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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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    Vguy, I saw Slayer during the South of Heaven tour in a small theater in Mountain View...pretty wild, last time they booked a metal show there.
    Roy Orbison at the Old Waldorf in SF in '82, terrific show in a very small club; the original Byrds at the Boarding House in SF, superb show in a 400 seater or so.
    Saw BB King in '69 at the Olympia in Paris, Fats Domino in Paris in 73, Bill Haley & the Comets also in 73. Made 11 of the 15 1980 Warfield shows, and a slew of Jerry shows at Keystone Berkeley, Palo Alto and SF
    Sadly, I did not go to the Last Waltz because of ticket price($25)

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    …...Are always more special for me. 5 of my faves:
    XTC at Gaston Hall(A Georgetown U. lecture hall)-Jan.1980
    Billy Joel at The Bayou(famous DC club long since destroyed)-during "Songs In The Attic" recordings for LP-July '80
    Frank Zappa at Painters Mill Music Fair(2500 seat "in the round" venue)-Nov.'81
    Prince at Warner Theater(2,000 seat old time Theater)-Nov. '81
    The Cars(also at Painters Mill-just as 1st LP was released, they opened)-June '78

    Oh, can't forget The Ramones At Martin's West in Woodlawn MD, (a popular Wedding Venue!!-all those chandeliers!!)-Summer '78

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    I saw Elizabeth Cotton at the Sweetwater in Mill Valley, very small bar. At the original Freight & Salvage over in Berkeley, I saw John Fahey , Peter Rowen, David Nelson & Frank Wakefield ( I taped that show), this was a super small place. One of the cool things about The Freight & Salvage , there is a great bbq joint right down street called Everett & Jones, 2am right after the show we would go down there and eat some of the best bbq on the planet. Saw B.B. King at The Saddle Rack in San Jose . Saw Jerry Garcia at the Keystone in Palo Alto a bunch of times. Of course, saw The Grateful Dead at The Warfield & Orpheum theatres up in S.F. quite a few times. The Warfield held over 2000 people, the Orpheum under 2000 people, so they were way larger then the places I mentioned above, but still smaller then The Greek Theatre & Frost Ampiteater , where I also saw the Dead play a bunch of times.

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    Hey Carlo, I saw Pat Travers at an old movie theater converted into a concert hall back during the "Boom boom, out go the lights" days, always liked the double attack of Pat Travers and Pat Thrall, snortin' whiskey and drinkin' cocaine indeed. I was working at a record store back in the early 80's in Fla and Pat Travers lived in Longwood, a short distance away from the store. One day, he walked in, he was looking over the blues and old rock lp's and picked out a Johnny Winter blues record and came up to pay for it. I recognized him and pulled out Crash and Burn from the bin and had him sign it. He liked to cruse small record stores looking for treasure. Nice guy, very humble and very shy.
    My best shows have also been at small venues or bars, caught Crack the sky at a bar, caught Cactus at the aforementioned old movie house, caught DSO in a bar before they got big, caught Traffic in a 1000 seat place back in the early 70's when they were still around and big. Saw Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush at the same movie house. Saw Aerosmith at a bar before they were even known. Jethro Tull at a house of blues, Yes at the same house of blues, Joe Walsh at the same place too..... Saw the Stones in a small venue in 75 and the Police at Tomorrowland at Disney. Caught Ratdog at several small venues in the 90's, man, I miss that band, they were the closest thing to the Dead back in the day. I have a small treasure chest that is full of old ticket stubs, one day I will go thru them and maybe post some pics if I can figure out how to do that. :)
    First post of the new year so Happy New Year all you deadheads out there. Pretty heavy 50 year anniversary this year, 1970 was a pivotal year in ending the Vietnam War. 50th anniversary of the Kent state killings this year. Lets not ever go down that path again. Janis and Jimi 50th anniversary of their passing too. Heavy times for sure.

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    Snortin whiskey. This would have been a great band to see back in the day.

