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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    On your mark, get set.....

    .....complain about being shut out of the ala carte sale.

  • JimInMD
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    Sushi Analogy

    A good way to look at it, and you're right.

    ok.. at least one D&C show next year.. if I get the chance I am gonna try and venture to see my old friends from the NE.. also, the PNW is on my vacation agenda sometime over the couple years.. I hear the Gorge is nice. I will just make sure this hits the budget as a social adventure.. :D

    Be good all.. it's after 12 here meaning we are on the downward slide 'til the weekend.

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    According to my calculations, which admittedly are being made before my morning coffee is finished, the average ticket cost has outpaced inflation. Per this site, the average ticket price is just short of $100.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/380106/global-average-music-tour-ti…

    Seems high to me in general, but not for the most popular groups. Most of the shows that i'm seeing are between $25 - $75. If you inflate $10.00 from 1968 at 3% annually you end up at $46.50 - seems about in line with what i'm seeing.

    But for the most popular acts, the business model has changed. Sales of physical music, mostly CDs, have plummeted for the last 20 years.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/186772/album-shipments-in-the-us-mu…

    Since the music industry is no longer making any money from album sales, prices live music have been pushed up to compensate. Of course its more complicated than that, but in general that's what happened.

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    I always think of ticket prices in terms of sushi. When I take my girlfriend out for sushi, we almost always spend about $150. (We always drink, of course.) She loves sushi, while I would be just as content with a six inch tuna from subway, as long as I had a Newcastle to wash it down.

    So, that's my tipping point. Is it worth a sushi dinner to see this band?

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    Orobor - 10-15-83 Was there also,,,, was that you all fucked up yelling, "Alone Again Naturally", "Alone Again",, "fuckin Jerry".

    I think JiminMD and I were at a lot of the same shows, 80's east coast. Wish I had caught a west coast show or two.

    I can ALWAYS take an "Eyes", best last line, "sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"

    Show cost - yeah, totally agree. I see the prices on old tickets and think wow. But, I remember back in the day when you needed to sent a money order for a tour, for 2 people it added up to a sum that was hard to come by back then.

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    RE: AJS, Very Valid Points

    I wanted to add.. and perhaps you beat me to the punch.. that artists have the right to charge whatever they want for ticket prices and it's up to us to decide whether we want to go. Keeping ticket prices so low post In The Dark encouraged many more people to show up at shows than there were tickets.. which created huge crowd control problems in the later years and ultimately much turmoil, distress and one could argue created a public health issue.. people died. ...but that's really on us fans for being idiots and going when we should have stayed home.

    Part of me thinks charging so much will affect the crowd that comes.. and that the crowd won't be the same thereby affecting the entire scene. Partly true, but perhaps AJS is right, the times have changed, the population has almost than doubled since my early show seeing days and the # of venues surely hasn't kept pace.. perhaps a greater evil is TicketNazi and the consolidation of venue owners.. the artists, although culpable, are to an extent along for the ride and subject to market forces and changes in fan behavior.

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    three angry rants about missing the Daves33 sale.

    by 4:00

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    Gone by 3:00 pm CST.

    22000 this year.

    What does the winner get? Signed copy of DaP #1?

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    My perspective and apologies in advance to those I might offend.

    I laughed when I heard that the Eagles were charging $300 per ticket. But it makes sense. Bands like that don't tour that often, so folks are willing to pay up. More importantly, they are mainstream. Lot's of people like the music, so you are drawing from a larger pool of suckers.

    The Dead were mostly a fringe band with a very loyal following. Out of generosity (or whatever you want to call it), they kept prices low. Towards the end prices did begin to rise as the hordes descended, but they never got really out of control.

    Dead & Co. has attracted an entire new generation of fans who are well funded and think nothing of spending $14 for avocado toast. Dead & Co. seem to be pushing the envelope to see what they can get away with. Good for them. You earned it boys. Yup, it does suck for us old-timers who may want to go, but that is reality.

    It's just not for me. The music is too slow and Garcia ain't standing up there. It's my choice on how to spend discretionary money.

    For the price of ONE general admission ticket to Dead & Co., I can fly to Europe. For the price of those Mexican sandbox shows (which I don't think even included airfare and sell out in days), I can take my entire family to Europe for ten days. All in. Airfare, food, lodging, drinks, museums, etc. Everything. Then at night, I can pop open a nice bottle of Bordeaux or Umbrian red to keep the day's glow going and stream the Europe 72 show that they played in the theater down the street.

    I just refuse to pay those prices. There are too many other cool things to do in life and I can still enjoy the music.

