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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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    The chink in the armor for DVD-M disk and other long store media would be high cost of ceramic or glass technology to be lost to another physical technology. We will always have two types of media for music/movies. One for the masses and one for the stubborn and older people not hip to the jive. Just like newspapers. I like newspaper form instead of buttons. After your done with a newspaper, you can roll it up and swat things like pests and people who ask to borrow your Dave's picks. It can also be used as a low cost telescope and giant spitwad straw. All been tried by the way.

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    Amazon sucks....

    ....unless you want something tomorrow. Then they're ok.
    I just tested a CD-R I burned fifteen years ago. It played. Then again, my media room is dark as fuck. Bonus points!!
    CD-R ethics. Hilarious. That is one of many reasons why I come here on almost a daily basis. Faceplant into Rokk.

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    Been listening to some earlier Dead lately after a little run of '73 shows. Gave DaP10 12/12/69 and DP16 11/8/69 a listen over the last couple of days and spinning DP22 2/23-24/68 now with that excellent Viola Lee Blues. Seemed like a good choice after finishing the first snow shoveling of the year on a gorgeous sunny day in the Bitterroot. Been a while since I listened to any of these and they hit the spot lately.

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    Interesting discussion of an area I am ignorant of. It makes sense, though, what has been written. I made a load CD-R copies around 10 years ago, mainly of cds I already had, but also of ones borrowed or of digital downloads.
    I used these on long car journeys, but as they have long since stopped, I have stored them all in the attic...in direct line of sunlight. And lo and behold, a good many of them no longer play.

    I didn't know you could buy CD-R editions from Amazon. This would only be attractive to me if they were of limited edition cds that are now sold out. The digital downloads don't have the sleeve notes. The one I have just looked up is the Muddy Waters double cd Hoochie Coochie Man Volume 2 Chess Masters on Hip O Select. It costs a small fortune for the regular cd, the download is cheap-but missing info-so a CD-R might be the way to go. But I couldn't see how to access such a thing, if, indeed it is available for this release.

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    I spent some time looking into the CD-R situation and it seems that the main issue is the longevity of the CD-R and the fact that the longevity is dependent on how the disc is treated and the specifics of it's production. As Icecrmcnkd noted in his nice summary, the CD-R uses a dye layer. This dye layer is apparently sensitive to light exposure, to the extent that a couple weeks of direct sunlight may kill it. The information that I found indicated that there is significant variation between the light sensitivity and longevity of different CD-R discs depending on the type of dye layer used. There are a variety of factors involved, but the upshot seemed to be that a CD-R is not actually equivalent to a regular stamped audio CD and is a lesser quality product, to at least some degree, with a greater potential for failure.

    Amazon makes clear that they are using this approach to save on warehouse costs and to make it possible to offer out of print releases in very limited quantities. That's great, seems like a good use of the technology. My problem is just with amazon selling CD-R copies of new releases that have an actual CD release available, or I as I can't help but feel, selling me a slightly inferior product when the full quality version is readily available. My apologies to any bored by my rambling OCD diversion into CD-R technology and the ethics of CD-R sales.

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    Perhaps, but as you suggested we are getting an inferior product basically at full price. If they are going to do this, spend the extra money and get a professional quality machine and do it right. We pay the same price, get an inferior product and Amazon likely makes more money per CD than they do selling a standard CD that was made using the standard, higher quality manufacturing process.

    It's a slipper slope, how long until Dave's Picks start coming to us as CDRs. I'm against it. I will pay an extra fifty cents or a dollar to have a real CD.

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    In a korma . . .

    Good one.

    That DaP 5 is probably the best. The only real challengers for me would be DaP 23 (1/22/78), 29 (2/26/77), 11 (11/17/72), 17 (7/19/74), and 25 (11/6/77). But then there's 15 (4/22/78) . . .

    I recently went looking for an old Chet Baker CD, and it's only available now as a download, or as one of those CD-Rs from Amazon. Seems legit, as it's licensed by the estate of Chet Baker. The cost of keeping a CD in print is prohibitive when the demand is low, but if one still wants a physical product with all the liner notes and cover art, then Amazon will burn you a copy for a few dollars more than the download. I think a Bob Seger CD I was looking for can be printed that way too.

