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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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    Finally getting around to GarciaLive 12....

    .....😍😍😍

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    9/15/72 Boston Music Hall, MA
    9/26/72 Stanley Theater, NJ
    9/28/72 Stanley Theater, NJ
    10/2/72 Springfield MA
    12/12/ 72 Winterland. CA

    These sound great and fill that 1972 urge.

    Jimbo, I believe you're spot-on about the coolness we would have had with a Winterland '74 box set from that Feb '74 run. I always picture it packaged like the 73 and 77 sets, except in red. And Berkeley - what a set that would have been: couple of Dark Stars, Other Ones, Playing in the Bands, China Riders, Bird songs, Truckins' < etc.

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    No.. this is not normal, you should have your Dave's Picks by now..

    Send a message to MaryE, she seems best at helping with issues like this. If you have never sent her a PM, it is difficult to contact her as new PM's are not working at the moment.

    https://www.dead.net/forum/temporary-fix-pm-problem

    The above link shows the best way to reach her until PMs are working again.

    Speaking of PMs, there are a couple people I was trying to contact regarding March 77 Winterland (Nitecat and another).. but I couldn't send them a PM. When PMs are working I will circle back on this and reach out to you.

    Weird little annoying bug.. I wish they would fix it.

    Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays all..

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    This is the conclusion I draw every time I read your posts. Maybe it's the fact we're both Daves. :)

    Faulkner's original idea was to publish Sound and the Fury with those different colors. Apparently it would have been prohibitively expensive in 1929, and when they published the one you got your hands on, it was a highly limited edition, something us Deadheads know a thing or two about. I would love to read it anew with those colors, to see if that helps or allows me to get some things I had previously missed.

    I've heard of Opium Eater, but never read it. I'll put it at the top of my list. And maybe fire up some Hawkwind when I read it. Anybody else like to have music on as they read? That's another way jambands and jazz accentuate the experience of reading to me. Unless I start getting too into the music and have to reread a passage or page, but that can be helpful.

    Rock on, fellow Dave!

    ETA: I was provoked into searching for that Folio Society Limited Edition, and that thing goes for more than 30 Trips, Europe '72, or Fillmore West. Saw one for sale for $1600!

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    I didn't know that Little Walter had ever played with Quicksilver. It would be fascinating to hear how it went.
    I didn't see Muddy Waters, live, unfortunately. My first blues concert, as opposed to blues rock concert, was B.B.King around 1980. I couldn't believe how much more powerful B.B was live, compared to the fairly easy going albums he released in the 1970s. He was dynamite live, and I saw him many times after that.

    But I don't think Muddy Waters came to Britain in the 1980s. I do have some great dvds of his concerts. The best features 3 shows from 3 different eras, and the best, by far, is from Newport 1960. During the closing "I Got My Mojo Working", Muddy starts dancing round the stage. Its the most unusual dance I have ever seen in my life! He also plays great guitar on it, and the band is fantastic.

    And Little Walter..where to start. On those 1950s recordings with Muddy, he swoops and glides round the beat like a bird of prey. And the sound he got from his harmonica was phenomenal. Most rock harmonica players sound a bit cheesy to me-they hit the right notes-but the sound isn't always that great. But in Little Walters hands, the harp sounded more like a tenor saxophone-deep and rich. Truly in a class of his own.

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    Alavarhanso...I fell under William Faulkner's spell too, many years ago. Sound and the Fury is one of the greatest novels I have ever read, and one that I go back to on a regular basis. A couple of years ago, I got a copy that was colour coded, so different parts in the first section are framed in different colours. This links to an enclosed card, so you can identify who is speaking, and what year they are speaking in. This is quite helpful, as the novel travels backwards and forward in time without warning-just like our thoughts-and two of the characters have the same name. There is also a 200 page reference book to go with the novel . Truly, the more you read it, the more is revealed. This is a Folio edition-its not cheap-but its well worth getting if you want to carry one exploring the novel.

