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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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  • Anonymous (not verified)
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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
  • johnman
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
  • buddy plant
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
  • marye
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    OK !
    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
  • mona
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
  • marye
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
  • marye
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Thank You Marye! Excting to know. The icons r fun and the prankster censor. Cant wait to see the next level :)
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Hows the new chatroom treating evrbdy?Is it as good as the old one?I havent had the internet time to commit to it.......
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its been really nice. good ppl no drama :) just some tech issues.
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at least the drama has taken its business elsewhere...
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the new chatroom has been very kind and amiable, and DRAMA FREE!!!!!!!! :) YIPEEEEEEEEEEEe********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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some folks have been reporting trouble getting into the chat room, as in, their logins and passwords don't work, or things hang up in various weird ways. Strangely, this happened to me in the recent past, and it went away today. What changed is that I upgraded to the most recent version of Firefox. Therefore I'd suggest you might try updating your browser if you're having this problem, and trying again. Ya never know. But I have also reported this issue to our technical wizards.
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stupid keyboard..
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at least they're not posting spam in Japanese in the chat room. Yet, anyway...
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whats up with the chat? For 2 days u get "page not found". Have PPL asking about it it is missed. Hoping it is under construction and is a good thing :) PLZ let us know.
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that this is related to some site maintenance that happened on Friday. I've reported it to the intrepid techs, and am hopeful they will be able to deal with it when they return tomorrow.
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the chat room is working fine now. If this is not the case, please advise.
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bein' Jerry's Bday, and all.....I just missed GC, I mean by mere seconds, and waited around...but no-body else came in, so, I went to facebook, but I don't dig the chat there AT ALL. I'll try again periodically. Maybe folks will be there on the 9th, cryin' on each other's shoulders, missin' you know who.....
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No post, no forums, no chat and a CAPCHA. Whats up??
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I'm not seeing what mona's seeing...
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Just to let all my CR buddies know that I am not avoiding you. I have been unable to get into the CR for several months now, for technical reasons I do not understand. It is not a problem at my end, I have tried with different computers, settings, changing names, changing passwords etc. Apparently the tech people know about it, but they have a lot of other more important glitches to clear up so I have to wait. Maybe I did something bad in the CR?? Hope not. Please know that I miss you, especially on these long cold lonely evenings and when I am on the road. I hope to be back some time. Happy Midwinter Festival of your choice Badger
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you are missed in the chat, and looking foreward to you making it back in there!
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you are missed in the chat, and looking foreward to you making it back in there!
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Might as well use this space for something useful. Let's see, Tiger Woods won his first championship in over 2 years. Goooooo Tiger! I hope he comes back for the last of his prime of his career. Age 49 is the last year a golfer qualifies for the pro tour. Thereafter they are relegated to the still very lucrative Champions (Seniors) tour. If Tiger (now 35) can win 10 more majors and 25 more championships he will set the high water mark for golfers for probably the next century, if not forever (100+ wins in the regular season). Moral turpitude is reprehensible and not to be condoned, but in this most difficult of games, a true great like Woods can make it a small asterisk in a rather large biography of one of those they call "The Greatest".
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But yeah, I don't see what his personal life has to do with his sporting skill.
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Tiger, as well as a select handful of others can play in any PGA Tour sponsored or co-sponsored event they want for the rest of their lives. Tour grants lifetime exemption for anyone with 30 or more career wins. Golfers do not become eligible for the Champions Tour until they are 50, but they are not precluded from regular Tour events just because they are 50 or older. And yes, I'd like to see Tiger fulfil his potential as well, and I think he will. Only Nicklaus and Snead have more career Tour wins, and only Nicklaus has more professional Majors. Tiger should be able to eclipse both of those marks. As for his off-course behavior, it is unfortunate but let's face it, he's no Michael Vick, and thank goodness for that!
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You can tell I'm a duffer, though I like to watch
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What's up with it this week?
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I have filed an inquiry. A lot of things seem to be behaving oddly.
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So is that chat room finsihed for ever? Does dead net want to get rid of it? I spent months shut out of it and despite messages via MaryeE nobody fixed it. Now the whole thing seems to have vanished. If it is closed for good then please let us know. thanks
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Marye thanx for all you do. We know its beyond your control. What makes it sad is each time it goes down the less come back and then new ppl come on and goes down again and then we lose them. Almost makes it not worth it because the ones there do try to work hard to build it back up again. So i agree with badger. Just let us know if the chat is dead.If so rhino has lost a special part of Dead.net
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I agree with both of them. Just tell us please.
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our intrepid tech team has a chat room set up and ready for testing. Send me a PM if you'd like the link.
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I would not go so far as to say that everything is just exactly perfect, but the current version of chat appears to be at least somewhat functional, so please go check it out and report issues you may encounter. Thanks so much! Link is http://www.dead.net/chat. Onward, furthur, etc...
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Is it true that an old extension cord last used in the Wall of Sound is responsible for the periodic crashes of the chat room?
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They sell every other style! What about a 50th Anniversary Special Edition duct Tape?
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Is an awesome idea....sell them on Shakedown Street!
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my lawyer assures me this social anxiety experiment of perma chat crash is both cruel and unusual and you can expect a letter from him much sooner then the denied "pink slip" letter your chat karma will get you from gdtstoo! -throws a fit-smashes computer monitor-cuts himself repeatably on the testicles-screams-cries-begs-pisses himself -calms down ok, ok, im ok, just alittle anxiety, loss of control from chat crashing, im fine now, its back up, im sorry, im sure itll stay up this time, im sure, oh no...no NO NO NO....AgggagaggrrrrrrggrgrgrrrrrrraaagaaghahHHHHHH! Where is my story geooooOOOOOOOOOOOO I hope you have enjoyed this comedy skit brought to you by super bowl 49!
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Simmer down, Sir Ant, or we'll turn this bus around. Stop me if you've heard this one...except you Marye. you get to listen, or feed the puppies or whatever.
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okay, where were we...oh yes, in the foothills of the Sierra Mountains, in the County of Calaveras, a quaint small town called Angels Camp, population around 5000 or so, at at the Frogtown Fairground that Mark Twain wrote about in his book, The Jumping Frog of Calaveras County" By the way, the Hells Angels, long before Altamont, way back in 1957, roared in to that small town and took it over, and scared the bejeebus out of everyone, and effectively shut down the downtown for around 20 years every year,the weekend the Frog Jump took place...but I digress, because this story is not about Frogs, or Hells Angels, it's about the Grateful Dead and a small but pretty cool chapter in their touring lives...one which I was so very fortunate to be a part of...
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So Bill Graham booked the fairgrounds to have a massive Grateful Dead concert, right in my backyard...as I lived in Columbia, which was right across the Stansilaus River (which is now a reservoir-waahhh), a stones throw from Angels Camp. We all used to raft that river back in the day, and it was majestic. Friends of the River was founded to save that river, btw, which ultimately failed, not for lack of trying tho. FOTR did end up saving the Tuolumne River and making it wild and scenic, and that's a good thing. The GD may have thrown some money at FOTR through their Rex Foundation...but this story is not about the river, or our environmental fight in the 70's to save it... So roll back the clock to 1987, summer, August, about a hundred degrees in the shade, with 25,000 hippies rolling in to this paranoid town (Angels Camp) to celebrate the last blast of partying before school started, etc...August 22, 23, the end of the west coast summer tour, but the start of our journey... Deadant, you still with us?
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*pets his three-legged frog* more story more story waaaaa