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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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  • stoltzfus
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    My disappearance didn't take

    Those who diss 9 2 83

    You are WRONG.

    Plenty hot.

  • carlo13
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    Keithfan the wallbanger

    I was a freshman in H.S. at this time. I remember my uncle buddy had a homemade stereo and amp. With the colored lights and switches and the black and white 'the who' poster with the arrow pointing up from the big H. I also remember he had a Harvey wallbanger poster in 1974 which was the new cocktail at the time. Orange juice and Galliano. The old days.

  • KeithFan2112
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    This guitar only has seconds to live....

    Daverock, hats off for knowing Pete's studio guitar on Who's Next. I bought the LP in October of '83 (I can remember an astounding number of dates up through college years). I was in 6th grade at the time, and had gotten into The Who shortly after It's Hard came out the previous year. I remember being hooked on Athena from the radio, and then Christmas of '82 I went up to Buffalo, where my extended family lived. My cousin and I spent most of our days listening to music (and eventually, most of our nights drinking). Well that year we delved into my Uncle's album collection, which consisted of at least 7 crates of rock music. He put on Baba O'Riley from The Concerts for the People of Kampuchea (excellent live version in their first touring year without Moon). We just kept playing it over and over, probably 20 times that week. I think it's safe to say that's when I became a Who-Head.

    Anyway, I'm babbling at this point, but let it suffice to say I eventually bought the Who's Next Deluxe Version, and learned through the extensive liner notes the history behind Lifehouse; the abandoned Who's Next recording sessions from the Record Plant in NY (featuring Leslie West on several of tracks; AND the the Gretsch 6120 he used to record the album, which was given to him by Joe Walsh.

    Rare trivia that perhaps only one other person I could think of other than Uncle Gary might be aware of off the top of their head, and that is Kevin Brandon, who posts here periodically and is also a Who-head.

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    Marye's Wonder Woman comment....

    ....has left me scratching my head. 1984? Which is the name of the new movie?

  • KeithFan2112
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    Ha marye

    Took me a minute to get your Wonder Woman comment, but now I'm up to speed.

    Checking out 12/12/72. I've had the Bird Song in a 73/74 Bird Song folder awhile, but the time's come to get more of the show in. With limited time on my hands, it's always the (75% of the time) reduced audio quality of the soundboard recordings that send me into the Normanized archives. But the tracks I grabbed from this 12/12/72 show (aka Return To Winterland) sound pretty solid from an audiophile standpoint.

    Me and Bobby McGee - exceptionally good I would venture to say.

    Tennessee Jed - this song has been steadily growing on me for 5 years. 1972-73 is real nice. It's the instrumental jam about 4 or minutes in

    Playing In The Band - as good as the Europe 72 versions are, they get longer as the year goes on, and they good longer in a rocked out jammin kind of way, as opposed to a spaced-out jazzy kind of way (which believe you me has its place in Dead Greatness).

    Even Around and Around sounds great.

    That's as far as I've gotten.....Keith is raging loud. I wonder if Betty recorded this. They're really all pretty much raging loud.

    I'm sure none of this 12/12/72 business isn't news to a lot of you, but it's melting my face at the moment so I thought I'd pass it along.

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    Completely Different
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    It would be awesome if they made software that allowed you to make your own mix from a multi-track source, and the CDs (like Veneta) came with a second CD / DVD that contained each of the tracks. Then you just open your software program, put your DVD in your drive on your computer, and load the tracks for each song. From there a virtual soundboard would come up that allows you to start mixing. Even cooler would be if there were effects you could put on each of the tracks. I would turn up Jerry and add more distortion in a lot of spots. I would turn Keith up on most of Europe '72, I would substitute Donna's scream on Playing in the Band with Daltrey's from Won't Get Fooled Again. I would have multiple mixes for all songs. Turn up Billy for that "rock out hard" mix.

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    Keith - I agree that The Who only really found their live sound once Townsend strapped on a Gibson SG. On the original studio album of Tommy, they still sound like a pop band to me. On Live At Leeds/Hull/Isle of Wight they were well and truly rocking out, 70s style. For better or worse.

