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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • bob t
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    11/15/72 30 minute Playing in the Band

    So happy that at least 5 songs from that show could be added to 11/17/72 Wichita show!!! Good weekend everyone. Bob t

  • JimInMD
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    Re: How Sweet It Is / The Trees

    Thanks VGuy.. my first taste into Garcia Live Vol. 12.

    Holy crap is the sound good on this one. Very sweet indeed, thanks for the uplift in my spirits. This will carry me into the weekend.

    ..and how about Sarah Fulcher's backup vocals? Wow.. super excited for this one.

    Edit: I plan on randomly adding Rush themes to the subject of my posts. Nothing wrong with having a little fun with KF2112, right? It's hemispheres weekend after all..

    Keep smiling folks..

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    This is very sweet....

    https://youtu.be/BTnmrNvs2ZQ
    Regarding that Long Beach show from today in 1987 had a rocking second set. I was there! Third show! And that day, friends, was the day i got IT.

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Origins and artwork

    I wake up each morning, eagerly hoping to learn of a release from 1968, so imagine my disheartenment(?) when I saw that the Origins graphic novel special edition would have unreleased music from 1968 ONLY IN LP FORMAT! I hope that the powers-that-be see fit to make a CD version of the Origins set, or release the music on a disc. Please!

    The artwork on the singles collection is so beautiful and original. I have purchased them all, even though I don't have any means to play them! Perhaps one of those artists could be hired for the Dave's Picks series, or the mandate (if it exists--I doubt it) that the DaP art must be skeleton-themed could be relaxed? Or maybe there could be beards on the covers, but no skeletons? :) First-world problems, to be sure . . .

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    First.. USam, I'm sorry to hear this news.. the silver lining is they seem to have been discharge from the hospital.. Let's hope for as full, complete and speedy recovery as possible and sending positive vibes your way. I get what you're saying though.. these issues affect us all, no one is immune and hospitalization often leaves us at the bottom of a valley with a huge financial hill to climb. My dad spent a couple months in the Neuro ICU a few years ago, the final bill was more than $1M. He's ok now though thanks to a very skilled neurosurgeon in Richmond (and the resulting proud owner of my Fillmore West 69 the complete recordings box set, we called it even St. Stephen [kidding of course]).

    KF.. sorry to disappoint, but I as an avid Rush fan myself, I am ok with the twist on words.

    Enjoying the positive vibes here lately too, and some I think very honest and on point reviews of recent releases. Nice deep dive on '73. I see the points made on the good and not so glowing comments too.. there is some unevenness to '73, especially in the first sets. Sometimes they seemed to somehow fit ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag (or more accurately 4 1/2 hours of music on a three disc release). 1973 always has that work in progress feel to it, but it also opens the door to some of the more creative, free flowing jammy GD that grew that year and seemed to peek (at least to me) in 74, losing some of it's luster during hiatus. 73 contains it's own bag of tricks..

    Finally.. just delving into the song list on the January 73 Jerry release announced this week. I'm salivating.. there's some takes on songs I have never heard them play here.. and it's a Rex/Betty multi-track? Say what! These had to have been returned as part of the lost stash. Aren't we a lucky bunch?

    Wishing all a very good weekend and sending positive thoughts to the family members suffering and recovering out there.

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    Give to the Max

    (Sam, sorry to hear about your plight!)

    Yesterday was Give to the Max Day here in Minnesota; people are encouraged to use that site that day to give money to various MN charities and non-profits. So that day always reminds me to come on here and gently encourage people to go make donations to The Rex Foundation and Archive.org, two non-profits near and dear to Deadheads' hearts. Thanks for considering it!

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    good thoughts on this thread lately

    thank you all for the good reads, Vguy, good vibes sent your way, hang in there. I too have had a bad couple of months with family in the hospital. All is better now but the bills, over a quarter of a million for hospital stay, how can they justify these prices? one bill is for a nurse, not a doctor, to visit weekly, she is here for about 10 mins, that will be 189.50$ please. Medicaid, here we come. Never in my life have I not been able to pay a bill, but this one I guess the state will have to pick up. In this state, you can't have any assets over 3,000$ to qualify for Medicaid, so now we must become wards of the state. nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile and thank the universe that all pulled thru. Unfortunately, the prognosis is not that great and there will be many more visits to the specialists and the primary dr that will only increase this financial burden, but how do you put a cost on a loved ones life? You can't. I guess this will be the last year that I will be able to justify the expense of a Dave's Pick subscription, the state only accepts expenses that are essential and necessary, and according to them, the calming, therapeutic effect of Grateful Dead music does not qualify.
    One thing is for sure, if you do not have insurance in this country, do not get sick, it will ruin you plus you will receive sub standard care, as you are now officially a "charity case". How did it get this bad? Why have all the health care professionals let this happen? What's worse is everyone knows it's all fucked up, but yet, they allow it to continue and do nothing but say "it's all messed up but that's what we have to work with". I do believe that the one candidate that stands up and says enough is enough about this health care crisis would win any election hands down, unfortunately, the insurance companies and the drug companies and the medical professionals will never let that happen, all in the name of greed.

