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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Weird Mixes

    I haven't listened to the listening party, so I can't say if the mix is weird or not, but I strike many as weird myself, so I'm sure it will even out for me.

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    So at least on This Listener's ears, it can be a little jarring to go from one source of material to another when the recording quality is notably differing. With the GD, the era really defined The Sound, both how they played, but also how it physically manifested musically via the sound system. Older shows notably sound different than newer shows. The sheer span of the repertoire time frame invites a dynamic output over time. There's a curve for you.

    Having just come off the Giants Box, with the pristine 24/48 track recordings, where you can hear every instrumental nuance, the ears have expectations that can be robbed if the listening experience suddenly changes. We all likely listen to different eras for very specific reasons, but there is gravity to those reasons for choices in that we are usually drawn to a particular song or show from an era, looking for that distinct, only Dead Sound that could be produced by, that era. This in turn can likely influence our reception of a source, perhaps subconsciously or perhaps not - at least its a possible theory.

    Bottom line is, I think, as Jimmy alludes to, we all like it, warts & all, if it rocks.
    Most of the time, it usually does.

    Sixtus

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    WissinomingDH, I like the way you think.. though I am super stoked for this one.

    Jason, I absolutely get what you are saying. Dave seems to be keeping some powder dry for tomorrow's battle and next year's picks and boxes, but I have always really liked this show. If I had a complaint, it is that the first set it soooooooooo long, makes it hard to listen to it in a single sitting. Oh, and cut the WTF (wave that flag, not the other wtf). How did they get this to fit on four discs.

    Ursa, with the exception of 4/2/73 all the other 73 releases seem to get those comments. I can't disagree with you, but the performances usually outshine some minor technical anomalies and offset the caveat emptor label that used to come with these releases. I will take my 1973 warts and all. I'm not saying I disagree, just that this is a known known. It is what it is.

    Great release, I want to get my grubbly little paws on it, rip it and slap on some headphones.

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    How come I get the email,…

    How come I get the email, click the link and it’s already gone? Maybe they should have a release time since some of us do t get the email until after it’s sold out? Literally clicked on the email which arrived a min earlier and gone. Not only that, my giants stadium box set had two damaged discs that weren’t even in their holders, but just floating around inside the paper cases and leading to them being damaged as well as the dvds not playing on any player. I’ve tried messaging rhino and gd, and nothing. Tried tweeting as well. Considering how expensive the set is, I’d like working discs and dvds. Thank you very much for not caring after you take my money.

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    Don’t know, don’t really care...

    Not sure how they can charge what they do when you can shows online for free.
    Don’t know, don’t really care...

    p.s.
    Who is this Dave anywho?

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    Well, I missed this one ... so I will probably have to go to a scalper on eBay . However, after previewing the listening party ... where are the cymbals? And the mix is a little weird ... some of the limited releases have been sub par ... this one almost is not broadcast quality... I understand it's always the source but if the source isn't that great ... how bout release it via download for a cheaper price ... ?

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    Am sure this is a fine show

    Spring '73. First batch of shows after Pig's passing. He's Gone. Sing Me Back Home. Etc.

    But I have to admit to a certain level of Alpine '89 (7/17) level of frustration with every passing '73 release that is not RFK, Kezar, Dane County, or Roscoe Maples.

    Though I get that Dave, in addition to wanting to provide diversity in terms of the year of the release, but also in terms of well-known/big tent shows and some lesser known shows.

    Swing earlier in the year. Giants '91. Even the RSD from '80 were big tent shows. I get Dave going for a "lesser" known show here.

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    That it sold out when can we expect the announcement for the Dave's Picks 2020 subs? I'm thinking around the 28th-29th, & don't forget the 30 Days of Dead beginning November 1st.

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    Gone

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    @4:54PM EDT

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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So, for some reason, it seemed a good idea to check out 1968 from 30TATS today. Short show (or set), but 65% Pigpen on vocals. Short and sweet, just like "they" say. C'mon Dave's 33!!

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A while back you all were discussing the tuning between songs. I bought myself the yellow 71 box for Christmas. I highly recommend it. Especially for those like me who still haven't received Dave's 32 yet. The 7-2 show is worth the price of the box! Anyway, it is funny to me that during the first sets of these shows they spend 1 to 3 minutes tuning between every song but very rarely tune at all in the second set. Did the instruments cosmically stay in tune for the second set?

