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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • RobbZ
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    Good get Carlo...obviously the 7/7/78 show is the crown jewel, but I have the Arrowhead and St Paul shows consistently in rotation, and the box/packaging is pretty sweet as well, you won't be disappointed. I'm still kind of surprised it's still available....Enjoy.

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    I just purchased the July 78' box. Only like 25 left. Anyone like this box. It seems worth it.

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    Well, looks like my number finally came up. I've always felt lucky that my Dead.Net orders arrived in a timely fashion and undamaged (aside from a rare few scratched discs, and those only recently with the past couple Dave's Picks).

    But it's been almost three weeks since I ordered an extra Giants Stadium box set as a gift for a friend, and still no shipping notice. After numerous emails and phone calls, I finally received an apology via email. Seems Warners/Rhino put their faith in a warehouse that can't handle their business and, until they can, no shipping notice will be forthcoming.

    After the last FUBAR warehouse horror, I'd think someone would have learned. But, hey -- I can cancel my oder if I don't feel like waiting. They completely understand.

    Wonder how this will all play out with the new Dave's right around the corner and Ready or Not right after that.

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    Thanks, Charlie3. Glad I'm not alone. Even though I consider myself a forward thinker, I never much worried about everything going to the proverbial Hell in a hand basket. But with the flagrant fuckery that's been afoot for a while now, it sadly seems imminent.

    Almost everything I grew up with that was science fiction has become science fact and part of our day to day. Now they're talking robots being readily available within the next decade. Last damn thing I need is someone hacking into my domestic android so that it I can wake up to find it hovering over me in the middle of the night with glowing red eyes.

    Guess I'll just keep enjoying the music while I can and continue backing up my backups.

    Thanks for the additional info KeithFan. All seems about right. And I'd be right there beside you at the Halloween party. Much more my style.

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    I concur with ice cream cone kid. There's a whole bunch of articles with dick latvala on this one site, and in one of those he explains how the Grateful Dead were very particular about both the marketability of the two-track recordings and the quality of their performances when they first opened the vaults. From what I recall, Phil Lesh in particular had a very close ear on those early Dick's Picks releases. At the time, the conventional wisdom was that fans would not want to spend $25-$30 on a 3 disc mediocre sounding recording. I think even the stellar Betty Boards of 1977 were thought of as less marketable than a multi-track, and it seems they aired on the side of caution by keeping it to 2 discs. Even those two monsters at the Fillmore East were chopped up to ensure the "best songs" comprised the 3-disc set.

    Even road trips took that conservative approach on, what half of them? But I suppose markets change too. It's been so long since we saw Jerry that I think most people just want the full show vis a vis - Dave's Picks. I know I'd rather have the whole show. But when I was a casual fan, I would have been okay with probably two-thirds of a show like Dave's Picks Volume 4, I'm happy not to spend the extra money. But I think the hardcore fans are driving the market now and so we're seeing complete shows as a rule, and increased production numbers in Dave's Picks just about every other year.

    I have a house full of people for a Halloween party. Would rather have a bong hit in my headphones I'm sitting my glider chair with May 22nd 1977 complete in my ears. Not much of a talker.

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    Great Twighlight Zone reference, I remember that episode well. I also think about societal collapse and no way to listen to my CD's, but there are a number of ways to generate enough electricity to address that problem. I fear the EMP/Solar Coronal Mass Ejection scenario more just due to the fact that most of the electronics would be fried, thereby placing additional obstacles between me and listening to my CD's. Another Carrington Event would be a real bummer. Time to invest in a massive faraday cage maybe.

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    Like I said you get the Logitech first :-) you definitely got the better end of the deal. Send me your email.

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    Makes sense. I remember the transition from vinyl and cassette to CD all too well. Definitely pricey at the time, especially for those of us in the early stages of our trajectory. A double disc release was a big deal back then, and Dick's 3 falls right into that timeline. Maybe one day we'll get a newly mastered relaunch of the whole shebang.

    On the subject of backups, sounds like we ride the same vibe. I've got every release on FLAC and ALAC with only a few in MP320 (specifically both Spring 90 box sets), plus it's all burned onto CD's to play instead of the originals as well. And all of my backups are backed up on backups that are backed up on back ups.