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    48-minute Lovelight?!

    No, but thanks. :) Wait. Unless that goes into a 20-minute Victim and then one of those super-slow Terrapins with no jamming. :-O

    I used to dutifully slog my way through every Lovelight, until the recently-released one where Pigpen talks about getting a gun to shoot a woman while he says something to this woman about, "Get out of here, C#%T!!" That put me off "Love"light (and to an extent, Pigpen) for good.

    And yes--I, too, have had some damaged/defective discs the past few years, after having nothing but good luck for decades.

    This October through December of 1973 stretch might be the Dead's best ever, to my ears. My notes for DaP 5 (11/17/73) ask if disc 2 is the best hour of GD EVER. I'm seeing a lot of 'A+' marks in my notes for this fall run.

  • Thats_Otis
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    Happy Friday, DeadLand!

    On this day in GD history, they only played four shows...

    1969 Lanai Theater, CA: Pig-fest with an Easy Wind, Next Time You See Me, Boss Man, Good Lovin', and a 48min Lovelight, for those into that sort of thing. However, I can't seem to find a decent recording - even the Charlie Miller transfer sounds muddy and warbly.

    1971 Austin, TX: So hot, they released it as a Road Trips... Fall of 71 is smoking! 1st set Dark Star>El Paso>Dark Star, interesting and well played 2nd set that just EXPLODES into NFA>GDTRFB>NFA!

    1972 OK City: Fall of 72 - the greatest period of Dead ever? I don't know, but I know it's in the conversation... All around solid show - 1st set begins with Bertha, Beat It On Down the Line, Bird Song...BBB... Bobby is mixed WAY high in the beginning of Bertha, and you can't really hear the rest of the band, but it's pretty cool to hear Bobby isolated, and the mix settles in about half-way through. 2nd set features a 30-min Playin, followed by Big RxR, which I think is a pretty great spot for that tune. Good stuff. Here's the link:

    https://archive.org/details/gd1972-11-15.sbd.miller.110631.flac16/gd72-…

    1987 Long Beach: 2nd Set - Scarlet>Fire>LLR>He's Gone>Drums>Space>The Other One>Morning Dew>Around Around>Watchtower E: Black Muddy River - That's a hell of a good looking set!

    Happy Friday all... Hope everyone has a rockin' weekend!

    Peace

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    There's a title to a post called Re: Moving Pictures that has nothing to do with the Rush album, and there is another title to a post called Dark Star that has nothing to do with the song.

    Streaming - not for me at this time. I only listen to the Dead and there is nothing that can replace my phone system where I have every release in chronological order plus soundboards in a second chronologically ordered list. To my knowledge there's still a ton of Grateful Dead limited edition material that you just can't get on the streaming services. Once in a while I'll pull out something different, but it doesn't make up for nearly the time I spend listening to the Dead so it would just be a waste of money. My last phase was the Rolling Stones leading up to 50th anniversary. That went on for about two years before I re-engaged the Grateful Dead.

    Would love to know how artists and record companies make money anymore with all the streaming in piracy. It doesn't even sound possible to me but maybe I just needed properly explained. If I had to guess, I would say there is a direct correlation between streaming and piracy, and the high price of concert tickets. I have a feeling artist don't make nearly what they used to off of their recorded music from the studio oh, so they have to make their money on the road. But as far as I'm concerned I've seen all the good groups and I'd be surprised if a new one came along that caught my interest.

    Dick's Picks 23 is rocking my optimal right now. Bobby comes through loud and clear on me and my uncle, and Tennessee Jed is no slouch either. And there's a 40-minute other one coming up... And then I'm going to listen to November 14th 1971, because I rarely go to that one and the ravings are out.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Tres bien

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Uhhhh......