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    Anyone want to predict the over under for later on today's Dave's pre-order. bob t

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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The Stones for your 19th bday sounds fun.

The only bday show I ever saw was ZZ Top in 92 or 93. Had a good time but had to then drive 2.5 hours home in a snow storm (in a post-show frame of mind). Took it safe, drank beer the whole way, and made it without any issues.

Listening to GD 11-8-69 right now, just what I needed to get Saturday going.

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You motivated me to jump straight to Dark Star since I only have 45 minutes. The UJB Jam used to be in heavy rotation back in my cherry pickin' days.

I'm still loving this Spectrum show. I was reading Hippie Chick's comment about the bass drum. It's funny. When I listen in the car it's much more pronounced than when I listen to it in the car than on headphones. Weird. Sounds much better on the headphones for whatever reason.

Stones in '69 is my cup of tea; their first tour with Mick Taylor. '72 even more so. Anyone enjoying '69 who doesn't have Ladies and Gentlemen The Rolling Stones on Blu Ray or CD. There is also a '73 download available from their website called The Brussels Affair.

....5.21.95. Sam Boyd Silver Bowl. Grateful Dead. My buddies and I did a march around the floor during intermission. Thumbs up from plenty of the crowd.
Speaking of birthdays, my family is currently in Elko, NV visiting a couple of our daughters and grandkids and lo and behold, my stepdaughters dog was apparently pregnant. #6 just arrived.

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Nobody called me? This is my pot of coffee! You want to watch the documentary film Stones in Exile.

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Has anyone in the UK received their copy of Dp32 yet?
No tracking information provided with shipping notification sent on 5 th Nov so don’t know when it will arrive or who is bringing it after the last UPS fiasco.
Making me hesitant to do the next year sub.

Went back to Go to Nassau yesterday. For me there is just something about 1980 that I just love. This release, from way back in 2002, sounds top notch. Interesting to me that there are no recording credits on this one. I wonder what the source was? Multi Track, dat? And Arista, is listed as well as Grateful Dead Productions. I wonder why, did the Dead owe them another live release?
Anyway, if you don't have it and you like 1980, this rocks and it is relatively inexpensive still.
So, why have there been so few 1980 releases to date for such a great year for the boys?
Zero Dick's Picks, one Road Trips and one Dave's Picks so far. And no, I don't consider 12/4/1979 a 1980 release. Just like we don't consider 12/31/76 a 77 release or 12/31/78, a 79 release.

Would love to see them dig into this year a little more and of course the big enchilada in the fall.

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And the winterland 1973 complete recordings box set. This is a lot of people's favorites 73. Got the Darkstar going right now... I think I've listened to the new Daves picks about 20 times now so it's a good time to switch it up.

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Maybe Arista paid for multi-track recordings of those Nassau shows, and maybe other shows from that tour, with the intention of releasing a live album.
Dead Set came out on Arista, but was recorded in the fall.
If there are other good sounding recordings from spring 80 let’s have some released in 2020 for the 40th anniversary.

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Curious about something. Around 5:52 minutes into Truckin', right at the end of the beautiful buildup, it sounds like there might be a glitch in the recording?...or maybe that's just how it was played?... or maybe its just my copy? ...Or maybe I'm crazy and I'm just hearing things that aren't there? I wonder if anyone else noticed this. Trying to seek out some more info before I ask the Dr to send me a replacement disc...

CHARLY

No sign here, but since I don’t know how it has been sent I’m not worried. If they used the USPS, as they did for #29 it could easily be December before it arrives. They always manage to sort out problems so I have already subscribed for 2020. Don’t miss out on the reduced price subscription.

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No, I haven't received it yet, nor would I expect to for another few weeks. I havent received any notification, but that doesn't worry me either, I have to say.
And I have subscribed for next years Dave's Picks. There have been problems in the last year, but they have all been sorted out to my satisfaction. There may be trouble ahead, as they say, but I would rather take the risk than miss out on the shows.

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I am for sure with you on releasing more Spring 1980! All of 1980 works for me. I don't see too many weak spots, but I am sure there are a few.

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Multi-track. I love the opening 1-2 punch of Jack Straw => Franklin's Tower. I don't recall Jerry ever attacking the main Tower riff or solos quite like this one in the 70s. I could be mistaken about this, but I think that may actually be the second set of one of the nights that they open up the Nassau CD with. Also a pretty darn good Playin in the Band. I have a 1980 playlist with those three plus Feel Like a Stranger from DaP 8, and Shakedown Street & Brokedown Palace from Dead Set. Just to scratch that 1980s that crops up now and then... ShopRite

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Go To Nassau is a two disc release pulled from three shows, and it is sourced from multi-track analogue tapes. Makes me wish they did a three show box instead of a two disc wonder..

