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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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August 12, 2019 - 11:11am

#1521

daverock

Joined:
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Trips Around The Sun

My favourite show is the one from 1967. I have only played the 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 and 1990 shows this year, and I have enjoyed all of them all. After 1967, I would say 1968 and 1969 are the next two favourites. Maybe 1970, too- brilliant Other One there. I am sure the 1972, 1973 and 1974 ones are exemplary, too, but I cannot honestly recollect what they are like at this moment in time.

Its also nice digging in the corners, as Jim suggests, and finding a shining star where you least expect it.
August 12, 2019 - 10:34am

#1522

Deadheadbrewer

Joined:
February 2, 2010

Giants

Is going to look great on the shelf, feel great in the hands, and sound AMAZING. I am Grateful.

LOVE the 1967 from TTATS--best show ever? The '68 is fantastic. And then I am grateful for all the later shows in that box, particularly '82-'84 and '93-'95. The 1969-1978 shows are good, but we have so much from those years that my ears are thankful for the opportunity to hear sweet shows from the years we haven't heard much from.

If I were a robot, couldn't I easily work around a basic CAPTCHA?
August 12, 2019 - 9:24am

#1523

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

30 Trips

My favorites mirror some of those already mentioned.. especially 67, 70, 69 and (surprise) 74. 75 is very interesting also.

..but for me it's those shows that are off the beaten path that I sort of get the most mileage from.. 84 and 87 for example might just be the best shows played in their respective years and are super high energy. I could use a few less patches, but I enjoy the box very much.

As mentioned on the Dave's Picks 31 thread, it looks like Dead.net got hacked and had to pay £73.92 in ransomware COD to some UPS guy with a Russian accent. Strange days..

Have a great week all..

LMG, check your PM.

Oh, can't leave off 68, 76, 77, 78, 71, 72, 73.. Riverbend 85 is fun. 86 has a really sweet Comes a Time out of TOO. 91 with Branford.. 67 and 70 are my favorites though, if I had to pick.
August 11, 2019 - 12:01pm

#1524

alvarhanso

Joined:
January 16, 2014

30 Trips favorites

11/10/67, 2/22/69, 4/25/77, 10/20/68, 4/15/70 mainly listen to the Drums> Soul Sacrificish Jam> The Other One, but great Man Man Man's World, too.
August 11, 2019 - 11:59am

#1525

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

30 Trips favs

Hard for me to narrow to just 3 because they are all nice shows.

I pretty much listen to everything I have from the Dead at least once per year on or near anniversary dates (for the most part), but here's 3 I like...

9/10/91 MSG
10/26/89 Miami Arena
9/18/74 Dijon

...but I also like these 3...

2/22/69 Dream Bowl
10/20/68 Greek
10/27/79 Cape Cod

...and of course EVERYTHING else.

I couldn't see myself discounting any show from this set. All have plenty to like for me.

As someone who came onboard during the 3rd decade of the band's existence, my initial preferences were the Pigpen and Brent era's. As I've dug deeper, mainly thanks to these releases, I like it all. Every era.

Of the 50 shows I saw with Jerry, a few in '95 were kind of rough, especially the last two at Soldier Field. If released I'd still want them. Even the US Blues that Jerry pretty much gave up on at the second to last show.

At the time of going to shows, the only other time (besides a few in '95) I felt the show was subpar was 3/13/93. The follow-up to Rosemont which I would agree was a nice run. Upon further listening many years later I find that even this show was really good. Terrapin through the end was top notch, including one of the GREAT Stella Blue's.

My main hangup has always been lack of variety in official releases, and now that is no longer an issue. Love it all but my sweet spot is 65-95 with emphasis on '87-'91.

Budgetary constraints has limited my ability to be a completionist, and I'm quite a few behind, but at least try to keep up as best as possible as new things come out. Missed out on much of the Record Store Day releases.
August 11, 2019 - 9:25am

#1526

bob t

Joined:
November 21, 2007

@ROBBZ favorite 30 Trips shows

I find myself playing 9/28/75 Lindley Meadows the most....probably 9/18/74 Dijon France and the 3/18/71 Fox Theatre a lot... hope that helps.... there are so many good choices... bob t
August 11, 2019 - 8:26am

#1527

RobbZ

Joined:
October 25, 2011

I'm sure this has been asked before....but

****First off--LMG, stay positive and get well soon****

Friends, looking for some feedback on the 30 Trips Box Set...in your opinion, what are your favorite 2-3 shows from the box. Appreciate your responses...
August 11, 2019 - 5:11am

#1528

Gratefulhan

Joined:
June 6, 2007

Shows - location, years, era.