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    Convenience factor

    For someone who doesn’t want to do digital downloads or doesn’t have a burner, then on-demand CD-R might be the way to go.
    Maybe some bands are going to ditch their record label’s CD factory and use digital downloads with the option of an on-demand CD-R.

    Bears.......

    beat the Lions.

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    On-demand CD-R’s

    Not really any different than selling a digital download.

    They just need to make it very clear that it is a CD-R, because CD-R’s are not the same as CD’s. Anybody who claims that they are the same is lying.

    CD-R’s store data with organic dye molecules which will slowly break down over time, but it depends on storage conditions. I have 20-year old CD-R’s that still play.

    Factory made CD’s store data on a thin film of metal. The data is pressed into the metal film with a negative, very similar to how vinyl is pressed. This allows for a rapid stamping process and mass production.
    But, as demonstrated by Rhino with every GD release, if you half-ass the process and don’t use quality control there will always be a batch of defective discs sent out to customers.

    I would not buy an on-demand CD-R, only factory pressed CD’s.
    But, if there was something that I wanted and it was only available as an on-demand CD-R or a digital download, I would do the download and burn my own CD-R.

    Also note:
    DVD+/-R uses organic dye.

    DVD M-Disc uses a ceramic and/or glass layer that is supposed to last for 1000 years when stored properly.
    United States Patent US008389095 B2
    Date of Patent: Mar. 5, 2013
    OPTICAL DATA STORAGE MEDIA CONTAINING SUBSTANTIALLY INERT LOW MELTING TEMPERATURE DATA LAYER

    BD-R HTL (high-to-low reflectivity, the burned area is darker) is also a type of ceramic and/or glass and averages the equivalent of 500 years in simulated testing.

    BD-R LTH (low-to-high, burned area is brighter) is organic dye similar to CD-R and DVD+/-R.

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    If they are licensed then it would seem the artist get some sort of cut. Perhaps it's a way for artists to get around labels and bring CDs to market at either less cost or by giving up less of a share to corporations.

    Then the issue becomes one of the quality. If this is the direction music is heading, it really makes digital more viable and the physical product that much less desirable??

    In any case, very interesting.. thanks for sharing. It gives us something to be on the lookout for.

    Edit: I finally found the 'hidden in plain sight' language on the Flaming Lips CD. I had to look several times. Sneaky. I guess it's legit. Weird though. I need to give this some thought. Do they look the same as CDs (i.e. have artwork or professional images and detail on them or are they like the ones I make.. with the title hand-written by a black or blue sharpie?

    "Note: This product is manufactured on demand when ordered from Amazon.com. [Learn more]"

    Giving this more thought.. I agree with Cone Kid's comment (above this), this is a lesser quality product and should be significantly discounted, not $12 a CD. I guess the advantage, assuming they are being honest, is they are more eco-friendly?? but are the really? I gut tells me we should demand higher quality. If they had professional equipment instead of an industrial version of my CD burner.. wouldn't that be equally eco-friendly? Methinks we are getting an inferior product and Amazon wins the consumer loses.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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Set II from the Cow Palace is on deck.
Jim, remastered?

Happy New Year to all!

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 12/31/2019 - 14:45

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Its Winterland 12/31/72 for me. My copy is the FM UK released box that also includes the support slots of one cd and two cds from the Sons of Champlin and the New Riders respectively. Neither of which I have played yet.

But the Dead's set is stellar. It starts off a bit slowly, and only catches fire on set 1s penultimate song, "Playin", which is 18 minutes of uncategorizable magic. The second set is rock steady until the "Truckin-Other One" which is out of this world.

I haven't got the Band of Gypsies box yet, but I played the first set from 12/31/69 that came out a few years ago. Seriously funky.

My only memories of Holland are of Amsterdam - a wonderful place to get lost in when I was last there-1990.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 12/31/2019 - 16:53

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43 years ago tonight I was up at Winterland, fun show. A flyer went around at the show that said New Years starts at 1230 tonight. Bill Graham was over at the Cow Palace with Santana at 1200, he came back at 1230 to fly down from the balcony on a motorcycle. 50 years ago tonight I watched the Dead on tv bring in the New Years. Jimi M.D. I was at that show with Etta James on 12/31/82, it was fun. Happy New Years everyone, have fun.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 12/31/2019 - 17:05

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Boston Tea Party... had the tapes...back in the 80's.. i have to say haven't listened to this one in over 25 years.... Big fan of Cow Palace show, and the 12/31/82 show...