They recorded it in multi-track because it made its way to FM as part of the King Biscuit Flower Hour. I think I actually taped it from the radio when it was played, or a part of it at least, I don't have it now and it has been a long time. I wonder if King Biscuit owns any of the music? That could explain why so much of the three show run was not released.

Looking into this more.. it looks like King Biscuit did a three LP, five side release as part of an anniversary nod which makes ownership rights of some of this music even more mysterious. I didn't know about this. I bet it is going to drive Dennis nuts.. as I doubt if he has it either.

https://www.discogs.com/The-Grateful-Dead-King-Biscuit-Flower-Hour-15th…

Wow, there is a multi-track recording of one of the four Morning Dews from the year that is yet unreleased.

As for more 1980, I wish they would partner with Dr. Bob Wagner for another Matrix similar to Dave's Picks 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theatre. It sounds so good and is a nice compliment to some of the flatter sounding boards of the time.

One last comment,…. as much as we all love Gainesville, I don't think the first set circulates as a soundboard.. which makes me think it might not exist. If this is the case, I wouldn't expect Gainesville to get official release treatment. Just my guess.

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Candyman was included as part of 30 Days of Dead in 2013 and it sounds like a board.

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Well.. that's encouraging. The Wagner sounds excellent as does the Jim Wise recording. Who doesn't think 11/30 is the best sounding 80's Dave's Picks?

I think someone needs to ask Dave is both sets are in the vault?

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then in eleven short years we can look forward to the second set of Gainesville being the bonus live material for the 50th-anniversary release of Go To Heaven! :)

And I guess in twenty years we'll get some sweet 1989 show, along with the 50th-anniversary release of Built To Last!

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Tons of good stuff. A soundboard would be very welcome.

Set 2 of 1/22/71, wherefore art tbou?

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Here in the U.K. if only the gap between dave’s was always like this , 31 only arrived about a month and a half ago !
Un-spun as on my way to work but will dive right in upon my return . 😺😺

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Arrived safely in the UK with no extra charges. Maybe the new warehouse has finally sorted things out?

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5/1/80

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Can anyone who ordered internationally this time let me know how Vol. 32 was shipped? UPS? Fedex? The last two volumes were shipped with UPS and it was easy to track down. This time there's nothing written in the section about shipping info.

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Still no sign of mine here in the UK, IanM, Perithecat who delivered your copies?

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Sent by Direct Sh*t /Warner Group from Franklin, IN with UPS Mail Innovations Economy to a distribution centre in Zurich, Switzerland. Then sent by Swiss Post Economy to the United Kingdom where it was delivered by Royal Mail.

There is a UPS barcode number (which you only know after delivery) but the UPS website only tracks it within the USA:

05/11/2019 20:00 Edgewood, NY, United States Package transferred to post office
04/11/2019 7:36 EDGEWOOD, NY, United States Package processed by UPS Mail Innovations origin facility
01/11/2019 18:28 EDGEWOOD, NY, United States Package received for processing by UPS Mail Innovations

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I have all three Nassau shows in stock, first one sounds like good soundboard, middle show is an ok audience and the last show good audience. Found it odd they did Sailor -> Saint all three nights, must have been new.

Jim, odd page on King Biscuit. Page said show was 6/22/80 in NYC, I show NO show on 6/22 and the radio city shows weren't until October. No breakdown on what dates for what shows the songs came from. Charlie Miller seems to say lp cuts were from 15th and 16th. I see no Terrapin on the Go to Nassau, but it is on the King Biscuit cut. King Biscuit wiki page says they had a fire that took out a lot of the tapes they had.

The Nat King Cole box set.... I think Cousins said his friend wrote the section of the booklet about Oscar Moore, very nice. In fact I found the whole booklet very interesting and I usually don't read they things. Now I only need to learn what a flatted fifth is. ( I doubt it's an empty bottle) GREAT box set in any event. One of the things that amaze me is how short the songs are and yet the tension and resolution can be amazing. The cover of Caravan is incredible. In less than 3 minutes they jam and return to the Caravan theme so smoothly!

I believe that 6/22 date is when the show aired. I remember that was my High School graduation as I recall taping it off the radio while all my relatives were in the backyard wondering where the hell I was lol. I still have it and think I tried to figure out what song was from when and tried to combine with Go To Nassau tracks in a feeble attempt to get it all in order. I think the track listing on that link looks like the tracking from my tape of the radio broadcast, but I’m at work and would have to look it up...