    Interestingly ( if you are a nerd like me) the SG that Pete played actually had single coil pickups - P90s. Other players who used SGs with P90s on their early albums were Robbie Krieger, Santana and, surprisingly, Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath. And he had a sound that could topple a factory.

    Also...Pete's premier studio axe in the 1970s seems to have been a Gretsch 6120, albeit one loaded with humbucking filter tron pickups. That great guitar sound on Won't Get Fooled Again?...its a Gretsch Chet Atkins Country Gentleman by all accounts.

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    has left the building. Moving right along...
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    I am on the same wavelength as LedDed as far as Jerry and the Alligator Nash Strat (the Fender Strat has that smoothness about it that suited Jerry's style so well). Somebody on this site recently said that they couldn't think of anyone who made a Stratocaster sound as good as Jerry did (it may have even been LedDef). That comment stuck with me.

    But I also love the pure power and volume of the the SG that Daverock talks about. I think it's a toss up between Pete Townshend and Angus Young on who put that sound to greatest effect, as far as overall career impact. Townshend built an empire on it that far outlived his personal use of the guitar; you've only to listen to Live at Leeds or Isle of Wight '70 to appreciate what the SG did for The Who in '69 / '70. It's the guitar that gave Tommy a set of balls. It played a very similar role in the Dead's evolution as a band, and IMHO may have been the most impactfing facet of the Live Dead sound and success (along with the record's engineering distinction as the first live 16 track recording - this brought out an incredible "harmonic" that was spearheaded by the SG).

    But for me, the real magic would be taking somebody with the artistic virtuoso talent that might be very well suited for that smooth polished sound of the Fender Strat, and placing the Gibson SG in his hands. Imagine that. If only such a player existied. A slick player who is both fast and gentle, picking through the glowing hot interlacings of those sharp SG strings and unforgiving pickups. Whew. And then if he could glide seamlessly from lead to rhythm at need (whatever it took to serve the song). But alas, no such man exists.
    Just a fantasy band, so I may as well take a step further and pair this divinely talented wielder of the SG with a tight riff-master who could lay simple but tasty groundwork for our lead player to weave his way over, under, and alongside . Then you'd have the makings for something extraordinary and unparalleled. But this kind of talent.... simply...... doesn't...... wait.....he does exist! And his name is Reggie Hammond. No wait, that's a movie. His name is Mick Taylor.

  • daverock
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    Great guitars

    I would say I prefer single coil guitars to humbuckers generally-although my tastes are more inclined towards telecasters than strats. I could list dozens of players, but mention of the great Otis Redding puts me in mind of Steve Cropper of the MGs, and all the great records he played on with Otis, and at Stax generally during the 60s.

    For pure sound + eye candy a large bodied Gretsch is hard to beat-especially a 6120 or a White Falcon. I'm lucky enough to have a 6120 with a single coil dynasonic at the bridge and a P90 at the neck, a la Eddie Cochran. I'm no great shakes on the guitar...but you wouldn't believe the sound this thing makes. You can get slapback echo even before you plug it in.

    With Jerrys SG I just liked the sound of the single string solos he did with it. You could perform open heart surgery with that tone.

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    ... Everyone that reads this message should go immediately to the nearest way they can listen to Otis Redding. I promise you will be happier after than you were before. G'damn MG's!

    Peace

    - Otis? I think he was only 26 when he passed... plane crash. Tell me he doesn't sing like a man that knows about it all. Kinda like Jerry.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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I received a damaged Dave's 32, ripped box, broken plastic and scratched discs. I emailed and haven't heard back. I am really excited about this release but disappointed I haven't heard from anyone yet... Has anyone else had a problem? I'm frustrated I can't get a hold of a real person. Help!

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Deej, there's an 800 number for customer support somewhere on this website. I couldn't find it but take a look around. Normally when you email customer support you get a generic response that is automated and opens a ticket number for you. If that didn't happen I would go with a second email plus a phone call. If you can't find the phone number on the site Google it. I'm driving or I'd look it up for you.

Vguy I'm sorry man. I put in a prayer for you and your daughter.

