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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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January 20, 2020 - 3:20pm

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Charlie3

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CSN and Dead

Carlo13, CSN opened for the Dead on 7/16/90 in Buffalo. I had a good time at that show, recall being stoked for Loose Lucy as I hadn't seen it at a show before that one and it just seemed like they were having a good time playing it. Good times.
January 20, 2020 - 2:37pm

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daverock

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Lack of practice

Oroborous...I can remember reading somewhere that that was why The Eleven got dropped. They apparently practised for hours at a time playing in that time signature. To such an extent that they became so familiar with it that they could improvise within it on an almost nightly basis-a stunning high wire achievement that ultimately proved unsustainable. So by 1970 it was goodbye "The Eleven", hello "Not Fade Away".
January 20, 2020 - 1:56pm

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carlo13

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JGB debut album anniversary

1972 JGB DEBUT ALBUM ANNIVERSARY TODAY.
January 20, 2020 - 1:15pm

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carlo13

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CSNY

I've been listening to CSNY since 1978 and still love them. Seen CSN a few times and once with the dead in buffalo (I think it was buffalo.) Its to bad this kind of music went extinct. They were like the dinosaurs. Big and badass.
January 20, 2020 - 12:47pm

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Oroborous

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Carlo/movies

Music, books, movies....what else is there? Ok, you need some “green” and beer, but that’s it!......well, maybe this chair, but that’s it.....and this paddle ball, but that’s it....
I don’t buy so many movies anymore, but you are correct, the Criterion collection is good shit. If my memory is correct they are the ones who go the extra mile on refurbishing/scans etc
January 20, 2020 - 12:19pm

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rusty string

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Last order (of beer) and first lines

[Thanks, CaseyJanes for the link to the brewery site. I am not an expert on beer, so I always wonder whether I use the correct translations of the German types into English - that helps a lot.]

I can perfectly understand that post about "Eyes": The opening line of a song sometimes gets you right into the perfect mood for what's to follow. And Hunter gave us so many of those. "Well, the first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more." Love that, too.

Last 5:
Stephen Stills - "First Album"
Stephen Still's Manassas - "Manassas"
McGuinn, Clark and Hillman - "Three Byrds Land In London"
Jerry Garcia & Merle Saunders - "GarciaLive Vol. 12: Boarding House 1975"
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young: "CSNY 1974" (box set)

Bought a copy of Uncut's "The Ultimate Music Guide: CSN&Y" - how I love these compendiums. A bit pricey as imports but always worth the money. Always make me want to revisit tons of albums.
January 20, 2020 - 12:05pm

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carlo13

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Oro

You nailed it on the NOD cd. I see you are a movie buff. Have you tried the criterion movie collection? It's a collection of the best domestic and foreign movies on a high def and remastered quality disks. Most come with booklets and quality dvd/blu-ray holders. They also have some concerts like Monterey pop fest. and the stones gimme shelter at altamont speedway with the best remastered version found anywhere. Check out criterion.com. they are more pricey than other dvd/blu-ray movies but well worth it. They have 1/2 price criterion a few times a year on the site and at barnes and noble too.
January 20, 2020 - 10:15am

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Oroborous

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St. Steve’s and others through the years..and 41 years tonight!

First I will say that of course nothing compares to those early psychedelic years, especially the 69 versions, but like anything else, when played well, I felt like they stood the test of time at least. But like Jim touched on, made a big difference if you were fortunate to see any of the big dogs live. Saw the 10/15/83 Stephen, probably a half dozen Dark Stars (some were only the jam/partials). Saw many one offs, 1st or Second versions, or first or second reintroductions etc; Attics, Death Don’t, Box o Rain....but unfortunately, close but no cigar for Casey Jones, Ripple, or the perhaps the biggest regret, no Here Comes Sunshine, Dooooo! Cant complain though, had uncanny luck over the years as far as that goes, from my first show, 1/20/79 (Dark Star)....hey, that’s today! Today’s my 41st anniversary....I was fortunate to rack up some good stats as far as seeing obscurities.
EYES; I agree that generally I don’t like the faster ones, but that they did play some awesome mid eighties versions. Imho nothing is like those 73/74 monsters with the awesome jazz jam in the middle. To me, those Eyes are in my top handful of elite songs/versions...
TOO; similar feelings about The Other one....early big ones, especially the Cryptical's, were awesome, then they just seemed to drone on, then say mid eighties they got a little psychedelic again...I usually liked the Healy weirdness effects on the vocals, though sometimes it was a bit much. I know many folks didn’t dig that, and I believe I read somewhere not all the band was into it? But that’s another that seemed to go through phases...
POST PIG; also not a big fan of the Pig stuff after he passed, except years later I thought Warren did a great job on all that old stuff. Still think they should of had multiple guitars for Fare Thee Well, even if they cycled through and took turns. Always loved Wareen doing the old blues stuff, and some of the Brent tunes too!
But like all the songs, on the right night, or even sometimes today listening, if they stars align and their ripping it up, any song is awesome! Surely saw some great Good Lovin’s and Lovelights, and if nothing else, many a night we felt like at least it wasn’t yet another Stones/NFA, but generally speaking, perhaps they should have let sleeping dogs lie...