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The warehouse Ian is referring to in Franklin IN is exactly 18 miles from my house. Not only have I not received my order, I haven't even received a shipping notice yet. When I called those wonderful folks at customer service they said I should be receiving a notice in a week or so. I swear Dead.net has outsourced their customer service to my cable company. Am I somehow being penalized because I live close? I don't even want to put in writing the thoughts that go through my head every day when I drive by said warehouse.

I have always equated the Dead to good vibes. Peace and love. But come on. I have ordered everything they have released through Dead.net. I used to receive my order on the day, or if the stars were aligned, the day before the release date. Those were the days!

Is anyone important reading these threads and paying attention to how frustrated the customers are that are responsible for their job security???

Ooops.. I see Oroborous already addressed the Aired on 6/22/1980 part. Makes what I wrote a minute ago redundant.

So are you saying you have that three LP vinyl that was released all those years ago? It's so rare, I am not even finding it on eBay or Amazon. I had never heard of it before.

I think those lp's were only for distribution to member stations and not for retail sale, that's why they had 'cue' marks. (if I read the wiki page right)

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Talking about the 2002 Go To Nassau release makes me think again of why they don't release other shows outside of Dave's Picks and the annual box set. Seems to me that there is a ton of material still out there, certainly a lot of multi track, and other options. What is preventing them from putting more out? I know there is only one Jeffrey Norman, so hire additional staff and make it happen. Anyway, just a dream of mine that won't happen, but a man can dream.
More money for the Company and more music for the fans, how could you lose on that idea?

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Tramjams...every body who reads these posts is important. Any good vibes associated with The Dead are alive and well with the posters on here and those who read them...not with dead.net.

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Good call Daverock. Had to let the negative vibes out. Knew you all would understand. Now it's all positive going forward. Dead Ahead!

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DV, they do release some outside of dead net. The Red Rocks show from July 8th 1978 and Cornell are a couple of recent examples. I think the main reason we don't see a whole lot of them is because they generally do not release two track recordings outside of these dead net programs anymore. I think the examples I gave from 1977 and 1978 are exceptional recordings so they're comfortable releasing those. Also they are very well known shows so they stand a good chance of selling a lot of them in the open market. Long Strange Trip was also released, as well as a best of compilation from 30 Trips Around the Sun. Beyond that I don't think there really that many multi-tracks left. At least not from the 60s and 70s. There is the 1971 Port Chester run and the 1971 Fillmore East run. Fillmore East has the problem of guests, which always makes it more difficult to release. There is a show from around Dave's Picks 18 from the Orpheum in 1976 that is a multitrack and has not been released. There is the Grateful Dead movie soundtrack run, but I don't know that there's a whole lot to salvage from that, is there? This discussion comes up once in awhile and it always seems that most of the high grade songs from that run were included in the soundtrack. They probably have a ton of stuff from the 90s that they just don't think will sell. I'll bet there could be some from the late 80s but they seem to be really hit or miss. The RFK box set that had just the two shows sold slow. The Giants Stadium box that went fast. The shows are basically in the same week right? Beats me. They also must feel like they've reached out and reeled in the Grateful Dead listening market right here on dead net. There are distribution fees and all kinds of monetary disincentives to distribute through what's left of the brick-and-mortar stores. The internet killed my business that's for sure.

TJ, they do have a notice up saying that their warehouse moved and that there would be some delays. Sounds fair enough to me.

....needs to open their ears. Ha! Back in Vegas after a quick jaunt to Elko checking on a couple of stepdaughters. One is in bad shape. Here's to words of wisdom from ole' dad. I hope they stick. 'sigh'
I started with "Don't do meth". Day late. Dollar short it seems 😕. My wife and I left depressed and in tears.

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Hope it turns out better for the kid. You tried.

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....my stupid thumb sometimes has a mind of its own. Anywho, pray, or if you don't pray, give good vibes to my stepdaughter. She needs it in a big way. Much thanks.
She's 40 btw. All grown up. Or is she?

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After sugaree Bobby tells people from the cheap seats to stop whistling. Cracked me up. Of course they do it more. Dolts. I'm sure I would have been one of those dolts in my days.

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Man, it's 18°F outside. 2 days ago it was 55°F.

True story..

Happened when I was a kid just before my brother was taken to the Emergency room to get stitches for the first time. My mom says, "stop playing with that knife."

18 degrees here too. Winter begins... exactly.. wait for it.. NOW.

....DaP 23 does not have a Cumberland. Golly gee willikers. I need to get my Head straight. Has a nice Row Jimmy in its place though. How's that for a save? My wife likes it. Therefore I like it. The women aren't always smarter. DOH!

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I'm sorry to hear your respective stories about family members.

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