There is a good block of Music in the taperssection from Jerry's birthday in 1973. It begins with dark star then goes El Paso, eyes of the world, morning dew. In the immortal words of V guy, Morning Dew ain't no filler! If internet stories are to believed B, believed I mean be believed, this is the last show Jerry used the Nash Strat AKA Alligator. I'm going to do the trick where I started at the same time as I start the copy I have on my phone, and I'm going to get that cool vibratoe effect. We'll save that for work. I wonder if it sounds better than the copy that I have... Unlikely, mysource is impeccable. Sorry about all the spelling errors. Voice translator is doing particularly poor this morning., or my speech is just slurred, which is a distinct possibility before my second cup of coffee. Oh I shouldn't even be driving before two cups of coffee, but I like to save one for work.

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Sorry about your delivery, but it's good to see another Minnesotan around these parts! (I'm assuming, given the Mpls in your name) You, DeadVikes, me . . .

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I'm happy to hear that some have received their orders (whether purchased via subscription or a la carte),. As a DP subscriber since Day 1, it's incredibly frustrating that it's been two weeks of radio silence since V32 started hitting mailboxes. Nothing left to do but... well, you know.

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I hear someone saying all Dave's prior to this went fine. Now, "I've hit a snag" on this one. That's a pretty damn good average. We are so used to getting everything we want, when we want, NOW!! All will be resolved, it always is. If you aren't in the ICU right now, maybe getting a cd late should be not too big a deal. Sheesh!!

Regarding sick relatives, I have a niece who found a guy with a drug problem, and she was going to SAVE him. She now has 2 kids, dad is out of jail but not reliable at all, and she's been addicted for 5 or more years. I now know that all I CAN do is pray. I've told her mother(my sister)that I am willing to go the extra 100 miles to help(take to rehab, take to meetings, help understand recovery), but until she is willing to ACCEPT help, there is absolutely nothing I can do. She will likely die if she can't detox soon. It's a very sad story I've seen way too many times in my life. Friends, acquaintances, co-workers. It's awful. Apparently "Just Say No" didn't work.

Best King Biscuit broadcast was the one culled from 10/6/77 (although some have debated the date) It has the best(IMO...) post-hiatus NFA, long & fast, makes a detour by MLBJ, then melts into Black Peter and comes right back to NFA at full speed. As good as any late '71 NFAs.

LOVE that Nat box; discovered that what I though were Vibraphone solos in some of these tunes, were actually played by Nat on a Celeste, really cool sound(I think TC used a celeste on Anthem of the Sun). Interesting version of Russian Lullaby in there too.

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For all those sitting there in limbo, I am as well. I was so excited about this pick that I ordered one for a buddy. That one was delivered on 11-5-19. My subscription version hasn't even triggered a "Your Order is on the Way!" e-mail.

How this could possibly be the case is beyond my overtaxed, undernourished and haltingly functioning brain, but it is nonetheless the case.

V-Guy, sorry to hear about your troubles. Family issues are never easy to deal with. I hope things turn out for the good.

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...What oroborous said!

Be Well My Man.
SIxtus

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send me a PM with the details and I'll see what the Doc can do.
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all good to you and your family.
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....that you were blocked by your step-daughter, which just happened. When the going get tough, the tough put on 6.17.91 Blu Ray. Deadhead therapy is severely underrated. Take that Frasier Crane. It's out of my hands apparently.
Anyone else notice how shiny Vince's fingernails are? They literally sparkle. Lol.
The Jerry/Bruce bromance is REAL.
Thank you marye.....
The lyric " close the gap of the dark years between you and me" just hit home. Amazing.

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Hang in there Vguy. The Dead has always been good therapy.

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....during Might As Well is the shit. Love it. Thank you deadvikes. I came here to bare my soul and you all didn't disappoint. I love you all. Thanks for putting up with me.

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Been on a jazz run lately . . .

Lee Konitz--Very Cool
Betty Carter--Look What I Got
Chet Baker & Crew
Amber Rubarth--Sessions From the 17th Ward (what an amazing-sounding recording!)
Public Enemy--Fear of a Black Planet

And I finally made it to the second 1973 show from the PNW box.

From this past year, I have LOVED DaP 29 (2/26/77) and the Giants box. The Aoxomoxoa bonus disc was quite sweet as well.

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I don't know if someone else commented but the 5:52 into trucking was a quick hi- hat strike and step which sounds cool. So to me it's a no glitch. It could have been a regular cymbal strike back to back too.