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Kid thanks for the links and the heads up on the Hopslam, I will seek out beer man and Pester him!
The two river video was so idyllic it made me look it up on google earth. God I love that app. Im such a map geek I could mess with that all day.
I have not been enjoying two hearted lately, because in winter I tend to binge on the heavier stuff. The 2 hearted is definetly in main rotation during the other 3 months outta the year here that it’s not winter. Since Anchor Christmas beer is my all time favorite, it’s only available for a short time, and the distributor out here is a #$&(&4 douche, I usually stock up with between 10-20 cases to last us the year. This year did 12 as that seems to be about right. I’ll have one now and again during the warmer months, but it’s definetly better during the early winter months.
Been supplementing that with The Fremont Dark Star, (Big Freemont fan) Sierra Nevada Celebration (really good with Buffalo chicken), Einstock Porter, North Coast Old Rasputin, and what other quality Stouts and Porters we can get out here in the boonies. If your into coffee Stouts, check out Crazy Mountain Snow Cat.
Did try the Bells Abracadabra and the special double cream stout. They were good, but not mind blowing. Would really like to try their Robust Porter and Kalamazoo Stout if I can get it? Perhaps the Christmas beer, but I find Scotch ales, like Barley wine can be hit or miss depending on preference. Personally I don’t like em if their too sweet.
That pleasantly reminds me that Sierra Nevada Bigfoot Barely will be available sooner than later which is a nice psychological carrot to get through the worst of winter!

BOLO; burppp, thanks for the tasty snack!

TUNING; insterments often need time to warm up in order to keep good tune. So in those drafty halls etc, even if sitting out, as soon as they crank up the lights and start playing them they can be hard to keep in tune. This is especially true for bolt on necks found on most production guitars. (Like they played before all the custom stuff) If you notice in the later years they tuned much less, because they usually played through-the-neck instruments and had better tuners. The Modulas Graphite instruments Bob and Phil mostly played from the early eighties on had graphite necks which helped with a lot with tuning....also, they are musicians so Smoke breaks are a must! Lol
My dream bass would be one of the early, few, Alembic Instrumets with a Modulas through body neck, boo-ya!

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listening heavily to the "Hot Rats Sessions" box that I gifted my self...amazing...Hot Rats, Weasels Ripped My Flesh and Burnt Weenie Sandwich are all present in one way or the other...also last week I took the Mrs to the big city of Phoenix to see Booker T Jones play at the Musical Instrument Museum Theater...what a gas to see him play...he told MG & Stax stories during a Q & A with the audience...i was lucky enough to get to ask him a question and I asked him to talk about Al Jackson, the MG's drummer...he said Al would open his wallet and lay it flat on his floor tom and smack it while playing because he liked the fat sound it made...great time and to hear "Green Onions" live just about did us both in...he talked about writing "Born Under A Bad Sign" with Isaac Hayes for an Albert King Session that the MG's served as the session band with Booker & Isaac playing piano...sweet indeed and I scored a lotta brownie points too...

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Just came out today going through all volumes of Dicks Picks. Just digging in to the first episode. It’s called 36 from the vault and is easy to find on Apple devices.

Guess we will find out about the 33 filler tomorrow. There is a Peggy O from around that time that I recall being a great version

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Is one fine brew. It can be hard to find but worth the search.
It comes in an old school bottle too.

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Had the pleasure of picking up a sixer of their Christmas Ale over the holidays. It was quite the tipple.

Last 5

Winterland - 11-10-73
Auditorium Theater - 5-12-77 (Wow! I dont remember this show being this good.)
Hill Auditorium - 12-14-71
Riverbend 6-24-85 (30 Trips)
Giants Stadium 7-9-89

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1969, 1970, and 1971. And in the fridge, Sierra Nevada Pale Ales, Sierra Nevada Torpedos, and Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stouts.

It’s actually a forum on this site.
https://www.dead.net/forum/whats-your-fridge

Oroborous,
Currently drinking a Double Two Hearted, 11%.
Need to finish what I have since the beer store I go to says they are getting Hopslam next week.
Yes, try whatever Bell’s products you can get. If you can get Kzoo Stout give it a try, along with Expedition Stout, an Imperial. I was lucky enough last year or so to get some bourbon barrel aged Expedition Stout, as well as 2015 Expedition Stout that was aged in a temperature controlled warehouse.
Tonight I got 2 bottles of Vanilla Black Note Stout. Black Note is a mixture of bourbon barrel aged Expedition Stout and bourbon barrel aged Double Cream Stout. Good stuff, I have a few bottles aging. Will age the Vanilla for a while too.
Bell’s Christmas Ale is a good a good Scotch Ale. It’s only around for a few weeks.

