and a half hours, maybe even a little bit more. And the deeper cut started coming out. I had second row seats the first time I saw them on this tour. As if the unexpected full rendition of 2112 to end the first set wasn't enough, they blew us away with Natural Science from permanent waves in the second set. That song hadn't been played since permanent waves came out, around 16 years prior. And there were no live albums with that track. Hope you got to see that one. They began to play it often after that, right up until retirement.

Rush

Keithfan2112, yes, Permanent Waves is a great album from start to finish. I was a casual Rush fan early in high school, early '80's, before getting into the Dead. I had Signals and Moving Pictures on cassette and Exit Stage Left on vinyl, which I still have. Listened to a bit of Yes during that time as well. When I switched to CD's I picked up a Rush greatest hits collection and didn't really listen to a lot of Rush. Actually, Kiethfan2112, it was some of your Rush related posts that got me thinking I ought to start filling in the Rush collection and revisiting Moving Pictures and Exit Stage Left. At this point I have everything from Permanent Waves to Signals. I suspect it's just a matter of time till I pick up most or all of Rush's albums up to Signals, maybe beyond. I always dug Signals.

On a tangent, if you haven't already, check out the movie "I Love You Man" with Paul Rudd and Jason Segal. The movie is not about Rush, but the two main characters are Rush fans. Nothing ground breaking, but it's a pretty funny movie. It amused me anyway.

Signals....

....is my favourite Rush record too! Currently at the Golden Knights game. Go Knights Go!!
https://youtu.be/zcqPaR3jMHs
....two minutes in.

Signals...

...lot of time on the school bus, high as a kite, blasting that album through my Sony Walkman at ear damaging levels. Good times..

Last 5

First but not last. Last 5. 1. The canned heat cookbook 2. Donovan-Troubadour 64'-76'. 3. CSNY 1974 tour. 4. Jimi hendrix band of gypsys 5. Wagner- Tristan und isolde.

Iko = Man Smart, Woman Smarter

They're the same song . . .

Kind of like Shakedown and Feel Like a Stranger are the same song.

And the women ARE smarter, as I've come to realize . . .

Jockamo (Iko Iko)

Jockamo was originally written by James "Sugarboy" Crawford in 1953, and the Dixie Cups recorded a song called Iko Iko in 1965 that stole the rhythm and most of the lyrics straight from Jockamo. In 1967, Crawford settled a lawsuit which gave him a cut of royalties on performances, but lost any claim to authorship. Even worse, the Dixie Cups sued somebody 30 years later for claiming authorship, and they established sole authorship, even though they had ripped it off. Man Smart uses a similar rhythm, which Iko/Jockamo is a Cajun beat, and Man Smart uses a Calypso beat, which are very similar and the Bo Diddley beat is pretty close to it as well. Man Smart was written in the 1930s, but became popular in 1956 when Harry Belafonte did it, three years after after Crawford wrote and recorded Jockamo. And the Bo Diddley beat is from 1955, which Buddy Holly stole in 1957 for Not Fade Away (though Norman Petty, Holly's producer stole a writing credit on the song by simply putting his name on it).

Stranger and Shakedown are quite different to me. Feel Like a Stranger is very similar to Fly Like an Eagle though, except for the move to C#m on the second part of the riff.

Spoiler alert...10/19/71

I listened to 10/19/71 again yesterday-it never fails to impress. The first show that Keith played and no less than 6 new songs. The country rock songs rattle along at a fair old pace, and the Other One is the show case jam-unique with Keith on organ. Its not perfect, some of it seems a bit rushed, but there is a real sense that the band has started a new beginning, and knows it.
Great period, Fall 1971, with many top shows-some of which have been Dave's Picks of course. But not necessarily the best shows.

The women are smarter?

Perhaps.

But many of them are out of their GAHDAM MINDS.

Signals

Got it for Christmas 1982. I was 10. Only knew Tom Sawyer from the year before, and Subdivisions was on the radio a lot. I used to pop on side 1 and listen to Subdivisions and The Analog Kid, then put on Who Are You. By '86 I was all caught up and saw them on the Power Windows Tour (first of many). Signals is one of my favs. Just saw a great bootkeg vid from Montreal night 2 of the Signals tour on youtube. I say great in that it is okay sound with Neil high in the mix and far away grainy video from directly across the stage second level. So you can't make out their faces or anything but it's great because the sound is good enough and it's nostalgic. And you can see Neil work the acoustic drums for the last time before he started to integrate electronic drums into his kit. They to seven out of eight tracks from signals and stuff like the camera eye and Xanadu. And it's just incredible watching Neil work. Not for everyone, but definitely worth checking out a few songs if you're a rush fan. The setlist is un freakin real

Charlie3, as your attorney I advise you pick up 2112 ASAP.

