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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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    Less is more?

    Deadvikes - how about if they had played more and sang less? I never saw them in 73, I should say, I am just going off the live cds and tapes I have heard.

    Curiously, 1969 shows work in the opposite way. They started off by refining the music played during 1968, and in the process created some of the most sublime music ever to come out of an amplifier. From June onwards, though, they start moving away from the jams towards more song based sets.

    Typically, the Dave's Picks released from 1969, like the ones from 1973, have been from the weaker half of the year. In fact there have been literally no releases on Dave's Picks from this first golden age of Dead shows, which for me ran from about Fall 1967 until approximately May 1969. Maybe Dave prefers the songs to the jams.

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    Several of you had interesting, diverse comments on....I can also understand Daverocks POV and I even feel that a bit for 72 also. But I don’t need to always hear whole shows, and the meat & potatoes stuff in the second sets for me is so strong that I don’t get hung up on the 1st sets. Huge Dark Stars, great HCS, those awesome Eyes with the cool jazz jams etc. Anyone who knows me, knows the weirder the better for me, and the Jazzy Dead is tops.
    Spring 73 I pretty much knew nothing about until 4/2 came out. At first I was disappointed only because it was something at the time that wasn’t on my short list. But like any release now I got past that closed minded horse shit once I “listened to the music play”.....then I scored the Scooby Doo house which so far, if pressed, I’d prolly call my favorite Dave’s, but I still haven’t heard them all yet,....I guess what I’m trying to say is the more I am familiar with spring 73, the more I dig it, so I’m really stoked for 32....Summer 73 I’m still pretty ignorant about. I have PNW, but haven’t really had a chance to get down and dirty with yet, and I’ve heard 6/10/73 off the archive, in the background while working one day, and though I liked it, it didn’t blow me away like the fall/winter 73 shows do. That tour has always been perhaps my favorite, if I really, really was forced to pick only one. So yeah, count me as one who’d love more from late 73...but I’m good with pretty much any 73 that kicks ass, hell I’ll take any show that has the golden yummies!

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    Both! Lol I’ve always liked M. Griffin, and I’ve seen Sonething Wild, I recall it wasnt awesome, but pretty good, but I was referring to the Actress Pamela Gibley, who also stared in twin peaks. But since you’ve made me think about it, I guess the whole idea of the domestic robot, or like the main protagonist, specifically, the cherry 2000 model of domestic robot! Which is the premise for why he goes to such lengths to fix/replace her. Here’s the trailer....
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBOiZ-ukS7Q

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    Too many songs? I don't know. I never went to a show and thought man, I wish they played less. We always wanted more and in 73 they gave you way more. And I agree Jim, the Boston Garden show is one of the best. Let's hope The Spectrum tops it.

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    Where are you David duryea?

    I was checking out 7/78 box comments and David was as interesting as he is annoying. We need you back on the next box set.

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    .... haven't seen that gem in quite a while. Last time I saw it, my then six year old son walked into the middle of it and asked, "why is she wearing all that black stuff? Looks uncomfortable."
    PNW '73. They sound just fine to me. Thankful I'm not cursed with the audiophile ear. Otherwise, I'd never be satisfied with 45 year old recordings.

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    Never saw it.

    Oro - Not sure if it was the robot or the girl that appealed to you. If it was the latter, check out Something Wild. Cool Melanie Griffith movie.

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    I get what you are saying Daverock.. the first sets in '73 are ginormous and seem to be used as testing grounds for their newer material. But I still dig it. 4/2 has risen to one of my favorites.

    If you look at most years, or more specifically the years when they were creating new songs and rehearsing. They seemed to take some time off usually big periods between January and April.. They seemed to use it to rehearse and work out the arrangements of new songs, and often to begin cutting studio tracks or at least finalize the arrangements and get the new songs ready for the road. Not a perfect rule, but I believe it's mostly true. So the spring of '73 got all the new material they were keeping from Warner Brothers. So there is a ton of new material and some of it (e.g. Wave That Flag) was not as fully developed as one would like.