I got in the bus in mid 1992, and from then until 1995 I only had the exposure to the music from the few shows I attended, and the few live releases that were out, one and Two from the Vault, Bears Choice, Without a Net, Dick's Picks 1. I was also able to acquire some tapes. Basically I was taking it all in, loving all of it of course. Yet I do recall at my first show, when Bobby sang Lovelight i was little thrown off - yes I was used to hearing Pigpen on that tune. The result was that I just didn't have a good knowledge of shows or eras and was certainly lacking in the numbers tapes I had listened too.

So I did my Dead scholarly work after Jerry died, because I was compelled to get as many shows as I could. I sought out getting more tapes and thankfully Dick's Picks kept coming out. Now even then I knew that the shows from "back in the day" were more coveted, or at least that was what more experienced heads told me. I remember a dude from college who only listened to shows from 73-74... he was pretty obsessed with it, but I can see why. So I got every tape I could and listened to them all. Many of my tapes were from 69 -78 as it turned out. I became most familiar that time frame and over time I developed that as a preference. Of course I was exposed to many of the standout out shows: 3/1/69, 4/28/71, 5/8/77, 7/8/78...etc

However over time and especially in recent years I have been way more open to shows from all eras/years. I still feel like there are a few years that may not appeal to me, but I am open to anything. It doesn't matter where they played as long as the music is good, well I should say good for the time. For example, I will certainly judge show from 85 on its own merits and not compare it to a 77 show.

At this point I will buy any just about anything TPTB give us. Although I may have expanded my horizons over the years , still I feel the same as I did all those years ago in '95, when I valued every show because everything came to end. I still feel this way and now we have had many shows be given the official release. In terms of volume The Dead/Dave L./Rhino have not quite cuaght up with the tapers/archive.org obviously. Yet I am happy and appreciative of what Dave L and the crew have given us and I feel like they are doing a great job.
August 11, 2019 - 5:02am

#1529

smyler

Joined:
November 9, 2007

Little desire to hear those shows

I’ve a similar view to Daverock on this. As a U.K. follower of the Dead I only saw them twice; the last two nights of the 1990 European Tour. Both shows were great, particularly the last night.

Without A Net had only been out a few weeks and I loved the wider sound palette they were using (midi I guess). There were also two or three incendiary performances on the album, albeit along with a few lacklustre ones, and I decided I really liked this modern Dead sound. Up until the I’d only listened to official releases. I had a few tapes, but I’d never really played them as I didn’t like cassettes.

One From The Vault came out in 1991. The sound palette was more limited but the performance was uniformly strong and Garcia’s voice sounded great. I stuck with the just official releases which became more plentiful as the years went on, covering most eras of the band. I yearned for more of the sparkling midi sound of WAN. I’ve already mentioned that I loved Terrapin Limited, but couldn’t find anything at all to enthuse about in Dozin’ At The Knick. Subsequent mid to late 80s and 90s shows continued to disappoint whereas I found several of the earlier releases, from the 70s, to exceptional.

The more I listened to release of all eras, the more it became apparent that, whilst you can find good things to listen to from all eras of the dead, the consistency of performance started to deteriorate in the late 70s and this only accelerated from the early 80s. This view is simply my own, not born out of the era I started listening to the band in or the shows I attended but out of what I hear in the Dead’s numerous official live releases.

So, whilst I loved the shows I saw in 1990, I’ve no desire to see these released. Having heard so many disappointing releases from the 80s and 90s, why should I believe these shows will stand up to the scrutiny of repeated listening any better than most of the others?
August 11, 2019 - 1:39am

#1530

daverock

Joined:
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I was there. I think.

I am not sure its acceptable to answer your own question, but....
Of all the 1980s shows, I would be most interested in getting copies of the two I went to-or shows from the two tours they were a part-Europe March and October 1981, than any of the others.
Similarly, of all the Bruce and Vince shows I would be most interested in getting copies of the three I attended in October/November 1990 than any of the others.