    Thinking of drug books, I re-read Thomas De Quincey's "Confessions of and English Opium Eater" last month. Written at the dawn of the 19th century, you could be forgiven for thinking this has no relevance to contemporary drug culture at all. But it does. De Quincey describes taking opium and walking round London, feeling the pulse of the city. In the evening, Hawkwind not having formed yet, he has to make do with going to the opera- but his habit of getting high and then going out to hear music chimes very nicely with the model of drug taking prevalent when I was growing up.
    Incidentally, there are two editions of this book, one published in 1821 and a revised, expanded edition published in 1856. I would definitely go for the first, shorter one. In the second one, De Quincey merely expands on his early, pre opium years going to school, college, finding employment etc etc. The shorter edition includes a briefer account of these years...and then cuts to the chase.

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    Thanks for the comments; I was just wondering about it, that's all. I agree that watching Drums live was better than listening to it recorded, but Space, personally the only part I really enjoyed was anticipating what would emerge from it.

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    Sorry for the weak pun, but didn't expect to check in and see allusions to Moby Dick and Ulysses here, and Leopold Bloom (I first mistakenly named him Leo Bloom, before doing a quick search as I read it in college, and forgot Gene Wilder's character in The Producers is Leo Bloom) only registers in my memory banks as a very meek and mild Odysseus, even George Clooney's Ulysses Everett McGill in O Brother Where Art Thou is a braver Ulysses/Odysseus. I commend Joyce for having introduced stream of consciousness, but I believe William Faulkner to be the master of it. I read Moby Dick in high school and remembered enough of it to skip it when I was assigned it in college and still get an A on a paper on it. (Could not replicate that feat today, unfortunately.)

    If any have not yet dove into the wondrous riches of Faulkner's writing, I would suggest taking a stab at him. Maybe start with As I Lay Dying, which is an easier read for Faulkner, and quite often humorous in its depressing depictions; Jewel's "sleeping spells" being my personal favorite. It still does have one character/narrator who is an autistic/mentally retarded child, so there is still some puzzlement in Vardman's chapters, though it's easy by comparison to Benjy Compson's section of The Sound and the Fury. Or Quentin's section, that's pretty tough in a completely different way. I don't know what draws me to Faulkner more than other writers, but the man cast a spell on me, and though I'm a lifelong Southerner, I do not grapple with the history of the Civil War and its ramifications on the idealized Old South in the way Faulkner and his characters do. Perhaps it's simply the characters, characterizations, and his intense attention to detailing an entire country in Tolkienian fashion long before Tolkien fashioned The Hobbit, then tread upon The Lord of the Rings, and went off on the many tangents and backstories of The Silmarillion. But where Faulkner and Tolkien are both a tough, dense read (excepting The Hobbit and some of Faulkner's short stories and books he wrote for the income), Faulkner's prose shines through. Getting Cliff's Notes to help decipher Faulkner is helpful as well. The Norton Criticals are good, too, if you can find them.

    One place where his influence went where Faulkner would have least expected was with another of my favorite writers and employers of stream of consciousness: Hunter S Thompson. His stream was more of the expanded consciousness variety, but his writing is clear, lucid, and powerful. It's an irony of that era, but most political scientists of the era considered the good doctor's Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72 to be the very best document on the 1972 election. And that's in spite of the fact he accused several presidential contenders, including Nixon, of being drugged or under the influence. He still was the most perceptive and prescient of those following the election bout. He predicted the nominee, though missed the outcome a bit. Though he was probably correct in trying to get McGovern to wear a Dead tshirt during the campaign, arguing he would get a million votes from the sartorial choice. McGovern didn't and he got trounced. It took a while, but snuck in a Dead reference.

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    Is anyone else in this same boat? I am a subscriber in the US and still haven't received my copy. I have no correspondence from dead.net either.

    It just seems crazy late to still have nothing.

    thanks for any help.

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    I used to be able to fall over better when I'd had a drink.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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Just fyi friends...the "Warlocks 1989 Box" is available for only $19.99 via digital download here on site...One of my fav runs from fall 89--incredible buy....great version of "Death Don't Have No Mercy" --10/9/89

Merry Christmas!

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This book is an underrated, illuminating read. Like most of Crowley's output it can be rambling and inconsistent at times, however bookended by brilliance.