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    ....saw Slayer and Poison at small halls in Vegas. Circa 84 and 85 respectively. Max Cap 375ish. Good shows.
    Another good one. Dio @ The Huntridge in Vegas '89ish.
    The roof caved in during a rainstorm. Postponed for three days. Ronnie came out and kicked our asses!!

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    Mhammond, I think the debut of both Beethoven's famous 5th, and magisterial 6th (the Pastoral) wins. That's amazing to think two of his biggest and most diverse works debuted the same night. And the 6th debuted before the 5th, which was obviously a second set symphony. The 6th is more like Here Comes Sunshine, it can open a show. The 5th is The Other One steamrolling over you in the middle of the second set. 12/22/1808 should be added to all music nerds internal calendar of important dates!

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    I had my fun at big venues and festivals too.. but those days are behind me.

    Perhaps my coolest small venue thing was seeing Widespread at a place in Baltimore call Max's in Fells Point. My date was a cutie that went to school with and knew all of them.. so we did dinner at Bertha's before hand and partied a good bit before, during and after. This was way before they were big.. there was probably 40 or 50 people there.

    Fav dead venue was the Greek.. only got there once, but what a nice place to see the dead.

    If I could go back in time.. I'd have to agree with mhammond and put Monterrey Pop where you get Hendrix, Janis and The Who, plus the Dead with Pigpen. I don't know about the rest.. perhaps I would blow it off and smoke a fatty with Da Vinci and hope he doesn't make a pass at me. Maybe hang out with JC for a bit and keep Hitler from getting a hold of that brown acid and be sure to make it back by daylight.

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    Bowie
    Zappa
    At least one more Motorhead
    Pink Floyd
    and that Santana set at Woodstock

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    The eww factor...

    My "little glass friend" fell and broke last evening after years of companionship. C'est la vie.

    But...the clod i found inside the main chamber...

    Naaaaasty. Sure gave me pause.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

... I was asked this question before right around the time before the shipments went out and I shared have the same opinion ,so did thedeads team before production. Whaat is the running time is it four minutes and 10 seconds is it four minutes and eight seconds four minutes and seven seconds or minutes and three seconds lol primo Post andbthinking sixtus &keithfan! ;)...Rock On my Brothers and sisters have a grateful day God bless 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 08:07

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There is little doubt in my mind that if the 4 minute passage had come before the 20 minute jam that it would have been tracked as a 24 minute Dark Star

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 08:39

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I find myself listening to the November 1973 Winterland box the most. I know there are only 3 shows, but I tend to gravitate towards this run more than any other!! The cold part of fall has arrived here in Rhode Island!! Have a good weekend everyone..... 11/9/73 Going on one day early!!! Bob t

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:13

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SMBH; love that song, Merle’s is great but I think Jer makes it his own and thus takes it to another level.
It’s like watching old yeller, how the hell can you really listen to this, especially after some psychedelic, emotional roller coaster space voyage, and not get choked up. Like Jim said about third person....imagine you’ve spent that kind of time with another human being, no matter what their crime, and so you’re kinda going through all that with the person, truly heavy shit, which is powerful to imagine. I understand some folks might not be comfortable with such heaviness, and yes the guy did a terrible thing, but hey, isn’t that the one thing ALL humans have in comman....we’re all fuckups and do horrible things to each other? So to stand in that persons shoes emotionally for a few minutes is really powerful. To offer that tortured soul that one “kind favor” in spite of what he did, isn’t that also what makes us human, that ability to be em empathetic, to forgive, to occasionally be “truly excellent to each other”?
To me the juxtaposition between all that heaviness with such awesome, powerful, and emotional vocals etc, phew, gives me goosebumps just talking about it! I’ve said before, one of the things that makes the Dead so great is their use of dynamics. The ebb and flow between all that R&R energy and the power, and emotion of the ballads. The ridiculous loudness balanced by the quietness. That to me is it right there, their ability to be so quite that it’s loader, and more powerful than the loudest, most balls out rocker! Perhaps Dew is the best example, though you could through Stella and others in that mix...and the lyrical content, not too many smoochy syrupy sappy crap, real intellectual stuff, real meat and potatoes, shit to make you think! Real thinking, something truly lacking these days...
Also, besides the back story of how prison changed Merle, Johnny Cash Playing there while Merle was there supposedly had a huge influence on him too. I guess sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places.....
VINCE; too funny! You know the more I listen to Vince, the more I’m opening up to him. I think a lot of my indifference to him was because of those often cheesy sounds that weren’t his doing but Braloves. That and I’m sorry to offend any aficionados, but I couldn’t stand Way to go Home. One of a few in the late days that I wasn’t a fan of...
But what I meant to say was I was disappointed because when I saw Kids post I was thinking “our” Vince, that’s right folks the one and only Vguy! I’d give up my front row seat in Hell to see a video of OUR Vince playing WPOD! Lol
CASEY JANES; .....and so it begins😉
Well, hopefully I can finally check out 32 tonight, it’s been a very long week and ole uncle Pedro needs to go bye, bye for a few hours and I’m hoping number 32 will do the job!
Hope all y’all have a great weekend!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:17