Anchor Steam, don’t think that I have had the ale since the 90’s. Don’t think I’ve ever had the Christmas.

Sierra NV products - I’ve consumed a lot.

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Since we're a beer forum now, I'm curious how people feel about the hazy, New England style IPAs that have become popular? I for one love them, and I never really liked IPAs all that much until discovering those. But I've read a lot of beer snobby purists saying they dislike them and only want that turbo hoppped West Coast style.

Old Nation Brewery here in mid Michigan makes two excellent examples: M43, and Boss Tweed. They've been my main beer jam for awhile now.

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M-43 and Boss Tweed in my fridge too.
Excellent beer.

There are some good west coast style IPA’s out there, but there are also a lot of crappy ones.

Wheat beer is my favorite style, so the cloudy N. E IPA’s were a welcome addition to the beer club.

I don’t think that it’s possible for someone to be a beer purist if they only drink west coast style IPA’s, considering that the IPA style was developed by the British, not by west coast beer wannabes.

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I have a copy of Dicks picks 29 in great condition, as well as Dave bonus disc from volume 14. I was intrested to trade for dave bonus from volume 6 or 10 if anyone is intrested. Also looking for dick picks 34 or 24 just pm me. Sorry looking to trade with someone in USA only

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My favorite Bell's offering each year is their Octoberfest. The best Octoberfest I have ever had. Too bad they only sell it in August and September. Shelf life just 6 months.

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You guys know how to wreck a New Years resolution...

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1966 (Acid Tests!!), 1967, 1970

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Yeah, you have to stock up on those once a year offerings.
But then drink them before the flavor changes.
That’s the good thing with barrel aged stouts, the flavor usually improves with age.

Wheat beer is my favorite style, Bell’s Oberon is my favorite wheat beer.
I started drinking Bell’s in 92/93, so I’m quite loyal to Bell’s considering that they have been making quality beer since 85 and are pretty good at it. And still family owned and independent.
Their Lager of the Lakes can stand up against any lager that I have had in Germany.

Bell’s made a really good Pale Ale years ago (the one with the monk on the label), but then discontinued it. Not sure why, possibly because they could no longer get the hops.
Recall that years ago, before there were tons of hop farms in the U.S., there was a hop shortage due to disease and/or drought in Europe.
But that turned out to be a good thing because it started the hop growing craze and the creation of new varieties and strains that now allow so many different tasting beers.

If anyone sees SweetWater G13 on the shelf grab it. There is a hop combination in there that smells and tastes like weed. A very fine tasting IPA.

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I for one truly enjoy a tasty hazy New England IPA. In fact I slurped down several of those big bads last night and expect to do the same this evening notably streaming night one of Dead & Co down in Meh-hee-Co. Couldn't make the trip down this year due to myriad reasons, but being able to still take it in from the couch is a reasonable and much less expensive alternative...

Mighty Squirrel brewery out of Waltham MA of all places has a few go-to beers: Cloud Candy NE IPA (its as good as it sounds) and then the Double IPA (these are in fact my favorite) Cosmic Distortion coming in at 8% is a good shoehorn into the next liquid offering.

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I’ve heard good things about Treehouse Brewing (Boston) Julius NEIPA.
Have you had it?

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In anticipation of 10/29 listening to 10/30, right now. Mmm, tasty little set two Playing sandwich.

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Since you like Oberon, as I do, check out Griffin Claw's Mr Bluesky. I daresay I like it even better. Griffin Claw makes a great NEIPA also, Haze Force. And El Rojo, maybe the best Irish Red this side of Dublin.

There's so much great beer coming out of MI. Almost makes the weather worth it.

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The great beer, and now great bud, state.

I don’t live there anymore, but do get there a few times a year to see the family. Always drive so that I can bring back M-43, Boss Tweed, specialty Bell’s releases, etc.

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Ice Cream Cone kid, you were drinking Oberon back when it was called Solsun! Its my all-time favorite beer. I grew up around Detroit and now live in Chicago so i've been drinking Bells for over 20 years. We're lucky having Bells and Founders in western Michigan. And 3 Floyds brewery in northern Indiana is great as well, though a little expensive. The Two Hearted (Who Farted) is no slouch either. I'll have to find that Double Two-Hearted. Sounds dangerous.