I gave it as a gift for the second time this Christmas, to another fiend - er, friend. Anyone interested check it out. Most aspects of the man's life have been stereotyped and sensationalized.

Merry Christmas everyone!

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Nice to see old Edgar Rice Burroughs pop up on here earlier in the week. Our reach is wide indeed. You often read that although Burroughs wrote all those Tarzan books set in Africa, he never actually went to Africa himself. Although he also wrote many science fiction books too, no one ever says that he never actually went to Mars. Makes you think.

Happy Christmas one and all !

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Two great Christmas songs, Merry Christmas Baby by Charles Brown and Santa Claus by Sonny Boy Williamson. Right now listening to T Bone Walker 1940-1954 on Mosaic Records, great box set. T Bone Walker influenced B. B. King, Eric Claption, Jimi Hendrix and so many many more great guitar players. Merry Christmas folks,, have fun.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 07:50

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My wife either really loves me or she secretly loves the GOGD despite her complaints. She got me the subwoofer that I wanted, and this thing is going to make the house shake...lots of Phil Bombs in my future!!!

Merry Christmas Dead People...Have a safe and happy holiday!!!

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War is Over! if you want it
Happy Christmas from John & Yoko

Still has meaning 49 years later

“Merry merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, lets hope it’s a good one, without any fear” .
Thank you David Lemieux , Steve Vance, Ivette Ramos at Rhino. You helped me achieve one of my dreams. To the Grateful Dead, thank you for helping to create a better World.
To fellow Dead Heads. Don’t ever let anyone break your spirit. (Collective and individual) .

It snowed overnight here on the “old Pecos Trail”.

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Submitted by musicnow on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 09:08

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Have a Grateful Christmas everyone!

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 10:13

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May the new year bring peace, prosperity and happiness.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 11:07

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Going back a few threads here . Looks like the official unnofficial story on Townsend's Gretsch 6120 and its infrequent stage appearences is that it was too difficult to keep in tune:

http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/gear/guitar/gretsch.html

Which brings me to another thought that has frequently crossed my mind since I've gotten into the Grateful Dead hardcore. Why do they have so many problems keeping their instruments in tune? Is it because they never swap out instruments in the middle of a show? That would be my guess. You go to a concert nowadays and there's no time spent tuning instruments between every third song. But still there non swap instruments that much. Thinking back to Alex lifeson on the Hold Your Fire tour, and he used that white guitar with the little circular emblem on it the entire show pretty much. Or Trevor Rabin and and that funky customized strat (?) he used the majority of his days with Yes.

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Submitted by nitecat on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 11:37

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Everyone here on this site makes my day more fun, happier, and often more informed. Thanks all for great ideas and comments throughout the year. May we all have a fun, prosperous, peaceful new year.

Listening to last year's stadium box (was it last year?) Sugaree is kicking off the second set. Gonna cook a Christmas day ommlete for family and open presents. Shake it, Sugaree.

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Submitted by P Hill on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 13:40

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jerry xmas and a happy new weir to yall beautiful freaks

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 15:25

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To all you turkeys out there, happy holidays and a drunk new year's. Peace. P.S.- thanks to you know who on the Woodstock box. Right on.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 15:34

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Hope all have a fantastic holiday and New Year!

Keithfan, the instruments largely go out of tune due to conditions such as weather like heat and humidity in outdoor shows and indoor shows as well. It could also be the instruments themselves. The Gretsch in this instance has a whammy bar, and whammy bars are notorious for sending guitars out of tune with usage. Also, Townshend is not exactly a light player on his strings, and he bends them quite a bit while playing, as well as attacking them with a windmill motion. There's many jokes about bass players not tuning up for years at a time, which is hyperbole, but basses usually stay in tune longer, despite longer necks, and longer strings, as long as they are set up correctly, so you'll likely see more guitars being tuned at a show than a bass. Technology has made the guitars sturdier and more stable, but those conditions can still send the guitars out of tune. Why the Dead took so incredibly long to tune up is another question. I would bet that they tuned so often between songs due to Jerry bending strings on solos, and Phil having perfect pitch. It probably drove him nuts hearing out of tune guitars. Just a supposition there. Hope that helps!