PRACTICE; I think the biggest reason/factor with them not keeping up on the St Steves etc was practice, or lack there of. I know they all commented that in the good old days they still rehearsed enough that they could keep their chops up on the more challenging material....you can’t fake your way through Steve’s, The 11, Help, Cosmic Charlie etc.
So another unfortunate side effect of Jerry’s addiction problems was they basically didn’t rehearse much. They all have mentioned that over the years, and it’s clearly evident by all the great tunes that came back in more recent years of Phil, Furthur, and D&C shows, which to me is the highlight of these later incarnations; getting to see the great old psychedelic stuff we didn’t get in the later years of the Dead.

EDIT; well said Daverock!
January 20, 2020 - 10:13am

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daverock

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"here's one you might remember.."

Jiminmd….100% agree. It is totally different experiencing the songs live to listening to a live recording. You wouldn't have heard me complaining if they had played St. Stephen at Wembley in 1990. How well it would have stood the test of time is another matter. But maybe that's beside the point...the magic was to be in the moment, not consider how it would be perceived 30( (!) years later on a cd.
January 20, 2020 - 10:04am

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stoltzfus

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Billy the Kid

Envy

Especially 7 13 76

Long time love for that show

One "special" night, hearing that on tape...

John Perry Barlow

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Dark star Daves 32

... I was asked this question before right around the time before the shipments went out and I shared have the same opinion ,so did thedeads team before production. Whaat is the running time is it four minutes and 10 seconds is it four minutes and eight seconds four minutes and seven seconds or minutes and three seconds lol primo Post andbthinking sixtus &keithfan! ;)...Rock On my Brothers and sisters have a grateful day God bless 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

Dark Star

There is little doubt in my mind that if the 4 minute passage had come before the 20 minute jam that it would have been tracked as a 24 minute Dark Star

After the excitement of all the box sets diminishes....

I find myself listening to the November 1973 Winterland box the most. I know there are only 3 shows, but I tend to gravitate towards this run more than any other!! The cold part of fall has arrived here in Rhode Island!! Have a good weekend everyone..... 11/9/73 Going on one day early!!! Bob t