    My greatest fear is that after society collapses, I'll be like Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode: surrounded by every note of Dead that I own with no way to listen to it.

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    Not quiiiiiiite the same

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    10 9 72

    a little "not quite there"

    So onward to 11 17 72

    I have heard somewhere that thats a good show

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    Watch the Best Buy website, a few times a year hard drives go on sale for good prices. I recently saw a WD 10 TB for $160, and WD 8 TB for $140. They will be at a really low price for about a week, then go back up, then a few months later drop again.

    I have 2 copies of backups on portable 5400 rpm HD’s at work, and a copy at home in a safe. The ‘in use’ HD’s are by the computers but only plugged in while being used. I have two RAID drives, each with two 6 GB WD Black HD’s mirrored as the master copies of AIFF and ALAC files. Also have HD’s with FLAC and AAC files. Those are all backed up on 7200 rpm HD’s, as well as the aforementioned 5400 rpm portables.
    And I’m still paranoid about losing it all.
    The reason for all the formats is various music players and my car which will play from a USB drive, but only lossy mp3, so I use ASC 320 kbps files which sound pretty good in the car.
    I also make CD-R copies of the official releases and use those in the living room. The official releases are packed away in plastic crates.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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Just when I thought they had mined the Jerry Merle cat pretty well they come up with a very interesting release. Got it and the poster too

It’s a ploy do get us all to switch to streaming.

Blank CD-R’s are also thinner.
CD-R plastic used to be polycarbonate with BPA in it. Maybe when BPA was removed from all products was also when the switch to thinner CD plastic was also made. Maybe bulk polycarbonate costs more to make when it doesn’t have BPA in it, so to balance the additional cost the CD was made thinner.
All speculation, I don’t know for sure.

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There's a title to a post called Re: Moving Pictures that has nothing to do with the Rush album, and there is another title to a post called Dark Star that has nothing to do with the song.

Streaming - not for me at this time. I only listen to the Dead and there is nothing that can replace my phone system where I have every release in chronological order plus soundboards in a second chronologically ordered list. To my knowledge there's still a ton of Grateful Dead limited edition material that you just can't get on the streaming services. Once in a while I'll pull out something different, but it doesn't make up for nearly the time I spend listening to the Dead so it would just be a waste of money. My last phase was the Rolling Stones leading up to 50th anniversary. That went on for about two years before I re-engaged the Grateful Dead.

Would love to know how artists and record companies make money anymore with all the streaming in piracy. It doesn't even sound possible to me but maybe I just needed properly explained. If I had to guess, I would say there is a direct correlation between streaming and piracy, and the high price of concert tickets. I have a feeling artist don't make nearly what they used to off of their recorded music from the studio oh, so they have to make their money on the road. But as far as I'm concerned I've seen all the good groups and I'd be surprised if a new one came along that caught my interest.

Dick's Picks 23 is rocking my optimal right now. Bobby comes through loud and clear on me and my uncle, and Tennessee Jed is no slouch either. And there's a 40-minute other one coming up... And then I'm going to listen to November 14th 1971, because I rarely go to that one and the ravings are out.

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On this day in GD history, they only played four shows...

1969 Lanai Theater, CA: Pig-fest with an Easy Wind, Next Time You See Me, Boss Man, Good Lovin', and a 48min Lovelight, for those into that sort of thing. However, I can't seem to find a decent recording - even the Charlie Miller transfer sounds muddy and warbly.

1971 Austin, TX: So hot, they released it as a Road Trips... Fall of 71 is smoking! 1st set Dark Star>El Paso>Dark Star, interesting and well played 2nd set that just EXPLODES into NFA>GDTRFB>NFA!

1972 OK City: Fall of 72 - the greatest period of Dead ever? I don't know, but I know it's in the conversation... All around solid show - 1st set begins with Bertha, Beat It On Down the Line, Bird Song...BBB... Bobby is mixed WAY high in the beginning of Bertha, and you can't really hear the rest of the band, but it's pretty cool to hear Bobby isolated, and the mix settles in about half-way through. 2nd set features a 30-min Playin, followed by Big RxR, which I think is a pretty great spot for that tune. Good stuff. Here's the link:

https://archive.org/details/gd1972-11-15.sbd.miller.110631.flac16/gd72-…

1987 Long Beach: 2nd Set - Scarlet>Fire>LLR>He's Gone>Drums>Space>The Other One>Morning Dew>Around Around>Watchtower E: Black Muddy River - That's a hell of a good looking set!