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 12/25/2019 - 23:19

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… the new-ish pink Floyd box set - the later years. Big sticker proclaims "limited edition",,,, I can't find what the limit is?

Anyone?

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 04:31

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Hi folks...hope everyone had a swell Christmas...we had about four inches of snow fall here at the edge of the world which compared to the nearly two feet that fell for Thanksgiving was quite doable...anyway for my anniversary show today I will be listening to 12-26-70 El Monte Legion Stadium...the start of a three night run which I was lucky enough to attend...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2hmh579Cd8

a lot of changes going on as "Workingman's Dead" had been released the previous June and "American Beauty" had just been released in November...Happy New Year to all and rock on...

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 04:55

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Taking you up on your offer, however I'm opting for the Terrapin>Drums>Space>UJB segment. Thanks for the recommendation! :-)

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 10:21

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There's still a lot of tuning going on during shows, but everyone has pedals now and bypass the house while they're tuning, so you don't hear it.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 10:51

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I can't get enough of the 5 Disc release of the Grateful Dead movie soundtrack. Multi Track Wall of Sound music. Is there anything better than this. Disc four has one of my all time favorite Uncle John's Band. The energy is unreal.
Recorded by Bill Wolf. Who was he? I don't remember that name.
I know it has been talked about for years, but these five nights with video would be a box dream come true. We know the tapes are there.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 11:26

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Is a primo 1974 performance, every time I give it a listen I can’t help but smile smile smile! 🙏❤️😎🌹💀🌹💀

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Submitted by carlo13 on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 14:13

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Ditto.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 18:33

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aka Dick's Picks 5

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 12/26/2019 - 20:16

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Anybody else excited about the Cream "Farewell Tour" 4-cd set coming in February? It should come soon after Dave's 33, so 2020 is all ready to get us started early.
Music is the best!!

Yes, I'm looking forward to this one, too. There have been a few dodgy Cream releases over the last year or so ( ie Detroit 1967-great playing - average sound), but this new one looks like the real deal.

I haven't played 26/12/79 this year yet, but that's a great second set. Rocking Alabama-Promised Land to close set 1, too. It dove tails nicely into 12/28/79-a Road Trips release as well. Good synth playing from Brent in both second sets, as I recall.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 04:30

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I didn't realize they sound checked Black-Throated Wind at that show. Interesting bit of trivia...

Thanks for the link P Hill.

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Submitted by P Hill on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 04:32

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https://archive.org/details/gd1981-12-27.143630.fob.beyer.m160.streeter…

Set I
New Minglewood Blues >
Sugaree
Cassidy
Deep Elem Blues >
C.C. Rider
Friend Of The Devil
Passenger
Althea >
Looks Like Rain >
Deal
Set II
Samson & Delilah
To Lay Me Down >
Playing In The Band >
Drums >
Space >
The Wheel >
Playing In The Band Reprise >
Wharf Rat >
Sugar Magnolia

Encore:
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 07:46

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Thanks for the thoughtful guitar tuning reply. You know what else just came to mind - I've read some stuff about how difficult it used to be to keep Keith's piano in tune (even the elecric stuff he was using by the late '70s; the Egypt run was notorious for it). Maybe he was the troublemaker.

I can imagine them carting around the grand piano by the time they hit the road for the wall of Sound tour, but I wonder if he was stuck playing some house piano at other places in '72 (in '71 he used a stand up, which you can prominently on a lot of those October recordings, like DaP 3).

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Submitted by P Hill on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 12:01

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74 bermuda triangle
81 salt lake city
72 kansas city
69 electric factory

maybe gainsville

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 17:23

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Good call on the China Rider from the DaP 14 Bonus Disc. You made it a while ago but I'm listening to it now. It's actually a great self-contained one disc chunk of Dead. AOM March '72 for anyone with a head full of bong weed.

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Submitted by P Hill on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 18:12

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thats right folks it is time for another game of guess that dead show

funiculi funicula
you can call me ray or you can call me jay or you can call me r j j or you can call me johnny or you can call me jaimey or you can juney but you doesnt have to call me johnson
when they come to take you down etc

first prize will be a funky winterbean golf ball and a handful of flinstones vitamins
two dinosaur and 3 bam bams

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 18:22

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Love that band.