But...and its a big but....I would prefer to get any unreleased show from the 1974 Europe tour than any of the five I went to. Or any show from 1974 and earlier, come to that. I just prefer the music played during those years.

I have this attitude for most of the rock/blues/pop.. whatever... music I listen to. I much prefer the era from 1965-1975 than what came after. There are exceptions of course-but I probably listen to more music from those years than any other.

John Perry Barlow

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89 (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli - the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Dave's Pick 32?

3/24/73 Philly Spectrum seems to be the final release of this year.

Gimme Some Lovin'

For something a little different try Gimme Some Lovin' from Traffic's live album, Welcome to the Canteen. Good chance you will get up and dance!

Take care...

re: Sudbury

Carlo...that's me in Sudbury (VGuy = Vegas Guy; aka Senator-in-the-making) - we recently moved here about a month and a half ago. Naughty storm last night indeed; we now live in the middle of the woods and the trees were a-swayin' for sure. Our driveway is littered with tree-fallen detritus.

Speaking of the move, we've finally nailed down a date for our Homecoming Bash - Saturday November 9th. Any locals on this board who may have an interest in a swing-through, open invite!

Welcome to the Canteen is a great album; my first Traffic.

Sixtus

Iko vs/ Aiko

First recorded by James "Sugar Boy" Crawford in 1953 as Jock-A-Mo. Copyrighted as "Iko"
Here's some interesting background though; "Aiko" may be closer to the original Mardi-Gras chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj6-irrsnsw

Aiko v Iko

Iko seems logical, not Aiko

I had a button that read Aiko Aiko, with an Eye of Horus on it.

I had a coworker named Aiko (her true name), so I gave the button to her.

Jim, hot tuna, money & this damn site!

I can not afford to come to this site anymore! Jim, you had me look up And Futhermore, simply because you said "out of print",,, a challenge I had to investigate. And there, on Amazon, used, like new, out of Georgia for only 20 bucks. Had to buy! Checked my Hot Tuna folder and found woefully under represented. So I checked out Burgers, said WTF and dropped in cart. Then this box set comes up, everything a sucker like me wants. Limited and gimmicky, WITH RARE photos, not the common ones you have in your daddy's bottom drawer. So this week alone on Hot Tuna you bastards have made me spend about 125 bucks.

Thanks!??

box set infor

Limited numbered 12 x 12 LP size box set containing eight original albums on hi-def CDs in cardboard mini LP sleeves: Hot Tuna, First Pull Up Then Pull Down, Burgers, The Phosphorescent Rat, Yellow Fever, Americas Choice, Hoppkorv and Double Dose (two CD set includes the full live performance). The boxset also includes an LP size luxury 28 pages booklet with liner notes by Richie Unterberger, rare photos and memorabilia, reproduction of the original eight LPs album art in a 12 format and original Art 1 x 2 tour poster designed exclusively for this boxset by legendary graphic and poster designer Dennis Loren.

Hot Tuna....

....for $9.95 per month for Spotify Dennis, you can get a shitload of live shows!!
And yes. Vguy is born and raised in Sin City. Moved to Elko, Nevada for three years then realized i hate the cold. Went back to being a desert rat. Plus, Eguy doesn't have the same ring.

Sixtus

Ah. I did not remember who, so I took a shot. Lots of damage around here and no power. Thanks for the invite too.

vguy and the spot-i-fied

Has anyone come up with a way to record what you are listening to on spotify? Short of having a reel to reel recorder plugged into your pc.

Money and Box Sets

You know what they say, Dennis - a collector and his money are soon parted.

Recording from Spotify....

....not that i know of.

Box finally arrived in…

Box finally arrived in Scotland today number 05913. Import charges of £44 but overall will still be cheaper than buying off ebay when one appears. Glad the box is smaller as I have run out of room on top of all my units. Listened to the first show this afternoon while doing other things and enjoyed it but looking forward to a proper listen with headphones. Happy listening for the next few days and will save the Blu ray for last.

Dennis

Audacity is free software that will record audio from your computer.

https://www.audacityteam.org/

But, I believe that streaming audio is highly compressed, possibly lossy.