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When i was trading tapes back in Mid 80's to early 90's, i really lacked a lot of good quality shows from 11/13/78 Boston to their last show on 2/17/79. There were just not a lot out there. 11/24/78 Cap Theatre in Passaic from the radio broadcast, 12/30/78 Pauley Pavilion, and Closing of Winterland (Also with my VHS copy that i got in 1988. Also my favorite unique show that I never have spoken about on here, 11/20/78 Set II from Cleveland Music Hall with the last If I had the World to Give. The Rock for Life show from 2/17/79.. I' m listening to 11/18/78 Uptown Charlie Miller Board right now... If any of you have any recommendations from these 40 odd shows, that i haven't really ever listened to that much please let me know.... Thanks.... Bob t

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I had Day Job therapy today. Time to wash it away with some ripping Grateful Dead. Did someone mention therapy? This shit beats the hell out of prozak…

(edit: minor clarification.. no, I didn't listen to day job for therapy, I need therapy because of my day job)

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I forgot how great the Ramones first album is

high energy stuff

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Enjoying the latest Dave's Picks from 3/24/73. Very good show. I did not think the previous spring 73 shows from Springfield and Boston were outstanding. Glad to have this Philadelphia show.

previous Spring 73 not outstanding?

WHA'???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I disagree, good sir.

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Now here's something to chew....been waiting for something like this from Garcia Saunders.

Garcia Saunders 1.23.73 Boarding House San Francisco....release date 12.20.19!!!

So flippin' funky.....absolute smoker!!!!

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12/12/78 (nice board)
12/17/78 (get the one with the bob interview and both audience and board to get the whole show)

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.... underrated in this day. This is why I visit here.

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We're with you man.. we're already working on for your re-election, Senator. Your future is bright.

As for previous spring, I might be of the inclination that Springfield was a better show but I like Boston more. That recording sparkles for the era and I think it might just sound better than the Spectrum. I do like the performance of the Spectrum the best though.. disc 3 is hot, the Sunshine also shines.. and the PITB and Stella Blue? Wowwow stuff, but admittedly I have a '73 bias.

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I agree with stoltzy. Whaaaaaaaa??? This Dap is so good it belongs in a leather briefcase to be shown to new dead fans as to how it was to see them in the day. Not judging, just saying. Peace.

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I dig all three of the Spring '73 Dave's Picks - DaP 16 Springfield 3/28/73, DaP 21 Boston 4/2/73, and DaP 32 Philadelphia 3/24/73, but I am most partial to the Springfield, for the Dark Star - Eyes of the World sequence. Boston is a close second for me, and I think Jim may be right about the sparkling recording quality, I would say that the sound quality of the Boston recording just edges out the recording quality of the Springfield show, but not by much. Both are excellent quality to my ears. The Philadelphia recording sounds fine to me, and the I dig the show as well, particularly discs 2 and 3. While it is not my favorite of the 3 Spring '73 DaPs, it is a great addition to the other two shows and that whole disc 3 sequence is fantastic. I like to have a series of shows just for the variation. In any case, the three of these releases are a trinity of bliss from my point of view.

Vguy, sorry to hear about troubled family members. That is a suck deal for you and Mrs. Vguy, my condolences.

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I emailed DL a couple of years ago about possible release of any Godchaux shows from Jan / Feb '79. He said there are no tapes.

In my pursuit of Dark Stars I found a good AUD recording of 1/10/79, with Dark Star, Shakedown, Miracle, and Stagger Lee. It's no Betty Board, but it's recorded very evenly, so once you get used to the initial sound, there aren't really any rough spots. It's up on archive.

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I thought you would be bigger. "Opinions vary".
For my elephant ears the Boston Garden show, Dave's 21 is the cream of the crop so far for the Spring 73 tour. I still need to listen to Dave's 32 again after listening to other releases. However, there are some issues with the sound. 21, on the other hand, there are no issues with the sound at all. I agree with Carlo, this belongs in a sealed box!
And then for me, the 30 Trips show from 11/14/73, might even be better than Dave's 5, 11/17/73, which still sits in the top 3. Unfortunately the order of the songs are changed. Don't forget that Denver show from 11/20, just unreal.
Again opinions vary.