But it looks to me like you are essentially getting four identical concerts. Mehhh.

At least throw in a Tales of Brave Ulysses or Badge in one of the shows.

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Submitted by P Hill on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 18:57

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gimme blind faith or harmony row any day at that

ive worn out a few copies of ginger bakers stratovarious yet in my younger daze

gem of an album

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Submitted by P Hill on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 19:25

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word on the street is the aniversary album will come with a bonus disc

that one is a good listen always has been always willbee

although i still wish they had stuck with calling it go to hell with the black suits and flames and what have you

dog gone arista

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Submitted by LedDed on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 19:48

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You can't get four identical concerts with improvisational live bands. Even if the setlists are very similar. I was also disappointed to see the Cream set lists, but there must be something there worth releasing. I would hate to think that Clapton is allowing this to be put out just to help the Baker and Bruce families. He could do that himself, he's worth $300 million.

A case in point (beyond the obvious - GD) is that last Hendrix box. Many songs played multiple times, but each take quite different from the others, which allows each show to feel like a fresh listen even with songs being repeated.

Where I really learned to appreciate Cream was their initial box, Those Were The Days. Go buy it now and be blown away. The radio never plays anything beyond White Room and Sunshine, and there was so, so much more.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Fri, 12/27/2019 - 19:58

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I have to agree with ledded. Cream is similar to the dead and Hendrix when it comes to live shows. They may have the same songs but each is very different in a great way. Just dont listen to them in row. Give each live concert venue a day apart.

Even the four FW69 shows had more variety in the setlists. All I am saying.

It still remains one of their top two releases.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 12/28/2019 - 03:56

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Another point of view is that the more limited the set lists, the more expansive the playing. A bit of a generalisation,but sometimes, certainly with The Dead from 1968 to mid 1969, dedication to a relatively short amount of songs meant that they stretched and recreated those songs in ways they might not have done had they been played more sparingly. Sometimes, maybe the more extensive and varied the set lists are, the more trivial the playing of those songs becomes.
I don't agree with this all the time...its just another way of looking at things.

Having said that, those Cream set lists do look very samey ! The 4 cd Humble Pie Live at the Fillmore East 1971 features essentially the same set 4 times over...and although its a blinding set, and sounds fantastic ( much better than the single disc edition) I would be lying through my teeth if I told you I could tell the difference between one set and another. So fingers crossed with Cream - it has to be bought, no question.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 12/28/2019 - 11:16

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6/9/1977, what a show! Is there a better Franklin's Tower? I don't know. The whole box is just so damn good. So, we have DeKalb in about a month or so and the Dave's 34 announcement should be coming soon. Looking forward to more releases and another box set in 9 months.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 12/28/2019 - 14:09

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Is there a better Help-Slipknot-Franklins? If there is, I haven't heard it.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 12/28/2019 - 15:33

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Music - is it an addiction? Is addiction bad? Does addiction mean loss of control and will, or just total surrender to that which inspires one's muse? Can one be addicted to something good? Or must the line be drawn at being an "aficionado, enthusiast, or fan?"

It would indeed be good to have a Brave Ulysses or Badge on those Cream sets... but, alas, there isn't. Folks might be surprised to know that Clapton has dug deep into the bag over the years and pulled out stellar live renditions on the Crossroads I and II sets, as well as his Crossroads Guitar Festival lp's and assorted other live releases, paying homage to Cream.

God bless Eric Clapton. There have been uninspired releases over the years to be sure, but there's plenty of that from any artist of that era. McCartney, The Who and the Stones have put out their fair share of crap.

I got guitar playing buddies who are "bored" by Clapton. My theory is it's because he wrote the goddamn book on blues-rock soloing and the licks everyone has stolen came off of that tree.

Anyway, to each his own, but I love Eric Clapton. Going back and watching that Cream reunion from a few years ago it's striking that he is all that remains, but he is still strong and I hope he will remain on limited display for a while longer.

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