Box in Germany

#8801 arrived late this afternoon at the Isle of Fehmarn in Northern Germany.
UPS charged total EUR 45,86 for VAT, Taxes and their rip off fee (EUR 11,50).
Box looks fine but half of the CDs are full of cratches. Checking the worst one
at the moment sounds fine, no skippings.
Takes 3 delivery days this time from the US to my hometown.
Waiting now for DP32.
By the way: Last five on my players:
Dead - East Rutherfords 06/17/91
Dead- By the time we got to Woodstock (Vinyl)
Dead - Boston Tea Party 12/31/69
ABB - Bear's Sonic (Fillmore 70) Vinyl
Neil Young - Hamburg 1989 Vinyl

Source of eBay listed releases

Theft from the new warehouse.
(Pure speculation on my part).

Found this on the message board for problems with GD store orders.

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August 30, 2019 - 4:29pm#2
WHISKYHAWK

Joined:
November 27, 2013

Still Waiting For DaP 30 To Be Delivered
Anyone else having this issue?

Per Dead.net Customer Service, 'Our new warehouse has advised that they have been unable to locate any numbered copies of Dave’s Picks Volume 30. With that confirmation, we have decided to produce a small, separately-numbered run of this title. We will use these copies to replace your missing or damaged Dave’s Picks Volume 30 shipment. Our production team has advised that the new, limited-edition run will be available in 2 months. "

Well, it's been two months and no word, no communication. Very frustrating.

——————-

How do you lose a batch of numbered copies?

Last 5

Last Five
GD - 2/27/69
Dire Wolves - Grow Towards The Light
Rush - Permanent Waves
Jethro Tull - Stand Up
Sly and the Family Stone - Stand

Re: Dennis

Ha!! For what it's worth, I really like Furthurmore, honestly my favorite Hot Tuna CD or I wouldn't have brought it up. The first 8 or 9 songs are simply outstanding and it's an off the radar sort of release. Great album art too.. notice the fish on the cover does not have a beard nor a skeleton head.

One other ill-related artwork comment.. I love the CD art on Dave's Picks 32. The real attraction is skeleton is peering into a bright orb of some sort that gives him clarity into the Spectrum. So bright in fact you really cannot tell if the skeleton has a beard or not.. so all the fans of bearded skeletons should be fine with it.. on the other hand, if the skeleton has a beard, you cannot see it. Win/Win.

I don't have Spotify, but doing a quick google search it looks like there's a product called Spotify Downloader that streams to file. I bet lossy though, most of these are. For what it's worth, WinAmp lets you stream lossless to file from the archive. Not that I would ever do that.. All the soundboards circulate pretty freely, you just gotta poke around.

Regarding Hot Tuna's Furthermore cover art....

....that was by Tim Truman, who did the art for Dave's Picks volumes 5-8.

Tim Truman

Assuming you meant Dave's Picks 5 - 8. Note, no bearded skeletons although there is one skeleton with wings. I think that one slid under the radar.

Tim Truman....

....yes. i meant Daves's. Corrected.

Science, like nature, must also be tamed

Great album Charlie3. I think Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures sound exactly the same. Like they could have been a double album.

I had seen Rush on every tour since Power Windows, and at that point in their touring career they didn't really go too deep into their "classic" albums. The tour would consist of 2/3 or more of the album they were supporting, plus all of their radio hits. There would usually be one somewhat deeper cut, like Xanadu or La Villa Strangiato or even the Prelude to Hemispheres (all truncated to some extent).

And then along came the Test for Echo tour, and one of the greatest live rock bands in the world kicked it up a notch, threw away the standard two hour concert plus opening act nobody was interested in, and they started playing two sets with an intermission in between. Total amount of Rush music went up from two hours to two and a half hours, maybe even a little bit more. And the deeper cut started coming out. I had second row seats the first time I saw them on this tour. As if the unexpected full rendition of 2112 to end the first set wasn't enough, they blew us away with Natural Science from permanent waves in the second set. That song hadn't been played since permanent waves came out, around 16 years prior. And there were no live albums with that track. Hope you got to see that one. They began to play it often after that, right up until retirement.

Rush

Keithfan2112, yes, Permanent Waves is a great album from start to finish. I was a casual Rush fan early in high school, early '80's, before getting into the Dead. I had Signals and Moving Pictures on cassette and Exit Stage Left on vinyl, which I still have. Listened to a bit of Yes during that time as well. When I switched to CD's I picked up a Rush greatest hits collection and didn't really listen to a lot of Rush. Actually, Kiethfan2112, it was some of your Rush related posts that got me thinking I ought to start filling in the Rush collection and revisiting Moving Pictures and Exit Stage Left. At this point I have everything from Permanent Waves to Signals. I suspect it's just a matter of time till I pick up most or all of Rush's albums up to Signals, maybe beyond. I always dug Signals.

