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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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  • Tramjams
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    A while back you all were discussing the tuning between songs. I bought myself the yellow 71 box for Christmas. I highly recommend it. Especially for those like me who still haven't received Dave's 32 yet. The 7-2 show is worth the price of the box! Anyway, it is funny to me that during the first sets of these shows they spend 1 to 3 minutes tuning between every song but very rarely tune at all in the second set. Did the instruments cosmically stay in tune for the second set?

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    So, for some reason, it seemed a good idea to check out 1968 from 30TATS today. Short show (or set), but 65% Pigpen on vocals. Short and sweet, just like "they" say. C'mon Dave's 33!!

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    Hungry?

    Here's a tasty little Dancin'>Wharf Rat> Dancin' sandwich:

    https://archive.org/details/gd1976-10-14.143276.set2.sbd.goodbear.shnf

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    Rush's Time Machine tour....

    ....thats the one I went to!
    Getting back in some Dead after a self imposed sabbatical apparently. Been binging on South Park big time so forgive me.
    Postcards Of The Hanging got my attention, so I answered. The only Dylan that is better than Dylan is the GOGD doing Dylan.
    And if case some didn't get my dad joke the other day....Thermos Tat. As in thermostat! Don't touch the thermostat! I'm guilty of saying that quite often, but I'm a dad.
    And yes. Neil Peart was Rush's primary lyricist. A lot of people don't realize that.

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    The drummer wrote the lyrics!!!!!!

    Still doing Rush observances,
    Just finished watching the Time Machine BluRay.

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    It’s Hopslam season.
    Watch for it in a store near you within the next few weeks (hopefully it makes it to your area).

    https://www.bellsbeer.com/beer/specialty/hopslam-ale

    Still drinking Two Hearted?
    Two Hearted River:
    https://youtu.be/wO08WJMp1FQ

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    Acoustic sounds

    Back in the day they only had mics, pickups were not usually used on acoustic instruments. In 1980 they were and more importantly the technology had improved greatly. Even better is the use of both mics and the direct line pickups. That’s what they utilized in 1980. Also, the mics they used back then probably weren’t as high quality like they used later on....
    The signal path back then was probably a passive splitter with one leg to the main mix/PA board and another to the tape system, or possibly only 1 feed to the main board with some kind of Aux mix out to tape. This is hard to do because your trying to mix 2 completely different things with just one board so the EQ is usually not good on at least one of the mixes...unless your aux is before the EQ stage. But I’m not sure they had that kind of functionality back then?
    In 1980, it overall would have been the same, but most likely using an active splitter and much more processing etc.
    The old stuff sounds so bad mostly because they were trying to get acoustic instruments as loud as drums and electric stuff I.e., the bass, and there is no good way to accomplish this, especially with the tech back then. Thus the mixer would often roll off certain frequencies to try and get more gain without feedback, but that’s why they often sound bad; sacrifice tone for hall volume etc..Today there are feedback suppression devices which help too.

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    That's what I thought. I have to admit.. I like the clarity of the 1980 acoustic sets but I often wonder how the older stuff might have sounded if it were better recorded.

    ..but that's just me. Still glad they did it. 15 years before MTV Unplugged you have the Grateful Dead.

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    The Dead just played to the mics in 1970 and in 1980 they were plugged in. I read an interview with Garcia and Weir saying how they got sounds that were not really musical while playing to the mics, maybe they were referring to feedback. I personally liked the 1970 sounding acoustic guitars more than 1980.

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    Too bad they didn't record all of it.

    I have been pondering something for years.. and think I might have figured it out. To my ears, the acoustic stuff on 5/15/70 sounds better, by far, than any of the other 1970 acoustic stuff with the exception of Bears Choice. So my question or hypothesis is.. did they plug in the acoustic guitars or were they playing to the mics and the mics were wired to the reel to reel mix?

    For Warfield/Radio City they must have had pickups on the acoustic guitars, they sound so clean and were recorded on multi-tracks. ..but most of the 1970 acoustic sets sound muddy to me.

    Does anyone know the answer to this? My hypothesis is they were playing to the mics in 1970 but it's not a well informed hypothesis. For a point of reference, on the 1987 Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band run at Lute Fontaine, David Nelson's guitar was picked up by the mics, it was not wired directly to the tape mixing board.

    1970 is Magical (at least the good shows :D )

    ..as for 80's Matrix releases, I agree Dave's Picks 8 Matrix (11/30/80 Fox Theatre) sound great and is an improvement from both the soundboard and the audience (at least to my ears). It's a win/win. I can imagine redo's of this are more problematic than one might guess. First, we need absolutely killer audience tapes (Thanks Dr. Bob.. that Wagner source is sublime) and second, there must be a willingness from all parties to do this, likely meaning the audience masters need to be donated for the cause. Then there is the remastering process. I bet it's tricky.
    Fingers crossed though, #8 is great!