For anyone around Chicago, check out Super Stout Sunday at the Hopleaf on....Super Bowl Sunday. They get a bunch of hard to find stouts and tap them all day Sunday til they run out.

And now back to your regularly scheduled dead programming.

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ConeKid....haven't had the one you mention but I've also heard the same; Treehouse is supposed to be a worthy destination. But the best beer breweries & tours I've been on recently were up in Portland Maine. Tons of breweries and a cool town taboot - just not in the Dead of winter.

Sixtus "Sixer" Beerlove

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Hey all, been absent a while, but….

I love IPA and these pretzels are making me thirsty….only 10:00am, fuck I’m sweating....

Anywayzees, I drink a lot of this stuff as well, and I lean probably more towards the Hazy, but I also like hoppy, or both….yum!!! The ones I don’t like tend to be more on the malty side, or the ones that are so light on the hops that it’s hard to consider them an IPA. My favorite used to be Sculpin from Ballast Point in CA, or even better the Grapefruit Sculpin which is a little more on the HAZY side. This was until I had Toppling Goliath’s Pseudo Sue out of Decatur, IA. This IMHO is the best IPA on the planet. It comes in 4 pack of 16oz and at 11.99 in my local liquor store is not cheap, but damn it is sooooo gooooood! Drank a 4 pack last night while spinning some vinyl.

Speaking of vinyl and hazy things……there was a little buzz here recently about 1970. I recently acquired the 8 Disc Box Set of Songs for Groovy Children – Band of Gypsies on vinyl. If you have not heard this, I would highly recommend seeking it out. I don’t have a digital copy or I would happily spread the love. There are some song repeats however each performance is unique in its own way and the sound quality of these pressings is superb. Hendrix is of course at the top of his game, and with the combination of Buddy Miles on drums and also on vocals this thing goes into the stratosphere.

Can’t mention drums without mentioning Neal Peart…RIP I was never a huge Rush fan, and never got to see them live, but I always respected the complexity of their music, and liked many of the tunes that were played on the radio. I have also always been aware of Peart’s talent and would listen specifically to his drumming when Rush tunes were being played. Gave 2112 a spin yesterday, and had an engaged listen for the first time ever. Really enjoyed it. This is the only album I own by them and only recently picked it up, but thinking of getting some more live stuff. Probably Exit Stage Left if I can find a copy on vinyl, but I’ve also read good things about Snakes & Arrows? KeithFan….my condolences to you specifically…26 times live……. wow, that’s pretty awesome!

FYI….Heard a rumor about D&C opening summer tour on July 10th & 11th in Boulder. Looks like hotel prices are going up and many are already fully booked for that weekend. My VRBO is booked…..something to look forward to anyways. Also, this just in D&C & The Who to headline Jazz Fest this year….man that sounds like fun, and I have family in NO….hmmmmm

Sixtus…. So sorry to hear about your dad. I lost my mom just over 5 years ago. She was only 58 and it hit me like a ton of bricks. You never get over it, but I will say the pain gets easier to deal with over time. After mom’s death I turned a lot towards music which lead me back to the GOGD. One of my silver lining’s I guess. Peace and comfort to you and your family in the days, weeks and years ahead.

Be well Dead People,

KCJ

Oh and I almost forgot......GO CHIEFS!!!!

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....impossible to pick just three as they all, or many were so different! But...
66- acid tests would have been wild
67- maybe...
69- except not sure how great “touring” was in those days....thinking of family road trips back then...but the shows!
72- no explanation necessary!
73- Fall 73 for sure
74- probably for sure just because of the WOS! (Being a geerhead/stereo/McIntosh geek)
85- just too dam fun and liked the stuff they were playing, and crazy psychedelic energy, slop and all. Saw 9 shows but so many others I would of loved
89-90- from summer 89 through summer 90.

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I am a New england hazy beer drinker. Or a hazy new England beer drinker. I love hazy brew. It's got more character. I love Dale's pale ale from the rocky mountains. It's got tons of suds. I mean tons. It sticks to the glass and has to be scrubbed of afterwards. Everytime someone mentions beer, my mouth starts watering.

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if I do have a Beer it's gotta be dark and flavorful...I had to post on my FB account a message to all my Chicano Tejano brethren...please stop posting pictures of your lovely meal with your crappy bud lite showing...I have some moronic friends..