    Still, it's a creative peak of sorts and I enjoy it because underneath it all, it's still really good but more importantly it lets us take a look under the hood at their creative process as it was evolving.

    Just my opinion, I could be wrong. I do like '73 though. There's some great stuff there.

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    It wasn't that long ago we were complaining about the 8 month gap in releases between February and October 1973 (DP 28 => DP 19). Now the gaps been filled and we're complaining there's not enough from original overstacked period. First world problems lol.

    I jest Dave Rock. It has been a while since we've seen something from the autumn and winter, but we did complain about that gap for a long time.

    I think the quality of the shows from the Spring Dicks and Daves Picks are really really good. There's a couple of really good Dark Stars and Playing in the Bands. Several of those great Loose Lucies, where the Autumn and Winter only have one. I would argue that the Eyes of the Worlds are better on those Spring releases than the two we got on the Winterland box set. The big missing thing in the spring releases is the full Weather Report Suite. But hey it wasn't ready what can you do.

    Those PNW 1973 shows don't sound too good to me. I don't know if it was the person recording the shows or what but they just don't sound as good and I find them hard to listen to so I agree with you there. The first one is decent and has that great Bird Song.

    But have you listened to The White Album lately? Tell me that doesn't just get better every year.

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    Deadheadbrewer - I also get much more from the Fall 1973 shows than the ones from the first half of the year - in which I would include the epic summer shows.
    I have just had a look at the 1973 Daves Picks so far released, and it seems we have already had two from Spring of the year, with one to follow shortly. And both those shows already released are bogged down with short songs.
    We also had three shows in last years box from summer 73. Seems odd that this great era for Dead shows, Fall 73, has been overlooked for so long.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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... I was asked this question before right around the time before the shipments went out and I shared have the same opinion ,so did thedeads team before production. Whaat is the running time is it four minutes and 10 seconds is it four minutes and eight seconds four minutes and seven seconds or minutes and three seconds lol primo Post andbthinking sixtus &keithfan! ;)...Rock On my Brothers and sisters have a grateful day God bless 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 08:07

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There is little doubt in my mind that if the 4 minute passage had come before the 20 minute jam that it would have been tracked as a 24 minute Dark Star

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 08:39

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I find myself listening to the November 1973 Winterland box the most. I know there are only 3 shows, but I tend to gravitate towards this run more than any other!! The cold part of fall has arrived here in Rhode Island!! Have a good weekend everyone..... 11/9/73 Going on one day early!!! Bob t

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:13

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SMBH; love that song, Merle’s is great but I think Jer makes it his own and thus takes it to another level.
It’s like watching old yeller, how the hell can you really listen to this, especially after some psychedelic, emotional roller coaster space voyage, and not get choked up. Like Jim said about third person....imagine you’ve spent that kind of time with another human being, no matter what their crime, and so you’re kinda going through all that with the person, truly heavy shit, which is powerful to imagine. I understand some folks might not be comfortable with such heaviness, and yes the guy did a terrible thing, but hey, isn’t that the one thing ALL humans have in comman....we’re all fuckups and do horrible things to each other? So to stand in that persons shoes emotionally for a few minutes is really powerful. To offer that tortured soul that one “kind favor” in spite of what he did, isn’t that also what makes us human, that ability to be em empathetic, to forgive, to occasionally be “truly excellent to each other”?
To me the juxtaposition between all that heaviness with such awesome, powerful, and emotional vocals etc, phew, gives me goosebumps just talking about it! I’ve said before, one of the things that makes the Dead so great is their use of dynamics. The ebb and flow between all that R&R energy and the power, and emotion of the ballads. The ridiculous loudness balanced by the quietness. That to me is it right there, their ability to be so quite that it’s loader, and more powerful than the loudest, most balls out rocker! Perhaps Dew is the best example, though you could through Stella and others in that mix...and the lyrical content, not too many smoochy syrupy sappy crap, real intellectual stuff, real meat and potatoes, shit to make you think! Real thinking, something truly lacking these days...
Also, besides the back story of how prison changed Merle, Johnny Cash Playing there while Merle was there supposedly had a huge influence on him too. I guess sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places.....
VINCE; too funny! You know the more I listen to Vince, the more I’m opening up to him. I think a lot of my indifference to him was because of those often cheesy sounds that weren’t his doing but Braloves. That and I’m sorry to offend any aficionados, but I couldn’t stand Way to go Home. One of a few in the late days that I wasn’t a fan of...
But what I meant to say was I was disappointed because when I saw Kids post I was thinking “our” Vince, that’s right folks the one and only Vguy! I’d give up my front row seat in Hell to see a video of OUR Vince playing WPOD! Lol
CASEY JANES; .....and so it begins😉
Well, hopefully I can finally check out 32 tonight, it’s been a very long week and ole uncle Pedro needs to go bye, bye for a few hours and I’m hoping number 32 will do the job!
Hope all y’all have a great weekend!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:17