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Tue, 12/31/2019 - 18:11

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While yall are gding

I am stuck in a room playing pop hits

Its for a great cause
But i detest pop

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 12/31/2019 - 19:18

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....theres pop, then there's pop. MJ and N'Sync. That's all I've got.
Stoltzfus is in the punch line. Happy 2020 everyone. Scored two tabs of acid recently. The first in a long, long time. Thinking about it....(maybe a half?)
A half it is. Don't tell mom.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 12/31/2019 - 21:49

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Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme one more for the road

What do you want? What do you want?
I want rock'n'roll, You betcha
Long live rock'n'roll

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Submitted by musicnow on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 06:32

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Happy New Year to all the GRATE heads that have hooked me up with music this past year! Looking forward to another year of GRATE releases!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 11:10

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Also a big fan of Cow Palace '76 Jimbo. The multi-track really helps the engineering team punctuate Garcia's guitar; I beleive it's the only multi-track of the Travis Bean that's been released. I'm not much of a "best ever" guy, but They Love Each Other is something else. Highlights are too numerous - it's the whole show pretty much. Samson & Delilah is also particularly exceptional (coolest one-time only intro ever, right?); then again so are Eyes of the World, Playing in the Band and Morning Dew. And Scarlet Begonias. And UJB. Wharf Rat. Ridiculously good.

I would be in a tough jam choosing between Cow Palace and The Closing of Winterland. If we're talking strictly 70s, I don't think there's a better Stagger Lee or Miracle. From the Heart of Me is a nice interlude sort of tune. In my mind the Scarlet / Fire is possibly the most overlooked fantastic versions out there. The Dark Star is in my top ten desert island Dark Stars, I think probably because it just hangs on the main theme for the better part of 13 minutes and has a really intense 5 minutes of The Other One sandwiched in. Great version of Good Lovin', which I'm not particularly into without Pigpen, but every once in a while a special one comes along (this has a great sustained "got to have love" chorus toward the end). And then there's my boy Keith - the guy took a lot of bad press for (allegedly) losing his chops in 1978. I never heard it. All I heard was a shrinking canvas for him to play on. This show features some great playing from Keith that stands out on Big River, It's All Over Now, Playing in the Band, and Johnny B. Goode. Strong stuff.

Carlo - love the Def Leppard call-out.

Daverock - there was once an old regular here named wjonjd who was famously knowledgeable about most things Dead. He regarded 12/31/72 very highly, once saying, "the Truckin'-Other One-Morning Dew sequence has to be one of the greatest jams of absolute all time. Simply mind blowing."

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 14:06

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Keith...nice to read that someone else has spoken up for this Truckin-Other One-Dew jam. A lot of the great jams are well recognised as such - but this one seems to have slipped through the net a bit. Maybe because New Years shows only tend to get played on the evening in question, and there is strong competition from the other years mentioned on here. But I would highly recommend both this jam and the first set Playin' .

I'd better get on with 12/31/76 now, before the glamour of the moment fades completely.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 14:32

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....after Cow Palace, I wasn't done listening to the boyz, so I randomly picked Dave's 13 2.24.74. And, wouldn't you know it, that the ending crescendo of Morning Dew occurred exactly at the stroke of midnight. Mind blown.
Then I watched Phish's new years gag at MSG. Phuking Nuts. Happy New Decade!!!
https://youtu.be/vV0BSum25XQ
.....love em or not, they do put on quite a spectacle.
Edit. Trey gets stuck but improvised like a champ.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 16:28

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This Cow Palace 76 NYE is just outta sight!

Anyone need it? I'll send you a copy (do PMs work?)

Peace, and Happy New Year, DeadLand!

I was there for 28 and 29... tix for the 30 and 31 were crazy! The 29th was incredible though...

Send in the Clones.

Peace

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 17:37

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Like it more and more I play it........ Smokestack Lightening keeps getting me!!! Next up the 28 minute other one!!! When i first got it, i just played the Bo Diddley songs..... So i missed the rest...... best part of going back for a visit.
bob t

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Submitted by nitecat on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 17:50

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We went to the D&Co Chase NYE show last night. Geez that place is huge! Folks in the rafters better not have a fear of heights!