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Todd Gak?

Set II from the Cow Palace is on deck.
Jim, remastered?

Happy New Year to all!

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Its Winterland 12/31/72 for me. My copy is the FM UK released box that also includes the support slots of one cd and two cds from the Sons of Champlin and the New Riders respectively. Neither of which I have played yet.

But the Dead's set is stellar. It starts off a bit slowly, and only catches fire on set 1s penultimate song, "Playin", which is 18 minutes of uncategorizable magic. The second set is rock steady until the "Truckin-Other One" which is out of this world.

I haven't got the Band of Gypsies box yet, but I played the first set from 12/31/69 that came out a few years ago. Seriously funky.

My only memories of Holland are of Amsterdam - a wonderful place to get lost in when I was last there-1990.

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43 years ago tonight I was up at Winterland, fun show. A flyer went around at the show that said New Years starts at 1230 tonight. Bill Graham was over at the Cow Palace with Santana at 1200, he came back at 1230 to fly down from the balcony on a motorcycle. 50 years ago tonight I watched the Dead on tv bring in the New Years. Jimi M.D. I was at that show with Etta James on 12/31/82, it was fun. Happy New Years everyone, have fun.

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Boston Tea Party... had the tapes...back in the 80's.. i have to say haven't listened to this one in over 25 years.... Big fan of Cow Palace show, and the 12/31/82 show...

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While yall are gding

I am stuck in a room playing pop hits

Its for a great cause
But i detest pop

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....theres pop, then there's pop. MJ and N'Sync. That's all I've got.
Stoltzfus is in the punch line. Happy 2020 everyone. Scored two tabs of acid recently. The first in a long, long time. Thinking about it....(maybe a half?)
A half it is. Don't tell mom.

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Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme one more for the road

What do you want? What do you want?
I want rock'n'roll, You betcha
Long live rock'n'roll

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Happy New Year to all the GRATE heads that have hooked me up with music this past year! Looking forward to another year of GRATE releases!

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Also a big fan of Cow Palace '76 Jimbo. The multi-track really helps the engineering team punctuate Garcia's guitar; I beleive it's the only multi-track of the Travis Bean that's been released. I'm not much of a "best ever" guy, but They Love Each Other is something else. Highlights are too numerous - it's the whole show pretty much. Samson & Delilah is also particularly exceptional (coolest one-time only intro ever, right?); then again so are Eyes of the World, Playing in the Band and Morning Dew. And Scarlet Begonias. And UJB. Wharf Rat. Ridiculously good.

I would be in a tough jam choosing between Cow Palace and The Closing of Winterland. If we're talking strictly 70s, I don't think there's a better Stagger Lee or Miracle. From the Heart of Me is a nice interlude sort of tune. In my mind the Scarlet / Fire is possibly the most overlooked fantastic versions out there. The Dark Star is in my top ten desert island Dark Stars, I think probably because it just hangs on the main theme for the better part of 13 minutes and has a really intense 5 minutes of The Other One sandwiched in. Great version of Good Lovin', which I'm not particularly into without Pigpen, but every once in a while a special one comes along (this has a great sustained "got to have love" chorus toward the end). And then there's my boy Keith - the guy took a lot of bad press for (allegedly) losing his chops in 1978. I never heard it. All I heard was a shrinking canvas for him to play on. This show features some great playing from Keith that stands out on Big River, It's All Over Now, Playing in the Band, and Johnny B. Goode. Strong stuff.

Carlo - love the Def Leppard call-out.

Daverock - there was once an old regular here named wjonjd who was famously knowledgeable about most things Dead. He regarded 12/31/72 very highly, once saying, "the Truckin'-Other One-Morning Dew sequence has to be one of the greatest jams of absolute all time. Simply mind blowing."

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Keith...nice to read that someone else has spoken up for this Truckin-Other One-Dew jam. A lot of the great jams are well recognised as such - but this one seems to have slipped through the net a bit. Maybe because New Years shows only tend to get played on the evening in question, and there is strong competition from the other years mentioned on here. But I would highly recommend both this jam and the first set Playin' .

I'd better get on with 12/31/76 now, before the glamour of the moment fades completely.