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November 8, 2019

1969 (Dick's Picks 16 - MONSTER 2nd Set, Dark Star Medley.. if you don't know it, you deserve to. You'll thank yourself later.)

1979 (Cap Center - My good friend's 1st show, 40 years ago. Check out the SUPER slow Stagger Lee, solid Scarlet>Fire, Brent's first Dew, and I believe the only one played in 79... it's def. different, in a good way I think :)

1985 (War Memorial, Rochester - The one I am listening to now... great sounding AUD! Seriously,... if you don't think you like AUDs, check this out! I'll post the link below. Great energy, Jerry in fine form, a little sloppy, very interesting set list, including the rare Brent tune "Baby What You Want Me To Do", a "Revolution" 2nd set opener, and an absolutely GORGEOUS "She Belongs to Me" - If you check out anything from this day in GD history, this "She Belongs to Me" should be first on the list. Why did they drop this song so quickly? - also, anyone else notice that they tended to play good/great shows at the War Memorials? Rochester, Buffalo, and in honor of Veteran's Day, New Haven -- though not technically called War Memorial...)

https://archive.org/details/gd85-11-08.aud-oade.dwonk.22023.sbeok.shnf/…

1987 (Oakland - admittedly, 87 is a year I know little about, but this show certainly looks good on paper, and I listened to yesterday's 87 show, and it was really good. This one has an Iko opener, and a rare Tom Thumbs Blues encore.)

Oh, and there is a Jerry Band from 76 that was released as GarciaLive Vol. 7

Not a lot to choose from, but all choices are solid. And it's a Friday... it's a good day :)

Peace, and have a great weekend everyone!

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:21

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I have had an email telling me #32 has shipped. No indication of how so I can’t currently try to track it, at the worst it should be with me by early December. I am looking forward to hearing it.

On a separate point. I was a long time subscriber to a UK based magazine fRoots which finally closed down this summer after 40 years writing about folk and roots music from around the world. The editor, for the whole 40 years, Ian A Anderson has been hit by a large cash demand from the banks which after 40 years of dedicated promotion of so many musicians and types of music seem harsh. A GoFundMe has been set up to help pay the debt. If anyone has a spare few dollars they could do worse than assist him. The address is below.

www.gofundme.com/help-ian-a-recover-after-froots

Let’s hope for some more great GD music next year.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:31

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Thanks for the observation about SMBH. I just got the pick in the mail so I'm not there yet, but I'm looking forward to the 3rd disc in particular, and I love the context you put the song in. So interesting how bands like the dead and phish can change your perspective on a song you thought you knew just by setting it up in a particular way in the set list.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 10:02

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Yass, yass, yasss twas a fine evening, that turned into my Bday...
Great fun, did the fungal high step in front of the SB, although one of the 2 nights I was front row for the first set?
We basically owned the nearby hotel those 2 nights. Seemed like we knew everyone that was staying there and TPTB left us all alone. Listened to 84 Rochester yesterday at work for the first time.....better than I recall, not a bad show. Unfortunately don’t remember much....maximum veggie overdrive in the front row!
Thanks for the link, that’ll get me through today. Perhaps that 11/8/69 monster tonight, then, finally, 32 tomorrow?
But of course the great 73 box anniversary this weekend also....so much great Dead, so little time!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 11:19

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Man, sounds like a nice time! Oh to actually have that Wayback Machine up an running...