Bullfrogs

SMBH; love that song, Merle’s is great but I think Jer makes it his own and thus takes it to another level.
It’s like watching old yeller, how the hell can you really listen to this, especially after some psychedelic, emotional roller coaster space voyage, and not get choked up. Like Jim said about third person....imagine you’ve spent that kind of time with another human being, no matter what their crime, and so you’re kinda going through all that with the person, truly heavy shit, which is powerful to imagine. I understand some folks might not be comfortable with such heaviness, and yes the guy did a terrible thing, but hey, isn’t that the one thing ALL humans have in comman....we’re all fuckups and do horrible things to each other? So to stand in that persons shoes emotionally for a few minutes is really powerful. To offer that tortured soul that one “kind favor” in spite of what he did, isn’t that also what makes us human, that ability to be em empathetic, to forgive, to occasionally be “truly excellent to each other”?
To me the juxtaposition between all that heaviness with such awesome, powerful, and emotional vocals etc, phew, gives me goosebumps just talking about it! I’ve said before, one of the things that makes the Dead so great is their use of dynamics. The ebb and flow between all that R&R energy and the power, and emotion of the ballads. The ridiculous loudness balanced by the quietness. That to me is it right there, their ability to be so quite that it’s loader, and more powerful than the loudest, most balls out rocker! Perhaps Dew is the best example, though you could through Stella and others in that mix...and the lyrical content, not too many smoochy syrupy sappy crap, real intellectual stuff, real meat and potatoes, shit to make you think! Real thinking, something truly lacking these days...
Also, besides the back story of how prison changed Merle, Johnny Cash Playing there while Merle was there supposedly had a huge influence on him too. I guess sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places.....
VINCE; too funny! You know the more I listen to Vince, the more I’m opening up to him. I think a lot of my indifference to him was because of those often cheesy sounds that weren’t his doing but Braloves. That and I’m sorry to offend any aficionados, but I couldn’t stand Way to go Home. One of a few in the late days that I wasn’t a fan of...
But what I meant to say was I was disappointed because when I saw Kids post I was thinking “our” Vince, that’s right folks the one and only Vguy! I’d give up my front row seat in Hell to see a video of OUR Vince playing WPOD! Lol
CASEY JANES; .....and so it begins😉
Well, hopefully I can finally check out 32 tonight, it’s been a very long week and ole uncle Pedro needs to go bye, bye for a few hours and I’m hoping number 32 will do the job!
Hope all y’all have a great weekend!

This Day in Grateful Dead History...

November 8, 2019

1969 (Dick's Picks 16 - MONSTER 2nd Set, Dark Star Medley.. if you don't know it, you deserve to. You'll thank yourself later.)

1979 (Cap Center - My good friend's 1st show, 40 years ago. Check out the SUPER slow Stagger Lee, solid Scarlet>Fire, Brent's first Dew, and I believe the only one played in 79... it's def. different, in a good way I think :)

1985 (War Memorial, Rochester - The one I am listening to now... great sounding AUD! Seriously,... if you don't think you like AUDs, check this out! I'll post the link below. Great energy, Jerry in fine form, a little sloppy, very interesting set list, including the rare Brent tune "Baby What You Want Me To Do", a "Revolution" 2nd set opener, and an absolutely GORGEOUS "She Belongs to Me" - If you check out anything from this day in GD history, this "She Belongs to Me" should be first on the list. Why did they drop this song so quickly? - also, anyone else notice that they tended to play good/great shows at the War Memorials? Rochester, Buffalo, and in honor of Veteran's Day, New Haven -- though not technically called War Memorial...)

https://archive.org/details/gd85-11-08.aud-oade.dwonk.22023.sbeok.shnf/…

1987 (Oakland - admittedly, 87 is a year I know little about, but this show certainly looks good on paper, and I listened to yesterday's 87 show, and it was really good. This one has an Iko opener, and a rare Tom Thumbs Blues encore.)

Oh, and there is a Jerry Band from 76 that was released as GarciaLive Vol. 7

Not a lot to choose from, but all choices are solid. And it's a Friday... it's a good day :)

Peace, and have a great weekend everyone!

On its way to the UK

I have had an email telling me #32 has shipped. No indication of how so I can’t currently try to track it, at the worst it should be with me by early December. I am looking forward to hearing it.

On a separate point. I was a long time subscriber to a UK based magazine fRoots which finally closed down this summer after 40 years writing about folk and roots music from around the world. The editor, for the whole 40 years, Ian A Anderson has been hit by a large cash demand from the banks which after 40 years of dedicated promotion of so many musicians and types of music seem harsh. A GoFundMe has been set up to help pay the debt. If anyone has a spare few dollars they could do worse than assist him. The address is below.

www.gofundme.com/help-ian-a-recover-after-froots

Let’s hope for some more great GD music next year.

Fivebranch

Thanks for the observation about SMBH. I just got the pick in the mail so I'm not there yet, but I'm looking forward to the 3rd disc in particular, and I love the context you put the song in. So interesting how bands like the dead and phish can change your perspective on a song you thought you knew just by setting it up in a particular way in the set list.

Otis/85 Crochfester

Yass, yass, yasss twas a fine evening, that turned into my Bday...
Great fun, did the fungal high step in front of the SB, although one of the 2 nights I was front row for the first set?
We basically owned the nearby hotel those 2 nights. Seemed like we knew everyone that was staying there and TPTB left us all alone. Listened to 84 Rochester yesterday at work for the first time.....better than I recall, not a bad show. Unfortunately don’t remember much....maximum veggie overdrive in the front row!
Thanks for the link, that’ll get me through today. Perhaps that 11/8/69 monster tonight, then, finally, 32 tomorrow?
But of course the great 73 box anniversary this weekend also....so much great Dead, so little time!