I would also like to see them release 7/25/74 soon, and 6/23/74, so we can have all of the '74 Dark Stars (we have a partial of 6/23 on So Many Roads). But after listening to 6/30/74 last night on soundboard, I say go for it.

Daverock, I listen to that show couple times. Pretty cool listen to Keith play the organ. His first dark stars on Dave's Picks 3. Agree all the way, it's a great time for the band, and a nice show to check out.

Women Smarter

I always liked the flow and groove in Iko better, the jams seemed more fluid as well. Women are Smarter was another one of those songs that seemed to come in the rotation just a touch too much when I was seeing shows.

Just my opinion.

As for Rush, one of the first concerts I saw somewhere between 80 and 82?? It was at the Capital Centre.. Looking over the setlists, my guess is 81 because they played a good bit of 2112. I saw them before the GD.. just once. Every time they came around I tried to see them and failed for a host in hindsight poor and invalid of reasons. Well, at least I got to see them once.

As for the subject matter for Women are Smarter.. yin and yang, without the counter balance of one the other can wreak much havoc.

Fall 71

Speaking of fall 71, does anyone know what’s up with the Real Gone/Discogs rerelease?
They were spitting them out pretty regularly backwards through3.4. 3.3 was released but took a while. 3.2 should of come out by now? I have copies but would like to get the “real” ones to fill in the collection....

Re: Real Gone Bonus Discs

I would love to see them re-release some of the bonus discs. I have them all, but some (many) are as good or better than the source release. I'd love to see more that missed them way back get them.

I guess with respect to bonus discs they should call themselves Really Gone in stead of Real Gone.

2112

I realized that I spaced that one in my earlier post, I actually had, and still have, 2112 on vinyl.

30th anniversary

happy 30th anniversary to one of my favorite runs - 10/18-10/20 1989 at the (you guessed it) Spectrum!

I used to think we'd never see these shows released, but I truly think there are only a handful of years the dead can really blow out releases from individual years (69, 72, 73, 74, 77, 89, 90) so I'm still holding out hope!

October 16>October 20 1974 Winterland Shows 45th anniv. week

I don't know if we have ever ranked as our favorites on here but here are mine.

10/18/74 Set II out of Phil and Ned, Dark Star and Morning Dew
10/16/74 Bob's bday plus Playin Phil & Ned into Wharf Rat> Eyes, reverse of 9/11/74 London Jam
10/19/74 Great first set!!! Uncle John's, Tomorrow is Forever, Sugar Magnolia through Sunshine Daydream
10/17/74 Keith's piano lid crashing down!!! Awesome He's Gone>Other One>Spanish Jam>MLB Jam>Other One
10/20/74 Cold Rain & Snow, NFA, return of Good Lovin, Half Step #2 encore

So many good songs... the jams out of Phil & Ned are amazing... Have a good weekend everyone.. Bob t

Winterland Anniversary Shows

These are an absolutely wonderful run of shows with great renditions of many songs. The 10/19 Eyes is my favorite, The China > Rider from 10/17 is ripping and there is monster Playin' clocking in at the 30 min plus mark. However as many have said the 2nd set on 10/18 is the best. Leave it to the Dead to make the 2nd set on 3rd show of a 5 night run to be so epic. It truly is the epicenter of the whole run and it especially represents much of the band's career to that point.

80s Fan

What he said! Boo-yah! Come on Dave...tap,tap,tap, (that’s the sound of my foot tapping 😃

Got 10-18-74 going

Movie Soundtrack version (I grouped individual shows together).

I also have the boots but the official version sounds better.

Time to release the entire run (Plangentized) along with all available video on BluRay.
Next year’s Box Dave!

Rush

I highly recommend the Rush 40 BluRay Box.

I don't subscribe....

.... although I probably should, but regardless, Bobby Weir made this months Men's Health magazine. Hey Now!!
https://i.imgur.com/8bRt30l.jpg

Mens Monthly

I made last months Beer Bong Special Edition cover. Made my mom proud.

Winterland 74

The remastered and expanded Grateful Dead Movie in Blu-ray is one of my favorites and I love the bonus material. There is just something about that opening when they break into the live performance of US Blues and the crowd is going nuts, just love it. Jerry is so thin.
If I could go back in time I would for sure be hanging out with the guy in the overhauls with the chicklets! 🤠.

And the five disc release is fantastic. If you don't have it, get it. $29 on Amazon and better than other 74 out of production releases.

Deadvikes

Thanks for the reminder. I just picked up this movie on amazon as we talk. I lost the vhs tape years ago. Plus the 1-1/2 hour extras makes it a no brainer. Just like me.