Reminds me of a time in Hershey, PA where the entire hotel was filled with heads after a Phish show... we didn't have a room, but there were so many funky looking people in and out and about all night, we were able to catch winks in a conference room, as long as one or two of us was a lookout, sleeping in shifts. Oh, to be a teenager again...

Have a great weekend, my man!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 11:33

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Powered by member berries...dammit Jim, hell with the beard be gone, when you going to market that way back machine 😃

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 13:12

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From my experience of life, people who are convicted of murder are not necessarily any better or worse than those who aren't. Two people I remember particularly-a woman who killed her abusive partner, and a man who killed someone who had been sleeping with his wife. As I understood it, neither planned it. Drugs, alcohol, anger...I don't condone violent behaviour, but it surely helps to try and understand people rather than condemn them out of hand. By convicting them, the law has already done that.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 13:32

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Dave has the Dark Star>Stella Blue from 7/25/74 on this weeks Tapers Section... I just noticed myself

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 13:45

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What time is house warming tomorrow?? I'm down in R.I. Both kids in college... Bob t

Reminds of the 28 minute Jam on disc 3 of Dicks Picks 12 (6/28/74 Boston Garden). To me.. it's one big Dark Star hold the vocals.

When I heard the seaside chat language on the long jam into the short Dark Star, I thought.. the Dark Star Jam's in the beginning this time and didn't give it another thought. How many E72 versions are there where they don't start singing until like 20 minutes into it?

Ok.. helavu week here, and I am now freezing my ass off. I think I am going to warm up the headphone amp, hit the hot tub and watch the sun set.. add in freshie listen of The Spectrum, some of Washington's finest and welcome a well deserved start to the weekend.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 14:21

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Dap32- Jam just melds so quick into D.S. that it's over before you can enjoy it. I still think bertha is a great one on this Dap. Warts and all. p.s.- thanks jim.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 15:15

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Sounds mighty fine Jim. I've got to go host the outlaws for drinks and dinner. Not the end of the world but its no splif in the hot tub in front of the sunset either. Whichever way the cat jumps I'll be listening to the dead at some point tonight though. I hope everyone's enjoying the new Spectrum show. I'm loving it - and only through Tenn Jed so far.

I must make special mention of the Look Like Rain. What a great version.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 15:52

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it seems like this Dark Star is, instead of the genie emerging from the bottle first, the genie is slowly returning to the bottle.

FAR OUT.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 16:15

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Good prospective.

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Submitted by Mind-Left-Body on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 16:44

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Just as predicted. He dropped in after it actually arrived and all the sudden the simple question that we got the runaround answer for over a week ago is all the sudden plain as day easy to comprehend and answer straight. Day late and a dollar short as usual.
This is embarrassing please just stop.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 17:10

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One point twenty one jigawatts!!! One point twenty one jigawatts!!!

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Submitted by HippieChick on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 17:18

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I feel ridiculous for asking because I thought someone would say something already. It's driving me pickles so out with it. Is the one drum REALLY loud? I don't know if it's my old speakers or something universal.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 18:15

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Carlo you are a funny dude.

Mind-Left-Body I hear you man, what a fool. All the sudden a precise answer is given 2 weeks later after nobody needs the info anymore. Who would even think to post the answer at this point in time anyway. What is the mindset right? Oh, the current discussion reminded me that I didn't answer the question the last time around. I don't think so. I think it's more like, now I have the information, maybe nobody will remember.

Hippiechick, it's the kick drum yeah. Loud. How come you don't answer my dirty calls anymore?

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 18:27

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Right, it needed to be said. Mabey everybody just forgot. It has been 10 days.