OK show with some nice highlights. H>S>F was great to open the second set, and a cool Milestones after drums. Third set after the Roaring 20's themed NYE countdown stunt including a Dead airplane and flappers was cool: SM>UJB>Scarlet Fire>Sunshine Daydream.

NYE 1971, 48 years ago, was my first Dead show, what a great annual tradition!

Happy New Year and New Decade, fun folk!

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 01/01/2020 - 20:02

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The Tennessee Jed on the recent DaP 32 has a blockbuster solo jam climax. I've always enjoyed Jed, but lately it's hit the upper tier of songs for me on account of that instrumental jam they go off on around the 5 minute mark (especially in one drummer mode).

Vguy I had a whole paragraph of boring shit about how I just realized last week how great that DaP 13 Dark Star is, but that I need to revisit the Dew. Then as I've done dozens of times before, I nodded off with my thumb resting on the backspace key and poof - all gone. Wasn't anything that captivating.

Bobby T - ditto on DP 30. Then about a month ago I finally checked out the rest. Brokedown Palace, China Rider, and Truckin' come to mind. Since you like the Smokestack Lightning, you may really dig the one from the previous December 7 on DaP 22. Something about getting that piano in there really helps these two versions (along with Pigpen's sincerest "wasn't me" inquisitiveness regarding who exactly did bite the little sister - Awooo! Good stuff

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 07:20

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What a great time to give this beauty a re-listen. I really should keep it on the box for a while.
I appreciated how that since they could not give us all of 1/3, they chose to eliminate songs that were played on 1/2, so it feels a little more complete to me.
Alligator-->Feedback medley on bonus disc is indescribably delicious!!
2020-Love it already!!

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 07:31

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Thanks for the reminder Mr. Ones....a 50 year anniversary....Mason’s Children knocking at my door!!!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 09:03

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I was (and am) very high on this release, it's good to see this get some praise.

Let's not forget, the Mason's Children from this show first appeared on Fallout From the Phil Zone, so we know Phil had a high opinion of this version of the classic rarity. ..and the show starts exactly the same way as on the Fallout cut, like Bear had the tapes loaded and read to go but barely made it to the recorder to hit play just as the second chord of the song was played.. almost perfectly right on time minus one beat.

Yes, bonus material is a real treat.. but that Dark Star suite is also true classic (as is the one from Dave's Picks 13, Winterland 74 discussed just earlier in this very thread). To think.. the night before they had Hendrix and the Band of Gypsies, then two nights of the GD. Holy Cow.. to have been a young hipster bouncing around in Greenwich Village in late 69, early 1970. Wow, that must have really been something.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 12:05

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…. be on the lookout for a complete list of Jerry Garcia Shows!

I just got done, sorting, labeling and stacking every(?) show by Jerry,,,, about 800 show. Anyone have a complete list of every show, period? Then I can check what I have against what was done.

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Submitted by Dave Sweeting on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 12:15

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Thanks Wave that flag! its cool that a friend made copies for you. I did check my bank statements and yes they did refund my money without letting me know. It looks like box is all sold out now. Oh well. Happy new year

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 13:05

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4 2 73 wowzer
10 3 76 wowzer
4 25 71 currently at CJones
a pleasant surprise in first set
4 23 77
4 22 77

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Submitted by Kate_C. on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 16:53

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The database on jgarcia.com is the most efficient resource I've yet found. Its engine allows you to search by date range and lineup (including multiple lineups in a single query), then sort results in ascending or descending chronological order, while providing a setlist and roster of musicians. Link: https://jerrygarcia.com/shows/

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 18:30

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Speaking of lists of shows, etc.. I would love to get my grubby little paws of a database of all the GD shows and setlists that exist. Something like setlists.net or deadlists.com that I would put in a database of my own.

Doubt if anyone out there has one they would share.. but thought I would ask while the subject came up.. I started screen scraping one of the sites and building my own, but only made it through 1968 or so and gave up. argh..

(I know.. nothing worse than geeks with spreadsheets)...

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 05:43

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I have deadbase 50.. Big and purple, but unfortunately.. paper. I was hoping someone out there had all this electronically. It's the only way I stand a chance on 30 days of dead. :D

Wishful thinking...