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November 8, 2019

1969 (Dick's Picks 16 - MONSTER 2nd Set, Dark Star Medley.. if you don't know it, you deserve to. You'll thank yourself later.)

1979 (Cap Center - My good friend's 1st show, 40 years ago. Check out the SUPER slow Stagger Lee, solid Scarlet>Fire, Brent's first Dew, and I believe the only one played in 79... it's def. different, in a good way I think :)

1985 (War Memorial, Rochester - The one I am listening to now... great sounding AUD! Seriously,... if you don't think you like AUDs, check this out! I'll post the link below. Great energy, Jerry in fine form, a little sloppy, very interesting set list, including the rare Brent tune "Baby What You Want Me To Do", a "Revolution" 2nd set opener, and an absolutely GORGEOUS "She Belongs to Me" - If you check out anything from this day in GD history, this "She Belongs to Me" should be first on the list. Why did they drop this song so quickly? - also, anyone else notice that they tended to play good/great shows at the War Memorials? Rochester, Buffalo, and in honor of Veteran's Day, New Haven -- though not technically called War Memorial...)

https://archive.org/details/gd85-11-08.aud-oade.dwonk.22023.sbeok.shnf/…

1987 (Oakland - admittedly, 87 is a year I know little about, but this show certainly looks good on paper, and I listened to yesterday's 87 show, and it was really good. This one has an Iko opener, and a rare Tom Thumbs Blues encore.)

Oh, and there is a Jerry Band from 76 that was released as GarciaLive Vol. 7

Not a lot to choose from, but all choices are solid. And it's a Friday... it's a good day :)

Peace, and have a great weekend everyone!

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:21

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I have had an email telling me #32 has shipped. No indication of how so I can’t currently try to track it, at the worst it should be with me by early December. I am looking forward to hearing it.

On a separate point. I was a long time subscriber to a UK based magazine fRoots which finally closed down this summer after 40 years writing about folk and roots music from around the world. The editor, for the whole 40 years, Ian A Anderson has been hit by a large cash demand from the banks which after 40 years of dedicated promotion of so many musicians and types of music seem harsh. A GoFundMe has been set up to help pay the debt. If anyone has a spare few dollars they could do worse than assist him. The address is below.

www.gofundme.com/help-ian-a-recover-after-froots

Let’s hope for some more great GD music next year.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 09:31

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Thanks for the observation about SMBH. I just got the pick in the mail so I'm not there yet, but I'm looking forward to the 3rd disc in particular, and I love the context you put the song in. So interesting how bands like the dead and phish can change your perspective on a song you thought you knew just by setting it up in a particular way in the set list.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 10:02

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Yass, yass, yasss twas a fine evening, that turned into my Bday...
Great fun, did the fungal high step in front of the SB, although one of the 2 nights I was front row for the first set?
We basically owned the nearby hotel those 2 nights. Seemed like we knew everyone that was staying there and TPTB left us all alone. Listened to 84 Rochester yesterday at work for the first time.....better than I recall, not a bad show. Unfortunately don’t remember much....maximum veggie overdrive in the front row!
Thanks for the link, that’ll get me through today. Perhaps that 11/8/69 monster tonight, then, finally, 32 tomorrow?
But of course the great 73 box anniversary this weekend also....so much great Dead, so little time!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 11:19

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Man, sounds like a nice time! Oh to actually have that Wayback Machine up an running...