You want your team to win
And you watch them suck
And you wonder how Aaron Rodgers can be so good
Year after year after year

And then your team gets called for pass interference

And offside

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Jim, funny you mention only giving the GSTL box a single listen. I had only given it a couple of cursory listens when I first got it, probably a few more listens to the 5/9/77 Buffalo show for the Help-Slip-Franklins over time. Recently I couldn't decide what to listen to and figured I'd run through the GSTL box again from start to finish. This time through it really hit the spot, clicked for me on a whole different level than my prior listens. Anything May '77 hits the spot, but this time through GSTL it was just about perfect. All depends on your mood at the time I guess. I'd be curious what you think on a second listen now that the hype has worn off.

On the same page as Deadvikes with anticipation for the upcoming DaP33 and DaP 34, particularly the '74 show on 34. Have to agree that DaP 13 is possibly the best '74 release so far, everything about that release from sound quality to show quality was spot on. DaP 9 is also a good '74 release, but it just doesn't quite hit the same level as DaP 13. Maybe I just prefer that cool, jazzy Dark Star on DaP 13 to the more chaotic Dark Star on DaP 9.

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Signals
Presto
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves
Roll The Bones
Focused on Peart on all five. He was really, really good. Duh.
Come to think of it, I haven't listened to the GOGD since new years eve. That's a record I think.

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I decided to go through Daves Picks from the first one, in order, today. (not playing them all today, I hasten to add).Which naturally means that 5/25/77 gets a rare outing. I am impressed, I have to say. 1977 isn't a favourite year for me these days. There seemed to be a massive change in feel to me from the pre to the post retirement years...all the elements remained, except the most elusive - the magic.

But I digress-this 5/25/77 starts off beautifully with Mississippi and flows as smoothly as silk from thereon in. I'm still only in the first set, but everything is in place and locked together straight away. A nice aperitif for 10/29/77, too. Like my memory of other 1977 shows, it skims along very nicely on the surface, but I would be very surprised if it drops down into the subterranean depths visited in the years up to 1974.

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I'm curious to see what Lemieux et all have selected to fill out the third disc for Dave's 33.
Both of the shows already released from this tour had a full disc's worth of filler material (Dick's 34: Rochester and Dave's 12: Hamilton)
The night following DeKalb, 10/30/77 has a very nice second set that features no repeats. I gave the whole show a listen over the weekend and that second set would make a very fine addition to the DeKalb show.

Ha..

..agree, I older I get the more willing I am to be dragged down into strange subterranean depths.

As for Dave's 33 filler.. it seems they have been less willing to add filler in some of the newer releases. It's been a while since Colgate was released. Good question, time will tell but I am not sure this is a given.

Forgot to mention..

Was watching Larry David on The Late Show last week and clear as day the late night band was playing Althea as the welcome music to introduce the guest.

Pretty cool.. sort of an obscure studio reference coming from the mainstream. I'm not a GD studio aficionado, but Althea worked pretty well in the studio (and later live).

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...for something completely different. I decided to spin 4/27/71, in honor of Doc and his unadulterated support of '71 shows. This show is known for the Beach Boys coming on during the second set, but even if you want to skip that silliness, there are highlights aplenty. Set1-Loser, a GREAT Hard To Handle, China/Rider, & Casey Jones all back to back.
also, a nice early Bird Song, followed by Playing & Dire Wolf. Second set ends with Sing Me Back Home, Uncle John's Band, and a VERY nice Lovelight (although the end is clipped). Well worth a listen, if you want to mix things up!!

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There's a lot of embedded wisdom within Dead songs. Perhaps none tops this:

I told Althea
I'm a roving sign
That I was born to be a bachelor
Althea told me
Okay, thats fine
So now I'm trying to catch her

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...thank you for the feedback on Daves Picks #2. I have this pick along with a copy of a copy of the Bonus Disc from a grateful friend on the message board, it is a greatful Bonus Disc to say the least, I’m it’s great all around. The audio is as primo one can hope for from the magigical fingertips of Of Norman and the whole team & the song selection that comes along with it!💀🌹💀🌹 I posted this show before the 2020 Release announcement of their future pick from 74’.... I’m pretty sure I have second copy in primo shape but minus the Bonus Disc. Pm me if anyone is interested in a copy., drop me a pm. Peace be with you! 🙏❤️😎💀🌹💀🌹
*** it took me a few listens completely straight thru for myself get all the primo grateful love contained in this Daves Pick #2 ,pretty early The the series. Oh I can’t wsit for this next 74 ‘ Pick 🙏❤️

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What a great show that is! I wish they would release that whole Fillmore East run as a box set. I know that some of that material has been released, but I think most folks would love a box set of that whole run. Or maybe a Fillmore East/Fillmore West box could be put together.