@ Oroborus

Man, sounds like a nice time! Oh to actually have that Wayback Machine up an running...

Reminds me of a time in Hershey, PA where the entire hotel was filled with heads after a Phish show... we didn't have a room, but there were so many funky looking people in and out and about all night, we were able to catch winks in a conference room, as long as one or two of us was a lookout, sleeping in shifts. Oh, to be a teenager again...

Have a great weekend, my man!

Way Back Machine

November 8 anniversaries

11/8/70

oh, for soundboards of those Port Chester shows

Don't murder me

From my experience of life, people who are convicted of murder are not necessarily any better or worse than those who aren't. Two people I remember particularly-a woman who killed her abusive partner, and a man who killed someone who had been sleeping with his wife. As I understood it, neither planned it. Drugs, alcohol, anger...I don't condone violent behaviour, but it surely helps to try and understand people rather than condemn them out of hand. By convicting them, the law has already done that.

In case you didn't notice

Dave has the Dark Star>Stella Blue from 7/25/74 on this weeks Tapers Section... I just noticed myself

Re Sixtus

What time is house warming tomorrow?? I'm down in R.I. Both kids in college... Bob t

It's All One Big Dark Star to Me

Reminds of the 28 minute Jam on disc 3 of Dicks Picks 12 (6/28/74 Boston Garden). To me.. it's one big Dark Star hold the vocals.

When I heard the seaside chat language on the long jam into the short Dark Star, I thought.. the Dark Star Jam's in the beginning this time and didn't give it another thought. How many E72 versions are there where they don't start singing until like 20 minutes into it?

Ok.. helavu week here, and I am now freezing my ass off. I think I am going to warm up the headphone amp, hit the hot tub and watch the sun set.. add in freshie listen of The Spectrum, some of Washington's finest and welcome a well deserved start to the weekend.

Jam>dark star

Dap32- Jam just melds so quick into D.S. that it's over before you can enjoy it. I still think bertha is a great one on this Dap. Warts and all. p.s.- thanks jim.

Nice

Sounds mighty fine Jim. I've got to go host the outlaws for drinks and dinner. Not the end of the world but its no splif in the hot tub in front of the sunset either. Whichever way the cat jumps I'll be listening to the dead at some point tonight though. I hope everyone's enjoying the new Spectrum show. I'm loving it - and only through Tenn Jed so far.

I must make special mention of the Look Like Rain. What a great version.

fwiw

it seems like this Dark Star is, instead of the genie emerging from the bottle first, the genie is slowly returning to the bottle.

FAR OUT.

Stoltzfus

Good prospective.

right on cue

Just as predicted. He dropped in after it actually arrived and all the sudden the simple question that we got the runaround answer for over a week ago is all the sudden plain as day easy to comprehend and answer straight. Day late and a dollar short as usual.
This is embarrassing please just stop.

Jigawatts

One point twenty one jigawatts!!! One point twenty one jigawatts!!!

Sound question

I feel ridiculous for asking because I thought someone would say something already. It's driving me pickles so out with it. Is the one drum REALLY loud? I don't know if it's my old speakers or something universal.

1.21 gigawatts!!

Carlo you are a funny dude.

Mind-Left-Body I hear you man, what a fool. All the sudden a precise answer is given 2 weeks later after nobody needs the info anymore. Who would even think to post the answer at this point in time anyway. What is the mindset right? Oh, the current discussion reminded me that I didn't answer the question the last time around. I don't think so. I think it's more like, now I have the information, maybe nobody will remember.

Hippiechick, it's the kick drum yeah. Loud. How come you don't answer my dirty calls anymore?

Train

Right, it needed to be said. Mabey everybody just forgot. It has been 10 days.

No shipment

Am I the only one still waiting? I’m still waiting...I’m still waiting...still waiting...still....

A Flux Capacitor

If I had to guess, this is probably what Jim is missing in order to get the way back machine working....1.21 Jigawatts and a Flux Capacitor. Then you have to bring it up to 88mph of course...