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I really like this release. I was in the right frame of mind late Saturday and played highlights of disc 2-- I absolutely love the Here Comes Sunshine, Playing in the Band and the China Cat. The Playing jam is especially straight forward-- exactly how I like them (my favorite era for this song is late Europe 72 through 1973). The China Cat transition jam by Bob and into Jerry is especially good on this one. Love it. And disc 3-- not much needs to be said, love the backwards Dark Star and I had forgotten how great Truckin' was in 1973. This is a great one.

All three of the DaP early 1973 releases are stellar. All shows have tight first sets/discs with more exploratory 2nd discs and then out there 3rd discs. Having all three really gives us youngsters (first show in 88) an idea of what a typical show was like in this period. Can't pick a favorite-- I think like Jim, the last one I listened to is my current favorite.

Re: disc issues, I had the disc issue with DaP 28 and got the replacement discs. The third one worked fine. However, a strange issue arose since then with some of the cds not playing in my car stereo. For example, for the new release, discs 1 and 3 play fine. I started disc 2 on a morning commute and got a couple minutes into Playing and arrived at destination. Next car start-up, I get a "CD is unreadable" message from the player/computer. That cd still won't play in the car, but does play in player at home. Similar issues with all the releases this year. I have had no problem ripping the cds or playing them on home player, though.

My theory-- cd manufacturing is so far down from 10 years ago because of streaming that the profit margins are getting squeezed and producers are putting out inferior product as a result. I don't buy much hard product outside of the Dave's Picks, so can't compare to other more mainstream releases. We haven't had a price increase in 9 years, maybe a slight increase in cost and profit could help pay the cd producers a bit more and help with quality assurance. Just a thought.

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Thanks for they help. I followed the steps with the email, but the 800 numbers is only for ordering. Still haven't heard back. Currently wouldn't order anything else from Dead.net until they improve customer service. Seems I'm not alone. Hoping they read this stuff and improve things.

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1-15-79 2nd set!

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I have never gotten a defective CD from another band, but have gotten at least one per year for the last several years from GD/Rhino.
No defective CD’s in the Pink Floyd Box, Bear’s Sonic Journals (Janis, ABB), JGB Electric Eel, etc.
The Rhino CD’s are thinner, indicating that they are trying to cut costs by using less plastic. I suspect that they also are trying to cut costs by making the metal layer thinner too, but that is where the data is stored.

For each of the last few subscription periods I have contemplated getting 2 subscriptions as a hedge against defective CD’s, but then decided that I would most likely get 2 copies of any defective CD, and would have to do twice the work trying to get replacements.

I’m really quite shocked that the GD Organization allows Rhino to operate this way with their music. Maybe it was written into the contract that Rhino would have exclusive rights to the GD Vault, but didn’t actually have to produce a quality product or provide quality customer service.

Seems that Garcia Family control of the Jerry Vault results in a better quality product and responsive customer service.

I am not a robot, but I wonder if robots would provide better quality control, warehousing and shipping logistics, and customer service.

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Is it possible to add a picture with my comment? It’s also quite possible that I’m missing something obvious.

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If you can imagine changing your address to another it can be a problem. The post office does not route all mail including magazines and other periodicals. You have to do this yourself by calling or emails. It takes several weeks sometimes. Now imagine you have hundreds of thousands if not millions of products from this and other countries to change addresses and warehouses and you can imagine the cluster*uck it can cause. Plus the number of incompetent moving companies driving around using a gps leading them to the sea and saying this does not look like a warehouse. So I can see their problem. Mabey stop taking orders till it's resolved or something to reduce the pressure.

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They removed the ability to post pictures when they switched/upgraded to the new website a year or so ago. Pics and embedded YouTube links are a thing of the past.

You can, however, still post links to erectile dysfunction cures, sites where you buy cheap internet and Chinese, North Korean or Russian bot websites though.. so if that's your thing, have at it. (kidding of course, and a big thanks to MaryE for removing all that stuff before it has a chance to corrupt our innocent minds).

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Removing Pictures........

They were replaced with reCRAPTCHA pictures.

There used to be so many pictures, videos, gifs, etc that you had to scroll through many pages a day just to read that day’s discussion.

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