On a tangent, if you haven't already, check out the movie "I Love You Man" with Paul Rudd and Jason Segal. The movie is not about Rush, but the two main characters are Rush fans. Nothing ground breaking, but it's a pretty funny movie. It amused me anyway.

Signals....

....is my favourite Rush record too! Currently at the Golden Knights game. Go Knights Go!!
https://youtu.be/zcqPaR3jMHs
....two minutes in.

Signals...

...lot of time on the school bus, high as a kite, blasting that album through my Sony Walkman at ear damaging levels. Good times..

Last 5

First but not last. Last 5. 1. The canned heat cookbook 2. Donovan-Troubadour 64'-76'. 3. CSNY 1974 tour. 4. Jimi hendrix band of gypsys 5. Wagner- Tristan und isolde.

Iko = Man Smart, Woman Smarter

They're the same song . . .

Kind of like Shakedown and Feel Like a Stranger are the same song.

And the women ARE smarter, as I've come to realize . . .

Jockamo (Iko Iko)

Jockamo was originally written by James "Sugarboy" Crawford in 1953, and the Dixie Cups recorded a song called Iko Iko in 1965 that stole the rhythm and most of the lyrics straight from Jockamo. In 1967, Crawford settled a lawsuit which gave him a cut of royalties on performances, but lost any claim to authorship. Even worse, the Dixie Cups sued somebody 30 years later for claiming authorship, and they established sole authorship, even though they had ripped it off. Man Smart uses a similar rhythm, which Iko/Jockamo is a Cajun beat, and Man Smart uses a Calypso beat, which are very similar and the Bo Diddley beat is pretty close to it as well. Man Smart was written in the 1930s, but became popular in 1956 when Harry Belafonte did it, three years after after Crawford wrote and recorded Jockamo. And the Bo Diddley beat is from 1955, which Buddy Holly stole in 1957 for Not Fade Away (though Norman Petty, Holly's producer stole a writing credit on the song by simply putting his name on it).

Stranger and Shakedown are quite different to me. Feel Like a Stranger is very similar to Fly Like an Eagle though, except for the move to C#m on the second part of the riff.

Spoiler alert...10/19/71

I listened to 10/19/71 again yesterday-it never fails to impress. The first show that Keith played and no less than 6 new songs. The country rock songs rattle along at a fair old pace, and the Other One is the show case jam-unique with Keith on organ. Its not perfect, some of it seems a bit rushed, but there is a real sense that the band has started a new beginning, and knows it.
Great period, Fall 1971, with many top shows-some of which have been Dave's Picks of course. But not necessarily the best shows.

The women are smarter?

Perhaps.

But many of them are out of their GAHDAM MINDS.

Signals

Got it for Christmas 1982. I was 10. Only knew Tom Sawyer from the year before, and Subdivisions was on the radio a lot. I used to pop on side 1 and listen to Subdivisions and The Analog Kid, then put on Who Are You. By '86 I was all caught up and saw them on the Power Windows Tour (first of many). Signals is one of my favs. Just saw a great bootkeg vid from Montreal night 2 of the Signals tour on youtube. I say great in that it is okay sound with Neil high in the mix and far away grainy video from directly across the stage second level. So you can't make out their faces or anything but it's great because the sound is good enough and it's nostalgic. And you can see Neil work the acoustic drums for the last time before he started to integrate electronic drums into his kit. They to seven out of eight tracks from signals and stuff like the camera eye and Xanadu. And it's just incredible watching Neil work. Not for everyone, but definitely worth checking out a few songs if you're a rush fan. The setlist is un freakin real

Charlie3, as your attorney I advise you pick up 2112 ASAP.

I would also like to see them release 7/25/74 soon, and 6/23/74, so we can have all of the '74 Dark Stars (we have a partial of 6/23 on So Many Roads). But after listening to 6/30/74 last night on soundboard, I say go for it.

Daverock, I listen to that show couple times. Pretty cool listen to Keith play the organ. His first dark stars on Dave's Picks 3. Agree all the way, it's a great time for the band, and a nice show to check out.