Happy Friday all... Hope everyone has a rockin' weekend!

Peace

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No, but thanks. :) Wait. Unless that goes into a 20-minute Victim and then one of those super-slow Terrapins with no jamming. :-O

I used to dutifully slog my way through every Lovelight, until the recently-released one where Pigpen talks about getting a gun to shoot a woman while he says something to this woman about, "Get out of here, C#%T!!" That put me off "Love"light (and to an extent, Pigpen) for good.

And yes--I, too, have had some damaged/defective discs the past few years, after having nothing but good luck for decades.

This October through December of 1973 stretch might be the Dead's best ever, to my ears. My notes for DaP 5 (11/17/73) ask if disc 2 is the best hour of GD EVER. I'm seeing a lot of 'A+' marks in my notes for this fall run.

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thank you all for the good reads, Vguy, good vibes sent your way, hang in there. I too have had a bad couple of months with family in the hospital. All is better now but the bills, over a quarter of a million for hospital stay, how can they justify these prices? one bill is for a nurse, not a doctor, to visit weekly, she is here for about 10 mins, that will be 189.50$ please. Medicaid, here we come. Never in my life have I not been able to pay a bill, but this one I guess the state will have to pick up. In this state, you can't have any assets over 3,000$ to qualify for Medicaid, so now we must become wards of the state. nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile and thank the universe that all pulled thru. Unfortunately, the prognosis is not that great and there will be many more visits to the specialists and the primary dr that will only increase this financial burden, but how do you put a cost on a loved ones life? You can't. I guess this will be the last year that I will be able to justify the expense of a Dave's Pick subscription, the state only accepts expenses that are essential and necessary, and according to them, the calming, therapeutic effect of Grateful Dead music does not qualify.
One thing is for sure, if you do not have insurance in this country, do not get sick, it will ruin you plus you will receive sub standard care, as you are now officially a "charity case". How did it get this bad? Why have all the health care professionals let this happen? What's worse is everyone knows it's all fucked up, but yet, they allow it to continue and do nothing but say "it's all messed up but that's what we have to work with". I do believe that the one candidate that stands up and says enough is enough about this health care crisis would win any election hands down, unfortunately, the insurance companies and the drug companies and the medical professionals will never let that happen, all in the name of greed.

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(Sam, sorry to hear about your plight!)

Yesterday was Give to the Max Day here in Minnesota; people are encouraged to use that site that day to give money to various MN charities and non-profits. So that day always reminds me to come on here and gently encourage people to go make donations to The Rex Foundation and Archive.org, two non-profits near and dear to Deadheads' hearts. Thanks for considering it!

First.. USam, I'm sorry to hear this news.. the silver lining is they seem to have been discharge from the hospital.. Let's hope for as full, complete and speedy recovery as possible and sending positive vibes your way. I get what you're saying though.. these issues affect us all, no one is immune and hospitalization often leaves us at the bottom of a valley with a huge financial hill to climb. My dad spent a couple months in the Neuro ICU a few years ago, the final bill was more than $1M. He's ok now though thanks to a very skilled neurosurgeon in Richmond (and the resulting proud owner of my Fillmore West 69 the complete recordings box set, we called it even St. Stephen [kidding of course]).

KF.. sorry to disappoint, but I as an avid Rush fan myself, I am ok with the twist on words.

Enjoying the positive vibes here lately too, and some I think very honest and on point reviews of recent releases. Nice deep dive on '73. I see the points made on the good and not so glowing comments too.. there is some unevenness to '73, especially in the first sets. Sometimes they seemed to somehow fit ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag (or more accurately 4 1/2 hours of music on a three disc release). 1973 always has that work in progress feel to it, but it also opens the door to some of the more creative, free flowing jammy GD that grew that year and seemed to peek (at least to me) in 74, losing some of it's luster during hiatus. 73 contains it's own bag of tricks..