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... hello old friend, I smiled when I read you are on the journey of listen to the Daves seisris in order. I myself am doing the same , lol too funny! 🙏❤️😎💀🌹💀🌹

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I always hear Althea as

I told Althea I'm a roving sire
I was born to be a bachelor
Althea told me ok that's fine
so now I'm tryin' to catch ya

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8/5/71

heard disc one this morning
got through Truckin' on the way to work and part of Loser

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I would take ANY Fillmore box, and just in case Dave is looking in here, I would pre-order that box in about 1/1000 of a second!! C'mon Dave, you know you want to!!

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"Roving sire" makes a lot more sense, actually. I got "roving sign" from some lyrics website. I'm never sure what that word is when listening.

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LMG...my PLAN is to listen to the Daves Picks in sequence, but I am as hopeless following a pre determined plan listening to the Dead as I am following plans with more serious matters in life. If there are any.
The temptation now is to listen to another May 1977 show rather than Daves Picks 2...and if I get as far as number 2, the chances of getting to number 3 before exploring more 1974 are virtually nil. Its a win win situation.

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Daves Picks 2020 Series ...
...anyone else in the mood for another 80’s ‘Matrix’ Release/mix for a 2020 Daves Picks Performance?! 🙏❤️💀🌹💀🌹

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Stumbling around still on the archive/ the brass lantern shows and found a show from a group called "codename", might not be around anymore. This recording is incredible. Worth a few minutes at least.

On the funny, but should have been expected side. When ever they released the picture disc/limited edition/50th anniversary grateful dead album. I saw talk about it and couldn't remember if I bought or not. Looked high and straight, no go. Ordered another where it not sits. For reasons too numerous to say, I needed to enter "THE CLOSET", you know the one. Emptied out a ton of crap and re-aligned. Low and while high, there was the first copy still in the original cardboard sleeve. A quick chuckle and then the flash, maybe it's gone up a ton in value! Type, type, type,,, no seems to be selling for less than I paid!

Only question left,,, is it better to stumble, shamble or meander around the archive?

Really cool you were at the April Fool's shows Jim. Would love to hear more about that. Great shows!

I was at Alpine as well that year, maybe we crossed paths? The drought summer, that was a crazy June.
We went to the show at the old Met Center in Bloomington MN on June 17 and then headed down to East Troy WI. My third year at Alpine. We rented a RV, with a toilet, which was really nice for Alpine. Don't ask how, because we were just 17. I remember tons of people coming to us looking for water. So hot. I don't know how we made it. We would drive into Lake Geneva during the day. And of course the music, to my memory was unreal. Always love these shows and I look forward them coming out someday.

Well.. I somehow confused or conflated the 4/1/88, Meadowlands Road Trips show (which I did not attend) with 3/27/88 Hampton Download Series #5 (which I did attend). Hampton was a little closer and certainly cheaper and less a hassle for me to get to back then. With few exceptions, until GPS came to be I used to avoid or evade driving in and out of NYC. These days it doesn't seem to be such a big deal.

In my twisted mind I had the jester/clown artwork attached to the show where they did So What, a great Dylan inspired first set and that mighty fine second set opener of Sugar Mag>Scarlet>Fire>Estimated>Eyes.

I do like the Road Trips they released.. but I admit it has been some time since I listened to it.

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Wow!!!! Always love the Frost shows from 10/9 and 10/10/82 especially the Throwing Stones>Touch of Grey. This is Althea>Let it Grow end of first set and Touch of Grey>Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance from start of second... the sound quality seems very good... Not my bailiwick year either, just caught my attention!!! Thanks Dave... bob t

Also I was at the 9/13/87 Capital Center show the third show of the week on Tapers Section, which people tend to favor the shows we attended, and New Haven blows it away!! giggity...

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on the bus

summer 90 box set

my best friends sisters boyfriends brothers girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid whos going with the girl who etc

We got 2-27-77 as filler because that was all that existed in the vault, and it fit on CD3.