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....after Cow Palace, I wasn't done listening to the boyz, so I randomly picked Dave's 13 2.24.74. And, wouldn't you know it, that the ending crescendo of Morning Dew occurred exactly at the stroke of midnight. Mind blown.
Then I watched Phish's new years gag at MSG. Phuking Nuts. Happy New Decade!!!
https://youtu.be/vV0BSum25XQ
.....love em or not, they do put on quite a spectacle.
Edit. Trey gets stuck but improvised like a champ.

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This Cow Palace 76 NYE is just outta sight!

Anyone need it? I'll send you a copy (do PMs work?)

Peace, and Happy New Year, DeadLand!

I was there for 28 and 29... tix for the 30 and 31 were crazy! The 29th was incredible though...

Send in the Clones.

Peace

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Like it more and more I play it........ Smokestack Lightening keeps getting me!!! Next up the 28 minute other one!!! When i first got it, i just played the Bo Diddley songs..... So i missed the rest...... best part of going back for a visit.
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We went to the D&Co Chase NYE show last night. Geez that place is huge! Folks in the rafters better not have a fear of heights!

OK show with some nice highlights. H>S>F was great to open the second set, and a cool Milestones after drums. Third set after the Roaring 20's themed NYE countdown stunt including a Dead airplane and flappers was cool: SM>UJB>Scarlet Fire>Sunshine Daydream.

NYE 1971, 48 years ago, was my first Dead show, what a great annual tradition!

Happy New Year and New Decade, fun folk!

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The Tennessee Jed on the recent DaP 32 has a blockbuster solo jam climax. I've always enjoyed Jed, but lately it's hit the upper tier of songs for me on account of that instrumental jam they go off on around the 5 minute mark (especially in one drummer mode).

Vguy I had a whole paragraph of boring shit about how I just realized last week how great that DaP 13 Dark Star is, but that I need to revisit the Dew. Then as I've done dozens of times before, I nodded off with my thumb resting on the backspace key and poof - all gone. Wasn't anything that captivating.

Bobby T - ditto on DP 30. Then about a month ago I finally checked out the rest. Brokedown Palace, China Rider, and Truckin' come to mind. Since you like the Smokestack Lightning, you may really dig the one from the previous December 7 on DaP 22. Something about getting that piano in there really helps these two versions (along with Pigpen's sincerest "wasn't me" inquisitiveness regarding who exactly did bite the little sister - Awooo! Good stuff

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What a great time to give this beauty a re-listen. I really should keep it on the box for a while.
I appreciated how that since they could not give us all of 1/3, they chose to eliminate songs that were played on 1/2, so it feels a little more complete to me.
Alligator-->Feedback medley on bonus disc is indescribably delicious!!
2020-Love it already!!

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Thanks for the reminder Mr. Ones....a 50 year anniversary....Mason’s Children knocking at my door!!!

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I was (and am) very high on this release, it's good to see this get some praise.

Let's not forget, the Mason's Children from this show first appeared on Fallout From the Phil Zone, so we know Phil had a high opinion of this version of the classic rarity. ..and the show starts exactly the same way as on the Fallout cut, like Bear had the tapes loaded and read to go but barely made it to the recorder to hit play just as the second chord of the song was played.. almost perfectly right on time minus one beat.

Yes, bonus material is a real treat.. but that Dark Star suite is also true classic (as is the one from Dave's Picks 13, Winterland 74 discussed just earlier in this very thread). To think.. the night before they had Hendrix and the Band of Gypsies, then two nights of the GD. Holy Cow.. to have been a young hipster bouncing around in Greenwich Village in late 69, early 1970. Wow, that must have really been something.

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…. be on the lookout for a complete list of Jerry Garcia Shows!

I just got done, sorting, labeling and stacking every(?) show by Jerry,,,, about 800 show. Anyone have a complete list of every show, period? Then I can check what I have against what was done.

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Thanks Wave that flag! its cool that a friend made copies for you. I did check my bank statements and yes they did refund my money without letting me know. It looks like box is all sold out now. Oh well. Happy new year

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4 2 73 wowzer
10 3 76 wowzer
4 25 71 currently at CJones
a pleasant surprise in first set
4 23 77
4 22 77

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The database on jgarcia.com is the most efficient resource I've yet found. Its engine allows you to search by date range and lineup (including multiple lineups in a single query), then sort results in ascending or descending chronological order, while providing a setlist and roster of musicians. Link: https://jerrygarcia.com/shows/

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Speaking of lists of shows, etc.. I would love to get my grubby little paws of a database of all the GD shows and setlists that exist. Something like setlists.net or deadlists.com that I would put in a database of my own.

Doubt if anyone out there has one they would share.. but thought I would ask while the subject came up.. I started screen scraping one of the sites and building my own, but only made it through 1968 or so and gave up. argh..