Reminds me of a time in Hershey, PA where the entire hotel was filled with heads after a Phish show... we didn't have a room, but there were so many funky looking people in and out and about all night, we were able to catch winks in a conference room, as long as one or two of us was a lookout, sleeping in shifts. Oh, to be a teenager again...

Have a great weekend, my man!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 11:33

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Powered by member berries...dammit Jim, hell with the beard be gone, when you going to market that way back machine 😃

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 13:12

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From my experience of life, people who are convicted of murder are not necessarily any better or worse than those who aren't. Two people I remember particularly-a woman who killed her abusive partner, and a man who killed someone who had been sleeping with his wife. As I understood it, neither planned it. Drugs, alcohol, anger...I don't condone violent behaviour, but it surely helps to try and understand people rather than condemn them out of hand. By convicting them, the law has already done that.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 13:32

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Dave has the Dark Star>Stella Blue from 7/25/74 on this weeks Tapers Section... I just noticed myself

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 13:45

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What time is house warming tomorrow?? I'm down in R.I. Both kids in college... Bob t

Reminds of the 28 minute Jam on disc 3 of Dicks Picks 12 (6/28/74 Boston Garden). To me.. it's one big Dark Star hold the vocals.

When I heard the seaside chat language on the long jam into the short Dark Star, I thought.. the Dark Star Jam's in the beginning this time and didn't give it another thought. How many E72 versions are there where they don't start singing until like 20 minutes into it?

Ok.. helavu week here, and I am now freezing my ass off. I think I am going to warm up the headphone amp, hit the hot tub and watch the sun set.. add in freshie listen of The Spectrum, some of Washington's finest and welcome a well deserved start to the weekend.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 14:21

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Dap32- Jam just melds so quick into D.S. that it's over before you can enjoy it. I still think bertha is a great one on this Dap. Warts and all. p.s.- thanks jim.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 15:15

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Sounds mighty fine Jim. I've got to go host the outlaws for drinks and dinner. Not the end of the world but its no splif in the hot tub in front of the sunset either. Whichever way the cat jumps I'll be listening to the dead at some point tonight though. I hope everyone's enjoying the new Spectrum show. I'm loving it - and only through Tenn Jed so far.

I must make special mention of the Look Like Rain. What a great version.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 15:52

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it seems like this Dark Star is, instead of the genie emerging from the bottle first, the genie is slowly returning to the bottle.

FAR OUT.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 16:15

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Good prospective.

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Submitted by Mind-Left-Body on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 16:44

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Just as predicted. He dropped in after it actually arrived and all the sudden the simple question that we got the runaround answer for over a week ago is all the sudden plain as day easy to comprehend and answer straight. Day late and a dollar short as usual.
This is embarrassing please just stop.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 17:10

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One point twenty one jigawatts!!! One point twenty one jigawatts!!!

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Submitted by HippieChick on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 17:18

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I feel ridiculous for asking because I thought someone would say something already. It's driving me pickles so out with it. Is the one drum REALLY loud? I don't know if it's my old speakers or something universal.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 18:15

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Carlo you are a funny dude.

Mind-Left-Body I hear you man, what a fool. All the sudden a precise answer is given 2 weeks later after nobody needs the info anymore. Who would even think to post the answer at this point in time anyway. What is the mindset right? Oh, the current discussion reminded me that I didn't answer the question the last time around. I don't think so. I think it's more like, now I have the information, maybe nobody will remember.

Hippiechick, it's the kick drum yeah. Loud. How come you don't answer my dirty calls anymore?

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 18:27

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Right, it needed to be said. Mabey everybody just forgot. It has been 10 days.