Finally.. just delving into the song list on the January 73 Jerry release announced this week. I'm salivating.. there's some takes on songs I have never heard them play here.. and it's a Rex/Betty multi-track? Say what! These had to have been returned as part of the lost stash. Aren't we a lucky bunch?

Wishing all a very good weekend and sending positive thoughts to the family members suffering and recovering out there.

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I wake up each morning, eagerly hoping to learn of a release from 1968, so imagine my disheartenment(?) when I saw that the Origins graphic novel special edition would have unreleased music from 1968 ONLY IN LP FORMAT! I hope that the powers-that-be see fit to make a CD version of the Origins set, or release the music on a disc. Please!

The artwork on the singles collection is so beautiful and original. I have purchased them all, even though I don't have any means to play them! Perhaps one of those artists could be hired for the Dave's Picks series, or the mandate (if it exists--I doubt it) that the DaP art must be skeleton-themed could be relaxed? Or maybe there could be beards on the covers, but no skeletons? :) First-world problems, to be sure . . .

Thanks VGuy.. my first taste into Garcia Live Vol. 12.

Holy crap is the sound good on this one. Very sweet indeed, thanks for the uplift in my spirits. This will carry me into the weekend.

..and how about Sarah Fulcher's backup vocals? Wow.. super excited for this one.

Edit: I plan on randomly adding Rush themes to the subject of my posts. Nothing wrong with having a little fun with KF2112, right? It's hemispheres weekend after all..

Keep smiling folks..

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Early bird has 1-1/2 days left.

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Mine still shows processing. I’ve had a subscription forever and never had one take so long. Anyone else or is this just me for some reason? Thanks.

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Perfectly delivered by DHL under a furios storm! Oddly it has no number, there's a blank space beside the limited edition tag. What a funny thing I have an unlimited edition!

Have a grateful day dead freaks

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LOL Jimbo you got me again with The Trees. You'd think I'm an idiot, but it's really just the weed :D

Unkle Sam sorry for your troubles man!! The cost of basic shit DOES seem a bit high. I realize people need to make a prophet - we all gotta eat - but even with health insurance, the costs are going up and the coverage is going down. Well, I could go on, but this ain't place.

Had a good time with DP 23 today, and finally listened to that 40 minute Other One. Twice. Good stuff. I say screw all this waiting around and just start producing and pressing CDs. Start with the Dark Star shows. Then the Bird Song shows. Then the rest of 68 - 74..........Well, I could go on, but this ain't gonna happen.

Sounds like another instance of having to make more copies to replace the ones that disappeared at the warehouse.
Maybe other people who are still waiting will start getting theirs.

Well, When in Rome, yours in Italy arrived the same day as mine, stateside. Also with no number! Hmm, what’s that all about, y’all? Scott-O, this is the longest it’s ever taken me to receive a subscription copy.

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I've been on a little prog-rock kick lately, Yes and Rush have had a bit of play, good stuff. Sometimes that sound hits the spot for me.

I've picked up a few new cds recently and was thinking that I would need to have some time to give everything a few listens before getting anything else, and then I see the references here to Garcia Live 12 and that idea comes to an end. That looks smoking.

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After finishing listening to Disc 3 of Dave's whatever from 11/17/72 Wichita, that has 5 songs from the show before, 11/15/72 Oklahoma City, I realized that i had 11/18/72 Hofheinz Pavilion on CD (I think a record store release). It's not the full show and only one disc..... Could we see a 11/19/72 Hofheinz Pavilion release which is an amazing show, for Dave's 34 with the bonus disc being from 11/18/72 or 11/15/72 of songs that haven't been released yet?? Over served in Rhode Island... bob t

....flies under my radar as well Bob. Not because of the contents, but because of the thin-ness. I recall it having a strong He's Gone. Time to revisit this skinny release. The cover art is strong with this one. (By artist Gary Houston. Coincidences be damned!!).
Anybody seen The Mandalorian yet? Nerd if you did. Nothing wrong with that.