He’s a wolf...dire though he may be, the mindset is that of a predator

Jim

I think c.janes is right. the jigawatts clue that poped into my head then into c.janes noggin might just be the power you so desperately need to go back in time to whatever it is you need to fix.....
Man, do I need hobby or what?

How

How do you remove a whole comment. It only edits, but does not remove it completely.

Delay

I noticed it says on the FAQ section there's a a 3 to 5 week delay on domestic orders for in stock items. At least it says this so I know not to worry about the charge or getting this sweet box.

November 8, 1969...

50 years ago tonight I was at The Fabulous Forum in Inglewood CA for my first Rolling Stones show...co-bill was BB King, Ike & Tina Turner & Terry Reid...two shows that night that ran late because of an afternoon sporting event...Terry was dropped from the 2nd show yet we still got home just before Sunrise...if I knew how to post a photo I'd attach the LA Times concert ad to this...it was my 19th Birthday, what a way to celebrate, which of course makes today my 69th...ouch....where's the Geritol?

On Line Blogs

Hey guys, maybe you should let it go. There are a lot of honest dead heads on this site, that is for sure. Impossible to verify everything. Keep the faith for the good ones, you know who they are.

Bob T. Love the Winterland 73 box set, so good, and how about a three song encore on the closing night. I know we would have killed for that closing in the 80s.

I just bought a rotary phone....

....just because I kinda miss them, and I want to confuse my son. Double Dip.

Carlo13's question on how to delete a post/question....

.... here. Take my hand. Wait for it.

*

Or, one could change the post....

....before it falls into the wrong heads.

last 5...

Keller Williams & S.C.I.~Breathe
Phil Lesh & Friends~There And Back Again Bonus Disc
Phish~Billy Breathes
Grateful Dead 1991-06-16 Giants Stadium
Gov't Mule 2018-10-31 Clyde Theater~Fort Wayne,Indiana
:O)

32 is on deck...

Billy Breathes....

....THEE best Phish studio record. 👍
Because it has Waste on it.

Billy...

Some o my favorite Phish on this one.
Vguy may be correct on this.
~Free
~Character Zero (my personal favorite...)
~Taste
~Cars Trucks Buses
~Billy Breathes
:O)

But....

....Waste.
*
*
no bad song representing.
Rift is great as well.

Happy, happy,

Joy, joy to ole Nappy! That musta been one hell of a night! I just did 11/8/69, phew, that one covers a lot of ground. Perhaps THE transitional axis show? 11/8/85 at work today thanks to Otis!
ROTARY PHONE; too funny, that’s one of the things I kept of my Mothers after she passed 3 years ago, her rotary on Wall Phone that was in her kitchen until right before we sold the place. I plan to eventually at least hang it somewhere (if not hot it up) as not only a remembrance, but to honor her Luddite self!
Old Lee Estee and the gang used to be able to pump out a few gigiwatts on some nights! If only we could bottle the shit!
WAY BACK/SIXTUS and the gang; now if only Jim had that damn way back working he could swing by and pick us up and get us back to the Start of the Sixtus house warming shin dig!

Weird

Thanks vguy. I did that once (the 2 asterisks) but I was embarrassed it was a rookie way to delete post but now I feel (less) of a dolt thanks to you.

*....

....*

Luddite....

....a new word for me.

S.K.

Stephen kings the dark tower had a city called Lud. Creepy.

The Stones in 69

It must have been amazing to see them ( indoors) in 1969 - and with B.B. King and Ike and Tina Turner in support too. Get Yer Ya Ya's Out has never dated.
Having said that, I don't think I'll be rushing out to get the new super deluxe bells and no whistles 50th anniversary edition of Let It Bleed .

1 point 21 point 71 jizzawatts

Pretty much unknown show

Check it out

Wish 1 22 71 2nd set were available

Some good stuff in set 1

Stolztfus

Why are you up so early on a Saturday?
Did you catch a red eye to Boston last night so that you can attend the Sixti bash?

McGrupp216

Check your PM

Tapes

According to the Guardian newspaper this morning, there is a cassette revival taking place in Britain at the moment. Apparently, "Cassettes give every album an overture of clunk and rattle, and they confer a strange, transgressive mastery on the listener:" Also..."if you decide you don't like the music, you can just record over it with something better." Fancy that.

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