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22 oz bottles and kegs only at the time. I still have several of the Solsun labels from bottles.
I don’t think that Oberon is quite as good as I remember Solsun being.

They got sued by the Mexican beer Sol which I think has a sun on the label.

I got to get some work done, so that I can go home and have some of these tasty beers we keep talking about.

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Looking back, 85 was a lot of fun. Not their best playing by any means, but they brought out a lot of cool stuff. I caught 10 shows that year. You could still pretty much do what you wanted without some of the hassle in later years.

No surprise, Saratoga was a blast and a great show. Portland, ME was always cool. I can't remember exactly, but I think that was the year where is was unusually warm all day. When we came out of one show there was a foot of snow on the ground. The Rochester shows were short, but sneaky good. A lot of people point to Hershey. Coming off of Saratoga, it was a bit of a let down. A long, tiring drive through the night and lots of rain.

Song highlights for me were Day Tripper, Keep on Growing, Cryptical, She Belongs to Me (one of the best all time IMHO) and Walking the Dog.

Thanks for bringing up the memories.

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Garcia was a big fan of Sierra Nevada Porter. I love Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Sierra Nevada Torpedo, but I've never drank their Porter.

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NOD just showed up in the mail and wow. I also liked how they dedicated the show to Adam katz in the liner notes.

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I was just in a store and the had a whole box of unopened Tiger Rose, 8 Tracks by Robert Hunter on Round Records!!!! I did not buy one!!! bob t

Vinyl is so yesterday.

I have an original unopened, sealed Robert Hunter Tiger Rose 1975 Round Records 8 Track . Very collectible.

Hey all...
Willing to trade for the two 8-tracks missing from my collection, Dave's Picks #1 (8-Track) or FW 69 the Complete Recordings 8-Track Box Set.

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Sign me up!!! Also it is amazing they are in the same box that was shipped 45 years ago!! Talk about saving the box of boxes like we have spoken about before!!!

They seem to be on eBay too.

Clearly someone trying to cash in on the GD's 50th hype. :D

Seriously, someone must have stumbled on a box in a basement or warehouse, whatever and said what the hell is this? I bet it was in between the boxes of Confederate money and Nazi gold.

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That's the key word on those 6 k-tel albums up for trade. Never opened. Good one. By the way that NOD 89 show is really amazing. Disk 2 Dark star>pitb>uncle John's band>jam. Also a killer 'never trust a woman'.

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"Never trust a woman" reference as I attend an event for a certain presidential candidate whose initials are Warren.

I love the synchronicity

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....I'm mainly an IPA kinda guy, but there is no shortage of breweries in southern Nevada. Lovelady, Bad Beats, Tenaya Creek, CraftHaus, Ellis Island, Joseph James, Astronomy Ale Works, Big Dog's, Hop Nuts, Triple 7 and Able Baker Brewery. No shortage here!
Lagunitas, however, has been my favorite for a couple of years.
Sidenote. The Vegas Golden Knights fired their coach and hired an ex-Sharks coach, which is strange if you follow the game.
Cracking open Boxilla and spinning that Manor Downs '82 offering as we speak.

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Was going to post that earlier, but forgot.

Very odd firing indeed. Just two years ago, he won the Jack Adams award. My sense is that expectations were set unfairly high after the success in the inaugural year. What’s more baffling is the hiring of DeBoer from the Sharks. After the fiasco of last year’s playoff series, those two teams (and coaches) hate each other.

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Anyone try Firestone Walker's Luponic Distortion?

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....Firestone is solid. Been branching out on more fruity beers.

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...to this Dark Star!

https://archive.org/details/gd70-01-17.sbd.cotsman.19283.sbeok.shnf

It's a good one too :)

@VGuy, I'm with you on Lagunitas... that's some seriously good stuff. Have you had their Super Cluster? It's an Imperial IPA with Citra Hops... 8%ABV... damn delicious! Goes well with 70s Dead too! (Hell, goes well with just about anything awesome!)

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

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How this thread occasionally becomes so random and non-music oriented. At the risk of offending anyone, I was going to mention that my last 5 were:
Music Is-Bill Frisell
Live-The Butterfield Blues Band-Rhino Handmade 2-cd version
Curtain Call-Jaco Pastorius
One World-Rare Earth
Tarkus-Emerson, Lake, & Palmer

My alltime favorite beer was Samuel Smiths-just about anything they made. Super expensive though. Nut Brown Ale and Oatmeal Stout were my particular faves.

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