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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 19:16

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Am I the only one still waiting? I’m still waiting...I’m still waiting...still waiting...still....

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 19:31

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If I had to guess, this is probably what Jim is missing in order to get the way back machine working....1.21 Jigawatts and a Flux Capacitor. Then you have to bring it up to 88mph of course...

He’s a wolf...dire though he may be, the mindset is that of a predator

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 20:11

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I think c.janes is right. the jigawatts clue that poped into my head then into c.janes noggin might just be the power you so desperately need to go back in time to whatever it is you need to fix.....
Man, do I need hobby or what?

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 20:52

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How do you remove a whole comment. It only edits, but does not remove it completely.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 21:15

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I noticed it says on the FAQ section there's a a 3 to 5 week delay on domestic orders for in stock items. At least it says this so I know not to worry about the charge or getting this sweet box.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 21:31

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50 years ago tonight I was at The Fabulous Forum in Inglewood CA for my first Rolling Stones show...co-bill was BB King, Ike & Tina Turner & Terry Reid...two shows that night that ran late because of an afternoon sporting event...Terry was dropped from the 2nd show yet we still got home just before Sunrise...if I knew how to post a photo I'd attach the LA Times concert ad to this...it was my 19th Birthday, what a way to celebrate, which of course makes today my 69th...ouch....where's the Geritol?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 21:40

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Hey guys, maybe you should let it go. There are a lot of honest dead heads on this site, that is for sure. Impossible to verify everything. Keep the faith for the good ones, you know who they are.

Bob T. Love the Winterland 73 box set, so good, and how about a three song encore on the closing night. I know we would have killed for that closing in the 80s.

Keller Williams & S.C.I.~Breathe
Phil Lesh & Friends~There And Back Again Bonus Disc
Phish~Billy Breathes
Grateful Dead 1991-06-16 Giants Stadium
Gov't Mule 2018-10-31 Clyde Theater~Fort Wayne,Indiana
:O)

32 is on deck...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 22:44

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....THEE best Phish studio record. 👍
Because it has Waste on it.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:04

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Some o my favorite Phish on this one.
Vguy may be correct on this.
~Free
~Character Zero (my personal favorite...)
~Taste
~Cars Trucks Buses
~Billy Breathes
:O)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:19

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....Waste.
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no bad song representing.
Rift is great as well.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:26

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Joy, joy to ole Nappy! That musta been one hell of a night! I just did 11/8/69, phew, that one covers a lot of ground. Perhaps THE transitional axis show? 11/8/85 at work today thanks to Otis!
ROTARY PHONE; too funny, that’s one of the things I kept of my Mothers after she passed 3 years ago, her rotary on Wall Phone that was in her kitchen until right before we sold the place. I plan to eventually at least hang it somewhere (if not hot it up) as not only a remembrance, but to honor her Luddite self!
Old Lee Estee and the gang used to be able to pump out a few gigiwatts on some nights! If only we could bottle the shit!
WAY BACK/SIXTUS and the gang; now if only Jim had that damn way back working he could swing by and pick us up and get us back to the Start of the Sixtus house warming shin dig!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:48

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Thanks vguy. I did that once (the 2 asterisks) but I was embarrassed it was a rookie way to delete post but now I feel (less) of a dolt thanks to you.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 00:41

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....a new word for me.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 00:46

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Stephen kings the dark tower had a city called Lud. Creepy.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 01:14

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It must have been amazing to see them ( indoors) in 1969 - and with B.B. King and Ike and Tina Turner in support too. Get Yer Ya Ya's Out has never dated.
Having said that, I don't think I'll be rushing out to get the new super deluxe bells and no whistles 50th anniversary edition of Let It Bleed .

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 10:44

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According to the Guardian newspaper this morning, there is a cassette revival taking place in Britain at the moment. Apparently, "Cassettes give every album an overture of clunk and rattle, and they confer a strange, transgressive mastery on the listener:" Also..."if you decide you don't like the music, you can just record over it with something better." Fancy that.

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