Women Smarter

I always liked the flow and groove in Iko better, the jams seemed more fluid as well. Women are Smarter was another one of those songs that seemed to come in the rotation just a touch too much when I was seeing shows.

Just my opinion.

As for Rush, one of the first concerts I saw somewhere between 80 and 82?? It was at the Capital Centre.. Looking over the setlists, my guess is 81 because they played a good bit of 2112. I saw them before the GD.. just once. Every time they came around I tried to see them and failed for a host in hindsight poor and invalid of reasons. Well, at least I got to see them once.

As for the subject matter for Women are Smarter.. yin and yang, without the counter balance of one the other can wreak much havoc.

Fall 71

Speaking of fall 71, does anyone know what’s up with the Real Gone/Discogs rerelease?
They were spitting them out pretty regularly backwards through3.4. 3.3 was released but took a while. 3.2 should of come out by now? I have copies but would like to get the “real” ones to fill in the collection....

Re: Real Gone Bonus Discs

I would love to see them re-release some of the bonus discs. I have them all, but some (many) are as good or better than the source release. I'd love to see more that missed them way back get them.

I guess with respect to bonus discs they should call themselves Really Gone in stead of Real Gone.

2112

I realized that I spaced that one in my earlier post, I actually had, and still have, 2112 on vinyl.

30th anniversary

happy 30th anniversary to one of my favorite runs - 10/18-10/20 1989 at the (you guessed it) Spectrum!

I used to think we'd never see these shows released, but I truly think there are only a handful of years the dead can really blow out releases from individual years (69, 72, 73, 74, 77, 89, 90) so I'm still holding out hope!

October 16>October 20 1974 Winterland Shows 45th anniv. week

I don't know if we have ever ranked as our favorites on here but here are mine.

10/18/74 Set II out of Phil and Ned, Dark Star and Morning Dew
10/16/74 Bob's bday plus Playin Phil & Ned into Wharf Rat> Eyes, reverse of 9/11/74 London Jam
10/19/74 Great first set!!! Uncle John's, Tomorrow is Forever, Sugar Magnolia through Sunshine Daydream
10/17/74 Keith's piano lid crashing down!!! Awesome He's Gone>Other One>Spanish Jam>MLB Jam>Other One
10/20/74 Cold Rain & Snow, NFA, return of Good Lovin, Half Step #2 encore

So many good songs... the jams out of Phil & Ned are amazing... Have a good weekend everyone.. Bob t

Winterland Anniversary Shows

These are an absolutely wonderful run of shows with great renditions of many songs. The 10/19 Eyes is my favorite, The China > Rider from 10/17 is ripping and there is monster Playin' clocking in at the 30 min plus mark. However as many have said the 2nd set on 10/18 is the best. Leave it to the Dead to make the 2nd set on 3rd show of a 5 night run to be so epic. It truly is the epicenter of the whole run and it especially represents much of the band's career to that point.

80s Fan

What he said! Boo-yah! Come on Dave...tap,tap,tap, (that’s the sound of my foot tapping 😃

Got 10-18-74 going

Movie Soundtrack version (I grouped individual shows together).

I also have the boots but the official version sounds better.

Time to release the entire run (Plangentized) along with all available video on BluRay.
Next year’s Box Dave!

Rush

I highly recommend the Rush 40 BluRay Box.

I don't subscribe....

.... although I probably should, but regardless, Bobby Weir made this months Men's Health magazine. Hey Now!!
https://i.imgur.com/8bRt30l.jpg

Mens Monthly

I made last months Beer Bong Special Edition cover. Made my mom proud.

Winterland 74

The remastered and expanded Grateful Dead Movie in Blu-ray is one of my favorites and I love the bonus material. There is just something about that opening when they break into the live performance of US Blues and the crowd is going nuts, just love it. Jerry is so thin.
If I could go back in time I would for sure be hanging out with the guy in the overhauls with the chicklets! 🤠.

And the five disc release is fantastic. If you don't have it, get it. $29 on Amazon and better than other 74 out of production releases.

Deadvikes

Thanks for the reminder. I just picked up this movie on amazon as we talk. I lost the vhs tape years ago. Plus the 1-1/2 hour extras makes it a no brainer. Just like me.