(I know.. nothing worse than geeks with spreadsheets)...

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I have deadbase 50.. Big and purple, but unfortunately.. paper. I was hoping someone out there had all this electronically. It's the only way I stand a chance on 30 days of dead. :D

Wishful thinking...

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If I could go back to the past and attend any 5 Grateful Dead shows they would be: 2/28/69, 3/1/69, 5/2/70 and 5/15/70 early and. late shows.

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Kate C - thanks for the heads up on the deadbase book, I didn't know that info was in there. I took a look and was, like wow, there's a lot of shit here. I usually only use it to check playlist of dead shows. The jerry site has an odd list, great to find "a" show, but a full list that's useable I've yet to figure out.

thanks, as bogart says, you're a good man sister.

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H2H starts strong and keeps building and buil....

the tape cuts.

D'oh!

Another tape cut that annoys greatly is 4 7 71

a nice jam starts out and then cuts. Grr....

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Last night channel surfing brought up the Dick van dyke show

Rob and Laura are in respective twin beds watching tv

She's eating a banana
He's eating an apple

Is that significant?

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I got out of bed ,(pulled a comb across my head) , saw a bald eagle near home. Listened to some of Dave’s Picks 30.
For an old fart it was a good day.

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Has anyone spent time with the "Listen to the Music Play" digital book of setlists and other stats? Available (choose your own price) at https://www.gratefuldeadbook.com/. I have it, but haven't spent time with it, curious what other folks think.

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Worth a listen (or more)

A Relix article years ago dubbed April 71 "Acid Month" as the GD played NYC eight times

"Vann in Ahpril with the Grateful Dead sooteh"

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It doesn't appear there's an entirely dependable or convenient digital option for your needs. Setlist.fm provides an easy-to-read chronological listing for the various JG solo incarnations by independent search (i.e., JGBand (all lineups at once), L&M, Recon, JG&Wales, etc.), but - after watching a utube tutorial on how to open a book - I found Setlist wanting for completeness when compared with GarciaBase and the attendant updates printed in DeadBase 50. Good luck!

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Billy the kid...great choice of shows you would like to have attended - the first 3 you mention are 3 of my favourite shows, too. I would substitute 5/15/70, though, with the complete run, all 4 shows, that the band played in London at the Lyceum in May 1972. Just the venue, the music, the city-the whole enchilada. If I did go back, though, I would want to be the age I am now, 62, rather than the age I would have been in 1972, 15.

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Do you remember how cool it was the first time you heard the start of set II with Wavy Gravy intro with the Dead tuning up in the back ground and just going into China Cat!!!! So got me into the Dead way back in mid-80's...... Keith Fan thanks for recommendation on Smokestack Lightning... Also gave 4/12/71 Pittsburgh a listen.... What a month April 71 was, Lusk Field House, Princeton, Manhattan Center.... Boston... Fillmore East run.... bob t

ah yes, I do remember. It was one of the first if not the first '73 tape I was able to get.

My copy did not have much distortion and was a decent sounding board but it was a little slow (off pitch).. so it had this funky, loping (incorrect) rhythm to it and I loved it anyway. I don't believe I had the whole show initially, perhaps just the second set or just 90 minutes worth, I can't remember. All those new songs, perhaps the most new material ever played in a single night? I didn't hear a copy that was pitch corrected until Archive.Org got up and running years later. What a revelation that was.. like, oh.... aahhh.

As for all the recent talk of '71, the good Doctor's ears must be burning.

Kate, a ghost from the past, good to see you and Happy New Year.

Keithfan, I assume your New Years resolution is to stop posting while commuting? :D

So all is well albeit a little global calamity. Let's hope we can put that genie back in the lamp. Fingers crossed.

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Wow. Forgot about the Sugar Magnolia Jam between the Feelin' Groovy Jam and Soulful Strut Jam. Great 30 min DS, and was enjoying the St Stephen when I arrived from work. The jam was good, the return was a little shaky, but if I recall, The Eleven is pretty smoking. Think 30 has to be Pick of the year. Sucks it took so long to receive it, but it finally happened. Had a burned copy prior, and ripped it to retrack it. May listen to more of it tonight, have some photo/computer work to do, and it shall be great background music at a high volume. Have a grate weekend! Seeing Star Wars tomorrow, hoping it's better to me than the reviewers.

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Does anyone else remember a scrolling list of show dates and locations from the original DaP series announcement. 32was definitely 100% on that list. I'm wondering what else was on it and released so far. Y'all remember that, it was 8 years ago and most of us uhh probably have pretty shot memories, maybe there are screen shots somewhere?

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