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There are no tapes in the vault, and will never be, from what I know. Everything that was released from the prior night is everything we will ever see from those two shows. Sad but true.

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Everytime I see that bear with that mug of suds it makes me thirsty.

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What about in the returned reels?......(fingers crossed)

Lot of good anniversary listens available this weekend.

Started 11-15-72% on the drive home from work yesterday, but got home while in the middle of Playing. Will finish that show today while running errands.
Last night in the living room did 11-14-71% and 11-15-71. I can see why Doc likes ‘71.

On deck
11-17-71
11-17-72
11-18-72%
11-14-73
11-17-73
11-21-73 later in the week.

This is awesome! We have so many official shows available now to listen to and more on the way.
It used to be that there were a few good releases, which I burned into my synapses by listening to so many times, to supplement my hissy tape collection.
I now have 4-5 TB’s of SBD’s from the torrents, but hardly ever listen to them because I have so many (but still not enough) official releases. There are so many (but still not enough) official releases that I don’t have enough time to burn each one into my synapses (but I’m definitely trying).

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But as far as I know, there won't be any late-1972 tapes returned. That era's tapes never disappeared; the Dead either had them on hand, or they did not exist.

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Somewhere in the past i recall dave saying

Not in vault..not in vault..not in vault..

Aha! DAVE'S the robot they keep looking for!

THE ROBOT IS CALLING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE, MARYE!

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The one that got away

I will hold on to my unofficial version

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Please dave
PLEASE

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Greek box

Not one Greek show has been released.

A (Greek) tragedy, if there ever was one.

Back to reality, my fellow Deadheads.

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....the series every Star Wars fan needs, but doesn't deserve. Liking Disney+ so far. Oooooh. They have Swiss Family Robinson?! One of the first movies I remember growing up. Excellent.

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sorry... I almost didn't. Especially how i completely chocked on my prediction of Dave's 34 with 11/19/72 Hofheinz prediction, thought it was in Vault especially with the Soundboard that has been out there forever!!! I will wear ribbons of shame!!!!

Listening to motorhead the other day on phone youtube

New album comes on
Motorhead covering other bands

The trooper by iron maiden

That tune has taken residence in my head

Earworm

Thats a great band name
Earworm

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....my mom visited Amish country with my late dad. Said her eyes were opened.
Edit. Saw Bob T's post. My mom loves Neil Diamond. Took her to see him three years ago during his last tour. Presently, he was correct. No Diamond tours currently. (It was a really good show btw).

In the late 90’s someone (not a Deadhead, but a young person that listened to rock n roll) told me that Neil Diamond put on an excellent show.

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Unnumbered Dave's are promo copies typically for employees and should not be sent out to people who subscribe or purchased a la cart. But given the way things are going around here, I guess you take what you can get.

By the way, where is Bolo, did he get lost in the Warehouse?

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.....blessed with a great voice and awesome stage presence. His band was always top notch. How could you refuse to back him? You couldn't.
Grateful to see him live for sure ❤️
Thanks Mom.

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Remember in Trading Places when Dan Aykroyd goes to the door where he lives, "Coleman, there is no Coleman here you made a mistake"

There's a big Amish/Mennonite presence where I live, mostly farmers and craftsman. For the most part, they still use horse drawn buggies (black with orange reflective triangles on the rear). You see them from time to time driving their buggies on the roads to town or to church on Sundays.. pretty cool flashback, you have to slow down to like 8 miles an hour until there is safe passage. On a related note, one of my friends from college decided not to join the rat race after school and started an organic farm that still uses horse drawn plows, etc. Not much difference except he uses electricity, listens to a lot of Reggae and GD and as dreads instead of short hair and Amish beards.

Sort of cool, I doubt if many Amish are Deadheads though.. except maybe that one in the movie Kingpin (Randy Quaid).

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Did you happen to walk up to one of the tougher young men in the buggy and smoosh his ice cream cone on his nose and forehead? I once saw a documentary on the Amish in Pennsylvania where that happened. By Amish law they are not permitted to respond with violence, however if one does, it is perceived as a mating call. An Amishman who brakes this law can expect at least one pretty young Amish woman to expose her breasts while washing in an open outdoor bathing area.

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