I had 10-30-77 on cassette and played it a lot. Would prefer that it not be chopped up to be used as filler.
Since it fits on 2 CD-R’s, it should be combined with another 2 CD show for a 4-disc DaP. Or be included in a forthcoming Box.
Or, better yet, be the bonus show you get when you pre-order the Winterland December 77 Box (hint, hint Dave).

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Never could read shit, just slips away when I try...

Re: DaP filler 10-28-77 has some nice moments including an inspired reading of Candyman (right near the holiday of Halloween). From what I can remember, the end of that show is cut on the master tapes, too.

..but I'm not worried. I am using Friday's paycheck to get the subscription. Always a safe bet.

Where did that link go for the subscription anyway? Did they announce it already??

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How About ...
...how about a performance from 83’
So, I've I just realized the fall east coast tour of 83 10/8/83-10/22/83 doesn't have a single show I don't just love!!Love 83-85 but a whole tour that keeps me happy is unheard of for me! Funny how they don't release much of 83-85 compared to other years. Oh, also love a LOT of 1984. 🙏❤️😎🌹💀🌹💀🌹

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....i went and got a new tattoo. Showed the wife.

Her: Oh, cool! It's.. uh?

Me: (proudly) It's my thermos! From work!

Her: (reaching towards me) Well, uh, the line work is certainly..

Me: (slaps hand away) Don't touch the thermos tat.
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Simply beautiful.

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I'm picking out a thermos for you. No ordinary thermos for you.

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One of my all time fave misheard lines...

" I had a hard on, running from your window"

Vguy, you had the bad guy from the Marvel movies tattoo on you. Full size back tat?

P Hill; home may be on the bus, but here comes the ice pick in the forehead.

Is it time to order Dave's already,,,, I thought that was in November,,, early this year!

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Good morning. Haven't been around much lately, just due to time constraints.

Sixtus I read the post about your dad and I'm real sorry. And in all that, I appreciate your thoughtfulness in your thinking of me when Neil Peart died. I haven't really caught up on any of the posts lately, but I did see that one.

Yeah, Neil was the man. Last night I went Tour by tour... Wow I just said by-tor... that was a little freaky. Anyway I counted how many times I saw them, and it was 26. I first saw them on the power windows tour, and never missed a tour after that. In the days when they used to play Philly twice, used to go both nights. I peeked out on the test for Echo tour: saw them in Philly, Camden, East Rutherford, and Jones Beach. This was a pretty significant or because it was the first that day started playing two sets adding up to roughly two and a half hours, probably a little bit more. It was also the first time they played 2112 in its entirety. Watching Alex lifeson play Discovery into Presentation was worth the price of admission. I will never forget the 14 or 15 year old kid sitting next to me, got up to go to the bathroom during that part. I said where are you going. He said he was going to take a piss. I asked him if he knew what they were playing. He said no. I told him to sit back down and either piss in a cup or wait 5 minutes, because the best part of the show is coming up. He took my advice and used his cup. Hey I guess everyone has a first Rush concert. In any case that was really the first deep cut that got me into Rush. It took 10 years and 6 tours to finally hear them play it live, but it was worth it. God bless Neil, agnostic though he was.

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Was pawing through my Dead cds last night and came across 3/24/70, Pirate's World, Dania Florida. Seemingly a one set show. I must admit that 1970 is probably the year I know least about. We DO have a small handful of GREAT shows from 1970 (1/2 & 3, 1/23, 2/2, 4/15, 5/2, 10/4, & 12/31-partial from UK '70 box, and more you all will remind me of).
However, this March 24th show is very unique (to me) in that it's almost as if they tried to squeeze a 2 1/2 hour show into 83 minutes. Yes, the beginning of Dew is cut, but you get a relatively short Good Lovin', a 12 minute Dark Star into a 5 minute Other One, into St. Stephen, followed by a short Drums into Not Fade Away, into a really nice 13 minute Lovelight, with a Me & My Uncle closer. Also in the mix, you have Mama Tried, Don't Ease Me In, High Time, & Cold Rain.
The Dark Star is maybe the most unique that I've heard, mellow and almost poppy (??). I feel like to get from '69 to '71 had to be a complicated transition, and this disc proves it to me. I got the cd from Amazon UK about a year ago. If only we had a Forensic Doc for the year 1970. Anybody??

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Maybe we will get the rest of 11/2/77 Field House

Set 2:
Samson And Delilah 6:44.11
Ship Of Fools 6:27.74
Good Lovin' 6:09.59
Sunrise 3:49.04

Dave said he would get the rest of this show out some day.