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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 19:16

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Am I the only one still waiting? I’m still waiting...I’m still waiting...still waiting...still....

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 19:31

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If I had to guess, this is probably what Jim is missing in order to get the way back machine working....1.21 Jigawatts and a Flux Capacitor. Then you have to bring it up to 88mph of course...

He’s a wolf...dire though he may be, the mindset is that of a predator

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 20:11

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I think c.janes is right. the jigawatts clue that poped into my head then into c.janes noggin might just be the power you so desperately need to go back in time to whatever it is you need to fix.....
Man, do I need hobby or what?

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 20:52

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How do you remove a whole comment. It only edits, but does not remove it completely.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 21:15

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I noticed it says on the FAQ section there's a a 3 to 5 week delay on domestic orders for in stock items. At least it says this so I know not to worry about the charge or getting this sweet box.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 21:31

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50 years ago tonight I was at The Fabulous Forum in Inglewood CA for my first Rolling Stones show...co-bill was BB King, Ike & Tina Turner & Terry Reid...two shows that night that ran late because of an afternoon sporting event...Terry was dropped from the 2nd show yet we still got home just before Sunrise...if I knew how to post a photo I'd attach the LA Times concert ad to this...it was my 19th Birthday, what a way to celebrate, which of course makes today my 69th...ouch....where's the Geritol?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 21:40

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Hey guys, maybe you should let it go. There are a lot of honest dead heads on this site, that is for sure. Impossible to verify everything. Keep the faith for the good ones, you know who they are.

Bob T. Love the Winterland 73 box set, so good, and how about a three song encore on the closing night. I know we would have killed for that closing in the 80s.

Keller Williams & S.C.I.~Breathe
Phil Lesh & Friends~There And Back Again Bonus Disc
Phish~Billy Breathes
Grateful Dead 1991-06-16 Giants Stadium
Gov't Mule 2018-10-31 Clyde Theater~Fort Wayne,Indiana
:O)

32 is on deck...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 22:44

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....THEE best Phish studio record. 👍
Because it has Waste on it.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:04

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Some o my favorite Phish on this one.
Vguy may be correct on this.
~Free
~Character Zero (my personal favorite...)
~Taste
~Cars Trucks Buses
~Billy Breathes
:O)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:19

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....Waste.
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no bad song representing.
Rift is great as well.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:26

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Joy, joy to ole Nappy! That musta been one hell of a night! I just did 11/8/69, phew, that one covers a lot of ground. Perhaps THE transitional axis show? 11/8/85 at work today thanks to Otis!
ROTARY PHONE; too funny, that’s one of the things I kept of my Mothers after she passed 3 years ago, her rotary on Wall Phone that was in her kitchen until right before we sold the place. I plan to eventually at least hang it somewhere (if not hot it up) as not only a remembrance, but to honor her Luddite self!
Old Lee Estee and the gang used to be able to pump out a few gigiwatts on some nights! If only we could bottle the shit!
WAY BACK/SIXTUS and the gang; now if only Jim had that damn way back working he could swing by and pick us up and get us back to the Start of the Sixtus house warming shin dig!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 11/08/2019 - 23:48

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Thanks vguy. I did that once (the 2 asterisks) but I was embarrassed it was a rookie way to delete post but now I feel (less) of a dolt thanks to you.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 00:08

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 00:41

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....a new word for me.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 00:46

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Stephen kings the dark tower had a city called Lud. Creepy.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 01:14

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It must have been amazing to see them ( indoors) in 1969 - and with B.B. King and Ike and Tina Turner in support too. Get Yer Ya Ya's Out has never dated.
Having said that, I don't think I'll be rushing out to get the new super deluxe bells and no whistles 50th anniversary edition of Let It Bleed .

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/09/2019 - 10:44

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According to the Guardian newspaper this morning, there is a cassette revival taking place in Britain at the moment. Apparently, "Cassettes give every album an overture of clunk and rattle, and they confer a strange, transgressive mastery on the listener:" Also..."if you decide you don't like the music, you can just record over it with something better." Fancy that.

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