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 07:45

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If I could go back to the past and attend any 5 Grateful Dead shows they would be: 2/28/69, 3/1/69, 5/2/70 and 5/15/70 early and. late shows.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 08:00

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Kate C - thanks for the heads up on the deadbase book, I didn't know that info was in there. I took a look and was, like wow, there's a lot of shit here. I usually only use it to check playlist of dead shows. The jerry site has an odd list, great to find "a" show, but a full list that's useable I've yet to figure out.

thanks, as bogart says, you're a good man sister.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 09:30

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H2H starts strong and keeps building and buil....

the tape cuts.

D'oh!

Another tape cut that annoys greatly is 4 7 71

a nice jam starts out and then cuts. Grr....

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 09:35

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Last night channel surfing brought up the Dick van dyke show

Rob and Laura are in respective twin beds watching tv

She's eating a banana
He's eating an apple

Is that significant?

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 10:24

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I got out of bed ,(pulled a comb across my head) , saw a bald eagle near home. Listened to some of Dave’s Picks 30.
For an old fart it was a good day.

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Submitted by campaignshoutin on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 10:53

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Has anyone spent time with the "Listen to the Music Play" digital book of setlists and other stats? Available (choose your own price) at https://www.gratefuldeadbook.com/. I have it, but haven't spent time with it, curious what other folks think.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 11:34

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Worth a listen (or more)

A Relix article years ago dubbed April 71 "Acid Month" as the GD played NYC eight times

"Vann in Ahpril with the Grateful Dead sooteh"

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Submitted by Kate_C. on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 13:26

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It doesn't appear there's an entirely dependable or convenient digital option for your needs. Setlist.fm provides an easy-to-read chronological listing for the various JG solo incarnations by independent search (i.e., JGBand (all lineups at once), L&M, Recon, JG&Wales, etc.), but - after watching a utube tutorial on how to open a book - I found Setlist wanting for completeness when compared with GarciaBase and the attendant updates printed in DeadBase 50. Good luck!

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 14:29

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Billy the kid...great choice of shows you would like to have attended - the first 3 you mention are 3 of my favourite shows, too. I would substitute 5/15/70, though, with the complete run, all 4 shows, that the band played in London at the Lyceum in May 1972. Just the venue, the music, the city-the whole enchilada. If I did go back, though, I would want to be the age I am now, 62, rather than the age I would have been in 1972, 15.

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 15:57

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Do you remember how cool it was the first time you heard the start of set II with Wavy Gravy intro with the Dead tuning up in the back ground and just going into China Cat!!!! So got me into the Dead way back in mid-80's...... Keith Fan thanks for recommendation on Smokestack Lightning... Also gave 4/12/71 Pittsburgh a listen.... What a month April 71 was, Lusk Field House, Princeton, Manhattan Center.... Boston... Fillmore East run.... bob t

ah yes, I do remember. It was one of the first if not the first '73 tape I was able to get.

My copy did not have much distortion and was a decent sounding board but it was a little slow (off pitch).. so it had this funky, loping (incorrect) rhythm to it and I loved it anyway. I don't believe I had the whole show initially, perhaps just the second set or just 90 minutes worth, I can't remember. All those new songs, perhaps the most new material ever played in a single night? I didn't hear a copy that was pitch corrected until Archive.Org got up and running years later. What a revelation that was.. like, oh.... aahhh.

As for all the recent talk of '71, the good Doctor's ears must be burning.

Kate, a ghost from the past, good to see you and Happy New Year.

Keithfan, I assume your New Years resolution is to stop posting while commuting? :D

So all is well albeit a little global calamity. Let's hope we can put that genie back in the lamp. Fingers crossed.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 16:26

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Wow. Forgot about the Sugar Magnolia Jam between the Feelin' Groovy Jam and Soulful Strut Jam. Great 30 min DS, and was enjoying the St Stephen when I arrived from work. The jam was good, the return was a little shaky, but if I recall, The Eleven is pretty smoking. Think 30 has to be Pick of the year. Sucks it took so long to receive it, but it finally happened. Had a burned copy prior, and ripped it to retrack it. May listen to more of it tonight, have some photo/computer work to do, and it shall be great background music at a high volume. Have a grate weekend! Seeing Star Wars tomorrow, hoping it's better to me than the reviewers.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 16:52

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Does anyone else remember a scrolling list of show dates and locations from the original DaP series announcement. 32was definitely 100% on that list. I'm wondering what else was on it and released so far. Y'all remember that, it was 8 years ago and most of us uhh probably have pretty shot memories, maybe there are screen shots somewhere?

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