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I get on and off anniversary kicks, I somehow seem to even miss the ones of the good shows I attended.. but there is one I seem to never miss, it has become one of my go to 69 shows and that's Big Rock Pow Wow. So in honor of it's birthday I am spinning it now.

What? yes.. I know, 5/23 and 5/24 but being as bad at remember birthdays and anniversaries myself, you cannot suddenly be accurate when it comes to dead shows and completely miss the mark when it comes to important dates of the people you love.. besides, it has that psychedelic springtime groove to it, and aren't we all in need of a little psychedelic springtime groove right now? In honor of Neil and Buck, He Was A Friend of Mine.

As for Thermos, interesting tat idea.. I was unfamiliar with this concept so I had to google some images and now it makes perfect sense.

https://www.thermos.com/kids/kids-food-jars.html

Speculating the Mr. Incredible thermos? :D

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+1 on 1970. I always find myself listening to 1970 a lot early in the year. For whatever reason, there are more good releases from Jan 70 than from any other Jan. The two Dave's, 1/18/70 DL series, then you've got the Busted on Bourbon Street shows, Daves 6 (2/2/70), DL series 2/4/70, peaking with 2/14 at Fillmore East. Such a great run to keep the winter blahs away.

Ima have to check out the spring 70 run a little more. Dicks 8 is great of course. We should get the special 50th editions of American Beauty and Workingman's this year also. Interested in what the live bonus discs are gonna look like.

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Too bad they didn't record all of it.

I have been pondering something for years.. and think I might have figured it out. To my ears, the acoustic stuff on 5/15/70 sounds better, by far, than any of the other 1970 acoustic stuff with the exception of Bears Choice. So my question or hypothesis is.. did they plug in the acoustic guitars or were they playing to the mics and the mics were wired to the reel to reel mix?

For Warfield/Radio City they must have had pickups on the acoustic guitars, they sound so clean and were recorded on multi-tracks. ..but most of the 1970 acoustic sets sound muddy to me.

Does anyone know the answer to this? My hypothesis is they were playing to the mics in 1970 but it's not a well informed hypothesis. For a point of reference, on the 1987 Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band run at Lute Fontaine, David Nelson's guitar was picked up by the mics, it was not wired directly to the tape mixing board.

1970 is Magical (at least the good shows :D )

..as for 80's Matrix releases, I agree Dave's Picks 8 Matrix (11/30/80 Fox Theatre) sound great and is an improvement from both the soundboard and the audience (at least to my ears). It's a win/win. I can imagine redo's of this are more problematic than one might guess. First, we need absolutely killer audience tapes (Thanks Dr. Bob.. that Wagner source is sublime) and second, there must be a willingness from all parties to do this, likely meaning the audience masters need to be donated for the cause. Then there is the remastering process. I bet it's tricky.
Fingers crossed though, #8 is great!

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The Dead just played to the mics in 1970 and in 1980 they were plugged in. I read an interview with Garcia and Weir saying how they got sounds that were not really musical while playing to the mics, maybe they were referring to feedback. I personally liked the 1970 sounding acoustic guitars more than 1980.

That's what I thought. I have to admit.. I like the clarity of the 1980 acoustic sets but I often wonder how the older stuff might have sounded if it were better recorded.

..but that's just me. Still glad they did it. 15 years before MTV Unplugged you have the Grateful Dead.

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Back in the day they only had mics, pickups were not usually used on acoustic instruments. In 1980 they were and more importantly the technology had improved greatly. Even better is the use of both mics and the direct line pickups. That’s what they utilized in 1980. Also, the mics they used back then probably weren’t as high quality like they used later on....
The signal path back then was probably a passive splitter with one leg to the main mix/PA board and another to the tape system, or possibly only 1 feed to the main board with some kind of Aux mix out to tape. This is hard to do because your trying to mix 2 completely different things with just one board so the EQ is usually not good on at least one of the mixes...unless your aux is before the EQ stage. But I’m not sure they had that kind of functionality back then?
In 1980, it overall would have been the same, but most likely using an active splitter and much more processing etc.
The old stuff sounds so bad mostly because they were trying to get acoustic instruments as loud as drums and electric stuff I.e., the bass, and there is no good way to accomplish this, especially with the tech back then. Thus the mixer would often roll off certain frequencies to try and get more gain without feedback, but that’s why they often sound bad; sacrifice tone for hall volume etc..Today there are feedback suppression devices which help too.

....thats the one I went to!
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